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2507371, Hue Jackson shouldn't be "interviewing" for shit
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-05-16 03:35 PM


He shouldn't be INTERVIEWING shit

He should be offered the job OUTRIGHT

He'll get a job, surely, but this dog and pony
show....nobody white has to do that.

He never should have had to even do the coordinator
thing, should have moved on to another job but w/e

In fact, he went from HEAD COACH to RUNNING BACKS COACH
and was only hired by ANOTHER black coach

- HE (not Jay Gruden) transformed Andy Dalton into a semi-elite
QB

- HE not only DEVELOPED Carson Palmer, he ended up being right
about Palmer; given the right circumstances, Palmer is one
of the best QBs in the league.

- HE didn't deserve to lose his first job.

2507376, lulz.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Tue Jan-05-16 03:53 PM
how were your holidays, my dude?
2507437, LAID BACK, my g.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-05-16 08:33 PM
>how were your holidays, my dude?

I was BURNT OUT toward the end of the year.

So I took it EASY. Trying to re-engineer my free time,
like, really forward think my relax time. I've been aight
about that in recent years, but rest needs planning.

So this holiday was a start.

W/A you?
2507870, bittersweet.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Thu Jan-07-16 10:37 AM
>W/A you?

lost a homie
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2015/12/22/remembering-dj-timbuck2-a-guiding-force-in-chicago-hip-hop

but also read some sandra cisneros, got to hang out w/ my 10-month-old niece, and got drunk on some terrific puerto rican rum w/ my GF's crazy ass uncle carmelo on xmas night.

so highs and lows.
2507378, WAT
Posted by Kira, Tue Jan-05-16 03:59 PM
After Oakland he had to prove himself again. Carson quit on two teams so kill that noise. He's done that and is now ready to interview for a head coaching gig.
2507382, He's a better coach than Mike Pettine, Jim Tomsula, Jeff Fucking Fisher . . .
Posted by magilla vanilla, Tue Jan-05-16 04:34 PM
2507387, Tomsula definitely, Fisher is a push, Pettine is a bit of a stretch as far as HC role goes
Posted by Kira, Tue Jan-05-16 04:44 PM
>

Fisher is the worst coach in NFL history but he's a won a lot and at the very least owners know he's one legit QB away from success.

Hue is a definitely a better position coach than Pettine but Hue was fired for overplaying his hand by pushing for Carson.

To assume that Hue deserves a job without interviewing is laughable.
2507398, RE: Hue Jackson shouldn't be "interviewing" for shit
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Tue Jan-05-16 05:26 PM
He Chip Kelly'd himself in Oakland. Except without the winning part. Don't trade the moon for an aging QB who is going to throw 25 interceptions a season. That was a promising young Raiders team but Hue mistakenly thought they were one player away from being contenders...which they weren't.

That said, if they don't let him be GM, I bet he will do well. Which is how I feel about lots of talented coaches.


LOL @ not needing to interview though. Owner just calls him up like, "no need to waste time coming out here to meet in person, job's yours if you want it!"
2507403, would you guys hire hue jackson over todd haley?
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Tue Jan-05-16 05:50 PM
dolphins are interviewing both. seems like a toss up.
2507404, RE: would you guys hire hue jackson over todd haley?
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Tue Jan-05-16 06:02 PM
Anyone hiring Todd Haley as a HC deserves what they get.


Please find anything you can about his tenure in Kansas City and realize that dude is a lunatic. And an idiot.



So, to answer your question, Hue Jackson by a million miles.
2507409, Dolphins are interviewing EVERYONE, lol...
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Jan-05-16 06:38 PM
seriously...here are the names that I've personally read the Dolphins are interviewing: Shanahan, Mike Smith, Teryl Austin, Dan whatever his last name is interim dude who ain't gonna get the job, they've requested permission to speak with both Josh McDaniel and Matt Patricia, Adam Gase, Todd Haley, Doug Marrone...and I have an interview scheduled for Thursday (okay, the last part isn't true)
2507531, Dolphins stay messing up
Posted by The Real, Wed Jan-06-16 09:48 AM
- They passed over Brees for Culpepper
- Hired Cam Cameron over Mike Tomlin (said Tomlin was too hip-hop)
- Bullygate
- Owner just said this week they're a "First class organization everywhere but on the field."

So I don't expect them to make the right decision here.


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2507405, He's one of the few names buzzing for Miami that doesn't nauseate me
Posted by Wonderl33t, Tue Jan-05-16 06:03 PM

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2507413, cosign @ Palmer but nah
Posted by Mr. ManC, Tue Jan-05-16 07:09 PM
Everyone should do the interviews and respect the process. Rooney or now. It can be pony show or it can be due dilligence. He def needs some smell if that's the route he wants to take.

