dude is looking bad out there, the other night he put up a goose egg in 34 minutes...

http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2014/11/eric_gordon_admits_he_is_strug.html

not sure what his contract is lookin like or if it's worth it. But with Tyreke in a starting role, Gordon is just getting in the way.

Josh Smith is probably the only contract/player I could see working. And that is a non-starter for us.

Just hoping he finds his confidence/form and opts out at the end of the year. Sigh...


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I thought of, but to me Eric Gordon is worse to have cause he almost offers nothing at this point. Josh could at least get a block or two and a few rebounds if his shot isn't falling. When Eric Gordon is off, it's just best to sit his ass on the bench.

If he can put together a solid year and stay healthy he might see the opportunity to get 3-4 years guaranteed (at say $8-9m per) as better than one more max year in his little self imposed purgatory, while risking injury to completely shoot his value for the rest of his career.

MAYBE 4/32 + security and a new situation >>> 1/16 + injury risk, trade rumors and general lemonheaded unhappiness.

Opt out for what?

he got the deal done.

http://gumbeauxsports.com/whodat/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AMINU_GORDON_KAMAN_HORNETS_JERSEYS2.jpg

and i hope it inspires gordon to what hibbert did, because good lord dude is SORRY and it's fucking up the Brow's ascension.

And your gold medal in the Hindsight Olympics is well earned.

An efficient 22 and 4 in his 3rd year for a Clipper team that was extremely reluctant to even trade him. No reason to think that wouldn't continue and improve. At that time he was being talked about as next in line at SG, not James Harden.

No other team trading their superstars (Orlando, OKC, Utah) got a young player of his caliber and upside.

Throw in a recent #8 overall pick, an unprotected 1st from Minny, and Kaman's expiring? Lol, I mean it wasn't even CLOSE.


If you want to question us matching the Phoenix max deal? Cool, definitely a worthy debate there.

But to continue to cry about a trade that everyone EXCEPT Laker fans agreed was better at the time? Its just bizarre, and really speaks volumes about just how spoiled and delusional your fanbase really is.

the only crumb of an argument that still exists is the merit of matching Gordon...nearly everyone called it that he would never be healthy. But even then, based on asset value, the Pelicans pretty much had to match.

>An efficient 22 and 4 in his 3rd year for a Clipper team that
>was extremely reluctant to even trade him. No reason to think
>that wouldn't continue and improve. At that time he was being
>talked about as next in line at SG, not James Harden.
>
>No other team trading their superstars (Orlando, OKC, Utah)
>got a young player of his caliber and upside.
>
>Throw in a recent #8 overall pick, an unprotected 1st from
>Minny, and Kaman's expiring? Lol, I mean it wasn't even
>CLOSE.
>
>
>If you want to question us matching the Phoenix max deal?
>Cool, definitely a worthy debate there.
>
>But to continue to cry about a trade that everyone EXCEPT
>Laker fans agreed was better at the time? Its just bizarre,
>and really speaks volumes about just how spoiled and
>delusional your fanbase really is.


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Dude was a budding star before the first knee surgery. Everyone forgets this for some reason.

Can you read?

dude was a beast at the 2, folks can pretend that wasn't the case all they want.

THIS trade was the reason it is. So yes, I'm still mad and bitter.

on some, we were wrong, but at the time there were a lot of people saying we were right

And he wanted to leave so bad. That was the suns right? What a bullet dodged.

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He's one of those guys that hasn't really ever been the same since he got hurt. He's had arthroscopic surgery on both knees within a two-year span. I wouldn't be the same either.

He showed some flashes over the last two years before the second knee surgery. The potential was still there. But yeah, he'll never be the guy he was with the Clippers.

But the "mask and gun" meme was for a healthy Hibbert. This is a player recovering from his second knee surgery since 2012. Not quite the same.

And better than Harden

He WAS traded in December 2011, you guys know that right?

That is literally between the time that Rose won MVP and when Russ was in the Finals.

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He might have dropped 30 ten times for the Clippers that final season (don't have his numbers in front of me). He was the hottest 2 guard prospect in the NBA. While I wouldn't agree he was as hot an up-and-comer as the MVP (obviously) or Russy, he was a better shooter than both, easily dropping over 20 per, and still only... what, 22 years old? He was young and very talented. If not in their category, in the immediate next tier.

He wasn't sorry at all. His knees got cooked.

but no one in 2011 rated his prospects as highly as westbrook or rose.



