The Predictions thread is at 250 so I thought it would be a good time to start a new thread for the actual happenings and hiccups of the 2016 free agent chase.

So far, we have rumors of:

Noah to the Knicks
Whitehead to the Mavs for the max

Chandler Parsons wants the max, likely out of Dallas

Durant is 90% on going back to the Thunder.

And a whole lot of players are looking to get paid so much that the owners will lock everyone out during the next CBA negotiations. And GMs and owners seem obliged to pay that kind of cash despite themselves.

>The Predictions thread is at 250 so I thought it would be a
>good time to start a new thread for the actual happenings and
>hiccups of the 2016 free agent chase.
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>So far, we have rumors of:
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>Noah to the Knicks
>Whitehead to the Mavs for the max
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>Chandler Parsons wants the max, likely out of Dallas
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>Durant is 90% on going back to the Thunder.
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>And a whole lot of players are looking to get paid so much
>that the owners will lock everyone out during the next CBA
>negotiations. And GMs and owners seem obliged to pay that kind
>of cash despite themselves.

Parsons seemingly is what he is at this point. Nice player, but he's been the same guy since his 2nd year so he's not going to be more than he's shown. Maybe even slightly regressed. I wouldn't be shocked if he falls off and really settles in as a role player fairly early too, not sure that body will hold up for more than that.

He's kind of a better Harrison Barnes (and not just because they both has Waspy names) but not a guy you should ever be paying the max to.

He'd be a great fit for the Blazers, just not at the max that prevents them from signing a legit big man, which is a much bigger need IMO.

I could see him landing on the Grizzlies. A perfect guy to keep them in the playoffs without seriously contending for anything.

but mostly agreed especially with all his injuries.

Hes able to take advantage of his media/social media savvy-ness x whiteness

Dallas fans hate him and cant wait to see him leave though--completely different from when he left Houston.

Even though Dallas didnt land deandre, he has also been a big part of teams recruiting efforts

after the past 2-3 seasons we got spoiled.


Woj said the NBA cracked down and called agents and teams today because theres technically NO contact allowed til after 12:01.

So if you set up a meeting already then you musta made contact and broke rules right? Im hoping thats the only reason weve only really heard about Whiteside - Mavs and Noah- Knicks at this point

Under 4 PPG and under 40% shooting for a guy who takes all his shots pretty close to the hoop?

The Knicks or anyone else better be really confident that was all injury related and that the injuries are all healed up if they're going to sink a good amount of money into him.

https://twitter.com/SynergySST/status/749006987929661440

Let the kids cook.

I'm bummed about Whiteside but he might turn out to be the new Bynum.

I think that could lead to a move for someone like Boogie.

The problem with letting the kids cook and signing random guys like Evan Turner is that next year theres even less of a chance at the draft pick.

Can the Lakers franchise sit through 2 more years of suckitude without trading for a star?

You dont do it now --what if some of your young potential busts and has even less trade value?

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https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748729966922113024

and also provides good length defensively.

Always funny how quickly people forget about skill-sets.

this is a terrible signing... has this had a double digit anything in his career? when's the last time he cracked 30 minutes a game? this is our marquee acquisition?

As I said, he's a high post passer who can space and give length, sets great screens. That's the type of 5 which fits our new system and we got him for 16 per which is about 10.4 under the old cap. That's an incredible deal in a sparse market for centers.

Would love a guy like Batum but he is likely going to get near max, but also think the versatility of Bazemore or Marvin Williams could prove very useful. Doesn't look like Whiteside is coming so we are going to need to focus on a different 5 as well, possibly Mozgov who would fit right into the starting 5, high post + 15 foot spacer role.

The fact is with a 17 win team, you have to build momentum and show concrete wins in order to eventually win over the big fish.

But really tho, some sturdy PG's who can carry us to the next draft like a Lin or bol from Miami & and I'm happy

I want some of what phil smokes.

bazemore wants 19-20mil?

Mozgov a centerpience?

I'm going to bed. LOL
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lol

I said it in the Noah post, it's a good annual salary but I wouldn't give more than 2 years. So much wear on his body and we've seen it come to fruition already.

Edit: Fake account (https://twitter.com/NBASteinLine/status/748729274534727681)

GMs with cap space are like teenage girls with a new credit card at the mall.

I love Mozgov's and like Noah's annual rates under the new cap but the years are what would scare me regarding Noah.

By Offensive Real-Plus Minus, Lakers upgrade from Roy Hibbert (76th out of 76 centers) to Timofey Mozgov (75th)...

https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/748751089449611266

Always surprises me at how lacking people are when it comes to understanding fit and context of player values, let alone how that interaction plays into financial valuations. The only national reporter who seems to actually get it is Ken Berger.

You make some very compelling arguments but I think this one is gonna be bad. He's coming off injury/surgery/and rehab that reportedly didn't go well.

