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2606414, The Official Dalvin Cook "make em' pay" agenda
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Apr-28-17 07:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH-ghzhkyHw

Vikings got a steal. I've watched dude probably more than any other college player in the last two seasons. He cold.
2606415, I'd be in on this even if he wasn't a Viking
Posted by Marauder21, Fri Apr-28-17 07:34 PM
Best RB in college football last season. If the run blocking is even halfway decent, he's a Pro Bowler by year 2.
2606419, im mildly peeved about this
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Apr-28-17 08:10 PM
2606418, Panthers should've taken him instead of McCaffery
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Apr-28-17 07:49 PM
2606447, for real. Thankfully they didn't.
Posted by dillinjah, Fri Apr-28-17 09:50 PM
2606451, Curtis Samuel will be better than both of them.
Posted by guru0509, Fri Apr-28-17 10:06 PM
2606452, I'm still pissed
Posted by b2thej, Fri Apr-28-17 10:16 PM
2606846, yep dalvin way better
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-01-17 02:47 PM
2606881, Dalvin don't appeal to that conservative base...
Posted by Creole, Mon May-01-17 06:33 PM
2606883, lol...and Cam does? It's all about TDs, bro
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-01-17 06:36 PM
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2606892, He don't but QUOTA...
Posted by Creole, Mon May-01-17 08:10 PM
There can only be one of them. #QUOTA
2606894, you can sorta sell them cam. clean cut and giant smile
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-01-17 08:22 PM
cant sell them dalvin, even though they'd LOVE him once they saw him play
2606963, Can't sell Cook cuz he slow and an inferior athlete to McCaffrey
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-02-17 09:16 AM
>cant sell them dalvin, even though they'd LOVE him once they
>saw him play


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2607328, Dalvin had 3 shoulder surgeries, off the field issues, and a
Posted by makaveli, Thu May-04-17 03:57 PM
crappy combine. add all of that together, and he dropped. who knows who will be better but it's certainly not crazy to think it will be mccaffrey.
2606945, McCaffrey faster, quicker, more explosive and better. Cry Hotep
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-02-17 06:55 AM
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2622588, This was an A+ reply
Posted by bshelly, Wed Sep-13-17 07:44 AM
Cook better, but respect the game.
2606473, I love this kid
Posted by cantball, Sat Apr-29-17 12:41 AM
But that Vikes line us TRAAAAAAAAAAAASH
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2606819, he might be the next 2000 yd rusher with a better line
Posted by Ray_Snill, Mon May-01-17 12:30 PM

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2606845, He won't be playing with Teddy B. Scheftdogg reporting CUT
Posted by HecticHavoc, Mon May-01-17 02:44 PM
Wow...

Pick up the phone Arizona!!!!
2606860, he's not cut, they declined his option for 2018
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-01-17 03:35 PM
2606874, If he spends the 2017 season on PUP, his final year rolls over to 18
Posted by Marauder21, Mon May-01-17 05:32 PM
2606923, A lot of variables at play here. I do think Cook is the better runner
Posted by Mignight Maruder, Mon May-01-17 10:30 PM
but McCaffery is the better all-purpose back. I think Cook will get more carries, but he will be running behind a weak OL. McCaffery may still split some carries with Stewart (I think he's still got a little left in him) and get some opportunities as a receiver and on special teams.

McCaffery has a better long term situation with Cam and that balanced offense. I still think Cook is the better runner though so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
2606946, Cook is better at being slower and worse than McCaffrey
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-02-17 06:56 AM

McCaffrey better

Cry you mad Hoteps

Bwahahahahahaha


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2606947, Hoteps in here MAD that McCaffrey AKA AFFLETE is quicker and better
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-02-17 06:57 AM

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2606959, he's not an every down back
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-02-17 09:13 AM
2606962, McCaffrey every down athletic and you're every down sad, Hotep
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-02-17 09:15 AM



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2606967, this shit was NOT a Cook vs. McCaffrey post
Posted by Dstl1, Tue May-02-17 09:26 AM
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2606968, Blame Hoteps for being mad that Grease Lightning faster and quicker
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-02-17 09:27 AM

It would have been all good if Hoteps ain't get mad

Cook might be great

But he slower and less athletic than Grease Lightning

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2607132, you are so thirsty for a W. aint had one since Tubby was at UK :(
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed May-03-17 07:53 AM
so now here you bammin up this mans post