2507419, the interview process appears more like a charade now anyway
Posted by Flash80, Tue Jan-05-16 07:30 PM
like in corp america.. the manager already knows who they wanna hire, but for legality's sake, they conduct 1-2 token interviews with otherwise qualified candidates.

when the yorks gave mike singletary the job without interview, it automatically satisfied the rooney rule and so they didn't even have to speak to anyone else.

so, sure, someone could just give hand hue a job. white twitter would probably go tsar bomba though.

2507441, haha forreal, but you never know.
Posted by Mr. ManC, Tue Jan-05-16 08:48 PM
The process has to be vetted. That's exactly why you have the Rooney rule, cause so many of owners' history has shown their feels for racism.

2507438, the nfl is a good ole boy network
Posted by guru0509, Tue Jan-05-16 08:40 PM
u know these owners would rather hire some bum ass todd haley/josh mcdaniel retread over him
2507440, RE: the nfl is a good ole boy network
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Tue Jan-05-16 08:44 PM
Josh McDaniels and Todd Haley have had the exact same number of head coaching jobs as Hue Jackson.

They fucked their first gigs up bad but Hue did himself in Chip Kelly style in Oakland and was fired by a black man, with good reason.

No one has to cape for Hue Jackson quite yet.
2507474, Chip Kelly? See, this is the shit I'm talking about. Idiot.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Jan-06-16 02:03 AM

This one is easy to solve:

Would the 2015-2016 Arizona Cardinals rather have Carson
Palmer or Giovanni Bernard/Dre Kirkpatrick?

Exactly.

And what about Cincy? Well, IRONICALLY, the REASON Cincy
doesn't miss Carson Palmer is BECAUSE THEIR QB (Andy Dalton)
HAS IMPROVED LEAPS AND BOUNDS UNDER HUE JACKSON.


To the bullshit Chip Kelly comparison:


When was Hue ever given that kind of freedom?

When did he HAVE THE RIGHT PLAYERS IN HAND, and then
ACTIVELY REMOVE THEM because they didn't "fit his style"

IF ANYTHING, Hue is guilty of overreacting to an injury. Thing is, its
hardly an overreaction, because you're shit without a good
QB.

And Carson, when not on a bad team, is a damn near an
MVP candidate. Hue was right.



2507532, RE: Chip Kelly? See, this is the shit I'm talking about. Idiot.
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Wed Jan-06-16 09:49 AM
>
>This one is easy to solve:
>
>Would the 2015-2016 Arizona Cardinals rather have Carson
>Palmer or Giovanni Bernard/Dre Kirkpatrick?

What the fuck?

>Exactly.
>
>And what about Cincy? Well, IRONICALLY, the REASON Cincy
>doesn't miss Carson Palmer is BECAUSE THEIR QB (Andy Dalton)
>HAS IMPROVED LEAPS AND BOUNDS UNDER HUE JACKSON.

Carson retired rather than play for the team. Not sure how this relates to Andy Dalton, nor who ever said Jackson was not doing a good job as a coordinator.

Chip Kelly got the best season ever by a QB out of Nick Foles. So what, he is still fired because he blew it as a GM.

>
>To the bullshit Chip Kelly comparison:
>
>
>When was Hue ever given that kind of freedom?

He was the GM, had carte blanche and made a BIG TIME move and it backfired. Shit happens but let's not pretend it didn't happen.

>
>When did he HAVE THE RIGHT PLAYERS IN HAND, and then
>ACTIVELY REMOVE THEM because they didn't "fit his style"

He didn't do that. Has nothing to do with what he DID do.

>IF ANYTHING, Hue is guilty of overreacting to an injury. Thing
>is, its
>hardly an overreaction, because you're shit without a good
>QB.

Well, it was a HUGE overreaction and the team got burned and he got fired. Had he just played it cool with the injury and accepted that he was on a team that was nowhere near title contention things would have been different. But he didn't, he fucked up.

>
>And Carson, when not on a bad team, is a damn near an
>MVP candidate. Hue was right.
>

Well, the Raiders sure as hell were not the right team, so what does that matter.

He fucked up and then a black man fired him. Not gonna sit here caping for a dude who broke the cardinal rule- DONT BE THE COACH AND THE GM!

If you go that route and it doesn't work out, I don't want to hear it. Period.



