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|Topic subject||...you come at the Kang, you best not miss...Cave/Hawks: ECF Game 2|
2448609, ...you come at the Kang, you best not miss...Cave/Hawks: ECF Game 2|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 07:19 PM
Kyrie out, Demarre back (at what strength?) and Bron wanted by CPS for questioning in the abuse of Paul Millsap. Expect some kind of goofy, defense by committee shit on Bron tonight. Shump puts the clamps on Teague's Captain Phillips extra lookin ass and the Cavs effectively end the series tonight with a strong game from the Kang and solid contributions from J Arruh and Try-Hard Tristan.
2448610, big night from 3 by dellavedova picking up where jr left off.|
Posted by tingum, Fri May-22-15 07:24 PM
2448611, Demarre's agent needs to be arrested. Him playing is insane|
Posted by bshelly, Fri May-22-15 07:25 PM
2448654, They should have put a cap on his minutes.|
Posted by Castro, Fri May-22-15 10:20 PM
2448612, damn, Bron punishing these dudes|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 08:13 PM
2448614, RE: damn, Bron punishing these dudes|
Posted by murph71, Fri May-22-15 08:17 PM
With Carrol hobbled there's literally no one to half way guard him....James scoring 40 plus tonight....Easily....
2448615, blame bazemore lol...|
Posted by CyrenYoung, Fri May-22-15 08:28 PM
..dude is wild.
good to see him confident, but he don't want it wit' bron.
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2448618, Someone got Jones and Shump towelettes. Js looking MOISTENED|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri May-22-15 09:02 PM
Dare I say ... h-wet?
2448622, Dammit man.....|
Posted by Doc Catalyst, Fri May-22-15 09:05 PM
So concerned about Bron they're giving up looks on 3's.
2448623, mozgov is massive. i cant believe he only billed at 256 lbs|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri May-22-15 09:06 PM
2448624, Pero Antic has to sit the rest of the series.|
Posted by Kira, Fri May-22-15 09:08 PM
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU HARM KANG.
Silver has to ban him for the series.
2448625, SWEEP THE LEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 09:08 PM
2448626, ion't know if the warriors can fuck w/ them bath salts...|
Posted by 2.tears.in.a.bucket, Fri May-22-15 09:12 PM
2448631, warriors are everything folks pretended the hawks were. and more...|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri May-22-15 09:20 PM
2448685, still don't have Lebron James tho, he's not gonna be denied this chip|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-23-15 06:41 AM
2448627, The Hawks came at the Kang...and they're missing...and missing....|
Posted by vee-lover, Fri May-22-15 09:12 PM
and missing....and missing some more
2448629, LOL!!! That was clean as fuck.|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 09:16 PM
2448630, refs trying to make this a series.|
Posted by tingum, Fri May-22-15 09:17 PM
2448632, aw damn korver down. shit is over.|
Posted by 2.tears.in.a.bucket, Fri May-22-15 09:21 PM
2448633, Bron and the Cavs hitting that extra gear like game 6 vs Chicago|
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri May-22-15 09:22 PM
Atl cannot match it. Stick a fork in em.
2448636, Really unfortunate we won't get to see draymond on Kevin love |
Posted by guru0509, Fri May-22-15 09:27 PM
But this cavs team is a buncha dogs. Should be a great finals
2448637, Bazemore gettin his head busted, lol|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 09:27 PM
2448641, 30,11,9 - Kang|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 09:49 PM
2448642, RE: And that's on cruise control after the Cavs got out to a double |
Posted by vee-lover, Fri May-22-15 09:51 PM
digit lead midway through the 3rd...
2448645, right...dude on the bench dapping up Usher with the game in hand|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 09:55 PM
2448643, and people still hate on Lebron because?|
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Fri May-22-15 09:52 PM
2448646, i seriously dont get it|
Posted by seasoned vet, Fri May-22-15 09:56 PM
2448648, only thing I can see when they be goin at it on here...|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 10:01 PM
is if someone says "Lebron is better than _______". Guys who ride for ________, make it their life's mission to diminish everything he does. Be it Kobe, Jordan or whoever.