THAT is sad
2607137, You thirsty for a hug. Ain't had one....ever.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-03-17 08:58 AM

I'd give you one, but you need to bathe first,
no disrespect


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2607336, He cold...watch him do work.
Posted by isaaaa, Thu May-04-17 04:52 PM

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2607358, he won yall that ACCCG vs us in 2014
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu May-04-17 07:03 PM
we were gashing yall with the option, but he made SO many tough first downs to keep out of reach

that and the 2015 UF games are his top 2 "pantheon games" in college imo
2607395, Versus GaTech? Hahaha, man he was not going to lose
Posted by isaaaa, Thu May-04-17 10:40 PM
that game period.


DC4 baby!



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2622560, broke AP's record for rushing yards in Viking's debut...keep bouncing (c)
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Sep-12-17 05:13 PM
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2622613, According to NFL Research...
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Sep-13-17 10:21 AM
...Cook recorded two of the three fastest speeds by a running back in Week 1, when he hit 20.45 and 19.98 miles per hour on his two long runs.

http://m.startribune.com/dalvin-cook-lays-his-own-claim-to-no-1-running-back-for-vikings/444099203/
2622644, Panther fans calling in mad as shit after the Viking game...lol
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Sep-13-17 01:30 PM
McCaffery ain't bad but at 8 you pretty much want an every down back..

I will say the Panthers are using McCaffery a lot.. and he is great at being a decoy.

2672620, No idea why they drafted him over DC4....I mean
Posted by isaaaa, Wed Sep-12-18 02:12 PM
McCaffrey is one of the best 20 players in Pac-12 history, he is special but he ain't DC4.



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2672377, we back!
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Sep-09-18 12:20 PM
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2672622, Loved watching him be used in the passing game
Posted by Marauder21, Wed Sep-12-18 02:23 PM
If the O-line doesn't get him hurt again, look out.
2702754, Just wanted to say...WE BACK!!
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Sep-08-19 02:24 PM
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2702755, this sucks
Posted by Ray_Snill, Sun Sep-08-19 02:43 PM

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2702801, He runs mad
Posted by Ceej, Mon Sep-09-19 09:24 AM
2703268, I hope he stays healthy, he deserves a BIG pay day
Posted by isaaaa, Tue Sep-17-19 04:03 PM

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2703279, I think it's crazy how marginally he tested
Posted by will_5198, Tue Sep-17-19 08:03 PM
it wasn't the worst ever, but his short-area times (20-yard shuttle, 3-cone) and explosive drills (broad jump, vertical) were really pedestrian for a guy that always looked electric in college.

I know, football isn't track, but you'd think he would test more like he plays.
2705606, Leading the league in rushing yards and rushing TDs
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Oct-25-19 07:11 AM
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2705678, I picked him up in fantasy this year (auto draft)
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Oct-26-19 11:44 AM
and I ain’t mad.
2706875, Came into our place and hurt us...
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Nov-11-19 07:47 AM
bad. 97 and a TD on the ground, 86 receiving...simply was the best RB in the building.
2722204, 1nce Again (c)
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Oct-04-20 02:20 PM
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2724821, Mr. Dalvin: 226 yards from scrimmage, 4 TDs...
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Nov-02-20 10:15 AM
first player in NFL history to score a TD on his team's first 4 possessions.
2724828, RE: Mr. Dalvin: 226 yards from scrimmage, 4 TDs...
Posted by jimaveli, Mon Nov-02-20 11:40 AM
>first player in NFL history to score a TD on his team's first
>4 possessions.

Cook is a harsh, strong, and fast kick in the nads to 'the RBs are interchangeable' folks out there.

Kalen Ballage ain't doing what Cook did yesterday. The Chargers wish they had this type of running back explosion when a play 'gets blocked properly'. Mike Davis tries hard and has shown well for the last month, but he knows he ain't got what Cook has.

Kubiak is up in the box calling plays like 'man! This is easy!'.
2724841, I have him in FF. Damn near 50 points
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Nov-02-20 03:36 PM
Zeke ain’t give me shit tho..

but yeah, that whole “RB is the easiest position to replace” is some bullshit.

