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2559829, Troll Talk with Basa. This Episode: USA Men's Basketball
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:09 AM
http://imgur.com/a/t0oD4


I only see 3 players who at and above their talent level and reputations. Kyrie, KD and PG. The rest of these dudes been terrible.

KD shooting 60 from the field and 60 behind the line. Leading the team in scoring. 2:1 dimes to TOs ratio. leading in blocks and tied for steals. Nah...ain't nothing else to be said. He doing his part.

Kyrie shooting 50 from the field and 47 from three. 5:1 ratio. leading in dimes. Third leading scorer.

PG shooting 48 and 37. 4th leading scorer. Best defender so far.

So who needs to step up?

The ONE GAME WONDER. Incredibly inconsistent. Lowest FG on the team after Klay, who broke out of his slump yesterday. Terrible on D. Will he step up and make plays or will the only time he's ever done that when needed remain when he was a 19 year-old college "student"? HMMMMMM...i wonder.

The BIG PASS-GETTER. Mr. Never Been To Them Offs and Still Gets Cysed Because Black Folk and White Hipsters LOVE Surly, Undisciplined Black Anti-Heroes just keeps fouling and not defending the basket. ONE block in five games. SCUST! It's okay, y'all will still give him a pass. For this...and when he don't make tha playoffs AGAIN!

The SYSTEM OF A CLOWN. Seems somebody ain't all that good outside of Golden State's offense. Maybe that's why he was a second rounder. Ball don't lie. *Shrug*

The SPLASH BROTHER. NOPE! Klay's aight now. He carried them yesterday. And it will continue.


Please discuss.

NOW THAT'S HOW YOU TROLL!
2559831, You're not giving Melo his due
Posted by Tiger Woods, Mon Aug-15-16 08:19 AM
I agree about Cousins, who we need to finally ask ourselves "is this it?" about

But Melo is the glue holding this thing together and also filling it up
2559832, i don't care for this amorphous melo cysage. i need STATS to show it.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:22 AM

he needs to be better. period.
2559837, He's been the glue
Posted by ThaAnthology, Mon Aug-15-16 08:36 AM
regardless of your feelings about him.
2559841, i don't see a "glue" stat, sir. please produce one and i'll comment.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:37 AM
2559852, lol
Posted by Cenario, Mon Aug-15-16 08:58 AM
2559840, 2nd leading scorer, 2nd leading rebounder, 44% from 3, 3:1 dimes to TO ratio
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 08:37 AM
Shutup.
2559842, he had one good game...not impressive. oh well.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:38 AM
2559843, one good game but he's 2nd in points and rebounds, first in 3's?
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 08:43 AM
Nah. He's doing his part. All that speaks for itself, the same way you want the numbers you listed for the players you like to do so.
2559845, could used more scoring from him, but he can't prosper w/o gunning
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:48 AM

typical volume scorer.

KD can just get his easy tho...within the flow.

they just different.
2559848, more rebounds and better a/to ratio
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 08:54 AM
2559849, more bricks and worse defense
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:55 AM
2559858, defense? You conveniently left that out of your Kyrie write up
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 09:01 AM
2559864, don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:09 AM
seems every been talking about how a carmelo-led team was bound to suck on defense. i didn't think of that, but they right. he terrible.
2560052, Ya boy has the lowest defensive bball IQ by far.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 01:33 AM
u couldn't have been watching. couldn't have been. probably just get the stat lines after the games and start goin in lol.

u need me to show u some lowlights? cuz i will. nigga is straight retarded on defense. in plain sight.
2560056, i got lowlights on deck, too. gifs all over twitter and tumblr
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 06:35 AM

go for it. melo been old and stiff.
2560123, Fam, this aint OE. I respect the hell outta Melo, but he's not
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 01:32 PM
the greatest anything. maybe the most under-appreciated, probably the most complete offensive game in his prime, but not the greatest anything.

no one short of Mike or maybe Lebron, Kareem/Wilt/Hak could've taken any of his bullshit NBA teams to the finals.

for me this is about Kyrie and how his lazy, retarded, niggardly behavior on defense is killing Team USA.

now it's not just him, and in his defense (no pun intended) he's been a brilliant scorer on offense... but we both know if Chris Paul was running the show none of these games would probably be close... in spite of KD vs Auzzi and Serbia.
2560126, chris paul not here tho. he usually not around when summer starts
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 01:36 PM

that's who he is. if the cavs had him, bron would be gettin fried right now and bron will tell you and CP3 that to y'all face.

2560136, That's a silly argument right there, holmes.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 02:38 PM
why would a supreme facilitator need to be on the same team with another supreme facilitator? that has nothing to do with what i said lol.

apples to oranges dog. stay focused on the topic that *you* posted about. Kyrie's retardation on defense is putting Team USA in bronze medal contention.
2560247, No it isn't. USA almost lost with CP3 against Lithuania and Spain
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 11:09 AM
no need to rewrite things cause you salty.
2560616, U gonna have to be a little more specific.
Posted by thebadnegro, Fri Aug-19-16 12:16 AM
when and where?
2559835, nah, KD's the problem (let these dudes tell it)
Posted by dula dibiasi, Mon Aug-15-16 08:34 AM
"system of a clown" is pretty good btw.
2559836, KD has looked shockingly slow and lead footed, even for him
Posted by B9, Mon Aug-15-16 08:35 AM
2559838, maaaaaan, that ball is going through the hoop at 60%. simple as that.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:37 AM
2560053, Oh word? How bout the last 3 games?
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 02:21 AM
forty something % with 6 assists, 6 turnovers shitty defense, minimal rebounds/blocks and not making anyone around him better.

nice to know doing your part only consists of shooting performance, regardless of how many points u give up at the other end and how often you don't put your teammates in position to score.

weird to think that people who actually follow bball closely look at a few isolated stats and really think KD is playing well.


2560057, how bout the whole tournament? stop breaking shit up to suit you
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 06:36 AM
2560728, You have to admit his motivation is and always has been
Posted by B9, Fri Aug-19-16 04:39 PM
Questionable. KD trying and getting hyped looks a lot like KD working a word find looks a lot like KD pumping gas looks a lot like KD playing FIBA. Dude needs CT Fletcher in his life in physical and mental ways badly.
2559844, Boeheim and Thib's assistant coaching has been awful
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:45 AM

Thibs in charge of defense, right? Well, there ya go.

And Boeheim just ain't on this level. He's clearly above his head coaching this much talent. No one listening to him. SMH.
2559847, if they played 100% 2-3 zone, they'd be better off
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 08:52 AM
K should just give Jimmy the reigns on that end. Kyrie's a turnstile and can't pressure the ball anyway, and they don't have any spazzy dorks that will slide in and undercut or flop for charges, and the refs wouldn't call that bullshit at this level anyway.

The players look confused and lost on D.
2559854, nobody playing that junk defense against euro shooters
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 08:59 AM
2559860, Boeheim's 2-3 is different than the fat guys at the Y's 2-3
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 09:03 AM
Shooters aren't a problem, going by the opponent 3 point FG % every year.
2559867, it's trash
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:14 AM
2559868, Nope.....lazy assessment
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 09:14 AM
2559874, my assessment is they not playing it...so it's trash
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:19 AM
you got some of the greatest mind in the game all agreeing it's trash and to not play it and you talmbout MY assessment?

my lil assessment or your stupidity don't matter. k, thibs AND jim telling you it's trash every time the team don't play it.

so...
2559877, Nah, they're sticking with what most of the players know
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 09:40 AM
Maybe they are wrong.
2559878, maybe melo should play better
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:43 AM
2559881, The leading scorer the last 3 games? Him?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 09:57 AM


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559886, Yeah, the perennially poor shooting "shooter"
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 10:01 AM

don't understand how such a good shooter is below 35% from 3 and 85% from the line during his career.
2559889, Ask Coach K why he love 'Melo so much.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 10:11 AM



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559891, i'm asking melo fans why he can't hit historical "shooter" marks
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 10:18 AM

maybe he don't practice his FTs as much as pull up jumpers.

maybe he don't even practice them as much as his struggle crossovers.

2559907, Isn't coach K a better person to ask? He's praised him for a decade.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 10:59 AM

So why does coach K tolerate a fat lazy non-shooter?

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559909, i'd be curious to know what K thinks is the reason for melo's weak %'s
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 11:02 AM
2559914, I'd be curious what K thinks about you being sad Melo the GOAT
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 11:43 AM


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559923, until y'all started acting like he was gon have to CARRY the team...
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 12:24 PM

i weas not thinking about this. now i'm watching every game waiting for him to look sorry. and since that game...he has
2559924, RE: until y'all started acting like he was gon have to CARRY the team...
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 12:29 PM
>
>i weas not thinking about this. now i'm watching every game
>waiting for him to look sorry. and since that game...he has

No he hasn't. Scored doubles and had multiple big hoops down the stretch at critical times where we needed a bucket in every one of these close games. 2nd leading rebounder. Takes care of the ball and doesn't do stupid shit(way too many casual passes for turnovers by this team)
2559930, he's looked washed and sorry. he good for one outburst a week now.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 12:54 PM
2559931, Kyrie's defense has been the biggest weak link on the team on that end
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 12:58 PM
If CP3 was on this team, all would be well. Someone who can defend and distribute and make good decisions at an elite level and shoot and score at close to the same level as Kyrie.
2559933, guess who got two thumbs and a favorite player with a ring?
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 01:00 PM

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mlp/images/8/84/This-guy.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130911170743
2559934, yeah.....his defense been hurting the team though
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 01:01 PM
2559936, so has melo's and his shooting been trash outside one game
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 01:03 PM

kyrie consistent. you can depend on him to show ALL THE TIME.

melo always been a fake superstar. and he actin like it now.

ky gon show when the time comes. will melo?

2559938, RE: so has melo's and his shooting been trash outside one game
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 01:10 PM
>
>kyrie consistent. you can depend on him to show ALL THE TIME.