2448671, lol exact.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-23-15 12:20 AM
>is if someone says "Lebron is better than _______". Guys who
>ride for ________, make it their life's mission to diminish
>everything he does. Be it Kobe, Jordan or whoever.
What I love is that cats on here spend more time hating on Lebron than they do being fans and supporting the teams/players they actually like.
It's a special kind of troll.
2448670, for the same reason people irrationally hate on Floyd|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-23-15 12:19 AM
They don't appreciate anomalous greatness that will never be seen again. Ever.
Except in Bron's case - the hate is beyond bizarre because he's an exemplary family man, champion in every community he's in in terms of outreach and consistently being a genuine, believable positive role model.
His 'sin' was leaving a dysfunctional franchise and leaving his home town to experience new challenges and to become a better man and basketball player in South Beach where he played with one of his best friends.
He didn't rape anybody. Didn't physically abuse women. Never has been in trouble. Just goes out there and plays basketball in the purest way possible.
People just hate life in general, so naturally they'd hate anything that is reflective of what's good in the world, including the indelible Unified Field Theory in Motion known as Lebron James.
2448673, RE: leaving a dysfunctional franchise|
Posted by seasoned vet, Sat May-23-15 12:43 AM
i dont know where these die hard sports types come up with these bylaws about what one can and cant do in sports
i applaud LBJ taking charge of his own destiny
i stopped being a team fan back in 1994
2448647, Man this gives the Cavs time to rest Kyrie - no need to even play him in|
Posted by vee-lover, Fri May-22-15 10:00 PM
the next two gms...
I think the basketball gods wanna see Kyrie vs Steph too
They said Kyrie flew down to Florida to get some treatment and that he didn't make the injury any worse in the last gm
Hopefully w/time to rest he can at least get to abt 70-75% by the time the finals begin
2448650, yeah...Kyrie should be in a suit until June 4th|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-22-15 10:05 PM
2448653, i'm there, too|
Posted by Basaglia, Fri May-22-15 10:10 PM
2448672, Unfortunately, we won't be treated to Ky v. Steph as it should be.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-23-15 12:22 AM
I just hope he can be out there if we advance to the Finals and hit a few jumpers and play some meaningful minutes.
He won't magically get better in 10 days. He likely won't even be 50%.
Cleveland is there to be beat now, and you better get them now - because if they come back fully healthy next year it's a real problem for the league.
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri May-22-15 10:03 PM
2448655, Bron a fucking computer|
Posted by Basaglia, Fri May-22-15 10:20 PM
2448682, they used to call him LeRobot (word to jambone)|
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat May-23-15 06:35 AM
2448656, Bron always cool with the fans. https://instagram.com/p/3AgPWnjBh0/|
Posted by j0510, Fri May-22-15 10:21 PM
2448658, bron beat these niggas like a drum with della reese by his side|
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri May-22-15 10:34 PM
2448680, bron delly jr new big 3|
Posted by bshelly, Sat May-23-15 06:03 AM
2448688, aww man ..if jr hits like a gw basket in the finals and gets |
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat May-23-15 07:00 AM
a ring tho??? yo!
2448660, LeBron James: Pretty good at basketball|
Posted by Rjcc, Fri May-22-15 11:03 PM
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2448662, Not that I've been hating...but uh, yeah. No hate for this at all. |
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-22-15 11:32 PM
2448669, *stretches out*|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-23-15 12:15 AM
Nothing even need to be set.
Prophecy unveiling in glorious fashion.
The Big 1 in CLE is kinda good.
2448679, No Kyrie.....|
Posted by murph71, Sat May-23-15 05:42 AM
no problem.....Bron James was licking his chops at this weak ass Atlanta squad....lol
Too bad Wall's hand wasn't right. That would have been the real battle....The basketball ball Gods must be a Cavs fan....
2448701, It's like you be posting from the Utah salt flats|
Posted by Basaglia, Sat May-23-15 08:54 AM
2448734, LMAO...did you just type this? |
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-23-15 02:57 PM
>The basketball ball Gods must be a Cavs
Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-23-15 02:58 PM
2448681, cruisin in the ATLLLLLLLL|
Posted by bshelly, Sat May-23-15 06:05 AM
Cruisin in the a t ellllleelllleellllellll
Posted by Musa, Sat May-23-15 06:41 AM
for the HAWKS this summer.
2448702, THE BAR HAS BEEN RAISED|
Posted by DJR, Sat May-23-15 09:07 AM
2448690, I thought Atlanta would at least make it close this game.|
Posted by B.J.S.301, Sat May-23-15 07:13 AM
Bron is not to be stopped.
Horford the only one really trying. That knee collision though with Shump....He's absolutely cooked.
Bron gonna be in the Finals with a ragtag bunch. Them dudes play hard for him.
2448691, Tristain Thompson tho...gotta give that boy some props|
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat May-23-15 07:21 AM
hes really stepped up...and will be rewarded for it next year...
2448757, he's the unsung hero....|
Posted by LegacyNS, Sat May-23-15 06:24 PM
2448698, Blatt has his team ready|
Posted by okayplayery, Sat May-23-15 08:40 AM
everybody stepping up, Coach of the Year who?
2448700, RE: Blatt has his team ready|
Posted by murph71, Sat May-23-15 08:48 AM
>everybody stepping up, Coach of the Year who?
Man get out of here with this bullshit...Blatt? Ha! LeBron James once took one of the worst "playoff" constructed teams early in his career to the Finals...
The only real competition for these Cavs was a Bulls team that struggled to score....Nah man...It's the greatness of James' all around game mixed with the wackness of the East....
2448706, Funny how Blatt gets the blame for losses but no credit for winning|
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-23-15 10:16 AM
Funny how that works
2448707, Same happens with McHale|
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat May-23-15 10:30 AM
2448709, The plight of 98% of professional coaches.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat May-23-15 10:39 AM
If you don't have a title, then wins are on the talent, and losses are on you. If you win a title or have won in the past, you will get consideration for making a difference.
Same is true of major conference NCAA coaches too, really. "But can he win you a title?" was asked of K, Cal, Self, Roy, etc. before each respectively won.
2448716, RE: The plight of 98% of professional coaches.|
Posted by murph71, Sat May-23-15 12:07 PM
That's not whats going on in this case...Someone got ahead of themselves on some "Coach of the Year who" shit...lol
And I simply called bullshit...I'm sure Blatt will be a good coach....But I believe that a once in a lifetime player like LeBron James is 90 percent of the reason why the Cavs are winning games they shouldn't be winning...
That all around game of his is on display....And in the weak ass East, Bron can basically write his own ticket with ANY team or coach to the Finals....
Mike Brown knows this...So does Boobie Gibson.....
2448728, I'm curious if people really think lebron wouldn't run the west too|
Posted by DJPoke, Sat May-23-15 02:16 PM
I mean you put lebron on any of the playoff teams out west and he's doing the same thing he's doing now in the east.
2448736, And just because the west is stacked moreso than the east doesn't|
Posted by vee-lover, Sat May-23-15 02:59 PM
mean that the Cavs couldn't beat those teams in a 7 gm series - it might take more gms than it did against the Cavs EC opponents but I think the way this Cavs team is playing D they could beat any of those teams in the west w/the exception of maybe GS and the Spurs....and if Bron had a healthy Kyrie and KLove I'd have him/Cavs as the favs against any team out west
>I mean you put lebron on any of the playoff teams out west
>and he's doing the same thing he's doing now in the east.
Posted by dula dibiasi, Sat May-23-15 05:53 PM
"I'm curious if people really think lebron wouldn't run the west too"
lebron's lost to the western conference champion in 3 out of 5 tries. in a month, that total will likely be 4 out of 6.
what evidence is there that makes you think he'd "run through the west" every year?
2448775, common sense?|
Posted by DJPoke, Sat May-23-15 08:14 PM
The teams out west are more stacked right?
I think yal are putting his east teams in the west. All I'm saying is if he was actually playing in the west on one of those superior teams (even if you swap out a star player with him) he would run the west. Can't believe I'm defending this dude but some of yal are ridiculous.
2448817, lulz. ok guy.|
Posted by dula dibiasi, Sat May-23-15 09:31 PM
he was 2 for 4 vs the west's best with wade, bosh and good role guys.
that's as stacked as anyone he'd be playing with out west.
if you're saying he'd have won the last 5 western conf finals
i'm gonna need a better argument than BUT DUDE HE'S LEBRON
unless you're just talking about adding him on top of an already-
existing west playoff roster without removing anyone? i.e. in
addition to *also still having* paul/griffin/jordan, conley/gasol/TA/z-bo,
i mean, in that case, yeah. of course. duh. that's a pretty silly hypothetical tho.
2448838, and you still don't get it.|
Posted by DJPoke, Sat May-23-15 09:58 PM
Posted by dula dibiasi, Sat May-23-15 10:05 PM
that's totally what happened here.
2448708, And how he basically turned an elite OFF team into|
Posted by Kajun, Sat May-23-15 10:39 AM
an elite DEF team in 3 weeks time due to injuries. The Cavs were a bottom half defensive team in the regular season, and now they look like the damn 04 Pistons.
Bron rightfully gets the most credit here, but Blatt has done an excellent job. The end of that one game was brutal, but it was ultimately a minor incident and has overshadowed a really terrific coaching job in these playoffs.
Now Bron makes so much of this possible with his all around amazingness, but the Blatt hate is really unwarranted at this point. In particular, the way he has used his (sketchy) bench is very creative.
2448710, right...and cats act like coaches don't grow and evolve for the better...|
Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-23-15 10:44 AM
this dude is learning, too. Learning, the game, his guys, himself...etc. That's why I laugh at the "Blatt is gone after this season contingency". For what? Unless they went 30-52 or some shit, no one is gonna keep re-booting with the head coach spot. Dude will be fine. Plus, he's got the best player in the galaxy to learn with.
2448719, I've learned to 'never say never' with the Cavs|
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat May-23-15 01:10 PM
>For what? Unless they went 30-52
>or some shit, no one is gonna keep re-booting with the head
but I do agree, it would be DUMB to let him go
I just hope this goes like everything else this season and the rumor spreaders look like straight fools.
2448732, Exactly. Bron gets the lion's share and Blatt deserves some as well |
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-23-15 02:40 PM
There's absolutely no doubt that Lebron has shaped the confidence of this team...his leadership and willingness to make the right play damn near every time feeds the entire team a whole lot of confidence. Parallel to that, Blatt as you said, has done a very good job of creating a defensive identity, managing the bench, and adjusting in-game to take away opposition strengths.
2448752, Did you say this when Mike Brown was doing as much with less? |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat May-23-15 06:04 PM
2448827, For the 2012 season, yes I did |
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-23-15 09:44 PM
He did a tremendous job that year...utilized the double post offense with Bynum and Pau, great team defense, grinded the game out. The problems arose in 2013.
2448711, very fair point|
Posted by bshelly, Sat May-23-15 10:45 AM
2448715, RE: Funny how Blatt gets the blame for losses but no credit for winning|
Posted by murph71, Sat May-23-15 11:59 AM
>Funny how that works
Blame? LeBron James....That's it....
I can see with my own eyes....James was the reason Boobie Gibson took up space in the NBA....What do u think he would do with a JR Smith?
I'm going to point to the exceptional talent that saved his mediocre to decent NBA coach who took a timeout in front of a ref that should have been called...
It starts with James and it ends with James....
2448731, So Blatt gets no credit for the def identity, adjustments, or bench rotation|
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-23-15 02:37 PM
Thanks for proving my point.
2448717, Blatt's done a fair job. Serviceable.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-23-15 12:09 PM
Love how cats' arguments shapeshift to try and fit their agenda tho. lol
So is it that the "Hawks suck bro" - or is that Blatt is doing a great job?
Just so we're clear.
The reason for this Cleveland turn around (people forget they were 19-20 & under .500 nearly mid-way through the season) is because of great GM moves bringing in Moz, and a brilliant trade to transform Waiters into Shump/JR (basically 2-for-1 in talent whereby both guys play distinctive, complementing roles).
And of course, the only reason this Cavs team is still in the playoffs is obviously clear:
Lebron James. After he came back from his break in Miami to get his body/mind right, he had not just a renewed physical spirit, but his heart/mind was locked in, and the Cavs were the most dominant team in the game from about the all-star break up until Love getting UFC'd on in game 4 of the first round and Ky's injuries rendering his lower body too gimpy to plant/explode, and do Ky-type things off the dribble.
He's done a fair job. But that's what you'd expect from a rookie coach who is brand spanking new to the NBA game. Give him time. He's got a very good supportive coaching staff who have done a nice job of acclimating him to the NBA game. It's also kinda nice to have the game's greatest genius orchestrating and leading on the court, processing plays and strategies at quantum speed in real time.
Bron is teaching Blatt, and Blatt's learning.
2448726, Can't it be all three?|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-23-15 01:46 PM
Bron gives Blatt such a great base to work from and such a versatile centerpiece, and obviously Bron is the best player in the world. Blatt has coached a lot of different teams in a lot of different situations, knows where to put the emphases and how to use his personnel under trying circumstances.
Even if you have some nitpicky shit to say about any of that, the Hawks unequivocally suck for a conference finalist. They have no consistent element of their game right now. A lot of it is Blatt's defensive strategy, he has forced them to play one-on-one a ton. Some of it is injuries, regardless of what Cleveland has going on (again their leaders carrying them through it), the Hawks are beat up now and can't recover as easily, not at all. Back end of their bench is wack and their front line guys are not performing.
So they are wack, Bron and Blatt are both playing a part in making them look wacker. Which is it? It's all three. That's why agendas are so foolish, as highlighted by ridiculous ones such as Steph vs Klay and Blake vs CP3.
2448730, There are no shades of grey under a troll's bridge |
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-23-15 02:36 PM
2448737, i thought it was confucious or chinese bol's login for a moment there|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-23-15 03:00 PM
Posted by guru0509, Sat May-23-15 05:47 PM
Posted by okayplayery, Sun May-24-15 03:09 PM
>The reason for this Cleveland turn around (people forget they
>were 19-20 & under .500 nearly mid-way through the season) is
>because of great GM moves bringing in Moz, and a brilliant
>trade to transform Waiters into Shump/JR (basically 2-for-1 in
>talent whereby both guys play distinctive, complementing
Blatt first told Griffin about his interest in Mozgov shortly after being hired, but the Cavaliers were rebuffed after making overtures to the Nuggets last summer. Cleveland sweetened the offer as the need for a rim protector became evident following Varejao’s Achilles injury. Denver, whose season had stalled, accepted two first-round picks for Mozgov and a second-round pick.
So Mozgov was Blatt's guy from the jump (coached him on a russian national team, which put Tim on the map), Blatt trusted Delly even when he was making mistakes, seamlessly incorporated JR and Shump and got his guys peaking at the right time the the 'offs.
Anti-Blatt agenda is a losing endeavor at this point. He's going to the Finals his first year. That's job security. And with this team it means titles. Multiple. Not bad for a first NBA coaching gig.
2448721, A Euro coach that knows how to use his bench? You don't say!|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-23-15 01:28 PM
You watch the game there and you see a lot more balanced minutes, a lot less fucks given about foul trouble, etc. It definitely has played into the challenges he is facing now.
2448753, A Euro league coach inherits team with two top 10 players? |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat May-23-15 06:05 PM
You don't say?
O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "
2448712, Their in game adjustments are magic|
Posted by bshelly, Sat May-23-15 10:47 AM
At least twice in the Bulls series and in game 1 here, they fell behind early and turned it on in the second quarter. It's not all effort based. Blatt, Lue, or whoever is doing something that addresses wrinkles in the other guy's gAmeplan and takes it away.
2448740, ATL got money to spend this summer. Let Milsap go, get a max player|
Posted by Lach, Sat May-23-15 03:55 PM
2448744, that'll fix it|
Posted by Basaglia, Sat May-23-15 05:00 PM
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-23-15 06:23 PM
2448784, what "fix all of our ills" max guy is out there?|
Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-23-15 08:41 PM