>He might have dropped 30 ten times for the Clippers that
>final season (don't have his numbers in front of me). He was
>the hottest 2 guard prospect in the NBA. While I wouldn't
>agree he was as hot an up-and-comer as the MVP (obviously) or
>Russy, he was a better shooter than both, easily dropping over
>20 per, and still only... what, 22 years old? He was young and
>very talented. If not in their category, in the immediate next
>tier.
>
>He wasn't sorry at all. His knees got cooked.

Not franchise player good. Not even Harden pre-Rockets good, but good.

Still - his numbers in his peak year were 22 points, 3 rebounds, 4.4 assists (56 games, 38 minutes a game). That's Jamal Crawford status. Good player, sure. But not comparable to the others.

I mean hell at that time, Tyreke Evans was comparable. Tyreke was GOOD, but wasn't ever thought of as close to Russ/Rose/the other elite 2s at the time

Hoop convos huh?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfja01.html

Crawford's best season was 20 points, 2.6 rebounds, 5 assists in 39 mins per game/80 games.

That's WAY different than 22.3 points, 2.9 rebounds, and 4.4 assists though. You're right. Carry on.

Jamal Crawford's prime was significantly worse than Eric Gordon as a young up-and-comer (peep the fg%, for one). stop.

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

And I'm the idiot here?

Just so we're clear:

Derrick Rose, coming off a 60+ win season and an MVP and Russell Westbrook, who was in the Finals 6 months after Gordon got traded.

He was right there with them? Even when healthy? RIGHT.

Gordon's Age 22 season is still better than Crawfords best season at Age 2-fucking-7. He was more efficient and a better shooter and a better defender and younger by half a fucking decade.

Dumbasses who wanna pretend to know shit will get called out. Just because you made a trade got nixed 5 year ago doesn't mean you should get mad at me for telling he truth.

I'm simply comparing numbers. I said "Jamal Crawford status". Not "Eric Gordon was going to end up as good as Jamal Crawford."

I just said their numbers were comparable.

And they are.

For all the revisionism going on here, Eric Gordon was never an elite 2-guard. Never. Promising, sure, but the trade ended up a total bust and I'm sorry you don't see that.

"never an elite" HE WAS 22!

jamal crawford status was bullshit. just admit it. Jamal Crawford wishes he had put up that line ever, let alone at age 22. at 22 jamal crawford was putting up 10 points on .41 shooting.

jamal fucking crawford. FOH.


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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

Who doesn't belong there?

Even in 2011?!

Go cry about Cp3.

Cats wanna pretend they know some hoops?

You still haven't answered as to why you'd compare bust ass Eric Gordon to MVP Rose and 3x All Star Russell Westbrook.

Russ, Rose, Gordon, and Mayo ALL came in the same year.

They all had success early in their careers.

Mayo fell off around that time. And left the pack.

Gordon was still playing well.

All 3 were in the pipeline for Team USA.

All 3 were seen as the next generation of great guards in the NBA.

ERIC GORDON got hurt and never regained that status.

If your Mad Ass wants to keep pretending like you know hoops. I'll keep sonning your shit.

>Still - his numbers in his peak year were 22 points, 3
>rebounds, 4.4 assists (56 games, 38 minutes a game). That's
>Jamal Crawford status. Good player, sure. But not comparable
>to the others.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfja01.html
point to the 22/3/4.4 assist line on 45% shooting. i'll wait. my god.

>I mean hell at that time, Tyreke Evans was comparable. Tyreke
>was GOOD, but wasn't ever thought of as close to Russ/Rose/the
>other elite 2s at the time

at the time, people thought tyreke would explode. he put up 20 ppg as a rookie. so much hindsight being used here. then he had an off year and most people blamed the dysfunctional kings for that more than evans actually not having upside beyond his rookie season numbers.

eric gordon was a 22 year old sharpshooter who looked primed to be a 25 ppg guy who was a solid defender and maybe even could be a really good defender. that's a damn good player to pick up in a trade. compared to a 12/3/2 in 26 minute no-defending ass Harden (basa'll tell you, people were starting to call him a flop), he looked primed to be a star that season. Harden busted out in 11-12, after the trade, not before.

there was definitely risk involved there and there were better 2 guards (tho not many better young prospects at the 2 at the time). but no need to throw "jamal crawford status" bullshit in out of the blue.

