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2458301, oh btw: mike d'antoni's offense just won a title.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Fri Jun-19-15 01:33 PM
mad?

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The Golden State Warriors won an NBA title on Tuesday pushing the pace, launching 3s and starting a 6-foot-6 'center.' Associate head coach Alvin Gentry, who will make Anthony Davis' New Orleans Pelicans more fun next season, excitedly credited Phoenix Suns head coach Mike D'Antoni while celebrating. Gentry served under D'Antoni during the seven-seconds-or-less era, and he hasn't forgotten all the crazy criticism that coaching staff received for the sort of outside-the-box thinking that completely changed the game.

From ESPN's Ethan Sherwood Strauss:

@SherwoodStrauss
Victorious Gentry: "Tell Mike D'Antoni he's vindicated! We just kicked everyone's ass playing the way everybody complained about!"
11:53 PM - 16 Jun 2015

Gentry elaborated to Bleacher Report's Howard Beck:

“I would say this is vindication for Mike D’Antoni, if nothing else. We played like he’s been trying to get this league to play forever, and you can win a championship like that. So for all the people that said you can’t win a championship being a three-point shooting team and not really a low-post presence or anything like that, we just did it. So I think it's great for Mike D’Antoni.”

Asked postgame about Stephen Curry breaking the mold for a transformative player, Golden State head coach Steve Kerr referenced D'Antoni and Steve Nash's Suns, too. "Steve was kind of the original Steph Curry," he said, adding that he thought Phoenix was going to win a title that way.

"I think Steve kind of laid out a vision for a whole generation of young point guards," Kerr said. "And with the game changing, Mike D'Antoni kind of initiating that style in Phoenix, the floor starting to spread, the whole league kind of playing shooting 4s and 5s and playing a little faster, I think Mike and Steve in many ways set the table for Steph Curry. And I think Steph would tell you that, too."

Kerr told ESPN that the Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs, with their spacing and shooting, had already vindicated D'Antoni. For some, that is certainly true, but the Warriors winning means much more. To the Charles Barkleys of the world, the Heat's system wasn't relevant because they had LeBron James on the roster. The same goes for the Spurs and Tim Duncan. Golden State just won the Larry O'Brien trophy with Curry breaking 3-point shooting records alongside four 6-6 to 6-7 guys in the starting lineup. Fans of those Phoenix teams should have smiles on their faces, and it's not just because of Leandro Barbosa finally winning a ring.
2458303, too bad his defense didn't exist in these (or any) finals
Posted by Cenario, Fri Jun-19-15 01:34 PM
2458304, oh btw: Tex Winter/Phil Jackson's offense led the Knicks to 17-65
Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Jun-19-15 01:35 PM
Mad?

2458305, That's cool. But they also had the best defense in the league.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jun-19-15 01:38 PM
Something D'Antoni never had.
2458308, RE: oh btw: mike d'antoni's offense just won a title.
Posted by murph71, Fri Jun-19-15 01:57 PM



Did Mike's defense win a title as well?
2458309, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mecwb2rG1w1rrr2r7o1_250.gif
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Jun-19-15 02:04 PM
>Asked postgame about Stephen Curry breaking the mold for a
>transformative player, Golden State head coach Steve Kerr
>referenced D'Antoni and Steve Nash's Suns, too. "Steve was
>kind of the original Steph Curry," he said, adding that he
>thought Phoenix was going to win a title that way.
>
>"I think Steve kind of laid out a vision for a whole
>generation of young point guards," Kerr said. "And with the
>game changing, Mike D'Antoni kind of initiating that style in
>Phoenix, the floor starting to spread, the whole league kind
>of playing shooting 4s and 5s and playing a little faster, I
>think Mike and Steve in many ways set the table for Steph
>Curry. And I think Steph would tell you that, too."