Two years I could live with. I'm ok overpaying a solid veteran on a short term deal but 4 years, even with a team in the 4th, is a very long time.

He was rushed back last season which means he didn't have the musculature reinforcement, that won't be the case after this year. I think his skill-set fits exactly what Luke wants from the starting 5.

Windhorst said it earlier in the year "a team may offer him a 3 year deal which will end up being a discounted deal once he recovers". I think that will be proven to be true.

I'm good with this if he's healthy.

i like mozgov at $5M a year or even $8M, not this kind of money.

>i like mozgov at $5M a year or even $8M, not this kind of
>money.

I mean it sounds crazy to me too, but that's the world we live in now.

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obviously just with the cap jump he was in line to go from like 5 to 7.5 if he didn't get any raise. let's push it to say $11M even. $16M? some upgrade, yeah, hibbert was 76th in PER and he was 75th. i know it's more of a push than that, but wow.

4th year a team option.

It's an overpay, but not an atrocious one when you consider the market and that Whiteside, Biyombo, and Horford weren't even considering us.

i cant see him doing much more than 12/8/3/2, ok numbers but a signal that this rebuild is going to take a long time.

they lose their draft pick if it isn't top 3 and next year's draft is loaded...especially at the top.

Mozgov won't drastically improve them but once they do start making traction, he's a decent piece and will be replaceable when/if they hit the mark and start to make strides.

A top 3 pick is a total crapshoot. Even with the worst record in the league, it's still only like a 65/35 chance to stay in the top 3. We've gotten lucky 2 years in a row to keep the pick. Without knowing much about the draft depth next year, I think it's time to develop the young talent we have and win as much as possible.

If we keep the pick - great, but I'm counting on it being gone. And this year is the last first rounder we'll have for awhile. And that's ok. For now. We have some solid pieces.

Peter Vescey, ladies and gentlemen

No word on money yet.

28 per for Demar.

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https://twitter.com/Manny_Navarro/status/748844197302505472/photo/1

That was a poorly put together announcement lol

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/hassan-whiteside-2016-free-agency-miami-heat-basketball/

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I mainly curious because if Durant is officially and mathematically off the table, that means Wade will have more leverage in terms of what he can ask for.

Cuban must be pissed. Though they probably just used their deandre deck last season

If Whiteside announced his signing this morning, it seems he only had time to meet Riley and the Heat after the midnight cap was lifted.

Seems like Dwight Howard is the logical move for the $24 mil I saw on an ESPN crawl that he's asking for.

Has to stink for Dirk this is what he took his massive pay cuts for.

Massive upgrade at the backup PG spot

Add Al Horford (which they cleared room for by trading Jodie Meeks for a 2nd rounder) and this is an A+ offseason with immediate contention.

There are things blake can do that ish cant and vice versa

He cant stay in front of anyone and hes a turnover machine all the sudden

he is OK but hopefully they have a bigger addition cooking

not great values but they weren't getting better players anywhere or cheaper players who were close to as good for any cheaper. so you gotta sign them.

Andre Drummond and the Detroit Pistons are nearing agreement on a five-year maximum contract in the $130 million range, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN.com that Drummond and the Pistons have quickly moved to the final stages of negotiations on a verbal agreement since free agency began Friday at 12:01 a.m. ET.

The deal can't be officially signed until a leaguewide moratorium on signings and trades is lifted July 7, but sources said any outstanding minor details would be wrapped up later Friday.

After the sides mutually agreed not to do a contract extension last October, making Drummond a restricted free agent this summer, ‎Detroit's No. 1 offseason priority was always securing Drummond's future as quickly as possible.

The Pistons can announce an agreement in the early days of the period, but will wait for an official signing to allow the Pistons to use up their cap space. They hold Drummond's Bird Rights, which allows teams to go over the cap to retain their own free agents.‎

but then again i didnt follow the story closely.

great deal, obviously, he is a stud

Actually signing the deal will be our very last move

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the other teams Noah and his agent used as leverage to get that reported contract offer from the Knicks. Two or three years I can somewhat understand, but four years for this guy is insane. Going to be hard to trade him if things don't work out for him in a Knicks uniform. Also interesting if Rose doesn't stay in NYC how Noah will react and play as result.

Just as importantly, this contract means the Knicks will have to go bargain basement shopping for shooting guards. Sounds like another Aaron Afallo type signing will occur.

feel wanted his guy and is giving him what it takes to get a commitment. I don't like the length either.

Noah is a professional though and knows the deal. He'll be fine if Rose is gone. He's used to not playing with him anyway.

seemed high, but he did some things defensively. Relatively healthy and he's a big.

THIS! I don't get. Not the money. But the years? He's cooked. Done.


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wtf man, i'd rather a 3 and d like courtney lee than a score and get injured like eric gordon.

We're only gonna have 3 healthy starters a night.

Why don't other teams view it as a sign when the team has no interest in resigning their own player smh.