One dude tried to tell me the Carolina Panthers were fine without McCaffrey because they won a few games without him. People calling up sports radio saying they overpaid for him. Last few weeks tho.. people quiet as fuck on that trash take.

2724844, It’s dalvin and alvins league
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Nov-02-20 04:34 PM
We just living in it
2793265, Mr. Dalvin on them streets....released
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jun-08-23 09:04 AM
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2793267, I am surprised why it took this long
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 09:14 AM
With Mattison, who is a similar and younger back, on the roster,
it was just a matter of time that the Vikings would move on
from Cook.
2793269, crazy how fast the NFL cycles through backs these day, used to be 30...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jun-08-23 09:32 AM
he and Zeke are 27. Derrick Henry's probably next on the chopping block, Austin Ekeler got wise and took a deal, it will be interesting to see what happens with Saquon, Gurley was out of the league at what, 24-25?
2793273, It’s more about money than it is age.
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 09:57 AM
Teams can no longer afford the cap hit because other positions have become
more important. ..So even if the RB is a star RB, and is still
in his prime, they can’t afford to pay him his market value. And they can easily find
a younger RB at a cheaper price, who may not be as great, but will be serviceable.

CBs ( as well as pass rushers) are the second most important position on the field, but it wasn’t that way in the 80s, because teams were more run oriented, so having
a top flight RB was a high priority.

The role of LB and RB have really depreciated over the years due to the league
being more pass oriented , so emphasis and priority are placed on QBs and Receivers,
and Pass Rushers and CBs to stop them.

2793332, Todd Gurley has a total of half of a knee
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-08-23 06:26 PM
2793484, yup.
Posted by tariqhu, Sat Jun-10-23 10:03 PM
Gurley was broken and wasn't going to play much, if at all.

2793271, wish he'd come to Tampa, but he's probably going to phins.
Posted by dillinjah, Thu Jun-08-23 09:41 AM
2793276, Say word...
Posted by Marbles, Thu Jun-08-23 10:04 AM

I saw this and immediately thought to myself, "We didn't sign Zeke yet, did we?" I don't know if it's possible but I would love to have this cat.
2793292, NGL....I'm lightweight shocked no one has signed Zeke....
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jun-08-23 11:59 AM
and I said it in the season post that I would not be shocked to see him back in Dallas at a drastically reduced rate....especially now that he see's the market isn't really checking for him.
2793293, Co-sign...I thought he would be snapped up quicker than this n/m
Posted by Marbles, Thu Jun-08-23 12:03 PM
2793303, Don’t need him..when you got younger backs
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 01:46 PM
who can gain the same amount of yards or more and are healthy

Remove the name and he is an average back at best based on his
current ability.

2793277, I always root for the RB and hope teams fail when they disrespect them
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-08-23 10:13 AM
No way can anyone convince me a player who gets 15 to 20 touches a game and also protects the QB on pass plays or bails them out with dump offs isn’t worthy of real fucking money like a WR.

That is pure bullshit.

and I get they don’t last as long but gotdammit, they do way too
much to get paid so little compared to other positions.

2793288, They aren’t because of how the game is played now, and teams
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 11:29 AM
can easily find a serviceable RB at a lower salary.

Also, it’s not a technical position like QB and CB, where you have to really
spend a lot of money to get a top player. You can find a really good running
back in the later rounds of the draft easily than you can a QB or CB.

Arguably the greatest RB to ever play the game, came from a HBCU, and that
was back in the 70s.

Once a RB turns 26-27, he isn’t old. He is still in his prime, but he is going to
want more money once that rookie deal is up, but teams aren’t going to pay it

Shit look at David Montgomery. He was a stud for us and on is only 25,
but he wanted to be paid…Bears let him walk and he signed with Detroit!
Why? Because they have Khalil Herbert a similar back, and he is still
on his rookie deal. And he is 24, just one year younger ..lol
2793291, you can easily find serviceable players at most positions
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-08-23 11:41 AM
this lie about easily replacing RB’s is bullshit.

Every year a new crop of talent comes in on the cheap.

RB is the only position where people act like you can replace a top RB with some no name and get the same results.

regardless of technique.. the RB touches the ball a ton. They should be paid more.

look at a player like JuJu. Paid 8 mill last year and had 78 catches.