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mecwb2rG1w1rrr2r7o1_250.gif
2458310, ironically Kerr blew up D'antoni's system in PHX with the Shaq trade
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Jun-19-15 02:14 PM
>Asked postgame about Stephen Curry breaking the mold for a
>transformative player, Golden State head coach Steve Kerr
>referenced D'Antoni and Steve Nash's Suns, too. "Steve was
>kind of the original Steph Curry," he said, adding that he
>thought Phoenix was going to win a title that way.

because he didn't think the Suns could beat Duncan and the Spurs and win a title that way.
2458315, Facts, but they can't see past Pringles
Posted by Marauder21, Fri Jun-19-15 02:25 PM
2458318, It's Not About That
Posted by RexLongfellow, Fri Jun-19-15 02:36 PM
Nobody had a problem with his offense
EVERYBODY had a problem with his defense

GS won with the best offense AND the best defense in the league.

When Woodson coached the Knicks, he even took from D'Antoni's offense. Woodson then brought veterans and a defensive presence, something that everyone was saying was wrong with Pringles

This is the dude in Phoenix that didn't want to hire Thibs as an assistant coach for defense. Doc did and he won a title.
2458363, Plenty of people hated his approach to offense
Posted by Marauder21, Fri Jun-19-15 06:16 PM
"You can't win shooting jumpers," "They need a traditional post-up game," that BS.
2458406, It would have been more palatable if they pla6ed defense.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Jun-19-15 09:13 PM
I mean people said the same thing about gs offense, yet they were the favorite in every round. When those jumpers arent falling, you gotta be able to get stops. Dantoni teams could never do that.
2458448, The Finals MVP of the series was an awful shooter
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Jun-20-15 09:16 AM
He was an athletic rough and tumble defensive
wing

Klay Thompson, maybe the 2nd best shooter in the league,
was a non-factor

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2458718, nobody? lol, revisionism on the fly, i love it.
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sun Jun-21-15 03:02 AM
2458324, not to mention, its not terrible to shoot alot of 3's when you have the best
Posted by Cenario, Fri Jun-19-15 02:50 PM
3pt shooting backcourt in the league.

D'antoni would try to force fit the same thing on a team with terrible 3pt shooters

And not care about defense obviously.
2458325, if only he had a clue how to coach defense and not alienate his players
Posted by DJR, Fri Jun-19-15 02:51 PM
2458326, Guinness somewhere dancing
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Jun-19-15 02:54 PM
2458329, DUANE!!!
Posted by dula dibiasi, Fri Jun-19-15 02:57 PM
https://youtu.be/mGvdVXxFkY4
2458341, LMAO!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!! "Duane!!!" came in and caught me off guard...
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Jun-19-15 03:32 PM
I wasn't ready for her to yell it at that point.
2458476, https://www.facebook.com/ShaadowSefiroth/videos/948721308492049/
Posted by LegacyNS, Sat Jun-20-15 12:45 PM
like dis..

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2458332, whatever, no one disputed he had some good ideas offensively
Posted by Kungset, Fri Jun-19-15 03:01 PM
he's a bad coach though
2458417, Championship coach just lauded D'Antoni...
Posted by BSharp, Fri Jun-19-15 10:10 PM
...oh but he a bad coach tho.
2458533, Steph Curry lauded Mark Jackson this year
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Jun-20-15 03:05 PM

Not sure what the problem is here

And Lebron has lauded Mike Brown on multiple occasions

We only trust positive opinions about white coaches, tho
2458335, already brought up but no one ever had beef w/ d'antoni's offense.
Posted by PROMO, Fri Jun-19-15 03:09 PM
the problem is d'antoni literally can't coach (or find an assistant that could) coach defense or figure out a way to integrate a defensive philosophy that worked with said offense. Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr did.
2458336, ^^^^^^
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Jun-19-15 03:17 PM
>the problem is d'antoni literally can't coach (or find an
>assistant that could) coach defense or figure out a way to
>integrate a defensive philosophy that worked with said
>offense. Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr did.
2458350, exactly. Mark Jackson made sure they committed to defense
Posted by Mr. ManC, Fri Jun-19-15 04:16 PM
so that when this D'Antoni style was added, they didn't play on just one end of the floor.

