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|Topic subject||Lebronon subtly already setting up plea cops|
2446041, Lebronon subtly already setting up plea cops|
Posted by josephmurf2384, Fri May-15-15 11:51 PM
-Cleveland big 1.5
-Blatt can't coach
-Least talented team since the last time in Cleveland
-No love (who they didn't want during the regular season)
-Not enough help
I am sure they will have more and if he loses they will come up with new ways for him to be the GOAT even if he fails again. They will be lucky if it is GS VS CLE finals because they have the automatic out of GS was the best team in B-ball all year or they win and they get King crushed The City. It will be interesting to see the spin if he fails to win again.
2446042, Quality post. |
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-16-15 12:00 AM
They're trying to move that 'underdog' narrative while riding the "only sure fire way to a contender is to have Lebron". Pathetic.
2446050, why is this agenda posting?|
Posted by Rjcc, Sat May-16-15 01:18 AM
I wouldn't call them an underdog (of the teams potentially left, none of them can make that claim
but they are down two PFs and Kyrie is hurt.
is your second point not true? put LeBron on any team in the league and it's a contender
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2446051, Uh, that seems perfectly reconcilable|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 01:27 AM
He is not the *only* way to win a title, but he is the only *surefire* way t compete for one.
I mean, is that even a question? This will be his fifth straight Finals. That is something Wilt, Magic, Cap, Bird, Jordan, et al never accomplished, but beyond that it's pretty much proof about his impact on a team, especially considering that he kept not ready for primetime players in the mix (including a finals appearance) prior to that.
This year I think you have to look at a team built as a Big 3 with one of its big 3 available as being at a slight disadvantage against the Western champ. Is that not reasonable? Obviously we will have to see how the other team enters the series, too, but as it is, yes, I think you'd have to consider the Cavs slight underdogs against at least Golden State if not all three remaining teams.
2446054, possibly the only cogent thing you've said in OKS, ever.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 01:34 AM
>yes, I think you'd have
>to consider the Cavs slight underdogs
i know i know - you've set a low bar, but still....
I'm proud of you Charlie.
2446056, fuck you.|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 01:45 AM
2446145, : ) |
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 02:48 PM
2446072, Wut |
Posted by Amritsar, Sat May-16-15 07:15 AM
2446086, You're truly an idiot if you actually think that |
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-16-15 09:03 AM
A one trick pony talking about low bars. Lmao.
2446139, you are completely off the rails at this point|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat May-16-15 02:39 PM
youve become a parody of a caricature of a satire of yourself
2446148, it's just me and colin against the world:|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 02:55 PM
2446174, Colin Cowherd is one glue huff away from being Skip Bayless.|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 06:05 PM
2446223, In the world of ESPN sports punditry, Cowherd actually has perspective|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 11:24 PM
but of course I'd expect you to hate on it, that's what you do best.
2446672, Nah man, I give credit where it's due. He is just trash.|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sun May-17-15 11:51 PM
2446058, If you have the best 2 players on the floor...|
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-16-15 01:47 AM
You aren't an underdog. Hence the Bulls and now the Hawks.
Warriors or Clippers in the finals...okay sure, play the underdog. All I'm saying is you can't have both. Bron is a phenomal player. Transcendent. But you can't have both.
2446059, Irving is not the best player on any floor, anywhere on one leg though|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 01:50 AM
They have the best player on the floor. We have seen teams with that lose plenty of times. Again, obviously we don't know how the two finalists will enter the finals but *right today* there would be a favorite and an underdog. Golden State, with home court and all its players healthy, would be the favorite.
2446063, How's that contradict what I said?|
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-16-15 02:13 AM
Against the Bulls and the Hawks they're the favorite.
2446065, Wait, what? That's what this is about? Obviously they are.|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 02:41 AM
I thought the OP was talking about the championship, not the conference finals. Who is trying to cop pleas preemptively for a potential loss to Atlanta. Pfffft. That would be ridiculous. The Hawks are an average team masquerading as a 1 seed. But the OP is talking about the Finals, clearly, he mentions Golden State.
