Very simple. Why do people constantly cyse the "toughness" and "heart" and "drive" and "competitiveness" of black athletes who engage in demonstrative displays of loserdom?

I love Russ, but I can't pretend he don't be folding when the lights get bright and things get tough. I'm not talking about being scared of the moment, I'm talking about being unable to focus when you're in it. You can't just "aggressive" your way to winning...against elite opponents. That game ain't have to be a blowout. Russ imploded and the team followed.

I ain't saying KD was right to leave, but I was reminded why he did.

Cam is a pouter, not a scowler, at least when he losing games.

sidenote: i was having a convo with my brother last night about rose and westbrook, and he said they're like bleek and shadow at the end of mo better. i was cookin. perfect analogy.

shadow won. bleek broken and washed.

i'm easily amused.

struggling on stage with that sad look on his face as shadow comes over to give him some pity applause.

>sidenote: i was having a convo with my brother last night
>about rose and westbrook, and he said they're like bleek and
>shadow at the end of mo better. i was cookin. perfect
>analogy.

I'll take that aggression

And that ain't changing

http://tinyurl.com/zb82992

Trying to be tough but "Soooooooooooooooooooft"(c) Rayford Gibson

aint have nothing to do with imploding. the team just died as soon as he went out and he couldn't get them back up.

there's not one other play maker on the team.

right before our eyes.

I don't want to hear no back to back bullshit this early in the season.

isiah didn't even act like that and he hated everybody

But Russy "don't know how to win"...with Oladipo?

LMAO

You're an embarrassment


----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Objectively the greatest player in the history of the sport.

But yeah. Scottie Pippen.

That's a fact.

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

you all over the place, O.

you ruined your whole "unflappable" mystique the moment you melted down about melo choking against PG FIVE YEARS AGO.

stay bouncing around. At least stick to something. I might be getting cooked right now, but can't no one produce receipts where I was shitting on Russ.

to call this OKC squad the millennial version of those Sixers teams Iverson led in his heyday?

It'll be interesting to see what the future holds for OKC beyond this season.

That sixer squad was a defensive beast and liked to play in that grind it out halfcourt/style.

While this thunder team is good defensively, they won't finish in the same category defensively as the sixers. They are also looking to run and gun, which plays to russy's strengths.

strictly off the optics of Iverson leading the Sixers and Westbrook leading this Thunder team, similar to how the original thread is based on the optics of Westbrook scowling after loses. I didn't mean to infer both teams were similar in style and you are correct, those old Sixers teams were much much slower than those Iverson led teams.

not gonna be bad enough for the tank...not good enough to go anywhere in the playoffs.

then you can tell Blake "we're one piece away"

On the other hand, Blake already plays with a mercurial point guard who he allegedly doesn't get along with.

Without dealing Kanter and other pieces, and if it was so easy to deal Kanter, I think the Thunder would have already, if for nothing than getting out from under that future luxury tax money and getting minutes for all their bigs/small lineups featuring Roberson at the four.

we all know real men recklessly take the last shot NO MATTER WHAT because that's what men do! ~#HurtLockerContingent

-->

but kudos...and I agree.

He doesn't have multiple speeds or poise. It's Tasmanian devil all day, every day.

And that's great until about 4 minutes left in the 4th.

and probably himself knows what he's going to do.

I expect better from you guys.

a) You obviously didn't watch the game. Russ had
the game close. He exited the game, and GSW immediately
went total apeshit and it was over. OKC can't play
from behind, because they aren't that type of team.
Their only hope is to grit and hustle and keep things
close.

b) Russ is headed for 29, 11 and 8, with a team that
starts Sabonis Jr and will be atop 4 seed in the West.
(the stronger conference, unlike Iverson, who did it
in the weaker conference). Russ is every bit as remarkable
as he's being praised for.

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>
>I expect better from you guys.
>
>a) You obviously didn't watch the game. Russ had
>the game close. He exited the game, and GSW immediately
>went total apeshit and it was over. OKC can't play
>from behind, because they aren't that type of team.
>Their only hope is to grit and hustle and keep things
>close.
>
>b) Russ is headed for 29, 11 and 8, with a team that
>starts Sabonis Jr and will be atop 4 seed in the West.
>(the stronger conference, unlike Iverson, who did it
>in the weaker conference). Russ is every bit as remarkable
>as he's being praised for.
>
>----------------------------
>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

What about KD?