2458447, Jackson's most successful team? Indiana Pacers
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Jun-20-15 08:52 AM
One of the toughest teams we've seen since
the Bad Boy Pistons

He so obviously brought that tough attitude to
Golden State

Jackson is the one fouling aggressively refusing
to let Houston get the 3point record

He's a tough coach. And THAT attitude is as much of the
reason Golden State is great

If he was white, we'd say it
2458337, great! where was he? n/m
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Jun-19-15 03:17 PM
2458338, haha
Posted by Cenario, Fri Jun-19-15 03:18 PM
2458389, making adjustments...to that nice John Deere riding mower he got.
Posted by Castro, Fri Jun-19-15 08:43 PM
2458344, usually you coon, THEN you get the job.
Posted by Mr. ManC, Fri Jun-19-15 03:56 PM
he hustling backwards. This that "please don't take Anthony Davis away" level Apollo stump-rubbing.

2458346, out of line, dogg.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Fri Jun-19-15 04:02 PM
seriously.
2458348, lol ok maybe I took it too far.
Posted by Mr. ManC, Fri Jun-19-15 04:14 PM
let me refine my comment.

I'm from North Carolina, and to me, the inventor of "fast break basketball" will forever be John McClendon. Now I would hope Gentry is familiar with this man and his work but to heap praise on D'Antoni? Meh, hits a little weak when there are so many other contributing parts to that narrative and style.

I got respect for Gentry too, and think he will do well in New Orleans, just struck me as odd to go out of your way to give a coach not with the organization props for this championship NOT named Mark Jackson.

2458359, ^^^^these mofos don't hear you though - D'Antoni ain't invent shit
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Jun-19-15 05:52 PM
nor did Paul Westhead

I gives less than two fux how much credit ppl try to give them

Better change that post title and talk abt McClendon's contributions to modern day basketball





>I'm from North Carolina, and to me, the inventor of "fast
>break basketball" will forever be John McClendon.







>Now I would
>hope Gentry is familiar with this man and his work but to heap
>praise on D'Antoni? Meh, hits a little weak when there are so
>many other contributing parts to that narrative and style.

2458364, why would he thank Mark Jackson though?
Posted by Kungset, Fri Jun-19-15 06:38 PM
D'Antoni is obviously his boy, and he's shouting him out. it's not that deep
2458378, thats fine, thats his boy.
Posted by Mr. ManC, Fri Jun-19-15 08:31 PM
But I woulda rather he patted himself on the back, or said "no one thought this style would work" cause it aint like Gentry aint get laid off trying his own point guard mentality ideology.

Just seemed like a stretch. And he aimt got to give Jackson credit cause D'Antoni's his homie. But if you gonna give him credit then it shouldn't be seen as a huge stretch the influence Jackson had on this team to help make them champions.

2458857, i think you need to relax in your approach to this situation
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Mon Jun-22-15 04:18 AM
you sound, dare i say, mad?
2458345, The guy Mike D'Antoni benched was 2nd team all NBA this year.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jun-19-15 03:56 PM
2458404, shame on you dula
Posted by bshelly, Fri Jun-19-15 09:06 PM
Look how many feelings you hurt.
2458445, Remember when Pringles made Carmelo point forward?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Jun-20-15 08:26 AM

And lauding his ball handling and passing ability?

Remember how mad OKS got?

So now we can go ahead and give Carmelo that respect

I'm enjoying this now
2458856, What respect is that? That he was a D grade Pippen for a losing team?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Mon Jun-22-15 04:17 AM
Reaching is one thing but these non-existent connections are another.
2458532, *ctrl-F* "Nelly ball"
Posted by Riot, Sat Jun-20-15 02:52 PM
Hmmmm