2446074, You ain't been paying attn charlie|
Posted by Cenario, Sat May-16-15 07:36 AM
2446080, answer the question, who is talking about the Hawks?|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 08:43 AM
2446098, The 2nd reply in this post.|
Posted by Cenario, Sat May-16-15 11:27 AM
2446102, Hyperbole aside, it's tough to front on what Lebron just did to snatch back|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 11:37 AM
that series since last Friday night's Rose buzzer-bank W.
There's not another player in the league capable of pulling that off under the same circumstances, all while really only having one top-shelf game.
2446114, i'm just referring to the comments about the hawks|
Posted by Cenario, Sat May-16-15 12:26 PM
Isn't that what you asked about?
2446127, Hawks are the #1 seed, fully healthy, and have home court advantage.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 01:23 PM
Cavs still gonna win, of course.
But it's fun being the #UnderGawds.
It's even more fun watching the amount of froth manufactured from the #HurtLocker contingent.
2446146, Cavs gonna win of course|
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-16-15 02:53 PM
And yet...underdogs? Lol. K.
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 02:56 PM
2446175, There are two ways to define an underdog and Cleveland fits neither|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 06:08 PM
Cavs are 2/5 to win the series, Hawks are 2/1. That sets the Cavs as clear favorites.
The conversation could end there, but then literally any expert not just trying to be on some Charles Barkley "THE NETS WILL WIN THE FINALS!" shit is picking the Cavs.
The Cavs are the favorite, by any measure.
2446194, oh, well obviously they ain't underdogs vs the Hawks|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 09:18 PM
I didn't really take that too seriously.
2446079, The Hawks?!? Fuck Outta Here. They will be the Vegas underdog vs GS|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 08:41 AM
I'll take Lebron tho and you can have the Warriors for a hundo.
I don't even get what you're trying to do here.
2446092, That's what I said though. |
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-16-15 10:13 AM
I don't get this reply.
2446097, u said a bit more than that but aight|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 11:23 AM
>I don't get this reply.
2446184, can you just admit you misread the OP? it's not a big deal|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 07:09 PM
except for the fact that it got the minister of information for lebronon in here disseminating pamphlets and shit, but that was inevitable.
2446049, really an incredible display from this rag-tag, injured, banged up squad|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 12:55 AM
-Andy V out
-Kyrie nowhere near 100% and badly needs rest; getting by on sheer skill and shooting ability
-Bron maxing out on mileage and carrying the cross so that role players can stunt on IG
-Blatt learning how to win playoff games on the fly as a rookie coach and having unfathomably disastrous mental breakdowns in the process.
Such a drastic contrast to the criminally hated on Miami teams that could do no right to #HurtLocker fans despite the fact that they reeled in historic, all-time achievements in just 4 years together.
Cleveland wins this year - it's the UnderGawd feel-good story of the year in all of sports - and nobody would expect it or predict them to win it all (name one analyst who is picking Cleveland to win the title....GO.) but if CLE wins? Obama invites the Cavs & Cav Nots to the White House to lecture the nation on 'perseverance', the value of always knowing where you come from no matter how far you venture away, and how we can learn from the rugby grit of Yung Dova aka John Leg-Locke.
-cues tired ass 'i'm coming home' video montage and spams it in the email inbox of all laker, knicks, bulls, and celtic fans-
BIG 1.5 FTW. Will be fun to see if we can steal the ECF from the home-court advantaged Hawks.
2446052, where is sev? he was much more fun|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 01:30 AM
2447728, i think he got banned again|
Posted by astralblak, Wed May-20-15 12:24 PM
Vex really has become like a bizarro world Case with this shit
2446116, RE: really an incredible display from this rag-tag, injured, banged up squad|
Posted by j0510, Sat May-16-15 12:38 PM
and nobody would expect it or
>predict them to win it all (name one analyst who is picking
>Cleveland to win the title....GO.)
Kelly Dwyer picked the Cavs over the Spurs in 6 games for the title. Five of the six analysts at Yahoo Sports had the Cavs in the finals and Dwyer is the only one who picked the Cavs to win it all.
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 01:20 PM
>Kelly Dwyer picked the Cavs over the Spurs in 6 games for the
>title. Five of the six analysts at Yahoo Sports had the Cavs
>in the finals and Dwyer is the only one who picked the Cavs to
>win it all.
So we've got 1. Cool.
