Let me just say off the top...FUCK WASHINGTON! Like for real. They could go 0-16 for the rest of my lifetime and I'd be good with that. That said...I will take ZERO pleasure in seeing this dude get beat onto the Injured Reserve list. Shit is disgusting. Maybe dude is not the best with the media, maybe he's too cocky for what he's achieved, maybe you hate his braids. Whatever. But, not like this.

.

>.

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<================== Learn the name now before everyone gets dunked on

WFC is one of those franchises that thinks a QB is more important than an offensive line.

This is the result.

He a bust already?

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CM48vvKWEAU7cwp.mp4

And RG3 got his soul taken on this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CM5ARHcWgAExc5i.mp4

OVER.

The second was a green-dog (anyone who watched NFL network knows what i'm referring too) where the back didn't come out and the LB saw the opening and sprinted FULL steam at griff. Rib cage exposed and just crushed him.

.

local radio is talking about how so much better cousins and mccoy
played and they're practically salivating about the rgiii concussion.
he needs to try to get out of dodge and let this bitch continue
to implode.

ran untouched from about 12 yards, targeted Griff and just detonated his chest in half...shit hurt me soul (c)Lupe

They let the defense crush his soul. Cousins and McCoy got protection. Griff didn't. It was like the coach was "hoping" he would get hurt.

Jay Gruden, Arena League QB and Offensive Coordinator for a cup of coffee... how did he get head coach? oh yeah... Dan dumbracistass Snyder.

and that Griff needs to get out while he can.

>

copped tix of my coworker for the Thursday night at MetLife on the premise that it's great to see RG3 play in person (because who wants to be stuck in Jersey on Thursday night trying to get back to NYC). Hope he's still healthy at that point. One of the only teams we have a shot at sweeping this year in the NFC East, but it won't be a moral victory if their qb gets killed.

if he went to Cleveland he'd still be their starting QB (and standing upright)

instead they're still fielding backups as starters
and grooming an inferior production line copy of him to be their QB of their future

that organization is bullshit

that same line looked serviceable w/ colt mccoys ass in why wasnt he getting teed off on?

rg3 reads slowly. he doesnt have the sense of when to slide...move the pocket. he has 2 modes...running or throwing. we need a blend of em. he doesnt have the line or the time to drop back, stop, let the play develop, avoid the rush, AND release the ball...hes got to be mobile but not immd go to emergency hero ball lemme run this end around shit

oh well, our local sports talk shows are showing him no mercy


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

I mean, dude even seems like he falls to the ground in a way that would invite injury. I'm on my Fuck Washington shit right now, though. Not even a huge fan of Griff...but last night feels like it didn't have to be as bad as it was.

His feel in the pocket is terrible and his ability to read and anticipate breaks is poor. He got lit by Levy because he was late getting the ball to Garcon. He knows where the break is, so that ball is suppoed to be gone, so levy can't unload on him.

Instead he held it, waited and got killed. That's not on the line.

We'll never really know what could have been.

Absolute truth. Dude had Aaron Rodgers POTENTIAL coming out of college.

I called it when they drafted him. He is never going to be anything while he is on that team, and maybe not ever now.

>Absolute truth. Dude had Aaron Rodgers POTENTIAL coming out
>of college.

in retrospect he never did.

a lot of his failure is playing for one of the worst franchises in the league and not his fault, however Bob will never, in any universe, have 1% of Rodgers pocket presence and general pass anticipation.

Bob has the tools, and almost none of the other things (besides toughness) that make you a great QB.

or even a good one.

no awareness, no OL, no team = failure for everyone.

People forget Rodgers was not RODGERS coming out of college. He got to sit and learn the NFL game from the best for four years and they got plugged into a SB contending team.

Griffin came to a team with terrible coaches, a college read-option system, and a squad bereft of talent or prestige, and started day one.


So nah, I'm not buying what you are selling.

that made a difference for AR though I remember rumors at one point that Favre was a shitty mentor and didn't want to teach his replacement.

But I've seen nothing in four years that leads me to believe Bob ever would have developed the timing and pocket presence required to be good.

You don't need to sit behind a HOF'er to learn when to dump the damn ball off, something he still struggles with today.

