>>Okay, but how has Bowles handled that? How did he handle
>the
>>preseason? Probably should have started Geno from the jump.
>>They have mad QBs, drafted in good slots, as well as a
>veteran
>>and still mucked it up. If you think that won't reflect not
>he
>>coach, I don't know what to say.
>
>Fitz was a leader in the locker room and just got handed a big
>deal to play QB this season. Bowles couldn't turn around and
>start Geno. Nevermind the fact that Geno isn't that great
>either. That was a disaster on the front office's part.

Bowles should have played whoever won the job in preseason. If that was Ryan, cool. I don't know, so I can't say.

>
>Where Bowles fucked up was the Rams game. Everyone knew Petty
>wasn't ready. The locker room wanted Fitz because he gave them
>the best chance to win. Instead he opted for Petty, they lost,
>and instead of 4 - 6 and heading into the bye with a win, they
>were 3 - 7 and riddled with questions about the QB position
>and feeling like they weren't doing their best to win.

Agreed. Although I also think he could/should have put Geno in before then but whatever, agree to disagree on that

>
>Did Bowles make the best out of a bad situation? No. Did he
>make it worse? Perhaps. It was a shit situation and a lot of
>first time head coaches have struggled with similar issues.
>Belichick made the same miscue with Vinny Testeverde in
>Cleveland.

Sure, agreed. Maybe Bowles will be a good HC sometimes, maybe even next year, but right now I think he is doing a bad job.

>
>>>Revis would fall to earth,
>>
>>This doesn't reflect on Bowles?
>
>Was he supposed to find a fountain of youth? Older players
>decline. Maybe he should have seen it coming and given Revis
>more help from day 1 to prevent an embarrassment like AJ
>Green's dominance but I don't think Revis's battle with father
>time is on Bowles.

Bowles background IS as a DB coach and the secondary is in tatters, despite having good talent on paper. If he can't improve this situation, I don't see who you blame.

>
>
>>Players don't seem to go all out for him like a Lovie, or
>>Ryan, other defensive guys who people questioned their HC
>>bonafides. What players really seem like they are HIS guys?
>>Everyone flat out quit last night, they didn't even quit
>>actually, they didn't start trying.
>
>Rex's teams love playing for him and they play a stupid brand
>of football. It's fun to play for a guy who doesn't think dumb
>penalties are a reason to get yelled at (as he said this
>season.) And in his last year in NY and his first year in
>Buffalo, there were calls that the team had quit on him.

Gimme a coach whose players are motivated to play for them over one whose players are apathetic.

>
>Bowles hasn't put his imprint on the team but it's been two
>years. How many of HIS guys does he have on this team? Are he
>and the front office on the same page?

I have no idea. But two years is enough to establish an identity of some sort. I have no idea what the Jets philosophy on either side of ball is.

>
>Lovie lasted two years in Tampa Bay. And in Chicago, he had a
>defense with strong personalities. I'm not sure Bowles has
>that here.
>
>>I also don't see him developing any talent out there.
>Sheldon
>>and Wilkerson actually seem to be worse, Darron Lee looks
>>lost, everyone looks lost except Leonard Williams who is
>gonna
>>beast no matter what
>
>In another post, you said Darron Lee looks good. Mo and
>Sheldon are worrisome but I'm not sure if that's them or
>Bowles. Sounds like Sheldon is a goner and he's playing like
>it. Did getting paid change Mo?
>
>Maybe Bowles doesn't have the right attitude and needed a guy
>like Arians to fire people up. But I'm also not willing to say
>the front office isn't to blame. Besides Harris, do they have
>another leader?
>
>>He hasn't fired Chan Gailey yet. Dude is terrible, for
>reasons
>>I have already outlined in detail.
>
>This is a definite miscue. Just giving Chan Gailey the job was
>a mistake.

Agreed

>
>>He is already looking like he has no idea how to handle the
>QB
>>situation, especially under the lights in NYC. Same thing
>had
>>Rex walking out the front door with his shit in a cardboard
>>box, and Bowles is gonna end up doing the same unless he
>makes
>>a lot of changes.
>
>It's hard to handle a QB situation when you don't have any
>answers on the roster. Of course, this has been the story of
>the Jets forever.

They had guys at least good enough to be stopgaps. Maybe if you had a different OC…or a better defense…

>
>>Now someone tell me…what IS Todd Bowles good at?
>
>You cut Fitz slack for having a career year last year, why
>doesn't Bowles get slack for having the Jets overachieve last
>year?

I am not cutting Flitz any slack, and I already said Bowles deserves another year. I just have no faith he will do anything with it because evidence to date suggest he is not very good.