I think Lee is the way to go, but Gordon is a very talented shooter, just can't stay on the court. End of day I still think it's Lee. I'll take the hit if I'm wrong

Delly can hit 10 mill per easily if Timofey can get 65 over four. Who else is looking forward to the trade deadline in later years with these bloated contracts?

Thats alot of money for a guy who only plays 60 games a year on avg.

>RE: I hope he isnt the new version of Juwan Howard...

>Thats alot of money for a guy who only plays 60 games a year
>on avg.

Juwan didn't have that issue during his prime. Injury issues didn't start until he got to Houston which is also when his career started declining.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howarju01.html

early word is 3 for $36

https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/748879457411174400
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/748880208229314561

The nets roster is hopeless. No draft picks in coming years

Who else are they gonna sign? Ryan anderson?

Fuck at least I get to go watch him for cheap.

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>Fuck at least I get to go watch him for cheap.

He'll put up some nice numbers in BK.

Congrats Shawn.

Including the lakers team.

I think.


Reunite with parsons and Ryan Anderson
Non-black starting lineup squad

wait til the end of fagency and hit up a decent role player to get to that floor....wind up with a 20 million 1 year deal lolol

he should def be tryna hook up with BK or Hou.

http://imgur.com/Ha514b7

if he wants big money he has to go to a shitty team or somewhere on a short term again. if he wants to win i bet some teams would take him at a reduced rate. he still has a fair amount to offer but you don't want to lean too heavily on him

if conley goes to dallas that opens up a spot for him in memphis.

He wanted a team that wanted and will keep him. And obviously he loved his time in ny.

Good news is that it'll be easy for him to get traded if/when things don't work out in that horror show in Brooklyn. I just made the mistake of looking at the roster just now. Brook Lopez looks like an elder statesmen next to the guys I saw just now. Kenny Atkinson is a very very patient man to want to take that job.

Or desperate.

Tickets must be dirt cheap given that roster.

The easiest fix is if they can get someone to take brooks contract for some young exciting guys on rookie deals that haven't fully blossomed yet.


That roster is even worse with no Thad young. I really wonder how they will fill in the blanks

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Would've loved him to stay in Charlotte but they didn't really prioritize him.

Batum shoulda definitely been the main focus, but prioritizing al and Marvin over him considering the direction of the team was a bit of a head scratcher.

On the flipside they can go after a cheaper guard like lil curry now

Who was a coach in NY when Linsanity happened.

I kind of get it. Go to a coach who believes in him, get to start for the rest of his prime and pray that they somehow improve in the next year or two. I mean, is backing up Kemba for a team that isn't really going to contend really that much better than starting and getting a better shot at endorsements in BK?

that don't necessarily coincide with a fans lol

It was clear that he wanted stability, a starting spot, and the ability to develop for an org that believes him. Money and winning weren't at the top.

Throw in coming back to NY and its a nobrainer imo

>that don't necessarily coincide with a fans lol
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>It was clear that he wanted stability, a starting spot, and
>the ability to develop for an org that believes him. Money and
>winning weren't at the top.
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>Throw in coming back to NY and its a nobrainer imo


But this shows otherwise. I wonder if they talked about the team and system at all. Clifford did a lot of that to sell him on Charlotte. I mean everyone thought Charlotte would suck, once I caught a glimpse in preseason , I called theyd be fighting for playoffs. But i dont know if signing there showed winning was a priority unless he was reading teh future.


He clearly values all those things above $$ thouugh. He probably couldve gotten at least 15 mil

> He probably couldve gotten at least 15 mil

Once kenny was in bk i figured it was a done deal. The last few days lin been talking about all the cities he played in his career and he's tired of moving boxes lol. Its not something we think about as fans but it definitely is understandable.

>Who was a coach in NY when Linsanity happened.
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>I kind of get it. Go to a coach who believes in him, get to
>start for the rest of his prime and pray that they somehow
>improve in the next year or two. I mean, is backing up Kemba
>for a team that isn't really going to contend really that much
>better than starting and getting a better shot at endorsements
>in BK?

Probably his closest relationship. Atkinson was working with him before Linsanity started cause he would rebound and work on his jumpshot with him. That obviously continued as the season progressed.

Atkinson is great at player development but I dont know how hell be as a head coach. The Nets roster has nobody to develop.

Chris Broussard on Twitter: "Before deciding on Nets, Lin also met with the Pelicans early this morning in Cali, source says" (twitter.com)



You had a chance to run PnRs with AD?
Even off the bench...
Jrue is always hurt anyways.


::Jordan meme::

it was obvious he should opt out but goooooood lawd thassalawtamunney (c) chris rock. second stint in his last three where he's asked to captain a sinking ship. i am sure good teams wanted him as a backup but no way can you turn down that kinda cash. also i am thrilled philly wasnt the team to give it to him. this and to a lesser extent mozgov seem like holding pattern signings. no team with serious ambition would make them.