2507766, u may be right but hte NFL is still a G.O.B. network.
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jan-06-16 09:58 PM
>Josh McDaniels and Todd Haley have had the exact same number
>of head coaching jobs as Hue Jackson.
>
>They fucked their first gigs up bad but Hue did himself in
>Chip Kelly style in Oakland and was fired by a black man, with
>good reason.
>
>No one has to cape for Hue Jackson quite yet.
2507464, I Still Ride for Raheem Morris
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jan-06-16 12:18 AM
Young dude won 10 games with a bunch of rookies in a division where the Saints AND the Falcons were balling. From there he loses his job and is a D-line coach in Baltimore. Not even a sniff at a coordinator job.

Ridiculous (Jersey stand up!)

And hopefully Hue Jackson gets offered a better gig than one where he'll be completely blamed for a bad team and a terrible GM
2507536, RE: I Still Ride for Raheem Morris
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Wed Jan-06-16 09:51 AM
>Young dude won 10 games with a bunch of rookies in a division
>where the Saints AND the Falcons were balling. From there he
>loses his job and is a D-line coach in Baltimore. Not even a
>sniff at a coordinator job.
>
>Ridiculous (Jersey stand up!)
>
>And hopefully Hue Jackson gets offered a better gig than one
>where he'll be completely blamed for a bad team and a terrible
>GM

Sorry to inform you that Hue Jackson was the "terrible GM" of whom you speak. So it's hard not to be blamed for being a "terrible GM" who fails to recognize that he has a "bad team" and shouldn't be shipping valuable assets away for an old QB who is going to lead the league in interceptions.

Then a black man fired him.
2507569, He was the DB coach for Washington for 2 years.
Posted by B.J.S.301, Wed Jan-06-16 11:46 AM
And folks partly blame him for how shitty the DBs were his time there. Raheem has a lot of work to do to regain his reputation and unfortunately, unless he gets some talent in Baltimore, its gonna be a helluva task.
2507767, This is a shocker.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Jan-06-16 10:00 PM
>And folks partly blame him for how shitty the DBs were his
>time there.

Of course they blame him


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2508234, Haslett is a horrible DC. His teams have never been top 10.
Posted by B.J.S.301, Sat Jan-09-16 06:26 AM
Not since his time with the Steelers which was one year. Never had a good defense with the Saints and Washington had historically bad numbers. London Fletcher has even gone on record and said he would do his own adjustments against the will of Haslett. Said Haslett was dumb.

What I will say about Raheem Morris, Ryan Clark thinks highly of him. Says he is the best coach that he has ever played around. Breeland seemed to start to flourish around him. But that defense was so horrible that everyone unfortunately had to be let go.
2507535, Hue is hands down the best candidate... but are u serious about not inter?
Posted by rjc27, Wed Jan-06-16 09:51 AM
it's going to be a formality for him, but it's still necessary, he SHOULD be able to choose his next job imo
2507825, :(
Posted by will_5198, Thu Jan-07-16 02:24 AM
wish the Colts could've got him. Jackson has A.J. McCarron looking like a startable NFL quarterback and Andy Dalton a MVP candidate -- he would definitely unleash the raw GOAT-ness within our savior Andrew Luck.
2507878, Please come to SF, Hue
Posted by Amritsar, Thu Jan-07-16 10:55 AM
2507926, I think we are going to end up with him.
Posted by realityrap, Thu Jan-07-16 01:54 PM
Whiffed on Payton and shaw.
2507938, I don't think Payton was ever leaving N.O.
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jan-07-16 02:36 PM
And hoping Shaw would leave Stanford and have to deal with the Yorks on a daily basis, without having a stronger roster to work with, was pretty much a pipe dream too.
2507949, it would be a good hire.
Posted by Flash80, Thu Jan-07-16 03:28 PM
notwithstanding the palmer trade after he became de facto GM plus the late-season collapse that year, i thought hue's raider ouster after one season was premature.

like, wack ass dennis allen went into a third year!

but reggie mckenzie wanted to bring in his own people.

david shaw would have waaay better options in the nfl if he chose to leave the farm. he's a harbaugh guy through and through, so no way he works for jed.
2508109, He's been my first choice from jump
Posted by OldPro, Fri Jan-08-16 03:02 PM
Going 8-8 with that Raider squad was more impressive to me than Payton winning a super bowl with Brees.

Crazy he's had to wait this long for another job
2508112, Pro!!!!!!
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Jan-08-16 03:14 PM
Wassup, homie?
2507932, I'd take Hue in New York.
Posted by magilla vanilla, Thu Jan-07-16 02:11 PM
with Eli and OBJ? Sheeeeeeeeeiiittttt (c) Clay
2635766, 2 seasons and 31 losses later, Hue gets a third season
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sun Dec-31-17 08:16 PM