You can depend on him to get buckets, struggle on D, and for the offense to often lack flow and the right guys not getting the ball when and where they should get if he's the one running it.......consistently. If we had CP3 and could move Kyrie to the 2, we'd be all set.

>melo always been a fake superstar. and he actin like it now.

By scoring more big crunch time buckets than anyone on the team by far(to be fair, Kyrie is second) so far?
>ky gon show when the time comes. will melo?
>

He has been. They lose to Australia without him......and possibly to Serbia without his 4 straight points late when the offense was badly sputtering..and then he didn't touch the ball the last two scoreless possessions that kept Serbia alive.....point guard's fault.

He cut off several France runs with big threes too.
2559941, you not gon talk to me like melo ain't known for having trash D
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 01:23 PM
>>
>>kyrie consistent. you can depend on him to show ALL THE
>TIME.
>
>You can depend on him to get buckets, struggle on D, and for
>the offense to often lack flow and the right guys not getting
>the ball when and where they should get if he's the one
>running it.......consistently. If we had CP3 and could move
>Kyrie to the 2, we'd be all set.

he ain't CP3 and CP3 damn sure ain't him. oh well. all i know is the difference is melo starting instead of comeing off that pine behind bron and KD this time. for all y'all lil darts at KD, this what he did against spain...a GOOD TEAM...when it mattered in the gold medal game...

http://www.espn.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/men/boxscore?gameId=1172

see? y'all kept pressing it and now these facts bout to eat y'all asses up.


>>melo always been a fake superstar. and he actin like it now.
>
>
>By scoring more big crunch time buckets than anyone on the
>team by far(to be fair, Kyrie is second) so far?

please. it ain't got tough yet. when it does, you'll know because melo won't be doing anything. kyrie will. and i bet klay will, too. they've done it at THE HIGHEST LEVEL. melo be folding.


>>ky gon show when the time comes. will melo?
>>
>
>He has been. They lose to Australia without him...

and they lose yesterday without klay...a champion. and without KD...an MVP

and
>possibly to Serbia without his 4 straight points late when the
>offense was badly sputtering..and then he didn't touch the
>ball the last two scoreless possessions that kept Serbia
>alive.....point guard's fault.

you mean when he wasn't moving? yeah, he got the ball and did his usual trash triple threat and luckily he hit them shots.

>He cut off several France runs with big threes too.

if his fake-elite jumper would been dropping earlier, they woulda ran away with it.
2559947, Doesn't matter.....I watch the games and see the perimeter D struggling
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 01:32 PM
and it's starting at the PG spot.

>>>kyrie consistent. you can depend on him to show ALL THE
>>TIME.
>>
>>You can depend on him to get buckets, struggle on D, and for
>>the offense to often lack flow and the right guys not
>getting
>>the ball when and where they should get if he's the one
>>running it.......consistently. If we had CP3 and could move
>>Kyrie to the 2, we'd be all set.
>
>he ain't CP3 and CP3 damn sure ain't him. oh well. all i know
>is the difference is melo starting instead of comeing off that
>pine behind bron and KD this time. for all y'all lil darts at
>KD, this what he did against spain...a GOOD TEAM...when it
>mattered in the gold medal game...
>
>http://www.espn.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/men/boxscore?gameId=1172
>
>see? y'all kept pressing it and now these facts bout to eat
>y'all asses up.

Wrong guy. I didn't throw any darts at KD. In fact. I was the one who pointed out he's leading the team in scoring.


>>>melo always been a fake superstar. and he actin like it
>now.
>>
>>
>>By scoring more big crunch time buckets than anyone on the
>>team by far(to be fair, Kyrie is second) so far?
>
>please. it ain't got tough yet. when it does, you'll know
>because melo won't be doing anything. kyrie will. and i bet
>klay will, too. they've done it at THE HIGHEST LEVEL. melo be
>folding.

Last 3 games could've been L's. Melo came through in all of them.

>>>ky gon show when the time comes. will melo?
>>>
>>
>>He has been. They lose to Australia without him...
>
>and they lose yesterday without klay...a champion. and without
>KD...an MVP
>
>and
>>possibly to Serbia without his 4 straight points late when
>the
>>offense was badly sputtering..and then he didn't touch the
>>ball the last two scoreless possessions that kept Serbia
>>alive.....point guard's fault.
>
>you mean when he wasn't moving? yeah, he got the ball and did
>his usual trash triple threat and luckily he hit them shots.
>
>>He cut off several France runs with big threes too.
>
>if his fake-elite jumper would been dropping earlier, they
>woulda ran away with it.

Nope, you can't run away with it if you can't get stops. France's PG got in the paint at will. They were shredding us. Biggest difference from the previous teams is the perimeter D.
2559948, ain't much to be said about 6:1 from a PG, bruh. Cry your ass off.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 01:35 PM

Your man takes trash shots and don't MOVE.

2559987, so I guess he's played "at his talent level" because we expect trash on D?
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 04:51 PM
I thought he had some good moments defensively in the playoffs, so I thought he was capable of a little more than this on D.

He's played well as far as doing the things he's good at. The team's perimeter D has been a problem though, and he's a big part of it. Hope he does better going forward.
2559990, you right 44% and trash D is to be expected of melo.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 05:22 PM
ain't like he gettin better at this point in his career. you right. my bad.
2559991, Melo's D been better than Kyrie's
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 05:36 PM
44% from 3 too, and leading the team in 3 pointers made.
2559992, prove that with stats, please. kyrie been better than melo, period.
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 05:44 PM

i can prove that...with stats.
2559995, No.
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 06:08 PM
2559996, respect
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 06:08 PM
2559853, lol
Posted by Cenario, Mon Aug-15-16 08:59 AM
2559855, but, Ba...KD is an awful front-runner (c)
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Aug-15-16 08:59 AM
.
2559856, i don't agree with it...but this a good post, ba....well done.
Posted by Cenario, Mon Aug-15-16 09:00 AM
2559863, i was chillin, dogg. then they started sending 'bliminals for no reason
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:05 AM


and people have the nerve to say my agendas ruined the board.

there have ALWAYS been agendas. i used to lurk on this board in the early 2000s and watch Kobe fans who call themselves Laker fans lowkey hate on Shaq...and vince and AI and Pauly...ANYONE who got in Kobe's way was a problem.

But I'm the problem because I lifted the veil and tried to expose this stannish behavior as the pathetic man-boy comedy it is.

2559866, *Ahem* Stats the last 3 games. vs. Good teams:
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 09:13 AM

Since Basa only cares about a few players agenda
wise, and this is mostly about shitting on Carmelo,
let's just look at the stats the last 3 games, vs
Australia, Serbia and France:

KD: 14.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2 dimes

Klay: 13 ppg, 2 rpg, 1.3 dimes

Ky: 14.7 ppg, 2 rpg, 7.3 dimes

Carmelo: 17.7 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 dimes

PG: 7.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.3 dimes


But you know what?

I don't even NEED that.

Carmelo the best ever even if that WASN'T true.

Carmelo would be the best ever if he was getting
HARRISON BARNES minutes.

I COULD get petty and talk about how the TIMING of
the scoring...how Carmelo was the only nigga who
showed up in the first half vs. Australia, or else
USA might have gotten blown out. I COULD talk about
Melo draining them shits RIGHT when France was going
on runs.

But I don't need that.

Carmelo the GOAT FIBA player.

And you know what's going to solidify it?

When those OTHER NIGGAS, ALL OF THEM closer to their
prime, do their elite thing.

Because that's what niggas in their prime do.

Carmelo gonna be the best ever, BECAUSE those other
niggas do their part.

And if they don't?!?!?

Their fault. Carmelo already FIBA legend. The rest of
them ain't proven shit.

So this is an unbreakable win for Carmelo.

I REALLY hop e he get Harrison Barnes minutes the rest of
these Olympics. He has EARNED that right. He should be
towel waving like ML Fucking car with platano dried up
pussy cream on the side of his face....getting MORE FAT!

And if those ALLEGEDLY ELITE YOUNG SPRINGY niggas do their
job, I'd talk my shit ANYWAY.

He shouldn't even be starting GIVEN HOW YOUNG AND SPRINGY the rest of
these niggas are.

So why he start? Because COACH K TRUST him more than these
young springies. He has almost said as much.


So cry y'all little wimps!!




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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559870, I ain't watching your Leave It To Cleaver show again
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:16 AM

especially since the bulk of melo stats is ONE GAME.

he just needs to play better. period.
2559875, Bwahahaha. Nigga. You in here fighting a losing battle. Stop it.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 09:25 AM

I just disproved your central assertion with FACTS.

Oh, and Klay has had one good game too.

Just accept the FACTS.

Carmelo "fat and old" (c) You

He should be getting Harrison Barnes minutes

He not cuz K trust him.

And he the GOAT



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559876, klay's obviously had one good game. i said so. so has melo
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:27 AM

sorry, bruh.
2559880, So you're trolling Klay? I'm confused.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 09:56 AM

Who are you trolling, exactly?


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559884, whoever responding to an obvious troll with pleas
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 09:59 AM
2559890, Ahhh so you just mad. Okay, FINE. We good then.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 10:11 AM
>


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559892, i WAS. now i'mma dictate how this gon go until the closing ceremony
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 10:21 AM

thank yourself, bruh.

better hope he don't suck. we in it now. i KNOW *MY GUY* gon show when it gets tough...because that's just what he does.

better hope yours does.
2559908, If USA win, and Carmelo get H.Barnes minutes, I'm still partying
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 11:01 AM

Sorry

He'll be FIBA immortality

You just gonna have to be mad

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559910, i'm starting to hope they lose, so their ringless "leader" FRIES
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 11:05 AM
i can play this ANY way that suits me.

i got plenty of options.