RB will have 200 touches and get paid 2 mill. Game hasn’t changed that much.

and the best RB is Barry fucking Sanders
2793300, It’s not BS, which is why it’s happening!
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 12:58 PM

And yes you easily can replace a RB in this day and age because the game is more
focused on the pass than the run, so by default a top RB isn’t needed because there
will not be a lot of runs plays called. So it will be a waste of money, when a team just
needs a RB for short yardage situations and GL stances. Focking teams are now
throwing on 3rd and short as opposed to running the ball

There is no way around that.


And now you got hybrid WR/RBs in Metcalf, Samuel and Patterson who are eating
away at running back carries, and that’s just going to continue to grow.

It’s like the league is reverting back to 40s and 50s when players played multiple
multiple positions

FBs have already been completely fazed out due to PA and RPOs, plus teams
can just put a TE in the backfield as an extra blocker on situational plays.

It’s just the nature of the game
2793310, I think a lot of it is defenders getting bigger, stronger and faster...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jun-08-23 02:17 PM
and taking away the run and running backs not lasting as long, the best rubbing back today is probably McCaffrey and he couldn't stay healthy until he got to be a role player in SF
2793370, defenders are leaner and longer these days.
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-09-23 02:26 PM
McCaffrey was injured because he bulked up to prove he could run between the tackles

and its football. Players get injured all the time

QB can miss a whole season with a broken ankle or torn ACL and its whatever but let a RB get injured and its “because of the position”
2793371, It’s very rare that a qb misses an entire season or tears an ACL
Posted by allStah, Fri Jun-09-23 02:32 PM
and especially with the protection rules…where with RBs they break down quicker
because they get tackled 20-30 (20-30 carries) times a game!

RBs get tackled more than any other player ln the field

Are you really trying to make a comparison here? There is none.

It’s unfortunate, but it’s the nature of the game.

Running backs are the Tires of the league …
2793375, Trey Lance missed 15 games, Murray just tore his ACL
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-09-23 03:19 PM
what are you talking about?

They put in a 3rd QB rule because QB’s were injured a ton last year.
2793378, Still rare compared to QBs
Posted by allStah, Fri Jun-09-23 03:51 PM
Trey lance is back and Murray will be too


They will continue to play at a prime level for a long time.

Where as a RB will continue to depreciate

What the hell are we even debating here?

RBs take on wayyyyyy more punishment than a QB

Lol
2793384, I'm arguing that elite RB's deserve more money
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-09-23 06:34 PM
because they handle the rock and take more punishment.

the argument most make is "RB take wayyy more punishment so they shouldn't get paid big dollars due to risk of injury.

and how do you know Murray will be back? What has he done? Same with Lance.

Daniel Jones is getting 41 mill per year... for 15 fucking passing TD's. If he gets hurt next year, shrugs right? He'll be back and better than ever.

2793373, bro, it kinda IS because of the position, doe....
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Jun-09-23 02:52 PM
and I respectfully disagree about McCaffrey. He got injured because that position is HARD, man and some humans are more prone to get injured. Like Reggie Bush...he was a fucking specimen, but he got hurt ALOT. I remember hearing Marshall Faulk say once you play a down in the NFL as a running back...your body is never the same. Think about how many guys we see/have seen where we like...yo, he's NICE at RB. Then his body just gets ground up and they fall off. Raheem Mostert, Jeff Wilson, McKinnon, David Johnson, etc. It's not even like they become trash or anything...it's just what that position does to the body. I once saw Eddie George and Javon Kearse, walking around downtown St. Louis when they were in town for a game. EG didn't even look like a human, lol...but Tennesee giving him 300 carries that season, legit broke his body. That's why I don't begrudge these dudes for getting they bread, but running backs...GET EVERY COTDAMN DIME POSSIBLE. PLEASE!!!
2793376, on any given play
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-09-23 03:24 PM
Background:

In recent years, several studies have correlated pitch count with an increased risk for injury among baseball pitchers. However, no studies have attempted to draw a similar conclusion based on number of carries by running backs (RBs) in football.

Purpose:

To determine whether there is a correlation between number of carries by RBs in the National Football League (NFL) and risk of injury or worsened performance in the subsequent season.

Study Design:

Cohort study; Level of evidence, 3.