2446141, RE: nice.|
Posted by j0510, Sat May-16-15 02:41 PM
>>Kelly Dwyer picked the Cavs over the Spurs in 6 games for
>>title. Five of the six analysts at Yahoo Sports had the Cavs
>>in the finals and Dwyer is the only one who picked the Cavs
>>win it all.
>So we've got 1. Cool.
You asked for "one". I gave you "one". Here's "one" more. Jason McIntyre picked the Cavs over the Warriors in 7 games.
^^^All five have the Cavs playing in the Finals. Jason McIntyre and Stephen (sorry no last name is given, possible typo but I cannot say for certain), are the only ones saying the Cavs will win the title.
Vincent Ellis of the Detroit Free Press has the Cavs winning the title.
Over at SI, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/04/17/nba-playoff-predictions-finals-title-spurs-warriors-cavaliers , all five predicted the Cavs in the Finals, though none have the Cavs winning the title.
^^^All this was done with a simple google search. So, it would be disingenuous on your part to keep claiming the Cavs as the underdog and that absolutely no one is picking the Cavs to come out of the East. If you want to claim the Cavs as the underdog for the finals, then that makes sense since most analysts are picking another team other than the Cavs.
2446144, lol nice research breh, but a few outlier opinions isn't persuasive. |
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 02:46 PM
Particularly when you make this logical reach:
So, it would
>be disingenuous on your part to keep claiming the Cavs as the
So 1.2334% of analysts are picking the Cavs to win the title - congrats.
>underdog for the finals, then that makes sense since most
>analysts are picking another team other than the Cavs.
that's what we're talking about here. "Nobody has been expecting the cavs to win it all this year."
I'll fix it for you.
"Nobody except Kelly and a few bloggers have been expecting the cavs to win it all this year."
2446157, You didn't ask for consensus, you asked for one |
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-16-15 04:19 PM
2446224, well, I'm still waiting for an expert prediction that is updated|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 11:28 PM
Those predictions were before the playoffs started, before Love went down, and before Kryie was badly banged up.
So - now that we're in the conference finals, is there anybody out there picking Cleveland to win the title?
They are the underdogs to win the title. Period.
2446132, is your email address from when u were a MJ era bulls fan still active?|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sat May-16-15 02:03 PM
>-cues tired ass 'i'm coming home' video montage and spams it
>in the email inbox of all laker, knicks, bulls, and celtic
then u might want to update the spam filter for email@example.com
2446137, No - I didn't watch basketball until I posted in OKS about it, remember?|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 02:34 PM
That's how things work around here.
And since you're obsessed with the bio, let's get a few things corrected:
-I moved to NH when i was 16, and went to public school.
I appreciate your interest though, lil irish boy.
2446155, well you probably at least watched Space Jam though|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sat May-16-15 03:22 PM
>-I moved to NH when i was 16, and went to public school.
Cool story, ox.
>I appreciate your interest though, lil irish boy.
Ah, obsessed with the bio I see. Awesome.
Posted by Basaglia, Sat May-16-15 06:45 AM
2446078, 100 bucks, u take the Warriors, I'll take Lebron|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 08:37 AM
2446104, If that's what we get in the finals|
Posted by josephmurf2384, Sat May-16-15 11:41 AM
2446105, cool, done. n/m|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 11:45 AM
2446083, they shouldn't be the favorites against GC or LAC|
Posted by pretentious username, Sat May-16-15 08:55 AM
that should be clear to anyone.
2446087, Why on earth would the Los Angeles Clippers be favored vs a Lebron team?|
Posted by Bombastic, Sat May-16-15 09:21 AM
>that should be clear to anyone.
Explain that to me, as they play Houston in a Game 7 they choked their way into today.
2446262, Cavs are banged up and Rivers >>>>>>>> Blatt|
Posted by pretentious username, Sun May-17-15 10:16 AM
And I don't put much stock in Houston taking it to 7 (if the Clippers indeed win). It's not like Houston sucks, and the 08 celtics let the first two rounds go to 7 and they were fine.
2446271, Cavs were banged up and Thibs>>>>>>>> Blatt.|
Posted by Bombastic, Sun May-17-15 11:18 AM
You could count on one hand the NBA playoff series that have ever actually swung based off a coaching matchup.
The Clippers start Matt Barnes and JJ Reddick, have no players who have won anything ever and don't have Lebron James.