K gon still be K

K gon still be 24 with a ring

And it will be the latest chapter in melo's storybook of post-cuse FAILURE. no Kob? No Bron? they gotta depend on Melo to SHOW them how to win? LMAO!!!

so, again...thank yourself, bruh. we had a truce. *shrug*
2559915, KD the leading scorer tho. If they lose, the leader gets fried.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 11:44 AM

Those are the rules


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2559897, Cool...
Posted by murph71, Mon Aug-15-16 10:36 AM



trolling, my dude....
2559900, Cool pretending to be impartial and unconcerned, bruh
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 10:42 AM

murph gon murph.

bulls sorry and all duke players gon. we don't have anymore business, so i don't expect to say much to you on this board, dogg...unless you just inject yourself in my agendas like you doing now.

2559904, RE: Cool pretending to be impartial and unconcerned, bruh
Posted by murph71, Mon Aug-15-16 10:52 AM



Nope...U and other few heads seem to be bringing agenda wars into the Olympics...Y'all keep dancing...I'm just getting some chips and checking out the punch bowl

But let's be clear...In the NBA? U already know who I'm riding for....Anybody going against my Bulls....Fuck 'em.....Fuck Bron, Fuck Kyrie, Fuck the ball boy.....

But when those Negroes are putting on that USA uniform I'm leaving my inner-pettiness at the door....

Well, only so much...Fuck Coach K's Republican ass.....
2559906, bringing YOU in? HOW? nah, REALLY...explain, bruh
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 10:57 AM
i was MINDING MY BUSINESS. melo gets 30 and all hell broke loose.

you know why? because melo fans know he a loser and he ain't winning anything...so they took the time to cyse his lil game and throw darts at KD, Ky, K and THE WHOLE TEAM.

now, i'm firing back.

i'm tryna figure what any of this got to do with you, bro.

this is all happening because melo had 31. we all know it.

and K voted for Obama...TWICE. people don't always vote their affiliation. my mother, registered Dem, voted for reagan TWICE. but, you can't help what you've allowed yourself to believe.
2559916, and people thought I was merely being MAD talkin' about Donkeylips
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Aug-15-16 11:50 AM
>The SYSTEM OF A CLOWN. Seems somebody ain't all that good
>outside of Golden State's offense. Maybe that's why he was a
>second rounder. Ball don't lie. *Shrug*

don't get me wrong, I was mad.
But I've seen people talking about how Welven >>>>>>>>> Melo

and Melo is taking a diarrhea-fied shit on those hot takes right now
2559918, I haven't watched 1 minute of the team play...BUT
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Aug-15-16 11:59 AM
knowing International hoops and this team, it's not a great fit for Demarcus to shine.

Post players rarely shine. Especially post players that need touches.

He's not athletic so he's not gonna finish oops. He doesn't block shots.

And he gets frustrated with foul calls. And the international game is physical and he might not get calls.

He's probably not moving his feet well on defense after getting in foul trouble or being frustrated. And out doubt this team talks a lot on defense.

His contribution should solely be rebounding and put backs. Then run the floor. Maybe get a 2 post looks a game. No way is gonna get featured in International Hoops with this bunch of players.
2559919, i expected more rebounding from him and DJ
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 12:18 PM
2559925, If he plays 10 mins, he should have 10 rebounds.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Aug-15-16 12:29 PM
He gets too frustrated with bs.
2559999, might not be a bad idea to feed him a few touches early
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 06:20 PM
He can score. It might get him going. Otherwise, what's he there for?

* I don't think I have caught the opening minutes of any of these games so can't speak on how involved they've gotten him early on to this point.
2560055, This is exactly why they're struggling on offense.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 03:31 AM
this and the fact that they have no elite playmakers on the roster.

it makes absolutely no sense not to give Demarcus the ball in the half court offense. i believe if he played on the second unit and they gave him the ball they would play better than the starters.
2559935, Boogie is some absolute bullshit
Posted by cantball, Mon Aug-15-16 01:02 PM
At least Jah would try
____________________

<================== Learn the name now before everyone gets dunked on
2559937, this is a very astute observation and great contribution to this thread
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 01:04 PM
2559951, lol...you killin me in here.
Posted by Cenario, Mon Aug-15-16 02:15 PM
2559954, dogg, we couldn't even all just shut up and enjoy the olympics
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 02:24 PM

2559957, right.....because you got mad at a Melo post for no good reason
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 02:31 PM
2559960, you mean the post where KD was a beta and Ky was worthless?
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 02:37 PM

2559962, Nobody was talking about Kyrie in there....you came in mad real early
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 02:43 PM
2559964, even if that weren't a lie, you concede to the KD slander?
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 02:46 PM
2559965, a few(not me) were going at KD pretty hard in there
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 02:50 PM
I didn't see anyone going after Kyrie. You came in right away trying to make it about Kyrie though.
2559966, no, shells made it about kyrie and i made a FACTUAL statement
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 02:54 PM

all i said was HE GETTIN LAST SHOT if it comes to that.

because he is.

and you got mad.
2559968, you still trippin off that?
Posted by bshelly, Mon Aug-15-16 03:07 PM
you misinterpreted what i said. i think kyrie should have the gravitas among his teammates to get the last shot but that it will go to melo and durant because they're older and more established.
2559971, Nah. He mad Carmelo legacy intact. DC-Bmore beef.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 03:13 PM

So he's inventing this Kyrie thing

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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2559981, No misinterpretation. I simply disagreed
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 03:34 PM
KD went for 30 against Spain when it mattered most in 2012. The Young Legend set the World on fire in 2014 and was FIBA MVP.

The fuck has Melo done outside that opening round one-off game that got all y'all cysed to WARRANT his ass getting the final shot?

Not a damn thing. You were the moment's prisoner and you cysed some shit. I disagreed.
2560061, You honestly sound mad.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-16-16 07:51 AM
>KD went for 30 against Spain when it mattered most in 2012.
>The Young Legend set the World on fire in 2014 and was FIBA
>MVP.

Who cares

>The fuck has Melo done outside that opening round one-off game
>that got all y'all cysed to WARRANT his ass getting the final
>shot?

Nobody said that

>Not a damn thing. You were the moment's prisoner and you cysed
>some shit. I disagreed.

Nah, but you got mad


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2560068, whatever my emotional state was last week...it don't matter now
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 09:14 AM

we are where we are and now i'm going to be posting about the knicks and all the help melo got.
2560070, He's gone full 'Neto. Nothing we can do but let it pass and/or laugh
Posted by bshelly, Tue Aug-16-16 09:31 AM
2560075, ain't no lettin this pass. i'm shittin on melo all year, dogg.
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 09:39 AM

me and O had squashed all this. nigga threw it away to cyse 31 points in a meaningless olympic opening round game. he just HAD to try to redeem melo and those playoffs absences. and you know what? that was fine. my first response was "cool".

THEN...

KD some bullshit

He gotta carry Kyrie and everybody else

oh, fuck nah...that never-won-shit nigga gotta carry 4 or 5 dudes that are BETTER than him?

2560190, Ba, you posting like Cold Truth. It's sad to watch.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-16-16 10:36 PM

There's no stakes, and nobody cares, like, at all.

At all.

>
>me and O had squashed all this. nigga threw it away to cyse 31
>points in a meaningless olympic opening round game. he just
>HAD to try to redeem melo and those playoffs absences. and you
>know what? that was fine. my first response was "cool".
>
>THEN...
>
>KD some bullshit
>
>He gotta carry Kyrie and everybody else

>oh, fuck nah...that never-won-shit nigga gotta carry 4 or 5
>dudes that are BETTER than him?

Didn't none of that shit make sense.

None of it.


2560303, This "truce" was more short-lived than a Black Crowes reunion tour
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Wed Aug-17-16 04:34 PM
2560807, it don't matter...I was gon have to be chris anyway.
Posted by Basaglia, Sat Aug-20-16 05:17 PM

and he was gonna be playing shitty solos and trash rhythm sections.
2559969, RE: no, shells made it about kyrie and i made a FACTUAL statement
Posted by DJR, Mon Aug-15-16 03:12 PM
Shells: Maybe Kyrie could do it, but he doesn't have the gravitas among the other dudes yet.

It should be Durant, but Beta Male.

Thankfully Melo looks up for it.

(Nothing bad about Kyrie in there)

You: "all i know is The Young Legend will be taking The Shot if needed"

i mean...we all know it.

so, y'all can have this lil shit

(Gave a salty vibe at the end there.....we should've have all been happy for Melo's heroics at that point IMO)

Me: "SMH, ain't no reason to come in this post salty"

2559974, i'm getting lumped in with melo stans, somehow
Posted by bshelly, Mon Aug-15-16 03:21 PM
2559975, 30 in the THIRD GAME of the Olympics is "lil shit"
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 03:22 PM
As opposed to going for 30 in the gold medal game against what many thought was the best team.

Betas gon beta.

More games to go. We shall see.
2560002, Maddest I seen Basa in a cool min.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 06:57 PM

Pathetic


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2560004, i'll let you know when you've topped summer 2013 madness levels
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 07:01 PM

it's coming.


2560060, The year Carmelo won a scoring title?!? You mean "happy"
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-16-16 07:50 AM

You mad
2560066, he ain't win the scoring in the 4th quarters of playoff games title
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 09:12 AM

i know that much.

we had a truce. you threw it away to cyse 31 in the opening round of the olympics.

SMH...LOL...you my dogg, but GOTdamn, O. the fuck was THAT?

were you missing having something to cyse about melo that much, dogg?

it will prove to not be worth it many times over.
2560122, Basa, this is transparent and corny. But I'll continue to pile on.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-16-16 01:31 PM

Because it's fun.


