Vis-a-vis Shaq that is just the typical "nobody roots for Goliath" argument where he could not have possibly done enough. Overall he was the most dominant player IN THE WORLD for a while. I can't nitpick that. He still probably the guy I'd take at his best in the post-Jordan era over anyone else.

Pippen might have gone to a small school but he was a fifth overall pick, not exactly under the radar.