>it was obvious he should opt out but goooooood lawd
>thassalawtamunney (c) chris rock. second stint in his last
>three where he's asked to captain a sinking ship. i am sure
>good teams wanted him as a backup but no way can you turn down
>that kinda cash. also i am thrilled philly wasnt the team to
>give it to him. this and to a lesser extent mozgov seem like
>holding pattern signings. no team with serious ambition would
>make them.

It's at least four times what he made in Charlotte.

theres a lot of chatter out there but most it revolves how hes underpaid once again and shouldve gotten more. Lot of it around firing his agent lol.


He settled on the 12 million for the sure starting job and maybe to give the nets more cap room to play with. They have 40 million bucks to throw around

>Lot of it around firing his agent lol.

I think people forget that the agents work for the players interest. If it was just up to the agent, they'd def get the highest deal available. But that ain't what the player necessary wants.

Lin never struck me as a money chaser even after he signed with the deal with houston. He expected the knicks to match as did everybody.

but if he signed this deal for a chance to start for sure and he could have done better, does that mean someone was going to pay him more as a potential 1B/#2 point guard? that doesnt sound right. i dunno, i would not give him the keys to the whip, personally. think he is great in an expanded backup role but that's about it.

and dubs are floating that they will match any offer barnes(barring a kd signing obvi)

It's almost like they're trolling Boogie at this point.

>It's almost like they're trolling Boogie at this point.

It's been 6 seasons. Weren't you Bankhead bouncing on me with the rest of 'em when 20 year-old Ky Ky The Young Legend was supposed to take Casspi and DJ Kennedy and CJ Miles to the playoffs?

Showing anything resembling sympathy for that big man-baby is nothing more than a cornfimation of Duke-hate and/or Basa-hate.

smh...seriously man you should just enjoy the win instead of running around with hurt feelings.

If i really messed you up like that about Kyrie i gots no problem apologizing on or off the boards. I'll even send you a card and a edible arrangement.

Celebrating your win and stunting or reminding me of my L is one thing(I waaaant to see you do that) this is terrubly sad though.

i'm trolling ALL NEXT YEAR. you ain't seen the worst of it.

it feels like your feelings is hurt, honestly.

YOU CONDONED THIS, MY DUDE!!!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2013_depth.html

DON'T YOU TURN AWAY!!!! LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAID SHOULD BE A PLAYOFF TEAM!!!!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2012_depth.html

LOOK AT IT!!!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2014_depth.html

stuff tho.

but like i said in all our back and forths the last week or so, do you, have fun.

you were there. you laughed. you cosigned.

feel my wrath this Winter.

he's a talented, big losing ass crybaby.

Yes, he plays for a shitty franchise but he doesn't develop to make them better. He just pouts about how shitty the org is.

If he got better personally, he might have been traded already.

In in the frying pan now but if he goes to a better team and still doesn't win, we need to coffin his ass.

Dude maybe he can be fried for not developing certain key aspects of his own game but he has little or nothing to do with the overall fuckery there. His not being traded has nothing to do with his not being good enough, come the fuck on. It has to do with him not putting a gun to their head. He signed the extension and he hasn't said trade me or I'm not showing up. Either by creating a contract impasse or making a demand are the only two ways he could leave.

>It's almost like they're trolling Boogie at this point.

Going to be interesting when his free agency situation comes up. I have to think his next up coming deal will be the best time for him to get max top dollars since that'll be the time he'll hit his athletic prime no? Assuming he doesn't get injured before that time.

he stepped up his game in the playoffs. I wish him well.

is a star.

Every year.

I'm like still? They're still trying to make us believe this.

He's like Ryan Reynolds without the Deadpool.

Or Jason Derulo without the whatever the fuck Jason Derulo sings.

>He's like Ryan Reynolds without the Deadpool.

Not sure how he fits with the Thad/Myles/Teague/George/Monta style of team they're building.

smh

I'm not optimistic for the bulls.

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Only 10 mil for only three seasons?!

This proposed Noah move looks worse and worse and worse for my Knicks.

SMH. The leaguewide style of play is getting boring. I like balance.

Center market was deep aas hell, they jumped to grab noah unneccesarily smh.


>This proposed Noah move looks worse and worse and worse for my
>Knicks.

Keep getting them checks! (c) Jalen Rose
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Love what Indy is doing. They need to fill the bench with 3 and D guys now.

Won't give you much defensively but good piece to add for them off the bench

Dude spray farted in Feel's dinner. Early favorite for exec of the year.

He can play defense: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/9

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He can also finish in the paint over shot-blockers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyl5kvKuBG4

He's the type of guy the Spurs need to sign instead of bringing back washed up David West & playing him at center.

i'm not sure if he can do that awwl the time though.

Brook/Aldrich can't play together either.

>i'm not sure if he can do that awwl the time though.