1) I mean, you just openly tried to clown a scoring title.
The "Play to Seed" thing came when you saw that scoring title
coming, realized the Pacers (who gave the champion Heat hell)
were the far better team, would beat the Knicks. Your only
glue was that Iverson fans were still mad at Melo, which
they are not now (which is why Bshelly and ConcreteCharlie
aren't playing along now...they are over it and don't care

2) That Carmelo has been a fabulous FIBA player was an argument
made BY COACH K FIRST. It is the anatomy of his "Jabari = Carmelo"
argument....that you IGNORED (Paul Pierce...LMAO...No, nigga).
K LOVES Carmelo's game, leadership and...*gulp* WORK ETHIC. He
proclaimed him an unofficial tri-captain BACK IN 2008! LMAO!!!

3) Carmelo's greatness is now about how he does it BOTH ON AND
OFF the court. He's a Afro-latino leader of many communities, and
will be the winningest FIBA athlete ever! AND he knows how to speak
like an adult and talk about race, such that me and you don't HAVE
TO COP PLEAS for him sounding like a post-racial idiot (me and you
agree on Cam, but we are ultimately copping pleas for him being
scared)

So carry on.

2560124, RE: Basa, this is transparent and corny. But I'll continue to pile on.
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 01:33 PM
>
>Because it's fun.
>
>
>1) I mean, you just openly tried to clown a scoring title.
>The "Play to Seed" thing came when you saw that scoring title
>coming, realized the Pacers (who gave the champion Heat hell)
>were the far better team, would beat the Knicks. Your only
>glue was that Iverson fans were still mad at Melo, which
>they are not now (which is why Bshelly and ConcreteCharlie
>aren't playing along now...they are over it and don't care

i don't care. i'm frying melo and the knicks all year.


>2) That Carmelo has been a fabulous FIBA player was an
>argument
>made BY COACH K FIRST. It is the anatomy of his "Jabari =
>Carmelo"
>argument....that you IGNORED (Paul Pierce...LMAO...No, nigga).
>
>K LOVES Carmelo's game, leadership and...*gulp* WORK ETHIC.
>He
>proclaimed him an unofficial tri-captain BACK IN 2008!
>LMAO!!!

i don't care. i'm frying melo and the knicks all year.



>3) Carmelo's greatness is now about how he does it BOTH ON
>AND
>OFF the court. He's a Afro-latino leader of many communities,
>and
>will be the winningest FIBA athlete ever! AND he knows how to
>speak
>like an adult and talk about race, such that me and you don't
>HAVE
>TO COP PLEAS for him sounding like a post-racial idiot (me and
>you
>agree on Cam, but we are ultimately copping pleas for him
>being
>scared)
>
>So carry on.

i don't care. i'm frying melo and the knicks all year.
2560153, Fine! So you just mad? That's what I thought.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-16-16 04:37 PM

We're fine

If it's good old fashioned mad, I can live with that.
2559967, Noted
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon Aug-15-16 03:05 PM
2559939, Have apologies been extended to Lebron James and Kyrie Irving yet?
Posted by Vex_id, Mon Aug-15-16 01:16 PM
If not - looks like it's going to be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong season.

All Autumn/Winter '16.

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2559943, dogg, i was hibernating. they cysed washed dude to throws shots at Ky
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Aug-15-16 01:27 PM

vex, i can't even get a summer off around here. i was enjoying my day and then melo scored 31 and they went crazy and started talking reckless, saying he had to carry Ky and KD scared.

KD was out there DESTROYING spain for 30 in the gold medal game while melo was on the bench biting his nails because K ain't want his no D playing, no big shot hittin ass out there.
2560116, This aint 2012 nigga. KD's game has regressed like a mufucka.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 01:13 PM
and the fact that he signed with his oppressors (GSW) shows just how far up his stomach his nuts have retracted.
2560125, nigga, the facts say otherwise. KD leading in scoring on 60% FG
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 01:34 PM
2560134, That stat does not change the fact that KD's hurting this team
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 02:29 PM
...especially when you're including blowout games against bball versions of Sergio Mora (boxer).


and again let me repeat this for u so u retain it...

shooting performance does not determine one's overall performance, especially when you're constantly giving up points at the other end, turning the ball over, making bad decisions with the ball, and not putting your teammates in position to score.

weird to think that people who actually follow bball closely look at a few isolated stats and really think KD is playing well.




2560135, i'm not debating ambiguities, my dude. give supporting evidence
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 02:31 PM
2559942, OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE!
Posted by RandomFact, Mon Aug-15-16 01:24 PM
MY AGENDA IS BETTER THAN YOUR AGENDA BECAUSE OF OFFENSE!

This team does not give a fuck about defense. There are like three guys on the team that actually put forth an effort. But thats not enough when the rest of the world has learned how to pass, play as a cohesive unit and shoot from distance. This isn't 1992. The world is slowly catching up. This shit is a glorified Rucker game for most of these guys. Including Young Legend.

And lol @ blaming the coaching. These dudes are not trying to listen to Thibs yell or K pontificate. They're half-assing it on a basketball-playing summer vacation. I assume every Olympic team with NBA guys before them was on the same shit, but the difference now is that the world doesn't suck. Gotta play D. And maybe not ISO every other possession.



2559946, it's not a coaching issue even, it's a roster issue
Posted by Tiger Woods, Mon Aug-15-16 01:29 PM
2559949, It's an effort and ego issue.
Posted by RandomFact, Mon Aug-15-16 01:37 PM
They don't want to kill themselves over the summer (which is understandable) so the effort isn't fully there. They're also on a vacation in Rio, even though they would never admit to that.

And they think they can ISO and take these goofy looking white guys and Euro's off the dribble every time they get a touch. That shit was worked in the past but the world is figuring out that team cohesion and physicality may actually be effective at combating the significant talent gap.

I'm not trying to hear anything about the way this team was put together. They're still the best of the best. No excuse for them not being able to figure it out.
2559952, basically.
Posted by Cenario, Mon Aug-15-16 02:17 PM
2560159, Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Aug-16-16 06:03 PM
Everything you've said, basically.

I don't even think the all-offense lineup would be an issue if they even defended a *little* better. They don't need to totally reboot this undefeated team's methods. They just need to exert more effort on defense-- not even a ton! just a little!-- and that's where it falls into effort and ego, as you said.

All these "Coach K is to blame!" people just need a scapegoat, and it's easy to pin it on the coach.
2559972, Just finished watching the last 3 games. Fucking disgraceful.
Posted by thebadnegro, Mon Aug-15-16 03:14 PM
I must be old foreal now, cuz some of these cats have no respect for the game, ESPECIALLY Kyrie and KD. you'd never think that 5 year NBA vets, much less elite all-stars, could be caught out of position or flat out asleep on defense so many times. offensively i'm sure the stats make KD look great when u include the first 2 non-competitive games. other than that, he shitty, with shitty decision making ability.

i see why KD went to GS now. he's faded and he knows it. i suspected it when i watched him in the playoffs settling for all those turn around- fade away jumpers off 1 or 2 dribbles, and now it seems clear. he doesn't go to the hole nearly as much as he used to, nor is he nearly as effective and explosive in the open court. the injuries and his fear of future injuries have fucked KD's game up, mentally and physically.

i already went in on Kyrie in that other bullshit Ky/Klay post.

Draymond sucks outside of that GS system. his lack of athleticism, an inconsistent J, lack of scoring ability and lack of post game are all being exposed. he does not belong on this team.

Kyle Lowry does NOT belong on this team.

Cousins' struggles are mostly due to Coach K. he's never been a rim protector, but maybe someone should remind Coach K and the rest of team USA that Cousins averaged 27 pts per game last season. you'd think since there are NO elite playmakers on this team and no chemistry in the half court offense, it might be a good idea to GIVE HIM THE FUCKING BALL IN THE POST and let him get off.. which may- brace yourself for this high science- which may force opponents to double team him or at least draw the defense in, and open things up on the perimeter.

another suggestion for the all time great coach who happens to have his head up his ass right now-- it might not be the wisest move in the world for the defensive guards to go over the top of ball screens set 10 feet behind the fucking 3pt line. ...and maybe when little annoying, effective guards like Holbert (or whatever the fuck the French dude's name was) are carving your defense up... maybe you should double team the little fuckers when they come off ball screens (the ones set *within* 25 ft of the basket) and at least see if they can handle that type of pressure.

i am embarrassed for American basketball right now, and just as much for American basketball coaching.

2560048, lolz. this nigga went full trump-RNC-speech.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Tue Aug-16-16 12:35 AM
is it really That dismal, b?
2560128, Considering the talent and skills gap between the US and the r.o.w. ...
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 02:02 PM
it's pretty fucking embarrassing.

2560054, KD went under the knife what, a little more than a year ago?
Posted by okayplayery, Tue Aug-16-16 02:57 AM
He obviously wasn't the same after that, especially in the post season. Who knows how that GSW series would've ended if that injury never happens. It takes about 2 years for players to fully recover, so we may yet to see the old Grim Reaper.

