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2446419, And Chris Paul STILL ain't been out the 2nd round
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-17-15 04:52 PM
2446422, nobody shoud be mad at facts
Posted by Basaglia, Sun May-17-15 04:53 PM
2446424, Remix (ft. All Star Teammates & Championship Coach)
Posted by Ryan M, Sun May-17-15 04:54 PM
2446432, yup toe tag him.
Posted by tingum, Sun May-17-15 05:02 PM
2446433, CPPlea
Posted by Deebot, Sun May-17-15 05:03 PM
2446438, RE: And Chris Paul STILL ain't been out the 2nd round
Posted by murph71, Sun May-17-15 05:04 PM



U may have squeezed that trigger too soon....
2446440, they'll hang on if they keep it in af-am hands.
Posted by Basaglia, Sun May-17-15 05:06 PM
2446441, nah, they done
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-17-15 05:06 PM
.
2446477, i thought he went to the WCF with the hornets
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sun May-17-15 05:23 PM
fuck. that is sad.
he been around too long fa'dat.
2446479, Steph better.
Posted by mrhood75, Sun May-17-15 05:23 PM
2446481, Barnes, Crawford, JJ, Rivers, Davis......all sucked
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:24 PM
No depth. No bench. No SF on the roster.

Paul had 26 and 10.



2446484, Nobody cares. Make them better.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 05:25 PM
2446487, dumb
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:28 PM
2446500, Only if you love making up CPPleas
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 05:38 PM
2446520, nah, it's dumb
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:51 PM
He played very well all season, all playoffs.

Last year when he had those 2 late game turnovers that cost them a playoff game, he deserved criticism for that.

Not this year.
2446523, Just imagine all their names are "Dion Waiters"
Posted by Basaglia, Sun May-17-15 05:55 PM
2446796, ^slept-on multi 'genda ether
Posted by thejerseytornado, Mon May-18-15 11:43 AM

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Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious
2446524, He's been in the league 10 years. Been out the 2nd round 0 times.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 05:55 PM
That's that.

Point fingers all you want.

His team is good enough to win games until they aren't.

FOH.
2446526, 21 and 10 and 50%
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:56 PM
He was brilliant all season including the playoffs.
2446529, Bron put up way bigger numbers than that his first stint in CLE
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 06:02 PM
got roasted for not winning a 'chip (let alone getting to the conf. finals).

If CP3 wants to be mentioned in the same company as the Greats - deal with it.

If not, he can always be another nice player, like Melo.

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2446534, People were dumb then, so it's ok to be dumb here too
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 06:11 PM
Got it.
2446535, Basically. Dwight don't win. He gets roast. James don't win.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 06:11 PM
He gets roasted.

If Steph didn't win. He'd get roasted.

Same happens with Rose, Russ, Durant, Melo, and any other vet superstar.
2446536, should only happen when they play bad
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 06:13 PM
like Rondo. He deserved it.

2446540, Rondo didn't play. You're in your feelings right now.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 06:29 PM
Chris Paul should've played better than what he did, because it wasn't good enough.

You're arguing supporting cast against a team that starts Jason Terry and Josh Smith, and plays 40 yr old Prigioni coming off the bench.

AND anybody would say Doc is a much better coach than McHale.

Sooooooo?

Nobody cares about them excuses.
2446546, Yeah he did, but not really
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 06:37 PM
He played, sucked, quit on the court, and got booted off the team.

Paul played outstanding basketball.

The Rockets role players outplayed LA's badly, especially today. Not even close.
2446554, Lmao! So is this about Rondo & the Mavs or CPPlea & the Clipps!
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 06:48 PM
Cuz your hurt pussy is on display.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Cuz if it does I can surely stick my foot up Syracuse's ass.

Just let me know.,
2446570, it's about not being dumb
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 07:13 PM
Star players play well - don't be dumb and blame them for their team losing.

Star players play poorly - blame away.

Rondo was an incredibly obvious example of the second one this year, but you weirdly tried to slither out of it by claiming he "didn't play" so I had to address that.

2446573, No you are creating a diversion. You want me to talk about Rondo.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 07:19 PM
When we are clearly talking about CP3.

Then, what else do you want?

You want me to talk about Melo or Dion Waiters or Derrick Coleman too?

CP3 hasn't been out of the 2nd round. No excuses. Nobody want's to hear your sensitive ass crying.