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He shot the three pretty well last year. Always thought he was kind of an underachiever. Hopefully this gives him three years of high minutes and usage to get one more big contract somewhere else. Seems like a good bridge player and goddamn did we need some guards.

or 40 million realistically.

prob?

knicks don't need another scorer they need someone to guard the other team's best guard and hit open jumpers.

rather give him $40 million than Gordon

altho lil zeke did him dirty a few times sunday lol

http://cdn3.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/scale_crop_768_433/2011/06/lantern_primary_1.jpg

The Portland Trail Blazers and Memphis Grizzlies have emerged as the primary competitors for free-agent forward Chandler Parsons, sources told ESPN.

The Blazers offered Parsons a maximum contract worth $94.8 million over four years during a meeting in Los Angeles in the opening hours of free agency, sources said. The Grizzlies are also expected to make a max offer in a meeting with Parsons scheduled for Friday, sources told ESPN's Marc Stein.

There is "no chance" of Parsons re-signing with the Dallas Mavericks, a source said.

The divorce comes after the Mavs made it clear that they had no intention of offering a max contract to Parsons, whose two seasons in Dallas both ended prematurely because of surgeries on his right knee.

The Blazers, who are aggressively attempting to make a major addition via free agency for the first time since Brian Grant left Sacramento for Portland almost two decades ago, did not hesitate to meet Parsons' contractual demands.

Portland owner Paul Allen, general manager Neil Olshey, coach Terry Stotts and star point guard Damian Lillard attended the meeting. A source described Parsons as "really impressed" with Portland's presentation, which emphasized how he would fit with the core of a young team that advanced to the second round of the Western Conference playoffs last season.

Parsons has an advocate in Memphis in recently hired assistant coach J.B. Bickerstaff, who formed a close relationship with Parsons during their time together with the Houston Rockets. Sources say point guard Mike Conley also wants Parsons in Memphis if Conley re-signs with the Grizzlies.

The Grizzlies are the heavy favorites to keep Conley if their offer for a max contract includes the fifth year that only they can give him.

Mavs owner Mark Cuban attempted to talk Parsons, his partner in last summer's ultimately unsuccessful attempt to recruit center DeAndre Jordan to Dallas, into opting into the final season of the three-year, $46 million deal Parsons signed after spending his first three seasons with the Rockets. Sources say Parsons never seriously considered picking up the option, as he was confident that he'd receive a significant raise and long-term deal this summer because versatile, playmaking forwards are in high demand and short supply.

The Mavs responded by putting Parsons on the backburner to begin free agency, making Conley and Miami Heat center Hassan Whiteside their top targets. The Mavs met with Whiteside in New York in the opening hours of free agency and have a Friday afternoon meeting in Dallas scheduled with Conley, sources said.

The Mavs also had a meeting scheduled with Charlotte Hornets small forward Nicolas Batum on Friday, but he struck a deal hours into free agency to stay in Charlotte, according to a league source.

Cuban had consistently described Parsons as a foundation piece, but sources say Dallas decision-makers reached a consensus opinion that they weren't willing to take the risk of offering him a max deal.

Parsons averaged 14.8 points, 4.8 rebounds and 2.6 assists per game during his two-year tenure in Dallas but was only able to play in one playoff game because of his knee injuries.

Parsons, 27, had hybrid microfracture surgery on the knee in spring of 2015, and the rehab from that operation lasted well into the 2015-16 season. The arthroscopic operation Parsons underwent this spring to address a torn meniscus in the knee wasn't nearly as serious as the previous surgery.

Sources say multiple renowned orthopedic specialists have given Parsons clearance to resume full basketball activities and expressed optimism that his knee would not prevent him from having a long, productive NBA career.

Parsons averaged 13.7 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.8 assists in 61 games last season, statistics skewed by a slow start as he dealt with strict minutes restrictions. He had the best statistical stretch of his five-year career in the two months before his season ended, averaging 18.9 points, 5.9 rebounds and 3.2 assists per game while shooting 51.9 percent from the floor and 47.7 percent from 3-point range and proving he could thrive at power forward in addition to small forward.

The 6-foot-9 Parsons' rare blend of perimeter shooting accuracy and ability as a creator resulted in a list of suitors that also includes the Orlando Magic and Los Angeles Lakers.

I didn't

I guess . . .

for bad contracts since Chris Dudley.

The dollar amounts are just higher now.

But waht did we think would happen when owners had more room to play with?

That was a seven year, $33.6 million deal. We were all so young back then!

people thought that was tough. Now Dellavedova can make that.

Barnes himself is going to get a max so it's not a stretch.

Not a bad deal

They needed a shooter to go along w/ Middleton.

Now get Delly, trade MCW and Monroe for anything, and maybe see if Larry Sanders has stopped being crazy
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https://twitter.com/PascalGibBN/status/748957181253390336

Wonder what made him Choose Memphis over Portland

Feel like Portland was the better long term fit.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748958047704231937

>Wonder what made him Choose Memphis over Portland
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>Feel like Portland was the better long term fit.
>
>https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748958047704231937

They had talked about playing together.