Methods:

The ESPN NFL statistics archives were searched from the 2004 through 2014 regular seasons. During each season, data were collected on RBs with 150 to 250 carries (group A) and 300+ carries (group B). The following data were collected for each player and compared between groups: number of carries and mean yards per carry during the regular season of interest and the subsequent season, number of games missed due to injury during the season of interest and the subsequent season, and the specific injuries resulting in missed playing time during the subsequent season. Matched-pair t tests were used to compare changes within each group from one season to the next in terms of number of carries, mean yards per carry, and games missed due to injury.

Results:

During the seasons studied, a total of 275 RBs were included (group A, 212; group B, 63). In group A, 140 RBs (66%) missed at least 1 game the subsequent season due to injury, compared with 31 RBs (49%) in group B (P = .016). In fact, players in group B missed significantly fewer games due to injury during the season of interest (P < .0001) as well as the subsequent season (P < .01). Mean yards per carry was not significantly different between groups in the preceding season (P = .073) or the subsequent season (P = .24).

Conclusion:

NFL RBs with a high number of carries are not placed at greater risk of injury or worsened performance during the subsequent season. These RBs may be generally less injury prone compared with other NFL RBs.

2793486, What? You wrote a thesis in wrong? lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jun-10-23 10:38 PM
2793304, UPDATE: They did not want to pay
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Jun-08-23 01:50 PM
2793319, Exactly
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 03:05 PM
2793322, OR Scandalous, money greed and lust..
Posted by jimaveli, Thu Jun-08-23 03:56 PM
in this trife life, there ain't nobody you can't trust...its called Betrayal.

Dude helped them get away with having Cousins at QB. And now Cook gets let go with a bum shoulder that he allegedly never really got fixed.
2793330, Yup...used him as the short passing game and a security blanket for Cuzzo...
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jun-08-23 05:52 PM
ran him into the ground and threw him in the bushes.
2793334, Here is why they released him in great detail
Posted by allStah, Thu Jun-08-23 06:40 PM
“Cook, who turns 28 in August, was set to take up $14.1 million in cap space for 2023 and was due to earn $11 million if he spent the season with the Vikings. Those are big numbers for an aging running back who surpassed 1,500 touches in his career last season.

The Vikings would owe Cook $2 million if they release him. By doing so after June 1, the Vikings would save $9 million in cap space while taking on $5.1 million in dead money on their 2023 cap.”


2793366, can officially sign with the Dolphins at 4:01 Eastern, lol...
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Jun-09-23 12:46 PM
reading Dolphins and Broncos interested. I don't think he'll be out of work long.
2793820, RB’s talking about the disrespect
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-15-23 07:57 AM
I really don’t understand why elite RB’s can’t get elite contracts.. even if they are shorter contracts.

Why can’t Josh Jacobs get a 3 year $60 mill contract?

If a player is getting 300 touches, 2000 yards and also protects a QB on pass plays why cant he get a nice bag while a WR is getting $30 mill for 100 receptions?

Taylor and Najee speaking on it. Zeke got a bag tho, but when a team like the Giants gives the QB 42Mill and Barkley gets $10M?? Shit is upside down.

I know, I know.. the market, blah blah blah.. but I’m talking about the best at the position. People say that these dudes are easily replaceable but its not true. You can get another RB but will they be as special? Usually this isn’t the case. Same can be said for any position besides QB. You can find someone else who can run routes or play cornerback. Its done every year. Yet they act like replacing a RB is the easiest. Anyone is replaceable.

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Earlier this week, Najee Harris of the Pittsburgh Steelers campaigned for teams to pay his fellow running backs after Ezekiel Elliott and Dalvin Cook were released by their former employers. Big-name ball-carriers such as Saquon Barkley, Tony Pollard and Josh Jacobs have had their rights retained via franchise tags that prevented them from reaching the open market, too.

As recently as Wednesday morning, the New York Giants reportedly were "content to let Barkley play out the season" on the $10.091M franchise tender for 2023.

In January, Taylor told Ian Rapoport of NFL Network that he had undergone ankle surgery following this past campaign to address an injury he initially suffered in Week 4 of the season. While that setback presumably could make the Colts think twice about handing the 2021 rushing yards and rushing touchdowns leader an extension this summer, Taylor made it known that his camp has approached the club about the 2020 second-round draft pick remaining with the only NFL home he's known.