He got concussed yesterday because he tried to scramble on 3rd and 15, with no open field, an open RB waiting for a dump off, and all in a preseason game.

Dude just does not have it. And any chance he did have it was ruined by going to Washington.

>that made a difference for AR though I remember rumors at one
>point that Favre was a shitty mentor and didn't want to teach
>his replacement.

That's what coaches are for, as Farve pointed out. And Rodgers had some great ones, for four years.

>
>But I've seen nothing in four years that leads me to believe
>Bob ever would have developed the timing and pocket presence
>required to be good.

He had the first in college, and the second is something that can be learned.

>
>You don't need to sit behind a HOF'er to learn when to dump
>the damn ball off, something he still struggles with today.
>

No, but you might need to not spend several years in the maelstrom of failure and confusion that is WFC.

>He got concussed yesterday because he tried to scramble on 3rd
>and 15, with no open field, an open RB waiting for a dump off,
>and all in a preseason game.

By then he had already been sacked several times and taken hits on almost every play. So yeah, I'm not surprised he couldn't see the field.

>
>Dude just does not have it. And any chance he did have it was
>ruined by going to Washington.

there's plenty of blame for everyone, including Bob.

>there's plenty of blame for everyone, including Bob.
>

We can agree here. The minute he went to that team it was over. They mortgaged the future on a QB, then spent a third round pick on another QB. Hustling backwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdx6Z7qujIA

The injury really hurt his ability to perform @ a high level + his potential development
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2. He had tremendous success in that offense, to the point he almost singlehandedly took the team to the playoffs.

3. He got severely injured in a playoff game. It's much easier to blame Mike Shanahan for that because Mike Shanahan is a lying asshole, but Griffin was asked repeatedly by teammates and assistant coaches during the game if he was ok. He insisted he was and trudged on. Months later he would blame Shanahan for not taking him out of the game.

4. With Adidas pushing him from behind, Griffin declared himself "all in for week one" months before the season and well in advance of him having even completed his rehab stint. (Aside: our owner is the worst owner in professional sports - he endorsed this behavior, forced Shanahan's hand, and ensured that Griffin would start his second season from week one.)

5. Citing his injury, an injury that he was partially responsible for mind you, Griffin told Shanahan he would no longer run the custom "read-option" offense that Mike and Kyle had built specifically for him. (Meanwhile Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson have both since made the Super Bowl with the exact same offense.) Griffin's case to Shanahan was that designed runs left him more vulnerable to injury. Shanahan conceded and installed a more contemporary under center/drop back quarterback offense.

6. In his second year, Griffin failed playing a traditional style of offense. Shanahan was fired, rightfully so.

7. Jay Gruden should not be an NFL head coach. He's a loser. Nonetheless, he was brought in and heralded as a QB whisperer whose sole mission was to fix RGIII. Gruden swiftly realized that Griffin can not play quarterback at this level in a traditional manner - looking down field, making 2-4 reads in less than 2.5 seconds, releasing the ball impulsively.

In short, Griffin's hubris contributed greatly to the shitstorm of the last three plus years. He's obviously not the only reason they're bad - I primarily blame the owner for enabling Griffin and also Shanahan for being incompetent in the way of judging NFL talent. But Griffin was too arrogant for his own role, he saw how vulnerable the organization was and he had his way with it on the back of an owner who, honestly, is one of the most despicable men in American business.

I have said many times that the Skins are Knicks/Maple Leafs of the NHL but at least those teams have stars who, albeit often in a me-first way, produce. Well, I guess the Leafs don't anymore, but you get what I mean.

RG3 isnt gonna be the only QB to get detonated by the Lions

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Sounds like they trust Mathis, Quin, Ihedigbo, and Slay enough to drop 5 and bring 6

And Austin is smart enough to do some cool stuff with that

Plus with Tulloch back they can do some things with Levy that they couldnt last year

people clowned me when I said the Lions were close last year...they were.. real close..


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Lions are going nowhere, and I say that as a Bears fan knowing we will struggle to win 4 games.

They can't win in Green Bay so forget winning the division.

Minnesota is going to be a tough out this year and might be better than Detroit.

The schedule is pretty rough and one wild card spot is almost certainly going to the NFC West, which leaves one up for grabs. I am highly skeptical that the Lions get it playing in a division as competitive as the North will be.


Also, Matthew Stafford is just not that good.

But I will say, as you are a bears fan....fuck off.

Duly noted.


I just don't get the reason for optimism, this team has the same basic parts it already had. Great front 4 with a solid linebacking corps and a mediocre-decent secondary, HOF WR paired with a hot & cold gunslinging QB and a decent but not great oline.


They have an outside shot of making the playoffs but that's about it.


Obviously they will annihilate the Bears but again, that's same thing they have been doing.

You didnt even mention Teryl Austin.

>Great front 4

obviously

>solid
>linebacking corps

Major undersell. Levy is the best OLB in the league, Tulloch is top 10 at worst MLB, and Tahir Whitehead is solid in a complimentary way. I also REALLY like Josh Bynes. As a group thats way beyond solid.

>mediocre-decent secondary,

Wat? Lol. Ihedigbo, Quin, Slay, and Mathis are firmly a top 10 group. Quin and Ihedigbo are the best safety duo not playing in Seattle, Mathis simply does not make mistakes, and Slay is on the verge of top 10 status. Nickel is a question mark, but its the only one.

This is another top 5 defense.

>You didnt even mention Teryl Austin.

Fair point

>
>>Great front 4
>
>obviously
>
>>solid
>>linebacking corps
>
>Major undersell. Levy is the best OLB in the league,


Thomas Davis and Bobby Wagner are both better to my taste, because while they might not stop the run quite as effectively, both are much better in coverage. Levy is def really good.



Tulloch
>is top 10 at worst MLB,

I'm doubtful. There are a lot of MLBs in the league (just think of all the 3-4 teams starting two apiece) but with guys like WIllis retiring and Bowman still a question mark, he might squeeze in the top 10. He is a good player though.

and Tahir Whitehead is solid in a
>complimentary way. I also REALLY like Josh Bynes. As a group
>thats way beyond solid.
>

No idea who Josh Bynes is. But yeah, I may have sold this unit short, they are better than solid. The entire front 7 is excellent.

>>mediocre-decent secondary,
>
>Wat? Lol. Ihedigbo, Quin, Slay, and Mathis are firmly a top
>10 group. Quin and Ihedigbo are the best safety duo not
>playing in Seattle, Mathis simply does not make mistakes,
>and
>Slay is on the verge of top 10 status. Nickel is a question
>mark, but its the only one.
>

This is where you lost me:

Glover Quin had a great season but he is not Eric Berry yet.

Ihedigbo...I just don't see him as anything better than good. Maybe I am biased since I knew his sister fairly well and she was just a horrible person haha, but yeah, he is a solid player but anything beyond that I have not seen. And he never made a Pro Bowl, so yeah, no.

Mathis is a good player but he is also a 34 year old cornerback who only intercepted one pass last year. He was solid and might be so again, but when corners hit that wall, they fall off suddenly.

Slay is a promising young corner but I am not willing to put him even at top 15.

And nickel is, as you pointed out, still under construction.


>This is another top 5 defense.
>


Well, my thesis was, strong defense, same Lions offense that they have been working with, all equals, same Lions we have seen more or less for last two years.


Which, in this division, has not been enough to take the crown off the Packers. And with Vikings on the come up, outside of Chicago there won't be any gimmes. I don't really see them even making the 'offs.

In 139 combined starts Wagner and Davis have a total of 11 INT and 50 PD

In 81 starts Levy has 12 INT and 33 PD

Cmon lol

EDIT: he also has 2 return touchdowns to their 0

>In 139 combined starts Wagner and Davis have a total of 11
>INT and 50 PD
>
>In 81 starts Levy has 12 INT and 33 PD
>
>Cmon lol
>
>EDIT: he also has 2 return touchdowns to their 0


Raw stats like that don't always say what the story is right today. Not only that but playing in a division with Chicago and Minnesota the last few years has been a great way to rack up int's, I'm sure.

You could go off PFF which has Davis as their best 4-3 OLB in coverage just as easily.

And Wagner, I'm going off stuff like seeing dude legit covering Randall Cobb man-to-man fifty yards downfield.

You feel like he is the best OLB in league, I feel like he is prolly 3rd. Not the end of the world.


Our assessment of the secondary is far more noteworthy. I have Lions as decent, you have them with an elite safety combo and two great corners. Other than that our assessments of the defense, at this point in the discussion, are not far apart.

Mathis is what he is, a leader who uses great technique and never botches coverage

He doesn't have the athleticism anymore to be great, but hes very good because of things that dont fade with age

Elite safety combo tho, im riding with that.

But did the defensive starters for the Lions play a good amount of minutes in the referenced game? I was under the impression pre-season games were for second and third stringers for the most part.

Griffin only saw the Lions starting D

Which didnt even include Ngata. Good sign for me, bad sign for Washington OL.

It's bad overall for RG3 get a beating in a pre-season game, but I was thinking the Washington OL possibly got beat by second and third stringers. Makes it somewhat better Griffin got his braids dirty as result of getting mangled by starters.

The Lions are beast. Say what you want about my boys, but they are going to bring it this year!!!! :)

I am just trying not to get my hopes too high. But, I want to see them win. :)

GO LIONS!!!!

.

but Levy looked like he was shot out of a fucking cannon on that play. He looked like a missile...locked in on Griff's chest/ribcage.

i thought they had designed offense to help rgIII roll out more??

Since I am a Jacksonville fan.

But that's how much of a mess that franchise has been and continues to be. I prefer our predictable mediocrity with the occasional wild card chase to what must be a torturous roller coaster of emotions for Washington fans.

it's amazing Snyder has been able to squeeze money out of the fan base for this long.

When Colt McCoy goes 6 for 25 on some Tebow shit I'm pointing out this QBR shit they're hyping right now. When Kirk throws four interceptions I'm pointing to his QB rating in the preseason against third stringers.

You don't need fancy stats to tell you that RG3 is awful. Mccoy is serviceable, and Cousins is extremely hot + extremely cold.

>You don't need fancy stats to tell you that RG3 is awful.
>Mccoy is serviceable, and Cousins is extremely hot + extremely
>cold.

Colt McCoy is a solid backup. As for Kirk....

He threw 10 TDs and 9 interceptions on a 61.8 completion percentage going 1 and 4 as starter. You'll point to his 86.4 completion percentage as I say 1 AND 4. He was 0-3 in 2013. Kirk Cousins is not starter material RIGHT TODAY.

We'll find out this season. All I know is a certain section of this fan base hyped Kirk for two years now like he's the guy when stats show he's far from it. Do you really want Kirk starting over RG3? Kirk starts at some point this year and we watch what happens.

#1 in the NFL in yards per game (1710 yards in 5.5 games = 311 yards/game)
#2 in the NFL in yards per attempt
#5 in the NFL in lowest sack rate (min. attempts: 100)
#10 in the NFL in adjusted net yards per attempt (yards per attempt, but subtracts yards allowed on sacks, awards 20 yards for a TD, and penalizes 45 yards for an INT)
#13 in the NFL in TD% (min. attempts: 100)
#15 in the NFL in DVOA, #23 in the NFL in DYAR despite only playing 5.5 games

#1 in Redskins franchise history in yards per game
#2 in Redskins franchise history in yards per attempt
#6 in Redskins franchise history in adjusted net yards per attempt (min attempts: 200)
#8 in Redskins franchise history in sack rate (min. attempts: 200)
#13 in Redskins franchise history in passer rating (min. attempts: 200)

He had a promising outing in 2014 and I see no reason why he can't be an NFL starter, assuming he can get control over his INTs. Griffin's passing stats need to be filtered through the understanding that he is the league leader in sacks and among the worst fumblers in NFL history, so he actually has as many or more negative plays than Cousins.

just cause cousins might be a bit better than rg3 and mccoy dont mean he also dont fucking suck.

>#1 in the NFL in yards per game (1710 yards in 5.5 games =
>311 yards/game)
>#2 in the NFL in yards per attempt
>#5 in the NFL in lowest sack rate (min. attempts: 100)
>#10 in the NFL in adjusted net yards per attempt (yards per
>attempt, but subtracts yards allowed on sacks, awards 20 yards
>for a TD, and penalizes 45 yards for an INT)
>#13 in the NFL in TD% (min. attempts: 100)
>#15 in the NFL in DVOA, #23 in the NFL in DYAR despite only
>playing 5.5 games
>
>#1 in Redskins franchise history in yards per game
>#2 in Redskins franchise history in yards per attempt
>#6 in Redskins franchise history in adjusted net yards per
>attempt (min attempts: 200)
>#8 in Redskins franchise history in sack rate (min. attempts:
>200)
>#13 in Redskins franchise history in passer rating (min.
>attempts: 200)
>
>He had a promising outing in 2014 and I see no reason why he
>can't be an NFL starter, assuming he can get control over his
>INTs. Griffin's passing stats need to be filtered through the
>understanding that he is the league leader in sacks and among
>the worst fumblers in NFL history, so he actually has as many
>or more negative plays than Cousins.
>

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CousKi00.htm

WHAT PROMISING OUTING? Show me some promise because I don't see it. This dude is 2-7 over nine starts with a completion percentage of 59. LOL at you bringing up advanced metrics then plea copping.

Here's the source you used:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/29722/kirk-cousins

In 2013 his DYAR was -314, YAR -300, and VOA -41.2. In 2014 his DYAR was 223 which slotted him at 24, YAR 213, and VOA 3.9. Your boy isn't nearly as good as you think he is.

Of course, he'll perform better because Jay Gruden loves pocket passers. This Washington team needs a good old boy with a strong arm to come through.

DYAR is a volume + efficiency stat. You make a positive play? You get DYAR. You make a negative play? You take away DYAR. The more plays you run, the more opportunities you have to accumulate DYAR. Therefore, the fact that Kirk Cousins had only 204 pass attempts yet placed #24 in the league means he had a very good year. His DYAR per game was 41 (224 DYAR accumulated in 5.5 games - we'll ignore that he missed 1.5 series against the Jaguars). 41 DYAR per game over the course of a 16 game season is 656 DYAR, which would place him #11 in the league, right behind Andrew Luck and ahead of the likes of Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford.

Here are the top Redskins single-season performances by a QB over the past 2 decades, ranked in order of DYAR per game:

1. 2007 - Todd Collins (71 DYAR/game)
2. 1999 - Brad Johnson (67 DYAR/game)
2. 2012 - Griffin (48.5 DYAR/game)
3. 2014 - Cousins (41 DYAR/game)
4. 2006 - Brunell (41 DYAR/game)
5. 2005 - Brunell (33 DYAR/game)
6. 2000 - Brad Johnson (31 DYAR/game)
7. 2008 - Campbell (29 DYAR/game)
8. 2007 - Campbell (25 DYAR/game)
9. 2009 - Campbell (11 DYAR/game)
10. 2010 - McNabb (10 DYAR/game)

So according to DYAR, Cousins had the 4th best season by a Redskins QB in 2 decades. And these are stats that take into account the impact of interceptions. Cousins has way more potential than Griffin - it's not really that close.

>DYAR is a volume + efficiency stat. You make a positive
>play? You get DYAR. You make a negative play? You take away
>DYAR. The more plays you run, the more opportunities you have
>to accumulate DYAR. Therefore, the fact that Kirk Cousins had
>only 204 pass attempts yet placed #24 in the league means he
>had a very good year. His DYAR per game was 41 (224 DYAR
>accumulated in 5.5 games - we'll ignore that he missed 1.5
>series against the Jaguars). 41 DYAR per game over the course
>of a 16 game season is 656 DYAR, which would place him #11 in
>the league, right behind Andrew Luck and ahead of the likes of
>Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford.
>
>Here are the top Redskins single-season performances by a QB
>over the past 2 decades, ranked in order of DYAR per game:
>
>1. 2007 - Todd Collins (71 DYAR/game)
>2. 1999 - Brad Johnson (67 DYAR/game)
>2. 2012 - Griffin (48.5 DYAR/game)
>3. 2014 - Cousins (41 DYAR/game)
>4. 2006 - Brunell (41 DYAR/game)
>5. 2005 - Brunell (33 DYAR/game)
>6. 2000 - Brad Johnson (31 DYAR/game)
>7. 2008 - Campbell (29 DYAR/game)
>8. 2007 - Campbell (25 DYAR/game)
>9. 2009 - Campbell (11 DYAR/game)
>10. 2010 - McNabb (10 DYAR/game)
>
>So according to DYAR, Cousins had the 4th best season by a
>Redskins QB in 2 decades. And these are stats that take into
>account the impact of interceptions. Cousins has way more
>potential than Griffin - it's not really that close.