Also he's not going to push himself trying to win in FIBA tournaments anymore, like in 2010 or 2012. It was obvious when he bailed on the team after Paul George injured himself in scrimmage. Been there, done that for him at this point.
2560138, Yup, agreed on everything.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 03:08 PM
KD still the mark ass corny bitch nigga of the century for the GSW move, and i can no longer respect him as an athlete. still hope he does something meaningful and significant for the black community one day.

for now, he's fucking up Team USA and his minutes should be substantially reduced if they wanna play to their potential.
2559973, Black King to Latin King: Ignore dumb niggas. You're a legend.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-15-16 03:15 PM

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17302735/new-york-knicks-star-carmelo-anthony-says-lebron-james-had-calm-he-went-critics-instagram



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(C)Keith Murray, "
2559976, Basically
Posted by Beezo, Mon Aug-15-16 03:26 PM
2559984, Without a Lebron or a CP3 there the US has no real playmakers and are...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Aug-15-16 04:16 PM
forced to rely on K's offense and its failing.
2559986, K's FIBA career is going to end like it started with a bronze.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Aug-15-16 04:26 PM
2560073, he needs to start George and bring melo off the bench
Posted by bshelly, Tue Aug-16-16 09:35 AM
That way gives the starters some defense and provides enough scoring punch to the second unit that we don't have to rely on shit ass demar so much. Perhaps Klay and George can inspire Beta to try on both ends too.
2560079, you may be right, the would force Durant to assert himself more...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Aug-16-16 09:48 AM
because right now it looks like he's deferring to Melo too much.
2560140, Dude, Coach K got all the damn shooters in the starting lineup.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 03:26 PM
idk wtf is goin on with dude lately. i hate his offensive and defensive strategies for this team. i hated the way he coached Jabari and Hood's team a couple years ago too.

is Coach K getting... old? premature dementia? who would have the heart or take the career risk to tell him if it were true?


i could be waaay off here. just posing the question.
2560157, To be fair, re: 2014:
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Aug-16-16 05:55 PM
Coach thought Marshall would be ready, and he wasn't-- at all. Which left the team with *zero* interior presence, which is what led to Jabari playing so much on the inside. On top of that, Jabari and Rodney were both *awful* defenders-- among the worst defenders at Duke over the last two decades. I attribute some of Jabari's terrible D to playing out of position... but yeah. We had major roster issues there.

His main problem this year is roster-related too. But I don't think struggling to get a few NBA All-Stars to change their NBA roles for international play is indicative of dementia. Just a guess-- I'm not a doctor.
2560191, There's enough talent, size and skill on that roster to dominate
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 11:18 PM
they are thin at the pg spot and the 4, but that shouldn't matter with all the talent they got. now that said, i.m.o. KD is far from 2012 form- physically and mentally- so that's a huge dent in the talent equation, but STILL the roster is filled with NBA all stars, and there's almost no one at or near that level on these other rosters, save maybe the Gasols and maybe 1 or 2 others who i'm not thinking of. the other r.o.w. former all-stars are ol as dirt.

back to Coach K.

now i'm not a genius or nothin, but when a coach is struggling to get a few NBA All-Stars to change their NBA roles for international play... and especially when they are struggling to find any rhythm in their halfcourt offense- which is most of the time- ... then the logical thing to do is implement a game plan that focuses on GETTING THE DAMN BALL INSIDE TO YOUR FUTURE HALL OF FAME BIG MAN, AND PLAY INSIDE OUT, which would naturally open up the perimeter shooters and create more driving lanes from scrambling defenders.

...but i guess that's too much for the best coaches in the world to figure out. or maybe since they are the best coaches in the world, i'm just a fucking idiot for suggesting they do something different when running an offense that almost totally neglects passing inside has failed them for 3 games straight :/
2560202, Well...
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Aug-17-16 12:58 AM
... while I'm sure you're not an idiot, I'm also fairly confident that if it were as simple as "feed the ball, shots open up, boom," then the combined minds of K, Boeheim, and Thibodeau would have considered it and given it a go at least once.

I always just assume when it comes to coaching with a reputation for winning that they're seeing things in practices and scouting reports that I don't. Lord knows I question K (and many other winning coaches) several times a year for not playing X or using defensive scheme Y or giving the ball too often to Z... but what the fuck do I know? Maybe I'm right and they're fucking up, or maybe, in their countless additional hours with the game and the players, they're seeing something that I don't and trying what they're trying for a reason, and whether that reason pays off or not is up in the air any given night.

As said elsewhere, I'm more convinced that it's an effort/ego issue than a game-planning issue. If a couple of the players played a little better defense or moved the ball a little better-- they don't even need huge changes in effort! just little ones!-- then USA is winning double digits every game and none of this ever comes up.
2560296, They've got a 6'11" h.o.f. post scorer who they're completely ignoring.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 03:45 PM
they haven't tried even for more than 1 possession per quarter to get the ball inside, even after nearly losing 3 games straight. so in my warped mind, that's fucked up coaching.

we'll see what happens from here on out.
2560137, George, Durant, Butler, Cousins Lead Team USA In PER
Posted by RandomFact, Tue Aug-16-16 03:06 PM
Team USA PER in 2016 Olympics
1. Paul George: 25.8
2. Kevin Durant: 23.5
3. Jimmy Butler: 23.3
4. DeMarcus Cousins: 23.1
5. DeAndre Jordan: 20.9
6. Kyrie Irving: 20.8
7. Carmelo Anthony: 19.6
8. Kyle Lowry: 19.4
9. DeMar DeRozan: 16.2
10. Draymond Green: 11.0
11. Klay Thompson: 8.3
2560139, jimmy not playing enough. but, he gon shoot bricks, sooo...
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 03:14 PM
pooly constructed team
2560142, RE: George, Durant, Butler, Cousins Lead Team USA In PER
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 03:55 PM
question: do those PER stats take into account-- how many times u lose your man on a backcut and give up layups? how many defensive rotations u miss that lead to an easy basket for the opponent? how many time the man ur guarding blows by u and get a bucket or assist? how many blockouts u miss that lead to offensive rebounds for the other team?

if not then those stats don't mean much of anything beyond what i can get from a box score.

some assessments u can only make from actually watching with an educated basketball mind and see where players excel or are fucking up. even without stats, it's a very practical assessment, as you can still easily point these things out on video.
2560151, absolutely. but since this is a basa "troll talk special"
Posted by RandomFact, Tue Aug-16-16 04:31 PM
i believe it's relevant for this particular asinine discussion.
2560152, y'all just talking. post some visual confirmation for your bitchfest
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Aug-16-16 04:32 PM
i don't seen ALL them nigga get beat backdoor.

i also see KD shooting 60% and ky got a 6:1 assist ratio.

so how much can we blame the best scorer and the nigga who best setting guys up WHILE TAKING CARE OF THE FUCKING BASKETBALL?

but, y'all do y'all thing, man. i'mma do mine.
2560197, Lol you groupie.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 12:05 AM
we can start with the first play of the game. only took about 12 seconds for this nigga to expose himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUhM8ufaslA

just look at that shit. what a bullshit recovery. he runin out there all off balance like he got titties. takes the worst possible angles. chasin behind him like a little kid at the playground lol.

u probably never played no real ball in your life, but you're supposed to stutter step out to the wing on your help recovery when u get close to the shooter/driver, not over-comitt and come out all out of control with your weight leaned all over your front foot.
FUNDAMENTALS. Kyrie has practiced that shit every year since high school. drill after drill. they even make the big men do that shit.

this nigga tryin to make Steve Nash look like GP.

much more exposure to come.
2560199, Wait, I'm not even through with this one yet...
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 12:23 AM
at the end of that first play when Ky got beat, where was he going after the shot went up? look at that shit fam. WHERE DA FUCK WAS HE GOING??? LOLOLOL

nigga just ran outta bounds LOL. he didn't go after the rebound. he didn't stay with his man or try to block him out. didn't try to leak out to start the fastbreak. that shit looks crazy. he literally looked like a retarded kid, just running with no aim.

u gon learn today, grasshopper! learn the game so u can stop this outta control dickridin.

2560213, You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 08:36 AM
2560234, *tips hat*
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 10:24 AM
oh i'm not done. not even close. just don't have time to watch the game again right now and break this dude all the way down. KD gettin it too.
2560201, 1st qtr vs France, 8 minute mark. Classic Kyrie Irving matador defense.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 12:35 AM
2560216, The Young Legen.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 08:39 AM
2560219, :55 mark...Kyrie got himself, Kevin Love, Shumpert and JR a ring
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 09:08 AM

Enjoy the Summer of Kyrie. Enjoy him getting a gold and you forcing up more one-off desperate talking points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxEdwPaF1ko

2560220, Lebron or you just mad? Honest question.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 09:13 AM
>
>Enjoy the Summer of Kyrie. Enjoy him getting a gold and you
>forcing up more one-off desperate talking points.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxEdwPaF1ko
>
>
2560226, Love LeBron...too bad Melo wasn't lucky enough to have him at 22
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 09:36 AM
2560229, Yeah, Kyrie is supreme. Needs a Top 3 all-time player to win, tho.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 09:46 AM

Nothing to be mad at.


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2560237, Seems Top 3 all-time needed him, too...based on last year without him
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 10:30 AM
2560244, Lebron has only won championships with Kyrie? I'm confused.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 11:04 AM
Help me out

Also -- didn't they not have Kevin Love last year?

I'm double confused

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(C)Keith Murray, "
2560246, only won as a Cav with him...you not that confused
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 11:08 AM
2560249, And Love, no? Or you having Giuliani amnesia?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 11:22 AM

n/m


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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2560250, and RJ...and a clutch JR, a full year removed from Melo's loser habits
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 11:40 AM
2560252, You mean Sixth Man of the Year JR?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 11:43 AM


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560256, yup...same guy melo ain't play to seed with
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 12:29 PM
2560278, But had his best individual season ever with. So we good.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 02:10 PM

As long as you concede that, we good.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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2560280, "best individual" is melo and melo fans problem...loser talk
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 02:40 PM
2560294, Team played way above it's talent level that season though
Posted by DJR, Wed Aug-17-16 03:32 PM
2560314, then people on this board shouldn't have been talking shit that year
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:42 PM
2560419, 'Melo won a scoring title, you got scared, regrouped .
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:49 PM

That's all it was.

You got mad.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560438, we squashed it, you saw an opening and shit on guys better than him
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 06:25 AM
"Carmelo carrying a bunch of springy negroids in their prime
who are scared of the GLOBAL spotlight. They are fine when
its their backyard....but the global spotlight too
bright. That's why TEAM USA COUNT! It's a different kind of
pressure."

YOU did this. i kept saying "cool"....i said he was the greatest olympian. you ain't care. you saw an opening and acted a plum muhfucking fool, dogg.

my conscience is completely clear on this.

you said Kyrie was SCARED

PG was SCARED

KD was SCARED

let's be clear...YOU did this.
2560439, Nigga...you said Durant "choked" and was a "loser." You're done.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 06:32 AM

You're toast.