I can understand you want to leverage CP3 into your "older supposed superstars who are not Lebron and don't have all the teammates they need to compete with Lebron" team.

But I don't give a fuck. James won. Dwight won. They have just as much if not less than the Clipps.
2446578, nah, I just like basketball
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 07:23 PM
I don't care about the Clippers, Rockets, CP3, Wake Forest, Rondo, etc. No dog in this fight.

I'm just trying to talk objectively about happened in the game without cats agenda-ing themselves stupid.

Paul played great basketball. The difference was in the performance of the role players. I realize that's not as much fun to talk about, but that's what happened.
2446582, No. Clippers, CP3's team choked a 3-1 series lead.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 07:35 PM
And choked to a team who had as good of if not worse a team than they did.

CP3 played an okay game. It was a great game for the regular season. Not a game 7 play the best game of your life to get to where you've never been game.

That was the long version.

But the short version is, CPPlea still ain't got out of the 2nd round.
2446961, RE: No. Clippers, CP3's team choked a 3-1 series lead.
Posted by DJR, Mon May-18-15 09:29 PM
>And choked to a team who had as good of if not worse a team
>than they did.

Brewer, Smith, Ariza, Jones >>>>Reddick, Barnes, Crawford

That was the difference. In terms of those versatile 6'5-6'9 types, the Clips have nothing. Rockets role players won them this series by badly outplaying their Clipper counterparts.



>CP3 played an okay game. It was a great game for the regular
>season. Not a game 7 play the best game of your life to get to
>where you've never been game.

26 and 10, he did all he could.

>That was the long version.
>
>But the short version is, CPPlea still ain't got out of the
>2nd round.

Team game.
2446489, Nobody wanna hear that LOGIC, son.
Posted by Hitokiri, Sun May-17-15 05:30 PM
How the fuck is Turkoglu on the bench for a championship contender?
2446490, they didnt have a bench until game 7 tonight?
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sun May-17-15 05:31 PM
does not compute
2446504, Exactly. Now it's a problem. FOH
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 05:40 PM
2446511, they didn't have a bench all season
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:45 PM
Anyone who paid attention knew that.

Huge hole. Huge hole at SF too. Not one good swingman type player on the roster.

That's why they're home in round 1-2 every year.
2446522, they beat the champs... up 3-1 on cruise control
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sun May-17-15 05:52 PM
and then they didnt have ANY depth?
please advise
2446525, top heavy team
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:55 PM
Paul was brilliant. Forgot the circumstances around them beating the champs already?

Too many holes. It will catch up at some point every time. On a team constructed like that the two stars have to be brilliant and the role players have to come through.

Paul was great. Blake was very good. The role players sucked.
2446509, Just stop it - the Clips were well on their way to the WCF w/a *19*
Posted by vee-lover, Sun May-17-15 05:45 PM
point lead in gm 6 on a team they had already beaten by WIDE MARGINS and not one person was complaining abt Paul not having a bench or no small forward prior to that gm 6, it appeared as if they were had enough to win it all (they got solid production from Awful Rivers for heaven's sake lol)..in fact, after they beat the Spurs, ppl had began saying they looked like the best team in playoffs as we saw how they were dismantling the Rockets

They CHOKED...and Paul will take a hit for that, fair or not


>No depth. No bench. No SF on the roster.
>
>Paul had 26 and 10.
>
>
>
>
2446513, dead wrong
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:47 PM
Anyone with a clue knew their bench and SF spot were weaknesses. Common knowledge.

How do you even come up with some of this shit?
2446847, ALL four teams left in the playoffs have weaknesses and whatever
Posted by vee-lover, Mon May-18-15 01:27 PM
weaknesses the Clips had no one felt that they would be a hindrance for them winning the title...especially after they beat the defending champs

Vegas had them as the odds on favorite to win the championship after they beat the Spurs and because of how they were looking against the Rockets in the first 4 gms of that series...


>Anyone with a clue knew their bench and SF spot were
>weaknesses. Common knowledge.
>
>How do you even come up with some of this shit?

