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2467401, What two cities would you like to see awarded NBA expansion teams?
Posted by John Forte, Thu Jul-23-15 08:54 AM
Seattle is the obvious number 1 choice. After that, I have:

Las Vegas
Louisville
Pittsburgh
Kansas City

Montreal would be nice, but if players didn't want to be in Toronto of Vancouver, there's no way they'd want to be in FRENCH Canada. What are some other wildcards? VA Beach? Columbus? Chicago?
2467404, Vegas. that's it. really they need to contract 2 teams imo
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jul-23-15 09:00 AM
and fix the playoff system so the wackass east dont have 8 teams.
2467407, Each conference gets 8 teams. be mad
Posted by John Forte, Thu Jul-23-15 09:02 AM
2467414, with the exception of okc this year...i can't think of a team that missed
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jul-23-15 09:17 AM
the playoffs that had any chance at winning the whole thing.
2467437, Tim Donaghy squashed the possibility of Vegas ever having a team
Posted by guru0509, Thu Jul-23-15 10:05 AM
>and fix the playoff system so the wackass east dont have 8
>teams.
2467405, none.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jul-23-15 09:01 AM
2467429, ^^^ contraction
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jul-23-15 09:47 AM
Charlotte
Sacramento
and Minnesota

gun to my head for a 2nd EC team

Toronto

fuck 'em

they never did shit, and never will.
2467436, Yes, contract the team that's opening a new arena next year
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jul-23-15 10:02 AM
2467446, is that the field of dreams business model?
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jul-23-15 10:34 AM
2467452, No
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jul-23-15 10:49 AM
2467541, CONTRACTION! Too many damned teams as it is.
Posted by Creole, Thu Jul-23-15 03:23 PM
So, I agree with ya here.
2467962, Yep
Posted by Selassie I God, Sat Jul-25-15 02:56 AM
2467419, uh, Seattle?
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Jul-23-15 09:24 AM
Sonics should have never left in the first place.

After them I'll say Las Vegas. I hope we get some kind of pro team here. There's been talk of building a huge multi use stadium here for at least a decade. Vegas not only wants a pro team, they want to be able to host a Super Bowl.
2467431, vegas aint got no dam fanbase...id say seattle or kansas city
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jul-23-15 09:48 AM
2467492, NBA Summer League (July)
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Jul-23-15 12:50 PM
USA Basketball (August)
UNLV MBB (Winter)

If loves anything, it's hoops and MMA. And there's definitely money for a stadium.
There's definitely a fan base here that could support a professional team.
Vegas was real close to landing an NHL team.
2467507, NBA season is mostly tourist offseason though
Posted by MothershipConnection, Thu Jul-23-15 01:25 PM
Summer league is in the middle of tourist season so it's perfect for fans who both wanna catch a game and party at night and are already out there or can make a destination of it. The NBA regular season runs from November to April though when the place mostly deadens out minus some big holiday weekends... they aren't going to get a big bump in attendance from tourists who want something to do on a Tuesday in February. UNLV basketball definitely gets decent interest but it's definitely closer to a smaller market in size (about the same metro population as Sacramento) and it's not like they'd start poaching fans from neighboring states since CA/AZ/UT are already covered.

That being said I really really want to see the crazy home court advantage a Las Vegas NBA team would have from opposing players out all night before.
2467564, yea thats what i was thinking
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Jul-23-15 06:49 PM
some january/february games are gonna be empty.


Theyd really have to be about the experience and building a great, fun crowd/fan experience at the arena an dthen if they could draft that one transcendent star....
2467630, Good points.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Fri Jul-24-15 09:55 AM
2467685, nba players go out all night in every city...vegas aint getting no team
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Jul-24-15 11:47 AM
theres alot more to it than jus no fanbase.... gambling, organized crime etc..are all factors as to why they aint never gettin a team
2467892, Certainly no MLB or NFL team.
Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Fri Jul-24-15 07:00 PM
2467432, St Louis, only because the jerseys would be sweet!
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jul-23-15 09:49 AM
2nd would be Pittsburgh for the same reason

but seriously

there's too many teams now

expansion is a terrible idea.
2467442, Dude I would LOVE to be a baller in Montreal, fucking adore it
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jul-23-15 10:16 AM
You see the type of bad broads they got up there?

But nah I don't think Montreal is even in serious contention.

When I look at it, the sites all kind of suck. Moving a fledgling franchise to Seattle would be the ideal move.

KC ain't getting shit, they built that arena for nothing.