You fucked up on this one, mostly because you have
no allies.

You have to set up chess pieces if you're going to go in
on an agenda like this

2560443, SMH...for 31 points in group play tho? ALL THIS?!?!?
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 07:31 AM
i thought you were over this shit. i thought we had a deal for a new agenda. you tried to pick up the pieces on OLD SHIT. you couldn't just move on, huh?

for 31 points in GROUP PLAY!!! fuck is wrong with you?!?!?

LMAO...i'm gon act so stupid on the knicks this year.
2560445, "Golden State got WORSE on defense with Durant" (c) Basa
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 08:06 AM

I'm not letting up
2560449, you have no choice but to "not letting up"
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 08:12 AM

YOU did this.
2560455, "KD choked" and is "a loser" (b) Basa
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 08:35 AM

Too late

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560264, 2nd qtr vs France, 5:38.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 01:21 PM
Kyrie' back turned completely to the ball, totally focused on his man yet still can't stay with him around the screen. has no idea if he's switching or not (obviously not cuz he can't guard the damn center in the paint) then makes a half-hearted effort to recover to his man who hits an easy 15 ft jump shot.
2560272, you should do this during the season, when i REALLY won't care
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 01:48 PM

i don't need to FF on youtube talking points, because


he got a ring and it don't matter, because i can say that and go on bout my day.

now, if i pulled ringless ass melo's BAD D file from the same game, it would look EXTRA bad...cause he ain't got a ring. and i don't already seen 3 large screwups by melo in the same timespan you've found two kyrie lapses.

by the way, cuz was supposed to challenge that shot after his trash D got kyrie picked in the first damn place. and KD had rudy on rotation, so wasn't no reason for him to lose his man and sag 4 steps into the lane.

enjoy your time with them searches tho.
2560292, Too much visual confirmation got u mad again?
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 03:32 PM
i'm a bball head, this shit fun for me.

u've played yourself on these boards enough to the point where this typa shit is really not necessary. i enjoyed it all the same tho.
2560313, nigga, you don't know shit...you have agenda like everyone else
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:41 PM
2560420, Nah fam, I'm a call it how I see it nigga.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 10:56 PM
not really on that agenda shit.

...BUT just for fun, i'ma put it out there and say (and i really believe this shit) that i think Doug McDermott will be an all-star in a couple years, especially if he get's traded to a team that will use him right.

i'm sure u gonna go in on his D lol. just keep in mind Bird and Magic were both weak defenders... they just didn't do retarded shit like ya boy be doin.
2560433, Ba..you openly un-claimed Durant for the UREA. You HATE Durant.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 04:37 AM

You fucked up....you went way way way too hard
with this, now you gotta eat doo doo

I'm not letting up
2560269, still 2nd qtr, 2:50 mark. LOOK AT THIS FUCKING FOOL!
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 01:34 PM
no explanation necessary. short bus ass nigga.
2560273, i saw him looking at an unguarded man cutting through the lane
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 01:54 PM

this is great...keep 'em coming
2560421, Yeah he looked at him and stood there in a retarded silence,
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 11:09 PM
and did nothing to help stop neither that man nor his man- who was on his way to an uncontested layup.
2560437, no one picked up the man and the ball rotated back
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 05:57 AM
his man took off and no one said SHIT, because these niggas don't communicate on D.

2560526, Lolol I should make an avi out that shit.
Posted by thebadnegro, Thu Aug-18-16 12:58 PM
him and KD stay losin they' man and doin dumb shit on D. shit Melo not far behind but at least he consistently boxes out and rebounds.
2560282, 2nd qtr vs Serbia 7:28.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 02:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McEbgo_sJZs


KD clueless on how to negotiate his way thru a downscreen. first he tries to go thru, 2 men removed, then realizes that's not the move, but way too late. gives up an open 3 on a rookie mistake, but at least puts forth more effort than Kyrie.

2560284, 2 plays later at 6:22 Kyrie lookin lost as hell again.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 02:58 PM
2560289, Couple plays later KD back to doin dumb shit. (5:50)
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Aug-17-16 03:15 PM
helps on the roll guy for a second, then decides to leave him alone under the basket for a lay up.

i'm done spoon feeding u dog. niggas out here playin like mental midgets. if u don't get it u don't get it.

2560146, Butler should be playing 30 minutes a game.
Posted by thebadnegro, Tue Aug-16-16 04:06 PM
i still trust him to shoot j's from that euro 3pt line or anywhere else, but he really doesn't need to shoot many when he's playing with Klay, Melo, Kyrie and Paul George. Jimmy and Derozan can get to the hole and create for other people.

also, Cousins should be getting the ball inside at least 1 out of every 3 possessions in the half ct offense. no other reason to have him on a team full of not-so-great facilitators. another Coach K blunder.
2560231, RE: 11
Posted by bentagain, Wed Aug-17-16 10:06 AM
that's a 1 hot game every 5 game average (c)

smh@this dude continuing to avoid the fryer.
2560720, Interesting
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Fri Aug-19-16 03:46 PM
2560166, While his teammates out buying Brazilian ass, Melo in the hood being Melo
Posted by Beezo, Tue Aug-16-16 07:12 PM
http://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/17318058/olympics-2016-carmelo-anthony-visits-rio-favelas-team-usa-day
2560182, Grown man moves
Posted by Castro, Tue Aug-16-16 08:52 PM
2560222, I'd buy the Brazilian ass
Posted by Deebot, Wed Aug-17-16 09:14 AM
2560225, Mighty brave with the news of Ryan Lochte
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Aug-17-16 09:18 AM
and his pals getting robbed a few days ago. I wonder how he arranged that whole visit.
2560228, Lochte didn't get robbed in a Favela. That's Carmelo's exact point.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 09:45 AM
Favelas are communities full of love of support. They
also have tons of criminals, but so does everywhere.

You can get robbed anywhere.

You can find beautiful, hard working, kind people
in the places everyone hates.


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2560232, Call me selfish if you want
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Aug-17-16 10:17 AM
all I care about if all this goodwill Carmelo is harvesting this off season blossoming somehow with the Knicks this year. Good for him on a personal level to be doing all this great off the court maturation, but I'm a Knicks fan and I have my focal point on the team doing well.
2560243, Cool, no issue with that. n/m
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:56 AM
>all I care about if all this goodwill Carmelo is harvesting
>this off season blossoming somehow with the Knicks this year.
>Good for him on a personal level to be doing all this great
>off the court maturation, but I'm a Knicks fan and I have my
>focal point on the team doing well.


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2560241, Sudden death now...We'll see who raises their game.
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 10:51 AM
2560242, The athletic kids in their prime gonna flash.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:55 AM

They BETTER flash.


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2560248, Agreed. sure can't depend on a guy who hasn't shown up since 2003
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 11:12 AM

The Young Legend was in grade school and more clutch than melo post-2003.

sad.
2560253, Cool. If they young elites show up, Melo wins.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 11:43 AM

If they don't, he won't.

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(C)Keith Murray, "
2560257, i'm sure he'll be on the bench clapping while KD balls....AGAIN
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 12:40 PM
mad?
2560277, Oh I HOPE Carmelo is on ML Carr towel waving status
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 02:09 PM

Why?

Because it STILL COUNT.

That's why.
2560279, lotta things count, man. i'm good either way.
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 02:16 PM
2560270, Who does Arg have this year other than bald spot?
Posted by Deebot, Wed Aug-17-16 01:38 PM
2560300, WHENS FACTS ATTACK! Stats confirm Melo a selfish gunner
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 04:22 PM


http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/122837/team-usa-going-the-hero-ball-route-and-having-trouble-with-it

<<<<Who is playing the most one-on-one? Perhaps to nobody’s surprise, it’s Carmelo Anthony. He’s taken 15 shots in iso situations, three times as many as any other USA player. After Anthony, the next-most attempts in isolation for the United States have been by Kevin Durant (five attempts), Kyrie Irving (five), Jimmy Butler (three) and Paul George (three).>>>>
2560301, WHEN FACTS STRIKE BACK! Stats confirm Melo the only effective iso player
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 04:30 PM
><<<<Who is playing the most one-on-one? Perhaps to nobody’s
>surprise, it’s Carmelo Anthony. He’s taken 15 shots in iso
>situations, three times as many as any other USA player. After
>Anthony, the next-most attempts in isolation for the United
>States have been by Kevin Durant (five attempts), Kyrie Irving
>(five), Jimmy Butler (three) and Paul George (three).>>>>

"However, it’s Anthony who stands out as being the one effective isolation player for the United States in these Olympics. Entering Wednesday’s quarterfinal, Anthony is 8-of-15 in isolation situations and has not turned it over. All other USA players have combined for as many turnovers as made shots (five each) in isolation."

2560353, How many of those ISOs came against players not named Aron Baynes?
Posted by FILF, Wed Aug-17-16 07:07 PM
>"However, it’s Anthony who stands out as being the one
>effective isolation player for the United States in these
>Olympics. Entering Wednesday’s quarterfinal, Anthony is
>8-of-15 in isolation situations and has not turned it over.
>All other USA players have combined for as many turnovers as
>made shots (five each) in isolation."
2560359, More than Paul George with less turnovers.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 07:29 PM
2560428, That sure was happening against Nocioni aka a guy not named Baynes
Posted by FILF, Thu Aug-18-16 01:34 AM
2560663, It sure was happening more than Paul George with less turnovers.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Aug-19-16 11:01 AM
2560676, Can't turn the ball over when you ain't passing unless guys are WIDE open
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 12:38 PM
2560724, More assists that NyQuil too.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Aug-19-16 04:16 PM
2560733, I wonder who has a higher usage rate...
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 05:31 PM
2560743, I wonder who has more ISOs with less turnovers...
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Aug-19-16 07:30 PM
.
2560302, he's a better Iso player than those guys too
Posted by DJR, Wed Aug-17-16 04:34 PM
He's doing what he's there to do....get buckets. 2nd leading scorer, 2nd leading rebounder, leader in 3's, 44% from 3.
2560305, He there to stop ball movement and help the opposition's ball movement
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 04:44 PM
2560528, He did a whole lotta this last night vs Arg.
Posted by thebadnegro, Thu Aug-18-16 01:02 PM
call it how i see it nigga
2560308, MAN THAT DURANT GUY REALLY SUCKS
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 05:27 PM
2560309, Probably the best scoring forward ever.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 05:33 PM

Which is why it was weird how badly dude played vs. Australia
(their first game vs. a good team).