It's called common sense
2446966, RE: ALL four teams left in the playoffs have weaknesses and whatever
Posted by DJR, Mon May-18-15 09:51 PM

>>Anyone with a clue knew their bench and SF spot were
>>weaknesses. Common knowledge.
>>
>>How do you even come up with some of this shit?
>
>It's called common sense
>


Common sense would tell you that when Matt Barnes is your only 6'7 swinngman type player on your roster, you've got a big hole.
2446551, All on Paul. Up 19? 3-1 lead? And you lost?
Posted by justin_scott, Sun May-17-15 06:45 PM
And one of the best coaches in the league? No excuse for Paul.
2446496, Skip the man, still going at him lol (swipe)
Posted by Lach, Sun May-17-15 05:36 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/600064544107581440
2446505, if you're on skip's side, you're probably on the wrong one
Posted by sndesai1, Sun May-17-15 05:40 PM
2446599, if I'm on the wrong side, I don't wanna be on the right
Posted by Lach, Sun May-17-15 07:50 PM
2446515, Skip's a moron
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 05:48 PM
He's a message board troll(right down to the 1.4 HS ppg) that got put on.
2446533, the replies are better than that tweet tho
Posted by Cenario, Sun May-17-15 06:09 PM
2446543, This one pic just LOL
Posted by B.J.S.301, Sun May-17-15 06:33 PM
https://twitter.com/3lone/status/600064857384194049/photo/1
2446598, yeah they're hilarious
Posted by Lach, Sun May-17-15 07:49 PM
2446530, And Deron STILL ain't better
Posted by Bombastic, Sun May-17-15 06:02 PM
No matter what happens from here, the dead carcass of that agenda left a mark as ugly and irreversible as that sewer-rat tat Derion got on his arm.
2446531, He said sewer rat tho
Posted by Amritsar, Sun May-17-15 06:05 PM
Lmao Christ
2446539, Pretty much. Shit, at least Chris Paul showed up.
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun May-17-15 06:22 PM
Deron... SMH. I don't think I've seen a sharper fall off than when he left the Jazz.
2446545, lol:
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 06:36 PM
>No matter what happens from here, the dead carcass of that
>agenda left a mark as ugly and irreversible as that sewer-rat
>tat Derion got on his arm.


-->
2446567, #PointGod
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 07:05 PM
2446571, LOL. nice
Posted by astralblak, Sun May-17-15 07:15 PM
.
2446580, Fair to fry BOTH of them.
Posted by Ryan M, Sun May-17-15 07:31 PM
2446596, Deron has lead a team to the conference finals, Chris Paul hasn't. Facts.
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-17-15 07:46 PM
2446612, A feat seen while Dubya was prez & Dee Brown was in the league. Fats.
Posted by Bombastic, Sun May-17-15 08:10 PM
2446613, Does it matter? They came in the league at the same time.
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-17-15 08:16 PM
.
2446629, Now that Poppin' Fresh Dildos is 13 & 6, 38% FG on a sub-.500 East team?
Posted by Bombastic, Sun May-17-15 08:56 PM
No, it definitely does not matter.......hasn't really mattered for this entire decade so far.
2446632, Deron has taken a team further and still has a better head-to-head...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-17-15 09:01 PM
record. Cry.
2446646, Cry over u editin to type out same crutch point u been usin for 8 years?
Posted by Bombastic, Sun May-17-15 09:36 PM
>record. Cry.

I mighta welled up a little bit but I did hold off from shedding a full-fledged tear.

It is kinda amazing to realize that Poison Pillsbury actually has a soldier lost in the jungle still believing he's at war long after their leader surrendered (like that Japanese Army dude who fought WWII until '72) but like the voters on any of this decade's All-NBA teams, we don't really spend much time thinking about DWont anymore.
2446671, I'm just saying pretty much EVERY PG that has been in the "Top 5"...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-17-15 11:50 PM
or "elite" convo in the last 10 years has led their team to a conference final EXCEPT for Chris Paul but because he has pretty stats he's been considered the best point guard in the NBA to majority of that time. It's not just Deron, you got Tony, Nash, Rondo, Rose, Westbrook, Conley, and now Curry and Kyrie.

And the "HELP" PLEA COP doesn't fly, Chris Paul has played with as much talent as anybody in New Orleans and now in LA.
2446665, this is just sad
Posted by astralblak, Sun May-17-15 11:21 PM
sad
2446751, CPPlea never got to play an 8 seed in the second round
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 10:23 AM
2446790, I know, first it was Byron's fault, then it was Vinny's fault, Doc better...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-18-15 11:29 AM
watch his back, CP3 is the new coach killer!
2446587, *punches everyone but DJR in the nuts*
Posted by Chris Paul, Sun May-17-15 07:41 PM
2446597, lol
Posted by guru0509, Sun May-17-15 07:46 PM
2446600, shit, LOL
Posted by DJR, Sun May-17-15 07:53 PM
2446603, Post
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 07:55 PM
2446614, LOFL
Posted by astralblak, Sun May-17-15 08:20 PM
.
2446709, haha
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 08:21 AM
2446710, LOL
Posted by Deebot, Mon May-18-15 08:21 AM
2446872, I was here... ROFL
Posted by mtbatol, Mon May-18-15 02:42 PM
2446595, Fair or not, the stars always get the major cred and major blame
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun May-17-15 07:45 PM
Comes with the territory.
2446604, I don't know why people wanna act brand new when seasons end.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun May-17-15 07:56 PM
2446615, People seem to have compassion for Paul for some reason
Posted by Lach, Sun May-17-15 08:21 PM
Him and Blake should get fried all offseason.
2446616, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFPb9PnUgAAe3fA.jpg
Posted by Lach, Sun May-17-15 08:22 PM
People got no chill LOL https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFPb9PnUgAAe3fA.jpg
2446666, the title is ehh execution, but the subtitle
Posted by astralblak, Sun May-17-15 11:22 PM
ohh my

A+
2446706, I love the internet
Posted by Amritsar, Mon May-18-15 08:00 AM
2446675, i aint lettin this ride..cp3 played his asss off bad hammies and all...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun May-17-15 11:58 PM
if rox woulda lost, same #STAYD12 niggas woulda been roastin him ..

Dumb
2446684, Obviously. But this much is true...
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-18-15 12:46 AM
You quit on your own team. So sad. Enjoy the Cavs.
2446690, Lebron been the best player for afew years now
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon May-18-15 01:09 AM
i recognize it...you still jockingbean...

good night nigga..see you tuesday so you can jock your division rival..

2446711, lol base.
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 08:23 AM
>if rox woulda lost, same #STAYD12 niggas woulda been roastin him .
2446758, when do we put parameters on all of the superlatives lauded on CP3
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 10:36 AM
he's the best this

he's the greatest that

blah blah blah

on the same board with a Bron plea cop post

FOH!

he's a really good PG that never wins in the playoffs

those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive

folks can't WAIT to fry Bron

who keeps winning

yet is the focus of so much ire

while CP3 never wins shit

but is coddled like a toddler

I seriously don't get it

he's not even a top 5 PG anymore

and his best days may be behind him.

2446770, he's not a top 5 pg?? i'm done with this convo already
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon May-18-15 10:55 AM
2446772, Steph, Russy, T5T = non-negotiable
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 11:02 AM
I'd allow arguments for #4

but IMO, PGs like 'Rie, Dame and Johnny aren't as far as off

as they would be if he actually was a top 10 all-time PG

seriously

MFers been in the league half as long

and done just as much, if not more

when does that count?

2446825, T5T, lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-18-15 12:38 PM
2446841, CP3 >>> 4X NBA champion and finals MVP (c) you
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 01:22 PM
OkayPlayer

WTF is going on in here?

MFers throw all logic out the window when it comes to CP3

porque?
2446996, Tony ain't top 5 right now, he might not be the best pg on his own team
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-19-15 08:09 AM
2447165, in the pantheon of PGs, you're putting CP3 ahead of T5T?
Posted by bentagain, Tue May-19-15 11:54 AM
and I forgot Mike Conley in my original list

yeah, he's falling

fast

IMO
2446774, dudes have gone mad fam.
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 11:03 AM
I can see an argument for Curry and Russy. That's it though.
2446730, http://tinyurl.com/kzdhfyq - LOL I love these internet moments
Posted by Lach, Mon May-18-15 09:13 AM
http://tinyurl.com/kzdhfyq
2446943, Ohh may
Posted by astralblak, Mon May-18-15 08:03 PM
.
2446736, http://i.imgur.com/k0QJz5N.jpg?1
Posted by Lach, Mon May-18-15 09:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/k0QJz5N.jpg?1
2446737, lol
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 09:19 AM
2446759, ROFL
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-18-15 10:37 AM
.
2446760, After all that, we're exactly at the same place with CPPlea
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 10:37 AM
He's amazing. Nothing can ever take away Game 7 Spurs, which should dead any stupid clutch narrative. However, he's just not quite as good, nor ever been, as his regular season numbers and his most ardent supporters imply. He's fantastic, he's so much fun to watch, and he's a top 10 PG all time. However, he's a little bit of a compiler and not in the Durant tier, let alone Lebron.

This postseason was him in a nutshell. It's not his fault that they didn't advance--that's on Doc the GM who completely fucked up their bench. However, he didn't do anything to stop the collapse either. He's the leader of a team that didn't take Game 5 seriously. He was on the floor and just whatever during that run in Game 6.

Simmons once said that the Kobe/Jordan question was settled when the Celtics came back from 30 down in the Finals, because Jordan would have never, ever, ever let that happen. That's where I'm at with CPPlea. He's amazing...but if he were that amazing, Game 6 would have never happened.
2446761, Is there anyone else in the nba in the Lebron/Durant tier tho?
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 10:39 AM
i guess there are still some tbd, but no one is def there right now.

Sheeeit, i'm not even sure if Durant is in that tier lol.
2446797, Next year we start calling it the Davis/Durant tier, in that order
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 11:44 AM
2446811, Davis needs to win a playoff game first, the same things you are saying...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-18-15 12:11 PM
about CP3 in game 6 can apply to Davis in game 3.
2446835, Did I stutter? That's why I said next year
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 01:08 PM
2447015, meanwhile u were saying blake was better than dirk before 2011 playoffs began
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue May-19-15 08:39 AM
began.
2446767, RE: he's a top 10 PG all time
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 10:53 AM
no, he's not

he's a top 10 PG in the NBA, today.

"It's not his fault that they didn't advance"

yes, it is

no reason he can't feast w/a 37Y.O. Jason Terry and 38Y.O. Prigioni guarding him

no excuses

I'm wondering what that series looks like if Bev played.
2446771, cp3 plays one position not 5..
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon May-18-15 10:59 AM
deandre not even an offensive factor, period... so he has 3 players to rely on to make shots...one of which jus aint that good... and reddick cant get his own shot...so based on what hes working ith and he still putting up numbers..i'd say he's top 5 easy... he also cant guard 5 positions..
2446775, Deandre talking bout he want 100million to not be able to create his own
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 11:04 AM
shot.

foh.
2446776, RE: cppleas
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 11:06 AM
2446777, Definitely not.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon May-18-15 11:06 AM
2446795, Make the list
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 11:41 AM
2446822, RE: Make the list
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon May-18-15 12:35 PM
Magic
Isaiah
Stockton
Gary Payton
Walt Frazier
Jason Kidd
Nate Archibald
Boby Cousy
Oscar Robertson
Steve Nash
Dennis Johnson
Kevin Johnson
2446834, These are just ridiculous
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 01:01 PM

>Walt Frazier
>Nate Archibald
>Steve Nash
>Dennis Johnson
>Kevin Johnson

Numbers lie, but they don't lie that much. There's simply no way these guys are as good as CP3. The only one you can kind of even make a statistical argument for is Nash, but CPPlea is an all world defender and Nash is a sieve who quit on the Lakers. <--just threw that last part in for fun and because it's true.

>Stockton
>Gary Payton
>Jason Kidd
>Boby Cousy

This is his real peer group. Me personally, I'd take him over every guy in this group except Prime Payton, and Gary Payton's prime was much shorter than you remember.

So, yeah, much as it surprises me, I've got him as the fourth best, behind Magic, Oscar, and Zeke. Zeke is actually fascinating, because CP3's numbers destroy Zeke's and good Lord doesn't that destroy all of my arguments above? Except I watched Zeke willingly not dominate the ball. It's one thing to have the ball in your hands and make the right passes. It's entirely another to be ok without touching the ball because it's best for the team, and Zeke did that better than anyone I've ever seen.

The guys in the other tiers, they still dominated the ball, and their numbers are so far below what Paul does playing the same way that there's simply no way to argue they had a comparable effect.
2446839, Oh Word?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon May-18-15 01:14 PM
You wanna know what CPPlea's maruee game is? Game 7 of a 1st round series against the Spurs.

You wanna know what Walt's is?

Game 7 in the NBA Finals vs Wilt, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor.

And he played better.

It's not even close.

CPPlea is on the KJ tier.

I really don't want to break down name by name.

Nate? Champ. Led the league in scoring and passing. He doesn't lose that Game 7 to the Rockets

Nash? 2 time MVP. Should he have won? Nope. But 2 time "Shouldn't have won MVP but won MVP" is better than never time out of the 2nd round man. He doesn't lose that Game 7 to the Rockets

Jason Kidd led the Nets to the Finals. TWICE. And won a title. Best International pg of all time too. He doesn't lose that Game 7 to the Rockets.

Gary Payton and Zeke's fav pg? John STockton. That's good enough for me. John doesn't lose that Game 7 to the Rockets.
2446977, listen to this guy, he is an expert on teams that shouldn't have lost
Posted by J_Stew, Tue May-19-15 01:49 AM
2446849, You take CP3 over Jason Kidd?
Posted by B.J.S.301, Mon May-18-15 01:28 PM
2446856, Yes, he wrote that.The lead Keith Van Horn to water Jason Kidd
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon May-18-15 01:38 PM
2446929, in the early 2000s eastern conference. Wow
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 06:52 PM
2446963, Do you really wanna go there?
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-18-15 09:41 PM
I'll ask nicely.
2446989, The Sixers beat a terrible east. I'm ok with that
Posted by bshelly, Tue May-19-15 07:49 AM
2446998, before they changed the defensive rules CP3 wouldn't have survived
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-19-15 08:11 AM
2446836, RE: FOH w/that Bob Cousy ish and KJ nor DJ were better than Paul
Posted by vee-lover, Mon May-18-15 01:10 PM
either

I think Utah would be just as successful w/Paul in place of Stockton

Stockton has the edge as a passer/playmaker...but barely

Other than that, I'd give Paul the advantage over him in the scoring and defensive category

And Nash WAS NOT better than CP3...at all

Also, I'm still not sure if Jerry West wasn't a PG - more like a tweener ...because I thought Gail Goodrich was the shooting guard on that Laker team

But if we consider West a PG then the list is as follows:

>Magic
>Isaiah
>Stockton
>Gary Payton
>Walt Frazier
>Jason Kidd
>Nate Archibald
>Jerry West?
>Oscar Robertson
>CP3
2446844, CP3 went from Magic/Zeke to Rod Strickland/Mark Price
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 01:24 PM
it was all good just a week ago

FTR

your list is on point

and we'll be adding names in the near future

folks need to come to terms with the failed agenda that was CP3.

Chauncey >>>
2446778, little guys dont lead teams to titles unless its zeke
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon May-18-15 11:06 AM
If a teams best player isnt at least 6'5ish give or take an inch...

It aint happening
2446813, ....and if Curry does it?
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-18-15 12:16 PM
2446819, yeah i love Cp3 but i'm not sure that Curry got a squad that is thaaat much
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 12:30 PM
better than Cp3s plus everyone woulda taken Doc over Kerr prior to last week probably lol
2446830, FYI, Redick and Matt Barnes are starters on the Clips
Posted by Wonderl33t, Mon May-18-15 12:53 PM
GS has a much better roster.
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2446833, lol jj redick is some sort of a bum now?
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 01:00 PM
2446837, Not a bum, but not a legit starter, either
Posted by Wonderl33t, Mon May-18-15 01:12 PM
Redick as your 3rd option on offense is pretty bad. Jordan and Barnes have almost no offensive game aside from finishing at the hoop.
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2446840, yeah Redick and Barnes would be great players off the bench but they...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-18-15 01:18 PM
are stretched and exposed as starters. When JJ's jumper isn't going he's pretty much useless and a liability on D. Barnes is a 35 year-old hustle guy.
2446842, RE: for what it's worth, I thought Reddick defended Harden pretty...
Posted by vee-lover, Mon May-18-15 01:23 PM
well thoughtout that whole series

Even thought Harden put up 31 pts yesterday he didn't shoot well at all w/Reddick mostly defending him (7-20) and got most of his pts from the line

But having said that, I never thought Reddick could be a starter on a championship team but he wasn't the problem nevertheless

>are stretched and exposed as starters. When JJ's jumper isn't
>going he's pretty much useless and a liability on D. Barnes is
>a 35 year-old hustle guy.
2446853, harden didn't really have a great series at all.
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 01:35 PM
2446852, Crawford is the 3rd option. JJ redick is an average sg at worst.
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 01:34 PM
2446909, What does Jordan do when the ball is passed to him when
Posted by Wonderl33t, Mon May-18-15 04:55 PM
he's farther than 36 inches from the hoop?

He's a last option on offense, bro
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2446916, He's a center that finishes at the rim. And he's one of the best defensive
Posted by Cenario, Mon May-18-15 05:09 PM
centers in the league. He's probably the best Center at running the floor, with meshes perfectly with LAC. One of the best, if not the best rebounder in the league. He stays healthy and you can play him 35min+ if needed. He damn sure better all around than Bogut.
2447146, DJ is in no way shape or form an 'all around' player n/m
Posted by Wonderl33t, Tue May-19-15 11:38 AM
He damn sure
>better all around than Bogut.


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2446883, then he will be special. like zeke. an interesting parallel...
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon May-18-15 03:07 PM
Curry and Isiah both had backcourt partners on their level

CP3 doesnt even have that.

No coincidence that LAC stopped winning when Blake's assists, steals, and FT% dropped sharply from rd 1
2446949, Posf 131. Less about size, far more about playing style
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon May-18-15 08:19 PM
2446948, It's not about little, it's about being a ball dominant pg
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon May-18-15 08:17 PM
The last ball dominant pg who won a title was Isiah, which shows how special he is.

The difference with Curry is that he doesn't have to always play on the ball to be effective. He is great on it but you can move him off ball and he's also extremely effective due to his jump-shot and ability to finish in the paint.
2447155, youre prolly right. kinda ties into what i was saying about backcourts
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue May-19-15 11:45 AM
Isiah had Joe D and Microwave to keep him from being too keyed on

Steph has Klay for the same and Livingston to let him move off ball

Ive always loved Crawford for obvious reasons, and JJ has become a good all around player...but that group isnt like those others
2446823, Why keep moving the goalposts..
Posted by gmltheone, Mon May-18-15 12:35 PM
Either he wins a ring or he doesn't. Winning in the 2nd round being some sort of black stain is some bullshit. If they won one more game and got swept next round does that validate his career? LOL


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Same as it ever was!
2446846, I don't think his teammates like him.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-18-15 01:26 PM
2446850, we're pretty sure deandre and blake don't, anyway
Posted by bshelly, Mon May-18-15 01:28 PM
2446890, Only teammates that matter...
Posted by gmltheone, Mon May-18-15 03:35 PM
Him being cool with hawes and big baby is comedy.

But yeah I can see CP3 being a complete asshole type dude.
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Same as it ever was!
2446971, He's hyper-competitive so that def can rub raw
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon May-18-15 10:46 PM
Allegedly, CP3 got after DeAndre because he wasn't utilizing the ft coach
2447039, http://giant.gfycat.com/EsteemedInfantileEquestrian.gif
Posted by melmag, Tue May-19-15 09:28 AM
http://giant.gfycat.com/EsteemedInfantileEquestrian.gif
2446875, http://i.imgur.com/dHYZiRh.jpg
Posted by mtbatol, Mon May-18-15 02:51 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dHYZiRh.jpg
2446910, lol
Posted by Lach, Mon May-18-15 04:58 PM
2446985, http://i.minus.com/ibwmG52gz9xbtX.gif
Posted by melmag, Tue May-19-15 07:31 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibwmG52gz9xbtX.gif
2446986, man, I hate yall (c)Childish Gambino
Posted by Dstl1, Tue May-19-15 07:39 AM
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2447000, lmao! y'all wild
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue May-19-15 08:14 AM
2447027, lmao, wtf
Posted by Deebot, Tue May-19-15 09:07 AM
2447029, HAHAHHAHA
Posted by Case_One, Tue May-19-15 09:12 AM

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"Jesus is my Lord and Savior. And if you believe in him, he can be your's too."
2447032, I hollered LOL
Posted by Lach, Tue May-19-15 09:16 AM
2606711, Welp...could get out first round this time, he's done a a lead dog...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Apr-30-17 05:25 PM
he better get his ring chase on and go to San Antonio
2655250, about time.
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed May-09-18 07:49 AM
2742037, *scans post.....yeah, send this one up
Posted by DJR, Wed Jun-30-21 10:56 PM
2742045, bout time, now can he finish the job?
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jun-30-21 11:10 PM
2743552, fuck him and the horse he rode in on
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jul-20-21 11:29 PM