They would not be favored in that series.
2446103, The Clippers being favorites over the Cavs is clear to you and you only|
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat May-16-15 11:37 AM
2446084, The Warriors are the only team I think left that can beat the Cavs|
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat May-16-15 08:56 AM
in a seven game series.
Note: I am not a citizen of LeBronon, LeBron James just plays for my favorite team and is its best player historically and presently.
I think the Cavs will survive Atlanta, it will be a 6 game endurance for them.
Only because I saw how they struggled against the Wizards (and Paul Pierce was fucking robbed).
I don't see a team like the Warriors having the struggles offensively that Chicago did, and they have 3 pretty consistent players, plus a strong bench.
After their performance against Chicago with no JR for 2 games, no Kyrie for at least 2 games, no Love for the rest of the season, and LeBron shooting like absolute dogshit for 2 of those games, including the series clincher.... I have more confidence in the Cavs than ever, if they can keep up the bench intensity. If LeBron has multiple "salts" games I feel better about them than I ever did the first time he was in Cleveland.
But against the Warriors and that Curry/Thompson/Green trio Cavs are gonna need lots of salts, and they will need Kyrie to stand a chance.
2446130, and there's only one reason why you think that: Lebron James.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 01:37 PM
>Note: I am not a citizen of LeBronon,
So, whether you are a "citizen of LeBronon" or not, he's the only reason the Cavs got past Chicago, and he's the only reason that the Cavs will be party to his 5th straight Finals appearance.
This banged up, inexperienced, profoundly average coached team wouldn't stand a chance at a title if Bron isn't defying convention and producing multiplicity performances on both ends of the floor.
2446158, Blatt has done a pretty solid job, especially defensively|
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat May-16-15 04:26 PM
I know it's one of your built-in pleas (as coaching always is for the basic agenda whores) but it's patently false.
2446225, Blatt's not a great coach by any stretch of the imagination, not yet.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 11:35 PM
Granted - it's true that he got thrown into an unpredictable, challenging situation. He was brought to Cleveland to coach the Cavs prior to The Return materializing. Asking a rookie coach with no NBA experience to manage this team is a tall order, so it's expected that he would mistakes - and he's made plenty of mistakes. My main issue with him is that he doesn't seem to understand that he's a rookie coach, perhaps a bit too proud. Yes, he's got great experience abroad, but it's not the same as the NBA game. I'm not sure he really thinks that he has a lot to learn.
Unfortunately, the Cavs are in win-now mode, so that can't really wait for Blatt to get the experience he needs to shine in the biggest moments against elite coaches.
2446226, You understand nothing about leading people or coaching|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 11:39 PM
Too proud? LMFAO
2446229, but you know who does? ConcreteCharlie. Chuck knows Blatt!|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 11:46 PM
2447769, I know what it means to lead people and have authority|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed May-20-15 02:12 PM
It's been a few days and I am still laughing at the notion that a head coach could be "too proud."
2446287, Blatt be not proud, though some have called thee.|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sun May-17-15 12:26 PM
2446458, really, considering how awkward it is w/the Cavs|
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun May-17-15 05:15 PM
with all the injuries, and while I don't put TOO much stock in the rumor mill, there has been a bit of incongruity between what LeBron wants to do and what Blatt wants to do as coach. For the most part, a LeBron return was a pipe dream (no JR) the Cavs didn't exactly plan for, and they had chosen Blatt well before the pipe dream came true.
it's created a situation where everyone except Blatt gets credit if they do well, and he gets all the blame when they lose. Which is just some BS. I mean, I was mad at the last 40 seconds of Game 4 against the Bulls like everyone else, but he does deserve credit for what has gone well. LeBron gives a LOT to any team he's on, but can't do everything; this was the lesson (I hope) the Cavs have learned from the last time he was with the team.
We saw this with the Heat/Spoelstra. Just let it play out, is what I say.
2446517, I agree w/ that, all i've said is that Blatt is an average coach.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 05:48 PM
He's a rookie coach - so you can't expect a ton from him, but people in here claiming he out-coached Thibs and that he's a great coach are reaching heavily. He hasn't proven any of that yet.
As stated, it's a tall, tall order to coach this team in year one, particularly when you were brought in to lead an entire different ship.
That said, I expect Blatt to be more than serviceable - and he has a lot to improve upon, but that's as expected for any rookie coach attempting to win a title.
2446131, Goodness. Y'all still at it? Bron still better than Kobe|
Posted by Lach, Sat May-16-15 01:43 PM
2446185, KOBE SHALL RISE AGAIN!|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 07:12 PM
2446465, last I saw, Kobe wasn't being discussed here|
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun May-17-15 05:18 PM
this was about LeBron and claim for "GOAT"
I think that if anyone, it was a swipe at Jordan
2446502, It's obvious it's still about him tho based on some of the comments|
Posted by Lach, Sun May-17-15 05:39 PM
I mean I don't consider Lebron the GOAT myself and I'm a Celtics fan but there's a select group of folk in here doing what's expected like it's 2008 lol.
2446133, didn't he just LOL a post game question about being the underdog?|
Posted by bentagain, Sat May-16-15 02:05 PM
you typed facts
they just beat a better CHI roster to advance to the ECF
and you're talking plea cops
2446138, lol right? That's the best part about it:|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 02:37 PM
>you typed facts
Dude (and many other hurt fans) are up here like "OH WE CAN HEAR IT NOW - ALL THE PLEA COPS AND TWISTED NARRATIVES OF:
-Love being out
-Kyrie being hurt
-Blatt being a rookie coach making some horrible decisions
WAIT FOR THE LIES TO POUR IN!"
meanwhile, those are just facts, family.
>they just beat a better CHI roster to advance to the ECF
>and you're talking plea cops
Nah, let 'em lament. I love it.
2446161, Lol you have been running around like this is history of epic proportion|
Posted by josephmurf2384, Sat May-16-15 04:50 PM
meanwhile building in excuses for it to end short of an NBA title. Fact of the matter is he is sub 500 in NBA title appearances and y'all are already ready to excuse him if he fails again and still claim him as the GOAT.
2446270, He hasn't surprassed GOAT (Jordan), but he been surpassed Kobe.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 11:12 AM
nobody in their right mind thinks Kobe is ranked higher than Lebron all-time.
Only people making that claim are those waving the flag of Kobestan - after a half-decade of lathering in off-season lamentation and failure.
2446278, RE: but he been surpassed Kobe.|
Posted by bentagain, Sun May-17-15 11:38 AM
Bron has a chance to get that #1 spot
but as far as surpassed
nah, not yet
2446462, are you convinced he's gonna drop 2 3-peats in the rest of his career?|
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun May-17-15 05:16 PM
>Bron has a chance to get that #1 spot
2446519, All-time greatness isn't just a ring-count exercise.|
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 05:50 PM
2446748, IMHO, rings may not be his legacy, and I've posted this reply before|
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 10:03 AM
if you project his career
he has a chance at
top 10 Assists
top 20 Rebounds
w/o 6 rings, 2 3peats, etc...
he's still doing thins that MJ didn't
i.e., taking 2 franchises to the finals
4 straight finals
when you consider where Bron is today
and then project his career
Yes, he has a chance at getting that #1 spot.
2629989, So we're clear...Bron's legacy is numbers|
Posted by bentagain, Sun Nov-12-17 03:56 PM
Of course he'll never go 6 for 6...but damn if isn't making an argument for himself anyway!
2446214, better than what?|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 10:21 PM
let's not act like chicago is anything special, especially with noah limping around and gasol in and out. they lost their advantage in the series. backcourt was potentially good but not totally bankable. reserve big guys showed why they were reserves. diminishing marginal return on their minutes, big time.
to me lebron's earlier runs (e.g. 2007) showed how good he was more than the current one, which highlights that in some part but more highlights how pitiful the east remains in terms of producing real contenders.
2446277, ^^^ pleas copped - show 'em how to do this son (c)|
Posted by bentagain, Sun May-17-15 11:36 AM
2446279, lol this shit is beautiful:|
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 11:40 AM
>let's not act like chicago is anything special, especially
>with noah limping around and gasol in and out. they lost their
>advantage in the series. backcourt was potentially good but
>not totally bankable. reserve big guys showed why they were
>reserves. diminishing marginal return on their minutes, big
2446555, you seem trapped in this agenda posting cycle|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sun May-17-15 06:51 PM
i wish lebron well but really didnt care. just calling it how i saw it. that series was not a thing of beauty.
2446163, *Petition to bring Sev back* |
Posted by Amritsar, Sat May-16-15 05:05 PM
I didn't particularly love him as a poster
but he was better than the current iteration
2446497, SeV a weirdo...but at least he been in NBA threads for longer than 3 yrs|
Posted by LBs Finest, Sun May-17-15 05:37 PM
2446705, Sev has spent way more time on a Bball court than underwear modeling shoots |
Posted by Amritsar, Mon May-18-15 07:47 AM
That's for sure
2447731, damn, kinda haterish dawg|
Posted by astralblak, Wed May-20-15 12:27 PM
2447749, Army has issues. Let him air it out.|
Posted by Vex_id, Wed May-20-15 01:34 PM
He also knows that I would fuck him up on the court, while wearing nothing
but dunks and fitted calvin klein boxer briefs, cut up while a model jawn
watches me light his dadbod ass up until he goes back home and writes
more hate poasts on okp, trolling throughout the archives to look at my old
I mean I love it. Entertained.
2447771, lofl. ouch|
Posted by astralblak, Wed May-20-15 02:18 PM
2446215, I mean how great is a player if he's *expected* to win a title every year?|
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat May-16-15 10:23 PM
LeBron is the non-center to get this treatment, usually it's some Goliath thing reserved for the Wilts and Shaqs of the world.
2446228, From Dave McMenamin (ESPN)|
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-16-15 11:44 PM
"Getting by the Bulls afforded the cavs a 6-day break before their series with the hawks - which is a welcome rest for Lebron's back, Tristan Thompson's shoulder, Shumpert's left groin, and Kyrie Irving's whole body. Irving sat out Saturday's practice and visited team doctors after re-aggravating his foot injury. When asked of Irving's status, Cavs can't say with certainty that he will play game one on Wednesday. The Cavs have gone through so much adversity in the first two rounds that they are getting a crash-course on playoff experience before even reaching the conference finals."
But right - this is just PLEA COPPAGE!
2446245, ESPN said it must be true|
Posted by josephmurf2384, Sun May-17-15 02:27 AM
2446288, first I heard of Tristan's shoulder|
Posted by bentagain, Sun May-17-15 01:28 PM
every other part is basic common knowledge
2446478, I was more referring to the degree that adversity should have effected them|
Posted by josephmurf2384, Sun May-17-15 05:23 PM
It was not a spectacular triumph. bulls seemed equally as banged up. Shrump injury didn't seem to effect him minus a quarter or so. Kyrie's injury seemed to come into play after a couple bad games when it was first mentioned. Fact of the matter is Cleveland has beaten two teams they should have. Nothing Lebron has done these playoffs is of historic proportion like lenbron stansare trying to make it out to be and they are starting to build in the same tired ezxcuses in case their "King" fails to get a crown again. Actually Lebron did get another historic individual achievement with tying Jordan at one record can't remember which one.
2446510, lol. |
Posted by Vex_id, Sun May-17-15 05:45 PM
>It was not a spectacular triumph. bulls seemed equally as
Wrong. Andy V missed the whole series. Kevin Love missed the whole series. J.R. missed 2 games. Kyrie badly banged up and couldn't play game 6. Shump? banged up. Bron? playing on a bad ankle.
Bulls? Gasol missed 2 games.
Interesting math re: 'equally banged up.'
I mean i love it, but it's beyond silly. Everybody acknowledges (even bulls fans) that this was the opportunity for them to beat a seriously depleted Bron team.
Fact of the
>matter is Cleveland has beaten two teams they should have.
>Nothing Lebron has done these playoffs is of historic
How many players in the league history have led their team to 5 straight Conference Finals?
>did get another historic individual achievement with tying
>Jordan at one record can't remember which one.
Most playoff games with 30+ points, 5+ rebounds, and 5+ assists.
2446670, RE: lol. |
Posted by josephmurf2384, Sun May-17-15 11:45 PM
Are you actually claiming Andy V has any impact? Lol. He has not played most of the season and at no point has been a cog in this Cavs team. JR got his dumbass suspended and it could actually be said the first two games improved the team as Shump got into a rhythm and was a much more valuable player in the Chi series than JR was in the Boston series. Blatt who you have already shitted on multiple times these playoffs made a hell of an adjustment and changed his starting lineup, because he saw how well Shump played starting. Shump missed like a quarter with an injury but pretty much played lights out as a starter. The Shump JR switch in the starting lineup probably was one of the biggest factors in the Chi series. Kyrie's injury didn't get revealed until after 2 or 3 shitty games, and he looked pretty explosive game 5 before injuring himself game 6. Lol and Bron's ankle turn sure looked like it limited him.
5 straight conference finals in a historically bad conference that sees several sub 500 teams make the playoffs does not impress me. The 2-5 finals is what sticks out to me. For all this "makes his teammates better" BS it seems to wear off on the leagues biggest stage and he comes up short. I'm not even a Kobe fan and people saying he surpassed him is in no way definitive and all the traits people roast Kobe for have yielded more success on the league's biggest stage. Fuck conference finals in the east in the last decade, when he gets to "not 3, not 4, not 5" than he can be in some conversations. Until then great individual player but miss me with all this "King" BS while he fails to win the crown. He's the fucking Joffrey of the NBA. But y'all are already worried this season is gonna yield another non-title for him so you are getting your rationale ready to still claim him as the ultimate team player and makes guys better until he can no longer carry him when it all matters.
The record from Jordan is impressive, rings would be more impressive.
2446745, ^^^ plea cops for Bron WINNING.|
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 09:55 AM
2446800, lol 2-3 would seem he loses more than he wins|
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon May-18-15 11:45 AM
no doubt a great player, but on the biggest stage he is sub 500.
2446691, Chauncey Billups led Detroit to 6 straight conference finals|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Mon May-18-15 01:21 AM
>Fact of the
>>matter is Cleveland has beaten two teams they should have.
>>Nothing Lebron has done these playoffs is of historic
>How many players in the league history have led their team to
>5 straight Conference Finals?
2446693, Cool, now try 5 straight Finals w/2-3 chips bcuz thats 2 weeks from now|
Posted by Bombastic, Mon May-18-15 01:40 AM
>>Fact of the
>>>matter is Cleveland has beaten two teams they should have.
>>>Nothing Lebron has done these playoffs is of historic
>>How many players in the league history have led their team
>>5 straight Conference Finals?
2446695, cool, Ray & Bosh saved Bron from being Peyton Manning of the NBA|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Mon May-18-15 02:02 AM
2446746, ^^^ plea cops for Bron WINNING.|
Posted by bentagain, Mon May-18-15 09:58 AM
should we make a separate post?
western finals opponent was out of gas after running the gauntlet in the WC playoffs
the betting odds had the Cavs as favorites
2447352, just stating facts.|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue May-19-15 07:17 PM
no need to get emotional.
2447671, emotional = plea cops for Ws 2 years ago|
Posted by bentagain, Wed May-20-15 10:19 AM
2447672, emotional = plea cops for Ws 2 years ago|
Posted by bentagain, Wed May-20-15 10:21 AM
nobody needed to save a dude that makes the finals half the time he's in the league.
2447824, I stated facts. Plea cops = "rings may not be his legacy"|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed May-20-15 05:48 PM
>nobody needed to save a dude that makes the finals half the
>time he's in the league.
No? So Ray misses that shot does Bron still win that ring or nah?
2447998, Steve Kerr, John Paxson, Tony Parker, Robert Horry, Derek Fisher|
Posted by bentagain, Thu May-21-15 09:01 AM
are we taking rings away from Jorn
no, we're not
can you see how irrational Bron hate is yet?
not only does he get ridiculed for EVERY thing possible
but now, you're saying
not only can't he have good team mates
but said team mates are NOT allowed to perform
c'mon, you can't be serious
IRT his legacy
it will be #s, stats, efficiency, etc...
Jorn won 6 straight, which I think is safe to say at this point in his career, Bron won't
so even if he won 6 or 7, MFers like you would be on some, but but Jorn never lost...
so those littel snot nose millenials that have Brons on their christmas list today
will be able to make a case for Bron being the GOAT at the end of his career based on #s
he will retire the Babe Ruth/Dan Marino of the NBA
i.e., Bron will be the trivia answer to every NBA record question.
2448558, none of those were 'miss and you lose a ring' shots|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri May-22-15 02:28 PM
>are we taking rings away from Jorn
>no, we're not
Missing those shots wouldn't have taken rings away from those guys. Ray missing would have cost Bron a ring.
>but now, you're saying
>not only can't he have good team mates
>but said team mates are NOT allowed to perform
I didn't say any of that. I simply stated a fact. You're making that stuff up because you can't deal with that fact.
>will be able to make a case for Bron being the GOAT at the end
>of his career based on #s
>he will retire the Babe Ruth/Dan Marino of the NBA
Peyton broke/surpassed almost every record/number of Marino's AND won a ring, so why are you mad I said Bron would be the Peyton of the NBA when you're saying he'd be the Marino? (And Ruth won 7 rings soon he won't be that.)
>i.e., Bron will be the trivia answer to every NBA record
Which record, exactly?
Posted by bentagain, Fri May-22-15 03:14 PM
"none of those were 'miss and you lose a ring' shots"
based on your own illogical logic, neither was Ray's
there was still 5.2 seconds left AND an overtime
I do recall Bron hitting a big shot in the previous possession
and playing D on T5T for the final possession
but I'll let you tell it.
you want to play a game of hypotheticals
but can't deny that any of the shots I listed were ring clinchers.
so hold onto that RayRay shot real tight
cuddle up with it at night
because they can never take that away from you
just like Bron's rings
"Which record, exactly?"
^^^ doesn't watch basketball
you had a full 24 hours and that was the best reply you could come up with
2448729, RE: *5.2|
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sat May-23-15 02:20 PM
>"none of those were 'miss and you lose a ring' shots"
>based on your own illogical logic, neither was Ray's
>there was still 5.2 seconds left AND an overtime
There was only an overtime because Ray hit the shot with them down by 3 that sent it to OT. Nice illogical logic you have going there.
>you want to play a game of hypotheticals
>but can't deny that any of the shots I listed were ring
Um, Horry/Parker/fisher never made ring clinchers, so yeah. But I never denied that other players have made ring clinchers, so not sure why you keep making shit up that I never said.
>"Which record, exactly?"
>^^^ doesn't watch basketball
I asked you to pick one, which you appear to be incapable of doing.
But ok, let's pick rebounds: what rebounding record is Bron gonna retire with?
>you had a full 24 hours and that was the best reply you could
>come up with
You've had 5 days and still can't come up with a rational point. I'd say I was disappointed but I had low expectations going in.
2446851, LULZ.... that was straight out of the M.A.D. playbook, tip of the hat|
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon May-18-15 01:33 PM
(I agree, BTW)
2446866, indeed - so M.A.D. it made you disappear for years.|
Posted by Vex_id, Mon May-18-15 02:04 PM
but we off that now. #WhoHealedYou is the movement.
2447028, lol, how many times do I have to say that my absence|
Posted by Dr Claw, Tue May-19-15 09:12 AM
was NOT LeBron related. else I would have been gone June 2013 rather than Jan 2014.
2446824, ESPN just ran a special on the Cavs referring to the "Big 1.5"|
Posted by Vex_id, Mon May-18-15 12:37 PM
more facts - or excuse me.... "PLEA COPPAGE"
2446829, Bron the Player Coach|
Posted by go mack, Mon May-18-15 12:47 PM
if he wins this year it will be most impressive
Blatt should just a figurehead at this point, the Kevin Pollak role in Casino
2446978, damn Lebron is still a topic of agendas???|
Posted by El_essence, Tue May-19-15 02:10 AM
I ain't the time to frequent the boards much. But really??
2447031, honestly, the only way LeBron gets fried for this season|
Posted by Dr Claw, Tue May-19-15 09:16 AM
is if somewhere down the line he pulls a "2010 Celtics series" or "2011 NBA Finals" anywhere in the remainder of the playoffs
I really do think that that Bulls series energized him on some "NOPE!"
now if the Cavs had lost to the Bulls?
OR some shit went down to have them go in out of the top 4 seeds, with the team he assembled being all dysfunctional and shit...
then there would be a party.
Chill Mode and the Miami siesta was the closest he got to "LeQuil" this whole season
I think "LeMagic" is what we're going to start getting here on out. the days of "LeBulldoze" are dwindling.
And that's gonna be actually cool to see