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2560310, i really can't wait to watch his next half-decade.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 05:35 PM
dude's about to solidify his spot on the short short shortlist.
2560316, so, he had an off game and became a beta and melo's squire?
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:45 PM

this clown shit, O. what's the cause of melo's consecutive shitty games since his meaningless 31 last week?
2560326, Durant BETTA carry Carmelo to the gold.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 06:15 PM

Because that what the greatest scoring forward
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2560431, You talkin about the old Kevin Durant. He' gone.
Posted by thebadnegro, Thu Aug-18-16 02:16 AM
this dude, this is the one who lives and dies with his jumper.
2560315, niggas tryna flip it now...it's hilarious
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:43 PM
2560317, lulz. you know how that go tho.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 05:48 PM
niggas ALWAYS take it too far. i just be in the cut, birdman hand-rubbing, while i wait for the inevitable walk-back.
2560327, Durant been the 2nd best player on earth for half a decade.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 06:16 PM

He BETTA carry these bums to the gold


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2560331, and Melo been a fake Superstar since forever
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 06:19 PM

So why the fuck was you suggesting his ass, OF ALL PEOPLE, was gon have to do some heavy lifting for this team?

you caught either way, champ. YOU did this.

for 31 in group play?

you ought be shamed.
2560342, You called Durant a "loser" and a "choker." So you're done.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 06:29 PM

You're done, brotha.

Sit this one out.

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2560366, i know you mad when you startt telling me what I said
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 07:51 PM
"Choker" vs. "choke" or "choked"...this is prolly like the 5th or 6th time you've strategically purposely offered a direct MISQUOTE of me when we're going at it. You know how mad you gotta be to keep doing that? To pull that shit over and over? I would guess really mad. Choker is a series. Choke/choked is an episode. Bron has choked. Hell, Isiah choked. Neither is a "choker."

And the "loser" shit was bout Melo.

You mad as fuck.
2560411, Nigga...you got caught. That's what it is. You fucked up.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:25 PM

Don't explain that shit.

You fucked up.

Now eat it.
2560430, He'll have hot shooting games until he's 50.
Posted by thebadnegro, Thu Aug-18-16 02:12 AM
it's the other aspects of his game that suck.. compared to what they used to be. his d was always suspect, but he also seems to be making more shitty decisions than ever, with the ball and on d.

a good finisher, but not elite any more.
used to be an elite slasher/driver. now would rather settle for a 1 or 2 dribble turn around fade, or cross somebody up and finish with a 13 ft fade away off 1 foot.

used to be one of the biggest threats ever in the open court. now... shaky.

idk if its his feet or his ankles or his knees, but he aint right.
2560454, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted by dula dibiasi, Thu Aug-18-16 08:30 AM
i mean... i guess, breh. lulz.

any and all KD stock that you're sick of holding onto, i'd certainly be more than happy to scoop up for the low low. i'll have my guy call your guy.
2560540, Whatever shares I had were dumped when he signed with GS.
Posted by thebadnegro, Thu Aug-18-16 01:51 PM
the ultimate competitors hoe move.

on top of that, he's gonna fuck up the chemistry on that team. they will regress and i don't believe they'll make it to the finals.

Harrison better ...for GS.
2560312, When it came time to ball, KD showing up. All this for 31 on day 5?
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:40 PM
y'all are some fuckin clowns, man. we went through all this shit, because y'all tried to redeem a WASHED NIGGA off the strength of the fuckin olympics.

this is a new low. and i'm using it against y'all all season.

2560338, K MOTIVATED HIM! NOPE! TAKING CREDIT!
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Aug-17-16 06:26 PM
So many articles tried to dump it on K if they lose. So if they win, K gets credit. The media set the precedent. Now I'm gonna follow through. If they lose, they're blaming him. If they win, I'm crediting him.
2560339, i haven't even touched that yet. i'll get to it.
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 06:27 PM
2560318, this ninja Klay hit the side of the backboard, lmao
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-17-16 05:50 PM
2560319, https://vine.co/v/5M7wiI9iaiU
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 05:50 PM
https://vine.co/v/5M7wiI9iaiU
2560320, He a beta tho...cause a washed ringless nigga hit 31 in group play
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:54 PM
2560328, nigga YOU started the beta shit saying Russ the real leader/OKC didn't
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 06:17 PM
respect KD. FOH with this faux indignation revisionist shit.
2560329, saying russ was the better leader for OKC ain't mean KD a BETA
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 06:18 PM

and he damn sure ain't someone who needed to be carried by NEVER CARRIED NOBODY TO ANYTHING EVER ass Melo.
2560355, saying KD not a leader who teammates don't respect & is weak for leaving
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 07:18 PM
to go to the team that beat him DOES means he a beta.

and kyrie a sidekick who needed to be carried to even make the playoffs.
2560403, nope. betas don't perform like KD consistently has in big games
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 09:40 PM
2560417, Big enough for you to say he "choked!?!?" You stinky nigga
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:48 PM

You've become a stinky lip ass nigga

Peee-YOU
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2560541, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0xDGXotGIE
Posted by thebadnegro, Thu Aug-18-16 02:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0xDGXotGIE


2560666, you said what you said.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Aug-19-16 11:09 AM
2560357, actually, Beta is mine
Posted by bshelly, Wed Aug-17-16 07:25 PM
Ba knows he choked not coming up with that term, but I'm the first to bless the boards with that.

You're welcome.
2560363, the term is yours, the sentiment is basa's
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 07:46 PM
it was mostly a product of his russy agenda, but it's on the record so it count.
2560330, Niggas mad Durant went to Golden State, Ba
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 06:19 PM

That's what the "Beta" stuff is about

You know that, because you said the same thing

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560332, nope...y'all suggested KD wasn't gon show for THESE GAMES
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 06:20 PM

you were wrong. period.
2560341, Just upped posts where you fried KD as "loser" and a "choker."
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 06:28 PM

I just had to check my CPU.

So you an opportunist liar.

Carry on.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560348, oh, i answered them....you broke your word for 31 in group play
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 06:37 PM

i'll be the liar tho.
2560414, Dog...you an old nigga. Figure out how to just eat shit and move on.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:30 PM


This aint 2005, nigga

You old

You gotta figure out that sometimes you gotta just eat
it

You fucked up


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560435, i'm old enough not to get cysed over 31 in group play
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 05:54 AM

you are, too. but, you did what you did.
2560440, You so old, you forgot you JUST said KD "choked" and was a "loser"
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 06:33 AM

And you shit on his defense! LMAO!

STOP!

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560456, you've corrected your "choker" lie...now, let's deal with "loser"
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 08:36 AM

my response to cen was about carmelo. i ain't say that nigga by name because i was honoring our truce. that's what's so unfortunate about this. i was tryna keep 'tegrity of our truce by NOT shittin on melo. and you taking my good faith restraint to pretend i was going at KD. you can't find "loser" from me no where else in that thread except in my exchange with cenario.

and you so fucking DESPERATE, you willing to ignore context in that exchange and stick with the idea i'm going at Durant when that wouldn't even make sense, as Cen and I were talking about players LEAVING for a situation that improves chances for a ring. Cen asked "What does that have to do with bron Making it about rings?" and I responded with a shot at a guy who DIDN'T LEAVE for a better shot at a ring. Melo turned that the bulls and became a BIGGER LOSER than he ever was. So, yes, it's about rings for everybody, except LOSERS.

O, you have made a fool of yourself over dumb shit...yet again. you digging up old threads for ammo and taking wile e. coyote ass Ls. it's stupid.

bye
2560480, "Unprecedented bitch move.....Golden State got worse on defense"
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 10:02 AM

http://i.stack.imgur.com/TYsB4.jpg


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560482, now, those...i stand by them. those are my words.
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 10:13 AM
2560360, Never said nothing about these games. My pearls a clutched
Posted by bshelly, Wed Aug-17-16 07:30 PM
2560324, If there is one player in the world that doesn't feel despair when crossed
Posted by RandomFact, Wed Aug-17-16 06:04 PM
it's Noc.

bless his heart.
2560321, george and butler's defense completely turned this game around.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 05:54 PM
2560352, It's not that complicated PG is MUCH better than Melo nm
Posted by FILF, Wed Aug-17-16 07:01 PM
2560364, you said PG was MUCH better than Kawhi nm
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Aug-17-16 07:50 PM
2560426, **Checks calendar to see if it's 2013**
Posted by FILF, Thu Aug-18-16 01:16 AM
2560479, **Checks 2013 stats** WS/48: Kawhi .166, NyQuil .145
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Thu Aug-18-16 09:54 AM
2560548, *Checks 2013 postseason WS/48*: Melo: .114, Shump: .143
Posted by FILF, Thu Aug-18-16 02:31 PM
2560662, *Checks 2011 playoffs WS/48*: Dirk .210, Tyson .188, JET .179, Kidd .121
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Aug-19-16 10:57 AM
2560675, So, Dirk was carrying guys with BETTER WS/48 than MVP Melo, GOT IT!
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 12:36 PM
2560726, And Bron was carrying guys with BETTER WS/48 than Dirk, ICH HABE ES!
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Aug-19-16 04:35 PM
2560732, That sure happened in the Finals when JET was outscoring him
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 05:30 PM
2560322, Melo 3-10...doing what he does when pressure is on
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 05:55 PM
2560323, Coach K trash
Posted by ternary_star, Wed Aug-17-16 05:59 PM
Hot, stinky, mid-July in NY, sanitation workers on strike, TRASH.

the players been rightfully shit on for sleepwalking through these games, but Coach K been on that Zzzquil for awhile.

your team getting eaten up with basic-ass Boys Club back door cuts.