Cousins had the 4th best season by a Washington QB in 2 decades... AND WENT 1 AND 4.

This dude said takes into account the impact of interceptions. If he has so much potential THEN WHY THE FUCK DID HE GO 1-4? PLEAS answer me. Let me point your potential to RG3's rookie year. If he's so good then why hasn't he started. Is there a conspiracy to keep the ***** man down? Let us know pleas.

The floor is yours so educated us on Kirk because we don't see it.

"right behind Andrew Luck and ahead of the likes of Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford."


Because that isn't how statistics work.

Kirk Cousins isn't "right behind" Andrew Luck in anything.

And he isn't "ahead of" Russell Wilson in anything.

only it's not just fans of one team sicing him. it's unreal.

he's one of those guys who wins 2 games (one against the Steelers) for the Browns and gets crowned

This dude actually said that

Kirk misses throws in key situations. 3rd downs for instance. He's also a turnover machine under any kind of pressure. Aka he doesn't even have the decency to finish drives with punts like Tebow in his starter days. That's two of the worse problems to have as a qb. So no on Kirko Cuzo. I saw the good too. Then he started those games in a row and tanked huge. he was especially brutal on that Thursday night game vs the Giants. He was so bad, the Giants had people on the bench in the 4th. The Giants!



>>You don't need fancy stats to tell you that RG3 is awful.
>>Mccoy is serviceable, and Cousins is extremely hot +
>extremely
>>cold.
>
>Colt McCoy is a solid backup. As for Kirk....
>
>He threw 10 TDs and 9 interceptions on a 61.8 completion
>percentage going 1 and 4 as starter. You'll point to his 86.4
>completion percentage as I say 1 AND 4. He was 0-3 in 2013.
>Kirk Cousins is not starter material RIGHT TODAY.
>
>We'll find out this season. All I know is a certain section of
>this fan base hyped Kirk for two years now like he's the guy
>when stats show he's far from it. Do you really want Kirk
>starting over RG3? Kirk starts at some point this year and we
>watch what happens.

you only have to go back on OKS three years to see all the ridiculously arrogant, hyperbolic and dumb shit they wrote en masse. and the ones off OKS are even worse.

>you only have to go back on OKS three years to see all the
>ridiculously arrogant, hyperbolic and dumb shit they wrote en
>masse. and the ones off OKS are even worse.

That's one mistake a Jaguars fan won't make, I reckon.

I really do feel bad for him.

I hope he gets to a capable team/organization while he's still in his semi prime years

This is exactly the kind of outside-looking-in misinformed opinion that's keeping his stock afloat here locally.

The truth is that he simply cannot play quarterback at the NFL level in a traditional sense.

>The truth is that he simply cannot play quarterback at the NFL
>level in a traditional sense.

i haven't seen a high light where he looks good yet
greg robinson might be the best top 5 OT of the last couple years
fisher, joeckel, and lane johnson have all been meh so far

Hate to say this about the org that I root for but its true. A change of ownership is a must but that isn't gonna happen.

I did say that I didn't like Scherff as the #5 pick but damn, I don't want to be right about that shit.

take on the matter, and he just had this really sinister, smug look on his face.


Let my love slide in and never slip out

Thats why ppl call him Chucky

>Thats why ppl call him Chucky


Let my love slide in and never slip out

>
complete waste of time, and I'm still trying to figure out why they cut to him in the first place. At that moment, I just felt like he KNEW Jay wanted to get this kid killed. I could have been reading too much into it, but the shit made me upset.

Let my love slide in and never slip out

to play Saturday. Today...neurologist say "nah, son...you ain't cleared".

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13535365/robert-griffin-iii-play-washington-redskins-saturday-night

I heard that shit and was like WTF...what franchise does that?
A franchise where the coach hates the QB and needs a built in reason for the QB to lose his job.