I mean say what you want about Parsons game. Some of his value is inflated by the relationships he has around the league with players and executives.

portland should spend their money on size and rebounding. i would much rather aminu at his salary than parsons at the max, no contest. memphis has desperately needed a player like parsons should be for a while. i don't think he will wow them but i get the signing for sure.

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Free agent forward Evan Turner has reached agreement on a four-year, $75M deal with Portland, agent Kevin Bradbury tells @TheVertical.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748959451755851776

I feel like way more value just reupping Harkless at lower rate.

>I feel like way more value just reupping Harkless at lower
>rate.

They could still re-sign Harkless / Leonard & call it a day if they want to roll w/ Plumlee at center.

Turner isn't that good, doesn't really fill what they need, and that's a contract,they won't be able to move IMO. Might be my least favorite signing of the frenzy so far.

(c) mayer hawthorne.

i was worried the blazers would be pressed and spend their multitude of cap dollars on garbage. my concerns were valid. shit i would have rather they signed parsons lol.

Also I've got to think Pau goes home, right?

Blazers are probably going to end up being 2014-15 Bulls West

that they may not be as committed to spending more money on Crabbe.

>that they may not be as committed to spending more money on
>Crabbe.

Crabbe is too redundant w/ CJ & they needed a better defender which explains the Duck Sauce signing.

But I do feel like if they have cap to burn, they would be far more likely to use it on retaining Crabbe. Hence why I want them to get Pau lol.

>But I do feel like if they have cap to burn, they would be
>far more likely to use it on retaining Crabbe. Hence why I
>want them to get Pau lol.

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Good for him getting that NBA backup money.

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Most of the big names that could make a difference are basically staying in place and all the ones that are changing teams are barely making a dent in the W-L column. I know the Evan Turners and Timofey Mozgovs and Jerryd Bayless's of the world are relatively fairly priced at $14 million a year now but are they really that much of an upgrade over random dudes available at the trade deadline, random bounceback projects, random dudes still on rookie contracts that might break out???

Even if you can afford them under the cap that's still an opportunity cost since you're guaranteeing these guys a roster spot and a big role at that cost.

Sixers basically have to spend 50 mill or distribute it to the players on the roster just to reach the salary floor.

you can max out a scrub for 1 year to hit the salary floor..no need to lock yourself in long deals.

they're taking gambles on potential and trying to hit the floor too.

not a bad move if you know you're going to be #process-ing and struggling with the floor/f.a. for the next few years

rookie deal, but shit, KAT's gonna get paid for 60 games over the next 3 seasons.

no matter how much these teams pay mozgovs and parsonses, there's still only so much talent to go around, and there are still going to be teams striking out on most/all of their targets.

the only question is whether the teams that miss out on ALL the free agents this year are going to double down on the frenzy or if there's going to be enough sour grapes (especially if it turns into cle/g.s. + a team or two out west only having legitimate shots) for these front offices to want to shut down the summer out of spite.

them from giving out longterm dumb deals but it just means they give out shorter term dumb deals more often lolol.

from themselves.

Every time they make a change, they find a way to have it work against them.

great front offices don't get to look as good for as long, and the terrible ones get out from under old contracts in time to shuffle the deck when they rehire a new gm/coach every couple years.

it's not a real improvement, and it's not much comfort for the fan bases, but the flexibility probably feels good to the dan gilberts of the world.

They've taken, "OK, these mistakes won't hurt us as much. It'll help us financially."

and turned it into, "THESE MISTAKES WON'T HURT US THAT MUCH. THROW MORE MONEY AROUND! WOOHOO!"

When the bill comes due for the rooks and vets already on the roster, they're going to regret a lot of these signings.

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and ask cp3 to coach it

for some good entertainment.

Barring Durant unexpectedly changing teams, all these teams have their core set and no one they can realistically add really changes their future all that much. Either the Dubs can repeat what they did last year or it was just too unsustainable. Either the Spurs get old or they don't. Either the Thunder find that level they had to begin the WCF or they don't. Either the Clips stay healthy and get it together in the playoffs or they get blown up next offseason. Either Cleveland... well they're making the ECF bare minimum regardless and they're playing with house money so whatever.

I mean I'm happy for the Solomon Hills and Ish Smiths of the world getting super paid but who the fuck were they last year? You could have had those guys basically for free last year... if you're a contender you might as well see if you can pry a Shabazz Muhammad away for the right price or if some Richard Jefferson rejuvenation project is out there.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748952488846323712

Meanwhile Danny Green will be making 10 mill the next 3 years.

Not sure though

Should we start the AD FA/Trade clock yet?

worse cities to live in than new orleans with less talented tent-poles and similar histories of incompetence are signing free agents.

it's hard to find a 1B for a 1A that gets shut down every spring. and it's hard to attract second tier talents without the first tier.