Pittsburgh's hockey arena is great but ultimately it's a small-ish and somewhat fickle market.

VA Beach and Louisville strike me as very strange choices.

Vegas is very likely to get an NHL team but I don't think the NBA will do it. If anything they will let Bettman feel out the waters then jump in after him well into the future.

I personally have not heard a second Chicago team being discussed. Seems like an iffy proposition but might work. Columbus is like a poorer, smaller Vegas. Lots of go-through residents rather than go-to and stay-at residents. The Blue Jackets have an OK baseline of support but nothing too solid. If you ain't OSU, no one really cares.
2467506, Louisville is one of the biggest markets without a pro team
Posted by John Forte, Thu Jul-23-15 01:17 PM
It's already got the Yum! Center and a big-time corporate sponsor.
2467512, Is that true? There's less than a million people in Louisville
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jul-23-15 01:40 PM
Like 800K tops, OK throw another 500K in the surrounding area. I always think pulling from not-so-distant big markets is a weak selling point, but I guess Cincinnati is less than two hours away (much closer than it is to Cleveland).

It's very average in terms GMP and GMP per capita, I mean when I hear "the only game in town" I think that's attractive in a place like San Jose but not so much in a place like Birmingham, which is pretty close to Louisville in terms of population and the broadest economic stats.

2467518, apparently it's a big city/small market situation
Posted by John Forte, Thu Jul-23-15 01:53 PM
28th largest city, but the 50th largest market
2467661, yup, i dont see the appeal. yum center is big but decked out for NBA?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jul-24-15 11:03 AM
huge capacity for hoops and i know it had some luxury boxes, suites, etc ... but i dont know that it was built with the NBA in mind.

to me an expansion seems unnecessary on SO many levels.
2467443, Seattle & Vegas. nm
Posted by Binlahab, Thu Jul-23-15 10:17 AM

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg
2467447, Seattle & St. Louis
Posted by RexLongfellow, Thu Jul-23-15 10:34 AM
If Vegas couldn't handle the All-Star game, then handling a pro team would just be crazy (the team would have a DECISIVE home court advantage though)

From what my boys told me, Montreal is an unbelievable place (the Knicks and Celtics play pre-season ball games there...see all types of players end their marriages on the low...lol). But if players are complaining about playing in Toronto (which is a better city, especially sports wise), then Montreal has no hope.

Having a team in Baltimore might be interesting. Bring back the old Bullets and have a little I295 rivalry going
2467488, 2 new teams? I dunno fam, shit's already spread thin
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Jul-23-15 12:41 PM
but if they added any, Seattle has to be one of them

no ideas on the other one. I think most of the places thirsting for B-Ball have a team

2467514, the quality of play is *finally* catching up, so they have to wreck it
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jul-23-15 01:43 PM
NHL doing this bullshit, too. I would not be surprised to see a lot of connection. I think if Seattle can get two teams into one building it would influence the NHL's decision. Right now there are only two legitimate candidates, Quebec City and Vegas. I am disappointed there, too, it's already tough enough with the salary cap to maintain a good team, now they are thinning the talent pool further.
2467502, STL, ho!
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-23-15 01:08 PM
2467509, 1. Seattle 2. San Diego 3. Pittsburgh 4. Baltimore 5. Nashville
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Thu Jul-23-15 01:31 PM
I've heard too many things about Vegas and how gambling is the reason no major leagues will start a franchise there. It really is purely a tourist city...and a city for folks tired of paying L.A. prices for homes.
2467522, San Diego aint never happening
Posted by cantball, Thu Jul-23-15 02:12 PM
And it's a bad idea.


Rather see Vegas or St Louis
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2467552, SD can work when the Chargers leave.
Posted by Jesse Badgreen, Thu Jul-23-15 04:31 PM
2467686, SD would happen before vegas
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Jul-24-15 11:48 AM
2467893, San Diego is a more legit city than Vegas. Vegas all tourist shit
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Fri Jul-24-15 07:02 PM
Nobody even wants to live in that shit, it's wack. The strip gets old 3 weeks after moving there
2467519, Montreal
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-23-15 01:55 PM
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2467525, THE LOU!!!! I'm still hurt from when we almost got the Grizzlies
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jul-23-15 02:14 PM
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2467538, None. Relocation, sure
Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jul-23-15 03:10 PM
Silver already said many teams "are not making money" (obviously a CBA leverage play, there are a shit ton of accounting methods to play with revenue, as needed)...so I use that and say hell no to expansion, relocate those teams which are deepest in the red to the citiesy with the best plan and highest potential for revenue.
2467539, Damn. Why did I forget the grizzlies used to be in Vancouver?
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Jul-23-15 03:12 PM
Were they that forgetful?
2467545, http://media.tumblr.com/f28f8ec06ac5cfe3e165e6f86c49ab32/tumblr_inline_mpc5k683Pn1qz4rgp.jpg
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jul-23-15 03:40 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/f28f8ec06ac5cfe3e165e6f86c49ab32/tumblr_inline_mpc5k683Pn1qz4rgp.jpg
2467547, It was only for five years
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jul-23-15 03:45 PM
2467544, RE: What two cities would you like to see awarded NBA expansion teams?
Posted by murph71, Thu Jul-23-15 03:36 PM