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

>compared to a 12/3/2 in 26 minute
>no-defending ass Harden (basa'll tell you, people were
>starting to call him a flop), he looked primed to be a star
>that season. Harden busted out in 11-12, after the trade, not
>before.

Harden won 6th man of the year in 2011-2012 season, where he averaged those numbers I thought were the same year as Gordon's best year. Harden "broke out" that year - when they went to the Finals. He was ghost in the Finals and that was the big story. If he was a flop during that, who would have talked about it?

No, Harden broke out that year. When he got traded is when people saw him as a superstar, but Harden was a beast his last year with OKC and everyone admitted it. Prior to that, fine, but look at his numbers at the end of that season.

As for all your other shit - fine, Crawford was way less efficient than Gordon at their peaks, but the numbers aren't nearly as off as you seem to think they are. Still, the trade was a complete bust (if you overlook the possibility that its what led to AD - though that's impossible to figure out).

But it's because he got hurt.

You get it?

Nope, I know you dont. Cuz your bitter the Lakers don't have CP3.

So go cry some more.

>But it's because he got hurt.
>
>You get it?
>
>Nope, I know you dont. Cuz your bitter the Lakers don't have
>CP3.
>
>So go cry some more.

b) own up to your dumb ass statement with Rose and Russ

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and edited. heh.
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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

I didn't say the Russy/Rose bit. I'm also not underselling Gordon. I am telling it like it was-- he was the best young SG in the country, averaging 25 before his wrist injury, ending up with 22 for the season. At age 22. Today, any player averaging 22 PPG by age 22 is penciled in for countless ASGs and is labeled as having franchise potential.

Also, he was absolutely better than pre-Rockets Harden. Not at shooting the 3, and not at keeping his wrist and knee straight. But in pretty much every other facet of the game. Seeing as how Gordon feasted on first units (while also defending!) at age 22, I'm 100% confident he also would've won sixth man in relief of Durant and Russy if their positions were switched. That's obviously a hypothetical, but again, before the knee gave out, I'm pretty confident OKC would've dealt Harden for Gordon straight up. Gordon was better in high school, better in college, and better to date in the pros.

If you want to hold the injuries against him, that's totally fair game. But to say people viewed him as a Jamal Crawford type before the ensuing wrist and knee injuries is revisionist history based on the fact that he never reached full potential due to injury.

a better shooter and defender than both.

And the best young sg in the league.

And his career is in the shitter.

or whatever you said.

16.4 PPG, 4.2 reb, 2.9 ast, 1.5 stl, on 44% shooting in 26 mins a game?

Or:

22 PPG, 2.9 reb, 4.4 ast, 1.3 stl, on 45% shooting in 37 mins a game?

Acting like he's SO FAR beyond Harden at that point is a little crazy. Plus, Harden played all 82 games and put those numbers up along with 2 ball dominant players. Gordon played 56.

And the answer is obviously Gordon cuz I liked his game better. He just had injury issues.

Still though, Harden's '12 season is comparable to Gordon's peak '11 season (pre trade obviously), and it was pretty clear Harden was better. Might not have said that at the time though so fair point.

And hasn't been the same since. So there's that.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wltr.gif

wat.

that relied heavily on his athleticism and quickness. It was obvious that it wasn't going to end pretty. He was basically a poor man's D-Wade with a lower ceiling and a lower floor.

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You stay posting some dumb shit.

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Who also has not played as well as Gordon did prior to his injuries.

How did you not understand?

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as much as Gordon did, Beal will be like Ray Allen bussing fools into his late 30's

Cuz I know you didn't if you compared him to D-Wade.

I vaguely remember that's what they were trying to do in that original deal but NOLA held out for Eric Gordon instead... NOLA could have had Bledsoe as their PG going forward and not traded that pick that turned out to be Nerlens Noel for Jrue Holiday. I really do think the time Bledsoe spent with CP3 really changed his trajectory as a player though, his rookie year he was so raw at running the point and he's not the purest PG now either, but he definitely picked up some of CP3's tricks by playing with him.

So of course we essentially chose Austin Rivers over Eric Bledsoe.


*sobs*

As Gordon was a far greater asset at the time.

But if Bledsoe had been thrown in in addition to Gordon (instead of the Minny pick, as Kajun noted above), yes, he'd be playing alongside AD and that would be awesome (and TRBO would jizz his pants nightly).

at the time.

Cuz he was.

A lot better than BLEDSOE

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