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what a time to be alive

So many current stars must be calling their agents right now.

that right ankle already got them a huge discount the past 4 seasons.

These comparison tweets are for la k of a better word: dumb.

It's a different era with different rules. If Steph were a free agent right now, nobody would argue he'd get 30 per.

kobe was making 30 million at the same time falling apart. a'mare almost 25 with no knees. bosh 20 before they found out about the clots. joe 20 because of brooklynatlantaphoenix.

it's not just an era thing with him.

I'm pretty sure at the time there were people who hated on what he got

Who gives a shit?

Steph got that contract because his ankles mighta been cooked. And BECAUSE of it, they were able to get serious players that got them a chip and 2 finals appearances. Steph's gonna get the super max next year...but acting like these contracts are apples to apples is stupid.

Matthew dellavadova basketball player from Australia just signed with the bucks and you'll never believe how much he makes!?

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*ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS*

If the Dubs can give him $35 million, he'll get it. And deserve it.

Dirk took a massive paycut and now looks stupid because of it.

Wade took one, and then Lebron left. Wade's never been the highest paid player on the Heat.

Duncan took a paycut and it worked out great, but that's an anomaly.

If you're a player - and these contracts are being handed out like they are today - fuck GMs and owners. Get that money. I see no reason a player, even on the downside of their career, should take a paycut as the centerpiece of a team.

s.a. still needs some sort of revelation to happen with their guard play to get another title, and this shit could all disappear again in 2 years.

he could easily end up with the same results as wade and dirk, he just has more titles to look back on as he contemplates rolling the dice again. it might not even be a pay cut with timmay...we don't even know if he's going to be playing at even a 6 million dollar level come the middle of next season.

i think these player cuts are a lot like the gms throwing out these max deals. they know they got a limited window before they're fired (gms) or retire (players), the only difference is the players have a harder job because for them if you're eschewing money you're really looking at title or bust.

>s.a. still needs some sort of revelation to happen with their
>guard play to get another title, and this shit could all
>disappear again in 2 years.

Tony got a 3 year 45 mill extension as a backpay when it was obvious the wheel were about to fall off. Riley doesn't seem like he plays the loyalty card as much as Pop/RC & is trying to shakedown Wade.

Basically, Manu/Tony took pay cuts early in their career & Tim reciprocated at the latter end of his career.

How does he go back to that squad?

BTW Duncan has been taking paycuts and they have helped the Spurs immensely. Martin Brodeur took paycuts in a similar fashion and last I checked dude has three rings and wound up in the finals even at the very end of his career. Tom Brady falls into that category, too. Yeah, we're talking about three really dumb guys who didn't get anything out of it right there.

Dirk should have taken the Lakers' money as one last act of dicking them over a la Steve Nash. But I don't blame him for not doing it. He didn't want to get back pay for past success, he wanted to keep succeeding. It didn't work but the Mavs have been a lot more competitive than the team he would have gone to with their star milking every cent he could out of his hobbled twilight.

Dirk took a pay cut to lure FAs to give him the best shot at a title and guess what? DJ backed out, Parsons got injured then left, and no FAs of note really came. Why take a pay cut? Also, your team could trade you. Loyalty means jack shit so get what you are worth - which is whatever the most from the place you want to play is willing to pay you. I see no reason millionaires should make less so billionaires can make more.

Every aging star that has done it saw the money on a free agent

it's a players decision. players take less momey for different reasons. nothing stupid about that. what's stupid is getting kicked out of the league and losing $30M's

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so far today has been more disheartening than exciting. bums getting paid leaguewide.

http://i.imgur.com/zKfBuLo.gif

I fucks with Mike Conley and 27 mill per is great for him.

Now KD's 251.7 mill offer from OKC next year makes sense. Bron deserves 40 now. If Mike gets 27 all the perennial all-stars and leaders of their team demand 40 per. No shade at Mike.

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Is that a typo????????

Luckeyes indeed.

shit is a 99-cent store pickup. again he isn't "worth it" but memphis wasn't replacing him and certainly no cheaper.

>shit is a 99-cent store pickup. again he isn't "worth it" but
>memphis wasn't replacing him and certainly no cheaper.

Unless Minny is just dumping Rubio, there's not much for Wallace to work with on that roster.

>Unless Minny is just dumping Rubio, there's not much for
>Wallace to work with on that roster.

I guess a team like the Sixers could possible trade for Rubio & make a better offer but dude is on his way out.

Lance is a free agent now and he's also one of the last people I'd want to add to a young squad.

And the pick wouldn't be conveyed until 2121 at the earliest since Grizz already owe two picks to other teams.

So the Kings freak out and offer him the max.

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They have to renounce him then use their cap space.

Houston economy is leaning heavily on James Harden about now.

This is a who GAF signing to me. I'd have kept Horford.

>Houston economy is leaning heavily on James Harden about
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>This is a who GAF signing to me. I'd have kept Horford.

