Rings in 15, 17, 18. In 16 he was their best player in Game 7 despite the suspension earlier in the series. This year he might be playing his best ball and definitely being his best self. Even nights when he didn't have any flashy plays--threes or big blocks or flashy passes--but he fucked around and got a triple double.

So I think he's only improved his standing since then. Definitely a top 10 defensive player and top 10 two-way player given what he allows the Dubs to do on offense as well. Is he a top 10 player overall? I think that's rarefied air for sure and some other guys have stepped forward in the past four seasons. But he is up there and I'd definitely hear an argument for his total impact being greater than a guy who just scores, like Harden. I'd say he is top 15 today.