Last I saw Vegas has it Cavaliers +180 and Warriors -210.

SOMEBODY GET LEBRON SOME HELP!!

Poll question: Does Lebron have enough help this time?

Poll result (33 votes) Yes (19 votes) Vote No (9 votes) Vote Let's see what happens first (5 votes) Vote

If they can't win in 7, they ain't got it.

Now last year was some bullshit. LeBron still stole 2.

"if they can't win in 7, they ain't got it." is like an athlete saying "whoever scores more points will win." but really though, if Cavs don't win in 6, they won't win game 7 in Oakland.

OKC goes NyQuil in the 4th. Cavs get handed that same condition, GUILE.

>OKC goes NyQuil in the 4th. Cavs get handed that same
>condition, GUILE.

if it happens a third...

didn't you call ppl saying Bron still the best the flat earth society?

i don't see how this is a strike against bron if he loses. his supporting cast not as good, and he's probably no longer good enough to make up the difference on a player as great as steph. i'm willing to reconsider if steph plays subpar like he did games 1 and 3-6 last series.

We weren't better than Portland in 2000 or the Kings in 02, Warriors beating a 67 win Mavs team in the 1st round, etc...

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Steph
Klay
Lebron
Durant
Bogut

Iggy and Livingston still coming off the bench

>Steph
>Klay
>Lebron
>Durant
>Bogut
>
>Iggy and Livingston still coming off the bench


What about Dre and Barnes??

And not only am I sick of Draymond...he won't be able to be the leader with Lebron there any way.

Maybe they'll all go!

Lebron
KD
Steph
Melo
CP3

All in South Beach with Wade and Bosh as assistant head coach

You never know!

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Cavs will be much better with Kyrie and Love (and Frye, honestly) on the floor than they were last year.

But the Warriors are better than they were last year too.

Should be a great Finals, honestly. Both terrific teams, both have what it takes to win.

Glad everyone is as close to 100% as can be expected this time of the year.

It's impossible to verify whether enough help exists until the team loses or Lebron has to carry the offensive load. Preemptively I'm going with the Lebron needs more help excuse because Bron needs more help in the form of a bench.

"Steph wasn't 100%"

true or not, they started talking that BS when OKC was up 3-1.

So that narrative should only be used if he significantly injures (or re-injures) himself.


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He got to the finals with a glorified version of the 2007 Cavs.

>It's impossible to verify whether enough help exists until
>the team loses or Lebron has to carry the offensive load.
>Preemptively I'm going with the Lebron needs more help excuse
>because Bron needs more help in the form of a bench.
>
>

The supporting cast is sufficiently talented to win a chip but the mix of talents and personalities might be off.... but that could boomerang on LeBron because he had a big role in building the team.

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Kinda feels like the roles are reversed a bit this year

GSW are the juggernaut dealing w/injury and fatigue

and the CAVs are just doing work with little to no adversity, jelling, etc...

if Bron doesn't get it done this year

= Steph >>>.

>Kinda feels like the roles are reversed a bit this year
>
>GSW are the juggernaut dealing w/injury and fatigue
>
>and the CAVs are just doing work with little to no adversity,
>jelling, etc...
>
>if Bron doesn't get it done this year
>
>= Steph >>>.

LeBron v. Steph, it's more about

GSW 2-12 >>>>>>> CLE 2-12

(caveat 1: I think Draymond is a piss poor man's "LeBron"-type player and that Giannis is going to be a better player in that vein than he ever will but that's an agenda I'll save until after the Finals)

(caveat 2: LeBron v. Steph when it comes to dragging bags of dildos above their pecking order is a non-contest, I don't think Steph has the same kind of pull, he's a paradigm shifter in a completely different way due to his freakish talent.)

Don't want to hear nothing about how worn down he is from OKC series

He averaged like 30 right?

He good

Let's go
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there will be no counterpoint to make


and its going to be glorious

it probably will be his fault in some way but yeah.