Horford got murdered by Tristan in back-to-back postseasons, Dwight could give 'em a fighting chance if he has a bounce back season.

And I'm not even a Tobias Harris fan.

The one year part makes it solid but Green's a fucking bum although maybe some small ball with him and Ibaka could be fun to watch. Still, dude makes Harrison Barnes look like an impact player.

Seriously... what is their plan???

>Seriously... what is their plan???

They don't want to tie up their cap space since they have to re-sign Ibaka next summer thus just rented Jeff Green for a season to help them make a playoff push.

The Clipper must have really not wanted him back cause with these deals today, 2/20 would have been pretty reasonable to bring him back... though I think if they let Jamal go too they miraculously get some room under the cap to chase someone else.

I'm sure they asked Jeff to wait but his agent figured that the Clips weren't beating 15 million for one year, especially in Florida with no state income tax.

>The Clipper must have really not wanted him back cause with
>these deals today, 2/20 would have been pretty reasonable to
>bring him back... though I think if they let Jamal go too they
>miraculously get some room under the cap to chase someone
>else.

he wants to get paid for all his paycuts


Bron and Cp3 probably egging him on

Wade is a lifer.

He's using the Knicks as leverage to stress Riley out into giving him those near max dollars.

Can't blame him though. I have to imagine he knows he's nearing the change to get top dollars plus he balled the fuck out given how much he's slowed down over the years.

out that he was "available"?

so I dunno if I can see LeBron willingly want to meddle in Wade's business like that. I don't have any evidence to argue on either side of the argument, so ultimately, I have no clue.

His agent should have thrown the Kings in there to make it seem legit.

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No, please......

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHVHvdShpty/

Posted four hours ago according to the timestamp.

Give him a damn two year deal, Phil.


Damn it.

Grizz can offer him the most since they can use Conley's Bird Right as a place holder to create an artificial cap space.

http://weartesters.com/peak-delly-1-unveiled/


Remind me of KDs

Not bad

someone is going to be angling at russell or curry and end throwing that money at teague. heaven help the league if rose or jrue has a good healthy season.

the upside is that a point guard is going to get screwed by someone smart next year too. would be funny if it was lowry again.

I like mike conley, I think h's one of the 5? best players at his position, he's earned everything he's got.

still.


WTF LOL LOL LOL LOL

2016 is some shit man

if you had said on draft night "one of these guys will get the largest contract in NBA history"

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He may not even be top 5 in the west

He's as good at his spot as Milsap is at his. Milsap wouldn't get that shit.

K.C. Johnson Retweeted
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New Orleans among the teams expressing interest in Rajon Rondo, league sources told @TheVertical. Rondo led the NBA in assists last season.

Good for him. I like his game a lot and was hoping he'd remain a Bull but oh well.

He provided solid consistent play in the time he had on the court.

-----Miami basically showed D. Wade the door by offering him $10 million per. No wonder he's really talking to other teams...They are saying that the Bulls and the Knicks right now have the edge....Don't know what to think about this one (Even if he had a good year this past season, he's damn near 35...). But I'm not mad at Wade for getting his money though...He's taken pay cuts long enough to be getting that Delly money....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--dwyane-wade-fielding--20-million-a-year-offers-012602222.html

The Chicago Bulls, Dallas Mavericks, Denver Nuggets and Milwaukee Bucks have started a courtship process that has included offers in length of two and three years and upward of $20 million a season – a salary the Heat so far have been reluctant to offer, league sources said.
The Nuggets and Bulls have been among the most aggressive pursuers of Wade, league sources said.

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This shit is crazy......

But if he did, the Bulls sit at the bottom of the best situations.
Plus, both him, Butler and Valentine?

That was after all why we traded Rose, and are having contract negotiations with 35 year old bum knee Wade and the arch rival ball dominating downgrade of a PG Rajon Rondo.

Do BarfPacks have any idea wtf they're doing?

https://vine.co/v/ej1wQpUHZOD

Just enough to make the playoffs.
That's what those signings mean to me.

>Miami basically showed D. Wade the door by offering him
>$10 million per. No wonder he's really talking to other
>teams

heard it about a week ago but it was 3/54. can't believe they gave him four years. $18M, whatever, but the max term? that is ridiculous

BAZE DA GAWD

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WATTBA

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2 million difference isn't enough to go from a perennial playoff team to either of those two.

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/statuses/749081612738961409
The Lakers decided not to give Bazemore a $1.1 million qualifying offer in 2014 to make him a restricted free agent.

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They wanted to resign bazemore, but he took the longer deal in Atlanta, and y'all see how that worked out.

Lakers make Ryan Kelly, not Kent Bazemore, a restricted free agent

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-ryan-kelly-20140629-story.html


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Also possible when it comes to Whiteside who we cut from the summer league team.

more just...funny how things have changed that fast

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Just so many players that aren't given a chance or teams miss on because they have some preconceived notion in their heads...whether that be the GM or head coach or someone else.

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