Seattle
Las Vegas

or

Pittsburgh
Kansas City
2467548, Seattle, Baltimore, Austin
Posted by zigbfree, Thu Jul-23-15 03:57 PM
Seattle - No Brainer
Baltimore - Because I live here
Austin - Just an excuse to go visit there again
2467550, Austin doesn't happen for the same reason Baltimore doesn't
Posted by John Forte, Thu Jul-23-15 04:12 PM
too close to a bigger market.
2467551, They'll get one eventually (they're close to an NHL franchise) but Vegas
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jul-23-15 04:14 PM
is going to be a disaster. Unless the team is winning right away, they're going to be dead last in attendance by year 4.
2467896, These folks can NOT live on the West Coast and frequent Vegas like me
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Fri Jul-24-15 07:04 PM
Like, it's seriously somewhere you go to party, and...that's where it stops. A lotta folks moved there 15 years ago because it was cheap, then realized the shit was deceiving. Barely any corporate jobs, and hard to really have legit positions at Casinos. High crime rate. Overly immoral as shit. Just not really a great city at all.
2467556, Seattle, Montreal, Pittsburgh, but thoughts on Maine or VT?
Posted by Jon, Thu Jul-23-15 05:03 PM
2467662, Maine or Vermont? A professional sports franchise? LMAO
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jul-24-15 11:03 AM
2467563, Seattle, Vegas, Lexington/Louisville
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Jul-23-15 06:47 PM
2467565, I bet all those cardinals fans would go to NBA games
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Thu Jul-23-15 06:55 PM
2467602, RE: I bet all those cardinals fans would go to NBA games
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Fri Jul-24-15 12:10 AM
Has the general culture of St. Louis changed enough to support an NBA team?

The sentiment about ten years ago was that the NBA was 'too Black' to attract enough support from the community.

2467610, I think he meant Louisville
Posted by John Forte, Fri Jul-24-15 08:11 AM
2467707, nah st louis cardinals fans
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Fri Jul-24-15 12:19 PM
2467687, eh, generally moving into a college market=LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jul-24-15 11:52 AM
Massive L.

The prices are different, the style of play is different, there are fewer white players, etc.

2467709, mlb cards bro
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Fri Jul-24-15 12:21 PM
Most of their crowds look 60 and over and WHITE!
2467954, I also thought you were talking about Louisville
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat Jul-25-15 01:01 AM
St Louis is an iffy sports market. The Cardinals are uniquely successful organization and the baseball culture is strong in St Louis. The Rams might leave and the Blues have come close in the past. I look more at the overall market than the one really successful team in it.

As far as whiiiiiiiiiiteness, yeah, look at the Cards' lineup and manangement of late. Once home to Bob Gibson, Curt Flood, Willie McGee, Ozzie Smith, et al, it's pretty whiiiiiiiiite now. This was the place that lost its (very successful) basketball team because they weren't accepting of a black starting five.
2467566, Philadelphia
Posted by Lach, Thu Jul-23-15 06:58 PM
2467608, Nice
Posted by bshelly, Fri Jul-24-15 07:59 AM
2467631, lmao
Posted by Cenario, Fri Jul-24-15 09:57 AM
2467663, hehehehehe
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jul-24-15 11:04 AM
2467704, Seattle and Omaha. I love Seattle and I'm selfish.
Posted by Nodima, Fri Jul-24-15 12:05 PM
If I'm not being a homer, for entertainment value I think Vegas would probably be the most hilarious.


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2468221, San Diego and San Juan
Posted by calij81, Mon Jul-27-15 11:08 AM
Once the Chargers leave for LA I think San Diego would be a great city for a NBA team.

2468723, San Diego is a suck sports city period, though a great city overall.
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jul-28-15 10:23 PM
The NBA is never going back there nor should they. I'd put a team in Mexico City first.