In that order

Look, the heat should have beat the Mavs and OKC. EVERY other opponent Bron's played has been a better overall team, 1 - 12.

Warriors got a better bench this time, but the starting five is roughly a wash.

This will be an Xs and Os series. There's adjustments to be made that can give either team fits

..both teams are relatively healthy (or as healthy as you can expect by this time of year).

both teams have all-stars, future hall of famers, skilled position players, and scrappy hustlers coming off the bench.

its all or nothing.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>both teams are relatively healthy (or as healthy as you can expect by this time of year).

Nobody better get injured during a game like last year (Kyrie)...I won't have it.

You don't have to make shit up. People really can't acknowledge that the Cavs were exceptionally injured and Bron kept them in the series? Jesus, what were you watching last year? I really want the Cavs to implode and your nonsense is ruining the fun.

>You don't have to make shit up. People really can't
>acknowledge that the Cavs were exceptionally injured and Bron
>kept them in the series? Jesus, what were you watching last
>year?

Those injuries either didn't happen, weren't that significant, or they imply Bron shit the bed. It's in this post. It's in every Bron post. It's weird.

>Those injuries either didn't happen, weren't that
>significant, or they imply Bron shit the bed. It's in this
>post. It's in every Bron post. It's weird.

the Cavs minus Kyrie should have been SWEPT.
they almost went up 3-0

Nobody is saying anything like that in this post. Like dude said below, this post is actually acknowledging that Bron *didn't* have enough help last year, so not really sure what you're reacting to here.

acknowledging he needed more help last Finals


and now that he has his guys back, there is no excuses

just a general trend. Truth even said Bron "almost got swept." I've never seen so much revisionist history for a finals that JUST happened.

>just a general trend. Truth even said Bron "almost got
>swept." I've never seen so much revisionist history for a
>finals that JUST happened.

"Truth even said..." should be a cue to disregard whatever statement follows.

>"Truth even said..." should be a cue to disregard whatever
>statement follows.

except he's not the only one saying ridiculous shit.

>except he's not the only one saying ridiculous shit.

people say ridiculous shit about all types of things around here. I haven't really seen any in this post though.

the greatest of all time, and you lose. it's that simple. there's only one champion every year. if the warriors win, they were the better team.

i swear, only with lebron do you get this "anything other than a championship is a complete failure/choke/etc

When they were down

Don't wanna hear no 70% plea cops

Cool?
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>You don't have to make shit up. People really can't
>acknowledge that the Cavs were exceptionally injured and Bron
>kept them in the series? Jesus, what were you watching last
>year? I really want the Cavs to implode and your nonsense is
>ruining the fun.

...if they were healthy" narrative as well? 'Cause it's dumb.

First of all, playing the "What if...? game in these situations is always pointless.

second, even if you were to play it, assuming that the Dubs of last year couldn't or wouldn't have made the appropriate adjustments is short-sighted and wrong.

the mouth during the reg season

this is just reverse plea copping.

tho lol.

That Cavs team was overmatched and last year injuries decimated that starting lineup. I'm stunned that so many people seem to overlook Love and Kyrie's injuries last year (and LeBron's performance which was pretty damn great.)

The two Heat losses, obviously, can't fall under that category.

he needs to contribute on offense and defend the perimeter.

he does that, Cavs have their leverage.

If not, then splash brothers will go oink.

sure you could have Lebron do it all series


but his wheels will probably fall off on the offensive end by game 3

like way better off..


Tristan can at least slide his feet when switched off on Curry. Switching with Kevin Love just feels like cruel and unusual punishment.


and Delly will at least try on defense. Even if he's grabbing and mugging Curry everytime. At least he's actually trying.

Or at least no to the degree that OKC did...

Like you said, OKC switched on the Curry/Green pick and roll using Durant a lot of times which took away the immediate 3 from Steph. Also, Durant is agile enough to take away an immediate dive to the basket off the switch were as most big are in a trail position right away.

Cavs don't have a Steven Adams offensively. Thompson can do the rebounding part but he's not as powerful as Adams on the low block.

Cavs don't have a Westbrook. Bron is more than capable of driving the lane but he'll be dealing with Iggy a lot. Kyrie can drive the lane but he's not as big and athletic as Westbrook. Also, for Kyrie to be effective he's gotta dish out 8-10 assists like Westbrook if he's the primary ball handlers in the series.

Cavs don't have as many shot blockers either. Adams & Ibaka are pretty good plus guys like Roberson, Durant & even Waiters were making blocks trailing guys driving to the basket.

OKC showed a lot of things you can do to slow GS down but you need similar personnel to pull it off.
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better match up.

Bron is the GM no matter how much they deny it, so at the end of the day it falls on his shoulders since everyone's healthy.

dude was on that Kevin Durant last night.

ONLY TWO MORE WITH HEALTHY RIE AND LUV

and the warriors got even better.

it's not too far fetched to think the latter based on the former.

they should have been SWEPT.

apparently, this is Worriers-dicklicking central so... whatever

lol

These two games say more about Love and Kyrie than LeBron IMO.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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He can't even help himself right now

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Weren't you a proponent of the Wiggins-Love trade?

it was the right move.

& they had no idea how long it would take Wiggins to come along.
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If he needs two other superstar olympian level players on the squad with him in order to win then maybe we need to rethink that.

no doubt he's great
but is he GOAT?

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gotta love it

Go back to cleveland.

in the OKC series.

LeBron is well past the "no excuses" lane

If the team could unlearn "default isolation play" mode offensively I'd be more optimistic.

besides, GS will just throw in SouthRaleighMan and Ezeli and they'll do the same thing as usual

Kobe had Phil
Jordan had Phil
Tim Duncan had Pop

Bron had???


Look at Jordan as an owner? Cant draft for shit...

If Bron had a HOF coach he would prolly have 5 or 6 rings. He needs to stop playing GM and just play basketball.

He also doesnt have that killer instinct but a coach like Pop or Phil knows how to mind fuck you into becoming an assassin

Stay in GD fam, you losing at this sports stuff.

stay off my dick fam...

thanks in advance.


edit: and as we have seen, a HOF coach as a GM doesnt have the same impact. Phil prolly wont ever make the playoffs in the east as a GM.

Had this or that...he had that and left ...wtf.

How is that making an excuse?

Now stay off my ass... lol.

Gotdamn, dont let the hate blind you fam.

Kobe had Phil
Jordan had Phil
Tim Duncan had Pop

Bron had???


edit: and as we have seen, a HOF coach as a GM doesnt have the same impact. Phil prolly wont ever make the playoffs in the east as a GM.


Pat riley seems to be doing fine as gm in Miami.

And steph curry has......Kerr. Are you putting Kerr in this hof coaching category too? Would Lebron be up 3-1 if kerr was coach???

man, please.

who was coached by Pop and Phil Jackson, played with Jordan and Tim Duncan and just went 73-9.

nigga...

did you really laugh off Kerr like he didn't take the same team (damn near) that Mark Jackson coached and turn it into one of the best squads ever? When a team gets a new coach and goes 73-9 2 years after losing 31 games I think you need to give the coach a lot of credit.

When it's all said and done if his back doesn't break he will definitely be in the HOF as a coach if he stays in GS. They prolly get 2 or 3 more chips if he stays and they keep their core players.

fam seriously, stay over in GD.

point still stands tho.

nice catch

Kurt Rambis has 8 championships and worked with phil too btw. Don't mean a damn thing.

and if they run a fucking offense instead of hero ball they win game 4 in Cleveland.

and that was the end of that.

to be the best he could be I bet he would have more chips.

Bron is a coach killer.


he is still a veast but if he had 1 coach who had that fire Bron would have more rings.

good grief.

and just play ball.

cmon man.

LOL

Do cats honestly think posts just disappear or posters have zero memory recall?

how exactly does he have more help.

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