Did he "not know how to win" until he joined Golden
State?

What's the KD narrative?

But on a larger note:

Ba -- what happened to you?

Say something smart, QUICK.

You used to be one of the SMARTEST mad-makers around.

Where did that go?

This is embarrassing.


----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

what about KD? he joined some guys who KNOW HOW because he knows between him and russ, there wasn't guy leading OKC who ever would know how.

what happened to you? you used to be able to read.

Calendar marked

In a loss though

Especially with that point total. Dunno how exciting it'll be to watch Westbrook stat pad since the Cavs will probably be up 26 points mid way through the second quarter, but stat padding is just about the only thing he can look forward to in that game.

at least, the use of the term. I don't see how it's stat padding that he's the only one on the team that can make a play for himself and someone else. He literally has to robin-feed these dudes their baskets. If he's on the floor...what should he do? Not play?

but he's going to get his in spectacular fashion while the Thunder will get their collective brains beaten in by the Cavs. Westbrook is playing against the defending champs and a top tier point guard, so I'd expect him to show out based on being highly competitive.

>Especially with that point total. Dunno how exciting it'll be
>to watch Westbrook stat pad since the Cavs will probably be up
>26 points mid way through the second quarter, but stat padding
>is just about the only thing he can look forward to in that
>game.


When u r on a bad to uneven team, it is not stat-padding.....

Westbrook now has to be superhuman every night for his team to have a chance to win....

if his team is down 20 with 2mins to go he's going 100% bc thats the only gear he knows and he prolly think they still gon win.

Both constantly reverted back to isolation hero ball and it cost that OKC team for years in the playoffs. Once either KD or Russy started going iso ball, the other would get frustrated and get his shots in...leading to a lot of difficulty possessions. Last season, Donovan did a tremendous job of getting them to execute down the stretch of games and was in process of changing those habits.

For 7 consecutive games in the '15 playoffs (starting after the game 3 loss to SA where Russy was really sloppy with the ball down the stretch of the game and admitted as much afterwards), both of them were consistent and disciplined in their approach to executing sets and it showed. However, both of them reverted back to their old habits when the pressure ratcheted up (which tends to happen with behavior change) when up 6 with 8 minutes left and it cost OKC that game, that series, and ultimately that partnership.

Basaglia said this right above me but it's no coincidence that KD decided to pick a team that knows how to win, whose success has been based on relentless execution. The sad part is even with that OKC loss, both Russ and KD with Donovan's influence showed they were right on the cusp of finally getting it; both of them made huge strides last year and I was really hoping to see them take the next step this season. Obviously, that's all just some alternate reality now lol.

The sad part is even
>with that OKC loss, both Russ and KD with Donovan's influence
>showed they were right on the cusp of finally getting it;

We can debate whether he's an all time great or merely a HOFer, but foh with this "he folds" shit

Athlete shows emotions = he/she cares! = competitive/gritty/etc.

Athlete doesn't show emotion = he/she doesn't care! = not competitive/gritty/etc

It's an easy binary reference point, a cognitive trap that most people fall into.

"He doesn't even care!"....which then led to "he's not even making an impact!!!". Such nonsense

Dude is the type that throws gasoline on the fire.

Is Klay in the scowling negro cult?

you got bodies piling up in there like Chris and Snoop in them vacants.

thanks to OKP trash search, i can't up where these same niggas who suck on his agenda teets now used to openly scoff at the idea that it was CRAZY to suggest he'd ever be as good as rose.

Dude is just not composed, even gunning 1s/combos like Steph and AI had more poise than he does.

dude's king of the crunchtime live-ball turnover.

>dude's king of the crunchtime live-ball turnover.

Not a gotdamn thing

I get that dude has less help than he did last year and less help than all of his MVP counterparts; however, he has shooters around him (Abrines, McDermott, Sabonis), literally half the best defenders in the league (Adams, Gibson, Roberson, even Oladipo), and several PnR finishers. He has guys around him; now, what they don't have is a good enough system or Russ facsimile to replace dude when he sits (Gordon and now Williams do a much better job for Harden; Bron has Ky; Leonard has the Spurs fucking organization).

But we can't keep saying dude has no help. They lose to the Warriors because they have less talent (and literally, who the fuck doesn't?), not no talent.

.