>Literally everyone and all the elements you just mentioned
>would be completely unaffected by a Nakamura vs Taker match.
>It’s a complete non sequitur to suggest that the celebrity
>element and giving Nakamura the sort of match that would
>positively make his WWE career are even remotely exclusive to
>one another.

In like 3 posts you say you are not suggesting this as a match. But to answer your question. Shane O Mac is not a celebrity but he is going to bring in more WM views on the nostalgia than Nakamura is going to bring in on his technical ability...good long term plan? No, but that's not what WM is about


>
>I'm not understanding all of these little remarks about how I
>somehow want an indy/NXT booked show or these odd comments
>about Big Show and whatnot. Are you guys going to actually
>address any of the things I'm actually saying or will you keep
>erecting scarecrows to joust with?

Well I have addressed each thing, but what happens is you yell at me about what you wish my point was instead, try calming down and seeing my point.

>
>Second, we’re talking about a Taker match. Since when was
>that the spot WWE used for their pop culture bullshit?
>Further, Nakamura is as credible as they come and would be
>over in two weeks on either side of the fence. He’d only be
>relegated to the status of an “IWC darling” because Vince
>is a petty, crotchety old man who is out of touch with
>anything outside his personal reality distortion field.
>

This is fantasy booking, he would be this, he would do this...unless Vince is out of touch...well Vince is out of touch and we know how this will go. I suppose what your point is is that things could have been done better leading up to this point...you're right, nobody is arguing. We are saying the entire company is not going to change in a month.



>Further, you keep insisting I’m on some indy darling shit
>here but that’s nowhere near the mark.

You are fantasy booking WM like an indy darling, and again DON'T GET ME WRONG...I would love your dream matches, I'm simply saying what is realistic in the current environment. I can also post amazing matches I wish happen and explain how it could work, but I know it's fruitless so I'm going to find reasons to enjoy Mania instead.
>
>-I’m asking for Brock to BE THE BEAST, but in a way that
>doesn’t decimate his opponent. You guys are talking about
>how great it would be for Ambrose to be the guy who takes a
>world class ass whooping from Brock. I’m saying it would be
>great for Ambrose to NOT ONLY take that same ass whooping, but
>dish out so much that Brock looked vulnerable and
>beatable….but still win because he IS that badass. Doesn’t
>hurt Brock in the least but it elevates the other guy in the
>equation. Brock is MORE of a badass if he can beat guys who
>can give it back and it keeps the other guy stronger by
>comparison.
>It’s baffling that anyone would take issue with that
>suggestion. Truly baffling. There’s absolutely no logical
>argument to the contrary but I’m open to hear such an
>argument.


I think Brock has been made to look vulnerable and beatable and what we've seen is it usually takes a few guys or some really good wrestlers. They had Reigns on the verge of beating him, They had the Wyatts neutralize him at Rumble, they had Reigns and Ambrose take him out. Your point that someone has to make him look vulnerable 1 on 1 is true, but I also think Ambrose is going to do that before losing.
>
>-I’m asking for WWE to elevate it’s young guys so that
>they can actually carry the brand going forward and WWE can
>stop plugging holes with silly putty every year with old acts
>whose acts age worse and worse with each passing year.
>
>I’m beside myself that anyone would take issue with that
>suggestion. There’s absolutely no logical argument to the
>contrary but I’m open to hear such an argument.


WE ALL AGREE. But what you are saying is that 1 month before mania, these young guys many people don't know should be thrown into the Mania spotlight and that's not going to happen. This is an issue of the last 11 months, not the last few weeks. Nobody here is saying fuck the young guys, we are saying you can't throw Enzo and Cass into Mania and expect it to sell tickets at this point...They should have been brought up at SS or Rumble to make it happen, not in March.
>
>-I’m arguing against MORE McMahons sucking the air and life
>out of every segment they’re in at the expense of the guy
>across from them. I’m advocating for the same time, effort,
>and machinery that’s currently behind keeping Hunter, Steph,
>and Vince as the centerpiece of every episode of Raw to go
>toward building actual, full time heels to occupy those slots.

I agree with this, but I'm also willing to let the Shane story play out because it's new and interesting to me. I have hopes it leads to something good. I'm not willing to react to 1 week of a new story and write it all off.
>
>
>I’m speechless at the notion that anyone would take issue
>with that suggestion. There’s absolutely no logical argument
>to the
>contrary………………………………………….. but
>I’m open to hear such an argument.
>-I’m not advocating against celebrities and a significant
>pop presence at Mania. It’s
>

The issue people have is your attitude and long posts that seem to totally refuse to take anyone elses points in consideration. It's not you against the world here, we all want the same things. Some of us are just more willing than others to accept how it is because we can't change it.

The last 2 Manias we were convinced at this time that they'd be terrible with main events we hated and both times we got swerved. I'm not going to turn on any of this after 1 week of pre mania raw.