>...what franchise does
>that?

the eagles had a player collapse on the field after bypassing an exam
last playoffs the steelers put a concussed player back out there on prime time tv
i know the redskins might be the most hated team on this site now but this shit ain't unique to them

>>...what franchise does
>>that?
>
>the eagles had a player collapse on the field after bypassing
>an exam
>last playoffs the steelers put a concussed player back out
>there on prime time tv
>i know the redskins might be the most hated team on this site
>now but this shit ain't unique to them
And I don't hate Washington at all...no dog in that fight

But to say he's CLEARED to play, then say he's not AFTER a concussion, where you lead the franchise QB get obliterated in a pre-season game? Come on

.

And this isn't an Eagles-Skins thing...it just disgusts me. We all already know (and I have a friend who is the former PT for the Broncos so I've heard a lot more things that will never go public) that the NFL treats its players as completely expendable pieces in terms of health...but there are certainly some organizations which take player health far less seriously than others when it comes to standard protocols and understanding risk-reward.

If they cut him while he's injured. That's why they want to clear him. They're trying to cut him without paying him.

.

Based upon them having that racist assed name. While a righteous stance that woukdve won him love, it would've gotten him out of playing for a known horrible organization and owner. He might not have had as much clout as Eli or Elway to pull it off but so what if he would've had to sit out a year.

He should've fuckin better known better. He should've done the right thing.

A fucking circus.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13538010/washington-redskins-planning-starting-kirk-cousins-qb-week-1

KC is going to cement his status as best QB in franchise history (c)

They're moving on already? The leash for the black QB is short ain't it. KC goes 2-7 yet somehow he's still in the mix for starting QB. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL

>They're moving on already? The leash for the black QB is short
>ain't it. KC goes 2-7 yet somehow he's still in the mix for
>starting QB. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL
That leash is VERY short...between RGIII, Josh Freeman (I'm still blown by how dirty he got treated), even Geno to a lesser extent.

>
>>They're moving on already? The leash for the black QB is
>short
>>ain't it. KC goes 2-7 yet somehow he's still in the mix for
>>starting QB. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL
>That leash is VERY short...between RGIII, Josh Freeman (I'm
>still blown by how dirty he got treated), even Geno to a
>lesser extent.
>
>

Josh Freeman's states and Eli Manning's are basically identical their first 4 years in the league and they were ready to run Freeman out of Tampa.


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I am so disapponted.

i may have to officially hand in my skins card after this
rgiii debacle. there's always some debacle with this team
and it started with snyder.

Such a horrible fall from grace. I really don't know if I can be a fan anymore after this either.

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http://i.imgur.com/dZw9Vhu.jpg

fucking millennials.



Griffin had appeared to "like" an Instagram post that ripped Washington, owner Dan Snyder and the front office while lauding Griffin. However, the quarterback later posted his own message to social media, saying the "like" came from an intern who helps with Instagram.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13555094/robert-griffin-iii-blames-intern-instagram-post-ripped-washington-redskins

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"my account was hacked", yes. but intern?

griff needs to pretty much stay off his phone this week unless it's his agent calling with a trade.

It was a match doomed to fail, as if they were in a constant competition to out douchebag each other.

but I also thought like he seemed reasonably savvy and smart.

nope.

Dude sitting somewhere like.. I tried to tell yall

but damn if this guy doesn't live in a narcissistic wonderland. thing is, he *realizes* this -- otherwise there wouldn't be all the personal backpedaling and blame-shifting when this stuff happens -- but continues to do it.

must be that insulated Baylor/Waco experience that gave him a God complex.

We are clowning RG3 for the same reason people are bigging up Mike Vick in the other post. Displaying a strong character with consistency on the field will make people root for you and being an overrated fuckface ass loser will make people laugh when you fall.

everywhere else tho

why are you so mad?

Not to eulogize his career just yet, b/c I believe (and hope) that RG3's story isn't over yet, but even if he never starts another game again, we'll always have 2012—simply one of the most electrifying rookie seasons ever in the NFL.

Greg Howard summed it up well: http://deadspin.com/rgiii-almost-saved-washington-and-then-he-didnt-1727780577

Sure, you could have a solid Matt Cassel-like journeyman career and fade away into oblivion. But they're not gonna make a 30 for 30 about Matt Cassel. (And you just know there will be one about Bobby Three Stacks.)

Farewell Robert. I wanted you to succeed, even as recently as a week ago, but it's time to move on.

I'm a fan of the team. Players come and go. "It's Kirk's team," said our hapless coach. So I support Kirk.

HTTR