- they'll figure it out.

your starting lineup has no energy, doesn't give a fuck on D, and chucks bad 3s.

- let's stick with it.

Draymond's tailor-made for international play - he can cover any position on the court and gives full effort on D.

- let's give him 3 minutes.

Barnes could at least give you a few minutes of good perimeter D.

- who?


at the very least, Pop wouldn't put up with these sorry ass guards slicing up the interior defense. shit is embarrassing. every time these fools get up by 15 they start clowning like the game's over. they gonna have a hard time with these ex-Russian mafia teams.
2560325, https://twitter.com/djacoby/status/766049329740079104
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 06:09 PM
https://twitter.com/djacoby/status/766049329740079104
2560343, man, manu got a nigga over here dusty-eyed. salute to that man.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Aug-17-16 06:31 PM
2560354, Spanish Armada is primed to pull off an upset
Posted by FILF, Wed Aug-17-16 07:16 PM
Rubio needs to hit a couple of shots to stay on the floor since he's their best perimeter defender & will come in handy against Kyrie.

Team USA plays ISO ball so Pau can camp in the paint & protect the rim.

The X-Factor is Rudy since dude is feast or famine.
2560358, can either of our points play D?
Posted by ternary_star, Wed Aug-17-16 07:25 PM
pass-first, defensive-minded points should be required on all US teams moving forward. it's basically 50% of what you need to win internationally.

Spain bout to give these boy everything they can handle.
2560424, Who was available that fits that profile?
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Aug-18-16 01:05 AM
CP3 and Russy dropped out of the running. John Wall had knee surgery. Eric Bledsoe was hurt. Wasn't Mike Conley dealing with his Achilles? I mean, it's not like there were a ton of pass-first/intense-defender PGs available.
2560723, patrick beverly but he's pass only intense defender.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Aug-19-16 04:15 PM
2560427, Lowry is supposed to be a plus defender
Posted by FILF, Thu Aug-18-16 01:18 AM
>pass-first, defensive-minded points should be required on all
>US teams moving forward. it's basically 50% of what you need
>to win internationally.
>
>Spain bout to give these boy everything they can handle.
2560361, If KD outscores Melo by >55 over the rest of the tournament...
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Aug-17-16 07:36 PM
He will be your all time Team USA scoring leader
2560404, melo is an ol' dan fouts nigga...his records ain't shit for real
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Aug-17-16 09:42 PM
2560418, KD BET(T)A carry the team to the GOLD.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Aug-17-16 10:49 PM



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560434, and melo BE(NO RING HAVING ASS ALEX ENGLISH CLONE)TTA clap
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 05:52 AM
2560441, KD "choked" and "loser" ass BE(T)A get 'Melo 4 Gold Medals
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 06:34 AM



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560444, this will be his third gold medal. remember? He has a BRONZE.
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 07:36 AM

you mad as fuck. i had no idea them consecutive losing years was fuckin you up like this. what's crazy is i wasn't even saying shit.

them niggas ain't win 20 games, dogg and i let that shit ride. because i was over this.

missed the playoffs AGAIN...i ain't say shit for real. i was mostly going at Goof Troop.
2560447, Lebron got a Bronze too. Oh, but "KD choked and is a loser."
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 08:07 AM

There's no going back now

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560448, you can't even add up medals tho, O. that's who mad you are.
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 08:10 AM
2560457, U so mad, u can't remember that you abandoned Durant, Ba
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 08:38 AM

You gonna "party" on the Knicks, no one cares

Wasting keystrokes for nothing

Sad

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560463, i ain't waste keystrokes for group play cyses tho
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 08:49 AM

if you would kept that shit to him becoming the leading scorer or whatever, i coulda saved thousands of keystrokes.

but niggas (one of whom just hit an iconic shot to win a chip at the HIGHEST level of the sport) had to be SCARED of the fuckin OLYMPICS for you to prop up a guy who just has no record to warrant that level of cysage.

YOU did this.
2560481, http://i.stack.imgur.com/TYsB4.jpg
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 10:02 AM
http://i.stack.imgur.com/TYsB4.jpg

That's where you put Durant

You can't go back, nigga

Sorry


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2560485, like i was ever in here on KD nuts...lol. find those threads...LOL
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Aug-18-16 10:16 AM

i cysed him here and there, but i was on russy nuts. i been on ky's nuts. bout to be on bari's nuts real hard.

i ain't never ride for KD like that, dogg. but to say he was SCARED of these olympics knowing he just beasted in 2012 was NUTS.
2560600, He in the bushes...you can't be friends just to fry Melo, brutha
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-16 08:45 PM

That ain't how it works

You can't pick up niggas you DISOWNED, not in that
fashion

You on Ky?

FINE.

But you can't use a nigga you just cooked to fry 'Melo

Sorry.

And then you trying to rewire that bullshit to say it's
all about Kyrie? LMAO! Nigga, this ain't 2006. We skilled
at these internet arguments
2560648, saying he not SCARED isn't picking up, O
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Aug-19-16 09:54 AM

you mad, dogg.
2560689, Pau is gimpy, not sure how Spain is going to pull this off
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 01:29 PM
2560695, i thought there were rules about jersey numbers for olympic ball?
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Aug-19-16 02:02 PM
everyone had to be numbered 4-15, but Spain's numbers are all random.
2560739, Ahhhh, FIBA changed the rules in 2014
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Aug-19-16 06:39 PM
but some teams have kept it going.
2560698, This ref slingin techs like a mutha. lol
Posted by Beezo, Fri Aug-19-16 02:07 PM
2560699, FIBA refs suck (c) Timmay
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 02:13 PM
2560700, Kaptain Klay keeping Spain at bay
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 02:15 PM
2560701, Cormolo is so washed and Durant has 3 fouls
Posted by okayplayery, Fri Aug-19-16 02:17 PM
2560707, young, he SO washed. he looks gassed
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Aug-19-16 02:41 PM
2560710, Molo up to his old tricks against Spain
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 03:03 PM
2560711, Carm 2-11
Posted by Deebot, Fri Aug-19-16 03:06 PM
2560713, Spain w/ Marc/Ibaka would have won this game
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 03:08 PM
2560714, They went for broke off 31 in group play...day 5
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Aug-19-16 03:08 PM
2560715, Carmela gonna need 40 in gold medal game to atone
Posted by Deebot, Fri Aug-19-16 03:10 PM
.
2560716, he due, man. he's be outright bad since that 31
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Aug-19-16 03:11 PM
2560717, He's probably praying they play the Boomers b/c of the Baynes matchup
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 03:16 PM
2560738, Lol
Posted by thebadnegro, Fri Aug-19-16 06:37 PM
2560718, Melo and Durant playing horrible
Posted by SeV, Fri Aug-19-16 03:19 PM
Why is Durant so aloof whenever he ain't going 1 on 1 on offense?

Stupid careless passes

Suspect handles

Dumb defensive mistakes

WCF series still haunting him

I don't kno what's with Melo

Dude already looks tired




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Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
2560719, Durant/Curry careless turnovers are going to be a sight to behold
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 03:38 PM
>Why is Durant so aloof whenever he ain't going 1 on 1 on
>offense?
>
>Stupid careless passes
>
>Suspect handles
>
>Dumb defensive mistakes
>
>WCF series still haunting him
>
>I don't kno what's with Melo
>
>Dude already looks tired
>
>
>
>
>____________
>
>Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
2560740, Looks like it's going to be Serbia: Markovic gonna clamp down on Klay
Posted by FILF, Fri Aug-19-16 06:48 PM
2560850, Respect his hustle but Kyle Lowry fucking sucks.
Posted by thebadnegro, Sun Aug-21-16 02:22 PM
i never liked his game, but i do respect what he's done with his talent level.

KD still livin and dyin by his jumper, but i'm glad he's livin right now.

same with Melo it seems, and he's been dead for the last .. shit idk how many games. his defense is fuckin Kyrie-esque. shot selection has been horrible. he been stinkin it the fuck up. glad coach K is sittin his ass.

every time they pass inside to Cousins good things happen.. still he's only touched it twice on the block.

PG explosiveness looks like its gone, but he still b
2560852, Ole!!! (c)Kyrie
Posted by thebadnegro, Sun Aug-21-16 02:26 PM
2560853, Beta ballin
Posted by Deebot, Sun Aug-21-16 02:29 PM
2560974, They were up 10 when he got goin
Posted by bshelly, Sun Aug-21-16 09:37 PM
2560857, Niggas finally decided to share the ball.
Posted by thebadnegro, Sun Aug-21-16 02:33 PM
Doug Collins making too much sense. these guys (almost) never need to take a contested shot.

that's been the most disturbing thing about this team to me- piss poor shot selection.

feels good not to have to be embarrassed for USA bball.
2560861, Melo pulling another 2015 Finals Klay...
Posted by FILF, Sun Aug-21-16 02:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH05XK7UsAEGekZ.jpg:large
2560868, Lol
Posted by Deebot, Sun Aug-21-16 02:54 PM
2560918, Man if these house niggas don't get they hands off their hearts...
Posted by thebadnegro, Sun Aug-21-16 04:32 PM
we aint gon never get shit done here. the talented tenth are still in love with their masters. i expect better leadership from Melo.

i know some of yall mad i said it.
2561013, Durant and Melo's leadership carry Kyrie to Gold
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-22-16 07:03 AM

Durant and the FIBA Legend carry Kyrie to Gold


Ohhhhh niggas is mad

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "