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2373542, OKP Survivor X 2014-15 Preseason Kickoff Post
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-15-14 11:07 AM
http://hoops.sports.ws/

They've done some new, sexy things to the site that I like and the phone functionality has improved significantly. I think I might paypal them a few bucks just off GP. These guys were the right owners and we all benefit from it. Join the league (info below) and play around with some of the new features.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Roster:

1) Robe
2) The Deputy Commish
3) The Commish
4) Frank Longo
5) Theo
6) Ernie
7) Matty Ice
8) Basa
9) Boogs
10)LABeat
11)Ryan M
12)TJT
13)Shawn
14)Ceej
15)Magilla
16)TheRealBillyOcean

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bidness:

The league has been set up: OKP Survivor Season X: A Kings Robe
Go Join Now!
Password: http://youtu.be/vdtZmPEsXwY (No spaces...all one word)
Logo -
http://basketball.sports.ws/media/league/11210a0eeded9b402779bd616ce2059c.jpg

Vote results:
1)New Entry Fee:
14 votes-
9 for option 3 ($60 going forward)
5 for option 1 ($100 going forward)
New fee is $60 going forward (until we decide on another increase)

2)Fanduel-
10 to 1 for Nay

3)Division Draft/Realignment
7-3 Yay - Most prevalent choice was to randomize rather than draft and Cenario proposed an idea so I'll let the league choose between the two and we'll do whichever is chose and immediately assign divisions.

Draft:

-Friday, Oct 17 (Noon EST) thru Sunday, Oct 19 (6pm EST): 8 hour time limit to pick. Set contingencies because the clock will even run overnight.

-Sunday, Oct 19 (6pm EST) thru Monday, Oct 20, (Noon EST) clock off but picks can still be made.

-Monday, Oct 20, Noon-1pm EST, LIVE Draft* (see below on time limit).
1pm-5pm EST, Slow draft, 12 min time limit.

-Draft continues untimed from 5pm EST through noon EST on Tuesday, Oct 21st.

-(If necessary)Tuesday, Oct 21, Noon-1pm EST, LIVE Draft* (see below on time limit).
1pm-5pm EST, Slow draft, 15 min time limit.

*Live draft time limit will be determined by how much we finish over the weekend. If we finish between 2.5 to 3 rounds, the Live draft pick time limit will be 5 mins. If we finish less than 2.5 rounds, the Live draft pick time limit will be 3 mins.

FEE:
Fee of $60 will be due Thursday, October 23rd. Late payment results in loss of IR benefit for the entire season.

There's an additional $160 added to the pot this year so the below would be the payouts:
-Division Winners: $60 ($50 prior)
-Runner Up: $240 ($200 prior)
-Champion: $480 ($400 prior)

However, I've proposed a few participation ideas that would decrease the pot by $30. If we agree on one of those, I'll dock $20 from the winner and $10 from the runner up pot ($460 & $230).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Participation exercises:
-This season everyone will contribute to the rankings video. We'll be inboxing/announcing in the season posts in regard to who's up next. This will require 2 things: audio (most phones have a voice recorder) and email to send the audio.

-As this is the 10th season we've been at this, I'm thinking for those of us that are unfamiliar with each other IRL, we could all submit one pic for usage in the rankings videos (I did this for a few of us last season...Basa, Shawn, Ceej...felt like it brought some humanity to you inhumane bastids lol).

-There have been some ideas thrown around regarding creative ways to maintain participation (Pot for best 3 year avg) and I have a few suggestions:

1)The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through adversity.

OR

2)The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage participation even if your team sucks because it's based on wit moreso than standings.

I'll post these for vote also.

Once again...IT'S ON!!!!

2373544, NO...on both participation ideas...put that money in the pot.
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Oct-01-14 10:36 AM
2373549, No to the participation ideas. I want my money.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-01-14 10:46 AM
2373552, Votes:
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 10:48 AM
Vote on both here:

Vote 1)Division Draft/Realignment
A-Most prevalent choice was to randomize (I'll find an online randomizer and rock 'n roll from there)

B-Cenario's Alphabets:

I put all the managers in alphabetical order according to their login name on ws and came up with this. Seems pretty fair to me...

AB
basa
Ceej
Cenario

deyote
Ernie
Frank
Jboogs

jerseytornado
Labeat
magilla
realbilly

Rob
ryan
shawn
theo

Vote 2)Participation Ideas

A-The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through adversity.

B-The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage participation even if your team sucks because it's based wit moreso than standings.

C-None of the above
2373553, One of Cenario's Alphabet divisions is a cakewalk.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-01-14 10:51 AM
I won't say which, but I think we all know which.

If "fairness" is the aim, then determine the records (or the win %) for the owners over the last 3 years and distribute the owners evenly, which would be pretty damn easy to do.

Otherwise, just randomize.
2373554, There's a former champ in each division
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 10:54 AM
Multiples in a few and runner ups in the other 2 that don't have multiple champs.

Seems somewhat even. I'm not opposed to doing the 'math' based divisions but saying, I don't think C's suggestion is slanted.
2373556, I mean, I'm obviously just eyeballing it.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-01-14 11:01 AM
I don't think it's obscenely slanted. But one of those former champs... if I had his division, I'd be dancing.

I think if fairness is the aim, like I said, there's a way to ensure that the teams are organized as they have trended over the last three seasons.
2373558, ^^^Just called LABeat wack on the sly lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 11:03 AM
We'll see how it plays out. I'm cool with the 3 yr avg deal.
2373559, basically.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 11:12 AM
2373569, wel since ive won the walton on more than one occcasion
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-01-14 11:33 AM
and dont have a title ..i guess that is pretty wack
2373555, RE: Votes:
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Oct-01-14 10:58 AM
vote 1: randomize

vote 2. non of the above
2373557, As for Vote 2, I vote C. Officially.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-01-14 11:02 AM
2373560, RE: Votes:
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-01-14 11:13 AM
1) I don't have a preference. I like B because I know right now, but if we can randomize quickly cool. (As an aside, I was hoping that we'd luck into the draft next week because I have the week off, but no dice).

2) No and no. I don't think 30 dollars is going to motivate people to participate or not participate.
2373571, 1 B, 2 C
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 11:33 AM
2373811, RE: Votes:
Posted by thejerseytornado, Thu Oct-02-14 10:20 AM
1: i'm confused. there are new options now
2: C. there's a new option now also?

>Vote 2)Participation Ideas
>
>A-The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive
>half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those
>at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through
>adversity.
>
>B-The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker
>gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage
>participation even if your team sucks because it's based wit
>moreso than standings.
>
>C-None of the above


-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2373816, RE: Votes:
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-02-14 10:36 AM
>1: i'm confused. there are new options now
>2: C. there's a new option now also?

1: Yeah, this one is becoming organic. Just weigh in on which you think works best. When the smoke clears we'll ride with majority. Seems like everyone likes Frank's ideas so we might be rolling with that one.

2: We'll only consider Shawn's option if people want a change. If most people choose no change then no point in discussing $20. We might discuss a different split for the payout though.
2374208, frank's is cool by me
Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Oct-03-14 12:14 PM
payouts, screw losers. give that money to the top of the league. so go with the 480/240/60 or 500/220/60.

-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2373819, Vote: change, shawns option. I want to be cool like Frank
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-02-14 10:45 AM
2374294, 1 A, 2 C
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Oct-03-14 03:46 PM
2376495, wrong spot
Posted by rob, Fri Oct-10-14 10:33 AM
meh
2373561, What exactly is random btw for draft order?
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 11:16 AM
like is there an application where you can plug in the names and they'll split them into 4 groups?

And are people gonna complain about it like they do with random draft order lol?

I felt my idea was 'random' and still had transparency.
2373563, There are sites that randomize
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 11:22 AM
And it can be transparent as you can all see it happen. I can do like I do with the draft and announce the time/ask for witnesses.

I'm actually leaning more towards Frank's idea but with a few tweaks (I'd keep last years division winners in the same divisions and assign everyone else by 3yr avg...would keep a lil continuity).
2373564, oh we're totally going to get good teams clumped
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-01-14 11:25 AM
random definitely doesn't guarantee fair. if we get 3 winners and a contender in a group of 4, we gonna just re-randomize? again? or play it as it lies.

either way, need to get it over with.
2373568, right...especially if we are going to stick with what we have for 3 years
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 11:31 AM
Or so...

I'd rather a system that has some rhyme or reason to it. Or at least looks fair. Lol

Think i'm going with what my alphabet joint
2373574, NOPE...randomize. stop tryna be "realistic"
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Oct-01-14 11:36 AM
nothing worse than fantasy cats tryna play like we really owners and GMs...just pick your players and be quiet.

i already see it coming. y'all bout to bicker over this dumb shyt for days and then there'll be ANOTHER vote that only the MOST PRESSED among us care about and it's invariably gonna favor the MOST PRESSED dudes.

y'all need to chill, man. stop JOCKEYING for every bit of leverage. draft, work the wire and stop being pressed.
2373580, lol @ leverage
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 11:45 AM
If we are giving prizes for division and conf winners, its a very valid issue... last few years, the divisions/ conf been a bit uneven.


I mean, you're usually checked out by the race war anyway so I doubt you'd notice.
2373588, i actually don't care. i just want to move on.
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-01-14 11:53 AM
but i know why folks want to make the change, and i just want to make sure everyone knows that there's no magic random button that's going to make it fair.

alphabetical actually looks surprisingly even (and psh, labeat has been good and TBO will keep getting better) right now...most randomized groupings will be worse.

but even if the balls bounce perfectly....someone will get a job or have a kid or work on a project or need to dote on a girlfriend and it will unbalance again.
2373593, Random isn't fair but it's random
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 12:04 PM
Next year we do it again.


Again I'm all for fuck conferences and divisions

Best teams move on- he'll reduce playoff teams
2373596, but what's good about random?
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-01-14 12:21 PM
(note, i don't actually care in terms of it affecting teams but i think it's an interesting question)

i like divisions because i can't really pay attention to 15 teams and owner's styles. it would be okay if it was a keeper league and team personalities developed over time?

but since it's not...i like knowing ab and labeat and ceej's tendencies and i'll enjoy getting a feel for 3 new owners.
2373621, RE: but what's good about random?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 12:44 PM
That it's random. The whole play where it lays hand you're dealt thing- similar to draft order.

In most my other leagues people don't really think twice about divisions. You get what you get and you don't get upset.

Of course this only works if you switch every year whih you seem to be against.
2373631, This league specifically rewards division and conf champs with
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 01:07 PM
money. if we weren't doing that, I wouldn't care about divisions being 'fair'.
2373646, Do we agree all 4th seeds will always suck and can't get better?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 01:37 PM
Again fuck conferences and divisions spread the pot out to top finishers

Race to the top
2373626, How does your strategy differ depending in what division your in
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 12:53 PM
You draft based off your division?
Do you play different lineups if Ceej likes to play rockets ball and jack 3s vs AB who slows down the tempo? Wtf
I draft based on the league.
2373694, it's not about winning, it's about fun.
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-01-14 04:39 PM
i can pay attention to the 4 teams in my division on a daily basis. i can know without scrolling through sports.ws that if dwight howard dropped 90 fp on someone and it wasn't on me, labeat is probably making ab sweat. that's fun for me.

i can't keep track of 16. if we did away with divisions, i'd just be minding my own game to game and maybe just watching the top spots instead of the lovable losers and grinders in the league.

i understand other people gain enjoyment from survivor from different sources, but that's how i feel. throw whoever in my division and i'll try to win it....i just don't want to be in a division full of losers who make it too easy.
2373585, Live draft order via google hangouts
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 11:50 AM
I'm on my phone so excuse the typos

Ab writes names puts them in envelope, opens envelope

Can we change the main payout at all? If so I propose 200 flat for second - fuck second.

Then that 20 can go towards loser award. I like that idea
Still keeps pt nice for winner.

To sweeten it more the other 20 goes to champ for $500 flat for champ. Like I said, fuck second.

I want random division and re random every year. Or again I say fuck divisions and do 2 conferences, or even more revolutionary fuck divisions and conferences and the best teams make playoffs. I like that idea best. Who needs manufactured rivalries.

2 suggestions via blowhards- in that league best week writes updates. We don't have weeks in the same way as football but highest avg over x time period can do the write up.

Also easiest way I think to see faces and keep everyone involved even via offseason as some of us don't post on okp as much is to create a survivor facebook group for everyone who has facebook. We should definitely do it and I'll do it on my own even if you may it AB.
Don't like shittalking award that's just gotta be organic. Facebook will help.

>http://hoops.sports.ws/
>
>They've done some new, sexy things to the site that I like and
>the phone functionality has improved significantly. I think I
>might paypal them a few bucks just off GP. These guys were
>the right owners and we all benefit from it. Join the league
>(info below) and play around with some of the new features.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Roster:
>
>1) Robe
>2) The Deputy Commish
>3) The Commish
>4) Frank Longo
>5) Theo
>6) Ernie
>7) Matty Ice
>8) Basa
>9) Boogs
>10)LABeat
>11)Ryan M
>12)TJT
>13)Shawn
>14)Ceej
>15)Magilla
>16)TheRealBillyOcean
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Bidness:
>
>The league has been set up: OKP Survivor Season X: A Kings
>Robe
>Go Join Now!
>Password: http://youtu.be/vdtZmPEsXwY (No spaces...all one
>word)
>Logo -
>http://basketball.sports.ws/media/league/11210a0eeded9b402779bd616ce2059c.jpg
>
>Vote results:
>1)New Entry Fee:
>14 votes-
>9 for option 3 ($60 going forward)
>5 for option 1 ($100 going forward)
>New fee is $60 going forward (until we decide on another
>increase)
>
>2)Fanduel-
>10 to 1 for Nay
>
>3)Division Draft/Realignment
>7-3 Yay - Most prevalent choice was to randomize rather than
>draft and Cenario proposed an idea so I'll let the league
>choose between the two and we'll do whichever is chose and
>immediately assign divisions.
>
>Draft:
>
>-Friday, Oct 17 (Noon EST) thru Sunday, Oct 19 (6pm EST): 8
>hour time limit to pick. Set contingencies because the clock
>will even run overnight.
>
>-Sunday, Oct 19 (6pm EST) thru Monday, Oct 20, (Noon EST)
>clock off but picks can still be made.
>
>-Monday, Oct 20, Noon-1pm EST, LIVE Draft* (see below on time
>limit).
>1pm-5pm EST, Slow draft, 12 min time limit.
>
>-Draft continues untimed from 5pm EST through noon EST on
>Tuesday, Oct 21st.
>
>-(If necessary)Tuesday, Oct 21, Noon-1pm EST, LIVE Draft* (see
>below on time limit).
>1pm-5pm EST, Slow draft, 15 min time limit.
>
>*Live draft time limit will be determined by how much we
>finish over the weekend. If we finish between 2.5 to 3 rounds,
>the Live draft pick time limit will be 5 mins. If we finish
>less than 2.5 rounds, the Live draft pick time limit will be 3
>mins.
>
>FEE:
>Fee of $60 will be due Thursday, October 23rd. Late payment
>results in loss of IR benefit for the entire season.
>
>There's an additional $160 added to the pot this year so the
>below would be the payouts:
>-Division Winners: $60 ($50 prior)
>-Runner Up: $240 ($200 prior)
>-Champion: $480 ($400 prior)
>
>However, I've proposed a few participation ideas that would
>decrease the pot by $30. If we agree on one of those, I'll
>dock $20 from the winner and $10 from the runner up pot ($460
>& $230).
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Participation exercises:
>-This season everyone will contribute to the rankings video.
>We'll be inboxing/announcing in the season posts in regard to
>who's up next. This will require 2 things: audio (most phones
>have a voice recorder) and email to send the audio.
>
>-As this is the 10th season we've been at this, I'm thinking
>for those of us that are unfamiliar with each other IRL, we
>could all submit one pic for usage in the rankings videos (I
>did this for a few of us last season...Basa, Shawn,
>Ceej...felt like it brought some humanity to you inhumane
>bastids lol).
>
>-There have been some ideas thrown around regarding creative
>ways to maintain participation (Pot for best 3 year avg) and I
>have a few suggestions:
>
>1)The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive
>half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those
>at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through
>adversity.
>
>OR
>
>2)The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker
>gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage
>participation even if your team sucks because it's based on
>wit moreso than standings.
>
>I'll post these for vote also.
>
>Once again...IT'S ON!!!!
>
>
2373605, sorry bro i dont fk with devilsbook and wont start bcz of this league
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-01-14 12:31 PM
2373618, For some reason I thought you were in
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 12:39 PM
>
Doesn't matter nobody needs to create an acct. I doubt basa will join the group. Just for everyone else whose on it makes sense
2373643, I don't blame you...we all shouldn't
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 01:30 PM
2373645, I'd be cool on this if everyone agreed:
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 01:37 PM
>Can we change the main payout at all? If so I propose 200 flat
>for second - fuck second.
>
>Then that 20 can go towards loser award. I like that idea
>Still keeps pt nice for winner.
>
>To sweeten it more the other 20 goes to champ for $500 flat
>for champ. Like I said, fuck second.

$500 winner
$200 runner up
$60 division winners
$20 loser award

I could go for this. Everything else you typed is just tedious. Being a bit of a traditionalist, I like the structure and until the NBA deems divisions & conferences unnecessary, I'm probably gonna ride with that. And personally, I don't like changing the divisions every year. Maybe every 2-3 seasons if there's some imbalance.
2373617, Frank's idea...for reference:
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 12:39 PM
Based on the last 3 yrs records and avgs

GM: 3yrPPGAvg-Win%-Div Seed
Theo: 277.2-72.4%-1
Rob: 271.8-61.2%-1
Frank: 273.0-60.6%-1
Cenario:263.5-57.6%-1
LABeat: 258.6-57.1%-2
Ern: 259.5-50.6%-2
Mat: 257.4-50.0%-2
Shawn: 264.8-48.8%-2
A_B: 256.8-48.2%-3
TJT 250.2-47.1%-3
Magilla(2): 249.0-45.6%-3
Basa: 256.0-44.1%-3
Ryan: 244.2-44.1%-4
RBO(2): 245.7-42.8%-4
Boogs: 248.5-42.4%-4
Ceej: 245.0-38.8%-4

Div based on Win%
1
Theo: 277.2-72.4%-1
LABeat: 258.6-57.1%-2
A_B: 256.8-48.2%-3
Ryan: 244.2-44.1%-4

2
Rob: 271.8-61.2%-1
Ern: 259.5-50.6%-2
TJT 250.2-47.1%-3
RBO(2): 245.7-42.8%-4

3
Frank: 273.0-60.6%-1
Mat: 257.4-50.0%-2
Magilla(2): 249.0-45.6%-3
Boogs: 248.5-42.4%-4

4
Cenario:263.5-57.6%-1
Shawn: 264.8-48.8%-2
Basa: 256.0-44.1%-3
Ceej: 245.0-38.8%-4

*Magilla and RBO's stats are based off 2 seasons as they joined to replace Shells and KC 2 yrs ago.
2373623, This seems pretty fair is it long term?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-01-14 12:48 PM
I was sure if be a 4th seed
2373648, We could do it this way every 3 yrs, based on the prior 3 yrs
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-01-14 01:38 PM
performance. That actually seems like what we SHOULD do.
2373651, I agree with a 3 year run as well.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 01:40 PM
2373633, seems fair to me as well
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 01:10 PM
smh at Theo's record...surprised boogs isn't higher...I think he had just 1 awful year.
2373905, 70%+ Club
Posted by theothursdays, Thu Oct-02-14 04:54 PM
2373638, Would prefer Ceej and Bags, but whatever
Posted by ErnestLee, Wed Oct-01-14 01:20 PM
2373640, I would prefer $60 but whatever.
Posted by Ceej, Wed Oct-01-14 01:22 PM
2375169, and, as usual, the Tigers flop as soon as you start this
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Oct-06-14 01:05 PM
SMH. get over yourself, champ.
2373695, shit i'm better at this than i thought i was.
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-01-14 04:40 PM
that looks fine to me
2373697, damn i didn't peep you up there lol nice.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-01-14 04:53 PM
2373698, Again, if "fairness" is the aim, this seems to be the most fair option.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-01-14 04:55 PM
2373774, cool
Posted by JBoogs, Thu Oct-02-14 12:16 AM
and damn my teams have been shitty lately....


***************
I've traveled far and wide through many different times...
2374327, Damn, you are the true personification of the Buffalo Bills
Posted by theothursdays, Fri Oct-03-14 07:30 PM
2373904, Gettin the Walton* back together!
Posted by theothursdays, Thu Oct-02-14 04:53 PM
* -shawn
2373929, me: finally getting away from Theo
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-02-14 06:09 PM
2373917, boogs we could rekindle our rivalry!! throwback!
Posted by illmattic, Thu Oct-02-14 05:21 PM
2374178, my new school blocks sports.ws...this might be a problem
Posted by rob, Fri Oct-03-14 10:54 AM
they have the most arbitrary internet filters.
2374179, my old one did "gambling site"
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-03-14 10:59 AM
lucky for you phone is more robust
2374196, Phone access is pretty fluid.
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-03-14 11:39 AM
Though I suggest bring a tablet for the draft lol
2374231, there might be a workaround
Posted by Ceej, Fri Oct-03-14 01:07 PM
google sports.ws but click one of the sublinks, not the main one.
2374329, welcome to the struggle
Posted by theothursdays, Fri Oct-03-14 07:33 PM
2374227, DRAFT ORDER!
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-03-14 12:58 PM
2374242, lol
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-03-14 01:24 PM
2375012, do something about this mr. silver.
Posted by rob, Mon Oct-06-14 09:04 AM
2374273, If we had 16 teams, that would be cool...
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-03-14 02:29 PM
2374275, ****SCHMONEY!!!****
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-03-14 02:32 PM
Paypal: $60, emystery@yahoo.com (use the gift option to avoid the fee)

Hey...we got 6 GM's in (including me). How ya'll gonna respond in the post but not create a team? WTH?

Also, does anyone object to changing the winner/runner up payout?

$500 smooth for the champ
$220 for the runner up
2374393, Lets go sign up!!! Draft Order!
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-04-14 07:01 AM
Did everyone confirm theyre coming back? I know Magilla just had a kid. Have we heard from him at all?
2374983, 10 in 6 left
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Oct-06-14 01:50 AM
2375107, LOL @ Rob and theo's team names
Posted by Cenario, Mon Oct-06-14 11:04 AM
2375495, i believe we still need matinho, magilla and rbo
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-07-14 10:06 AM
has anyone seen magilla?
2375609, ill contact all
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-07-14 01:39 PM
2375851, All seem to be in
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-08-14 10:11 AM
2375847, So who gave my video a thumbs down? lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-08-14 10:01 AM
talk about hate. smh

Where's RBO, Mat and Magilla?

I was thinking of setting the draft order this Friday.

No one had any opinion on the payout change? Can I assume that it's ok? ($500 winner, $220 runner up)

Once again, THEO, you are NOT a location. Smh
2375854, payouts are fine.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-08-14 10:15 AM
draft Order!!!!!

i'm assuming we rolling with frank's divisions?.
2375864, Fine as they are or are you fine with the change?
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-08-14 10:44 AM
CLARITY!!! lol
2375867, yes.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-08-14 10:51 AM
lol my bad..the new proposal.
2375858, Today is my Friday
Posted by ErnestLee, Wed Oct-08-14 10:30 AM

>
>I was thinking of setting the draft order this Friday.
2375859, same. DO THIS SHIT.
Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Oct-08-14 10:37 AM

-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2375865, You guys are soooo thirsty hahahah
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-08-14 10:45 AM
Can we get all 16 teams before you all start the "DRAFT ORDER NOW!!!: picket signs? lol
2375866, Why? We know they're playing
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-08-14 10:48 AM
If one drops out new guy gets that draft spot.

Go!
2375869, someone's gotta create their teams to do the draft order on ws tho.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-08-14 10:52 AM
i mean i guess AB could do it and they could change it later.
2375871, Shut up Smithers
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-08-14 11:08 AM
For some reason I thought he was doing the draft order offline and then inputting them.
2375876, lol i think we always do it online..the offline talk was about the divisions.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-08-14 11:22 AM
don't be mad cause i'm gaining on you in the LVH pool lol
2376244, start taking away ir if cats don't sign up lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-09-14 01:05 PM
wtf.
2376248, Magilla and Mat...is Wayne Brady gonna have to cut a b***h?
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-09-14 01:27 PM
2376310, i signed up!
Posted by illmattic, Thu Oct-09-14 04:10 PM
last week
2376318, I told Shawn I'd sign up by today.
Posted by magilla vanilla, Thu Oct-09-14 04:32 PM
and lo and behold.

My sabermetric, playoff-missin' ass is here.

Now buy my photozine so I can pay the league fees!

VVVVVVVVVVVVVV
2376328, Missing 1
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-09-14 04:50 PM
2376332, It's Frank!!! lol C'MON GUY!!!
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-09-14 05:01 PM
Had the 2nd post in here but hasn't joined the league. SMH
2376433, Were full- let's rock
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 05:57 AM
2376444, Friday.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 08:08 AM
2376477, ****ATTENTION: RE DRAFT ORDER (and other stuff)****
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:02 AM
1) Fee = Paypal: $60, emystery@yahoo.com (use the gift option to avoid the fee) due Thursday, October 23rd.

2) New payout scheme: $60 Div Winners, $500 Winner, $220 Runner up

3) Divisions/conferences:
Conference Blanc-
The Big Red
Theo
LABeat
A_B
Ryan

The Elevator (NEW-In honor of Ernie Johnson)
Cenario
Shawn
Basa
Ceej

Conference Noir
The Round Mound
Rob
Ern
TJT
RBO

The Jet
Frank
Mat
Magilla
Boogs

4) I will start the draft order as soon as I get 2 witnesses to log on to the site. STAT!!!

2376479, in...pls give me a top 9 pick. I have no idea what i'm gonna do bet'n 10-32
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:04 AM
10-32
2376488, RIGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Oct-10-14 10:22 AM
i see it
2376490, lol what is it 9?
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:25 AM
2376483, On
Posted by ErnestLee, Fri Oct-10-14 10:15 AM
2376484, About to start the draft order
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:18 AM
2376485, Draft order set
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:20 AM
2376487, HALLELUJAH PRAISE BABY JESUS ON ALLAH'S THRONE
Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Oct-10-14 10:22 AM
GILDED WITH MY JEWISH PEOPLE'S GOLD WITH BUDDHA'S SMILE!

top 2 pick! TOP 2 PICK!

-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2376491, but where do i get to see the whole draft order?
Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Oct-10-14 10:25 AM
i'm confused by the new look. also, it's loading crazy slow.

edit: oh, it's under quick nav. who knew you needed to click there?

-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2376494, this
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:26 AM
>also, it's loading crazy slow.
2376503, the new look of teh draft sucks dick
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 10:42 AM
2376509, it sure does...everyone should change their team to their login for easy
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:54 AM
identification for the draft.
2376486, what pick i get...dumb page won't load
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:22 AM
2376489, stop lyin niggga
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Oct-10-14 10:23 AM
2376492, Lol seriously.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:25 AM
2376493, Lol seriously.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:25 AM
2376496, No. 1...lucky bastid lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:34 AM
2376498, 14? dick. ima draft rose and kobe and they're gonna be gooooood
Posted by rob, Fri Oct-10-14 10:35 AM
also, no turn picks or near turn picks. i see you.
2376500, Good luck repeating...virtually impossible in this league
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:40 AM
I've already ruled you out of the running lol
2376504, same here...wtf
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 10:43 AM
2376499, #8? Guess I'm drafting D-Rose again smh
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:38 AM
And why do I play Theo 3 of the first 5 games? lmao.

2376497, oh.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:35 AM
http://33.media.tumblr.com/715f740df7753bde2adc5419bfa99362/tumblr_n85k6ub7111twulego1_400.gif
2376502, LOL
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 10:42 AM
>http://33.media.tumblr.com/715f740df7753bde2adc5419bfa99362/tumblr_n85k6ub7111twulego1_400.gif
2376505, good luck deciding between Lebron and Anthony Davis
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 10:43 AM
2376507, is this like when you tried to discourage me from drafting love last year?
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:50 AM
lol
2376501, BULLSHIT
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 10:41 AM
2376506, Can we add roster spots in the league - is that an optionyet?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 10:44 AM
2376508, Whats the historicla breakdown on guys who got a top 3 or 5 pick
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 10:50 AM
2376513, Here
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 11:07 AM
Year 1
Magilla
DunDada
Shawn
Theo
Radin (RIP)

Year 2
(offline)

Year 3
Boogs
AB
Polvitos
Ceej
Atari

Year 4
Ryan
Beathustla
Cenario
Ceej
Basa

Year 5
Ernie
Cenario
Basa
AB
Beathustla

Year 6
AB
Basa
Celery
Robe
Shelly

Year 7
Robe
Beathustla
Boogs
Longo
Theo

Year 8
Longo
Ceej
Cenario
Shawn
Ryan

Year 9
Robe
Longo
Cenario
Beathustla
Shawn

Year 10
Cenario
TJT
Ernie
Ryan
Theo
2376515, LOL the draft loves Cenario Gilbert
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 11:16 AM
LABeat had a nice lil run too
2376518, Was year 5 his first year?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 11:23 AM
2376525, Shawn? You ok bro?
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 11:50 AM
Year 4 <---you posted this
Ryan
Beathustla
Cenario <---???
Ceej
Basa

Kids driving you nuts? C'mon!!!!

Maybe we should start the draft today...some of y'all are off y'alls square. I should take advantage.
2376526, I meant 4 lol
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 11:52 AM
But yea lets start today
2376533, yeah it was...i was shark status prior to.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 12:13 PM
I've had a few top 3 picks and i think i tried to trade them every year lol
2376669, note that i have never received a top 5 pick in TEN YEARS...
Posted by illmattic, Sat Oct-11-14 12:21 PM
not once... thats ridiculous

i get fucked mercilessly by this draft order every single year. not having top 5 is fine, assuming i dont continue to get picks in the middle to bottom in each consecutive round which is what always seems to happen. it's been irritating me for a while

picks 9, 10, 8 this year in the 1st, 3rd, 5th.. fantastic. throw me a bone for once.
2376510, Can we start drafting or do I have to wait?
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:58 AM
lolz.
2376519, Go!
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 11:29 AM
2376511, If anyone in the top five picks wouldn't mind moving back to seven...
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Oct-10-14 11:00 AM
... I'd make it worth your while.

That having been said, since I don't really expect anyone to move, this might be the first year in a couple of seasons I'm happy with my draft spot.
2376546, Interested
Posted by ErnestLee, Fri Oct-10-14 12:45 PM
2376527, AB give me your login info
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 12:01 PM
or if you can give me access as an assistant commish so I can do draftmaster duties.

I got everyone on text except Basa and can move things along easily at my job except Wednesdays (which we prolly wont need)
2376541, no one ever needs to text me because i don't hold things up
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Oct-10-14 12:35 PM
2376543, its happened a couple times
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 12:37 PM
2376561, yeah...but, those were in protest of people holding things up
Posted by Basaglia, Fri Oct-10-14 01:37 PM
sorry.




2376548, annual *heading out to the fair wont be avail til sun eve* (c)KCPlayer21
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Oct-10-14 12:53 PM
see yall sunday
2376549, LOL
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Oct-10-14 12:56 PM
2376550, I got your number anyway fool
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-10-14 12:57 PM
2376551, lol
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 12:57 PM
2376603, lol
Posted by JBoogs, Fri Oct-10-14 05:14 PM

***************
I've traveled far and wide through many different times...
2376631, lol
Posted by ErnestLee, Fri Oct-10-14 10:03 PM
http://basketball.sports.ws/fantasy/Gerald-Henderson
2376632, smh
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-10-14 10:39 PM
2376675, i acknowledge that survivor is starting
Posted by Basaglia, Sat Oct-11-14 01:11 PM
and that you feel the need to poke at me.

and that you pressed as fuck.

it's a tradition.
2376647, NO IR players you draft that are injured
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 07:53 AM
we talked about this last year but can we agree thats not how it should work?

You shouldnt be able to draft a guy whose already hurt and IR him
2376648, We happy with their positions?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 07:55 AM
Ive always been a play as a it lays guys but I know you guys liek to change.

Looking at the rosters--theres a shitload of guys who got the FC treatment that wed consider iffy in seasons past.

GF is cool, I actually prefer to be liberal there, but with so many FCs it almost makes the true C (only) obselete.
2376655, stop whining and start drafting
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat Oct-11-14 09:24 AM
2376658, Yea I see a few surprises, but nothing terribly egregious
Posted by ErnestLee, Sat Oct-11-14 09:48 AM
Play it as it lies.
2376661, ^^drafting klove 3
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 10:12 AM
2376663, wait "random" draft gave my division the 2nd, 3rd, and 16/17 picks?
Posted by rob, Sat Oct-11-14 10:46 AM
damn, a_b, you didn't have to bury me like that.
2376664, You may be onto something!
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 10:48 AM
Check other divisions. Redraft order!
2376670, yes please
Posted by illmattic, Sat Oct-11-14 12:26 PM
>Check other divisions. Redraft order!
2376672, I checked it out...seems fine to me.
Posted by Cenario, Sat Oct-11-14 12:51 PM
2376674, i'm sure it does. i'm sure it does.
Posted by rob, Sat Oct-11-14 12:57 PM
and i am so serious about it.
2376683, ^^^Has the repeat blues lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Sat Oct-11-14 02:12 PM
2376700, I can talk myself in and out of 6 different guys
Posted by ErnestLee, Sat Oct-11-14 04:09 PM
And I really dont know who is going 1/2. Weird year to be top 5.
2376707, Trade it
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 05:28 PM
My bet is on Bron and sexy Anthony Davis 1-2

Though it could be good ol Bron/Paul
2376716, Told Frank I was interested
Posted by ErnestLee, Sat Oct-11-14 06:02 PM
Havent heard since.
2376747, I got that #2 pick on the back end
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 08:28 PM
I actually spent about 15 min this morning trying to make a deal with you but couldn't get one i like that you'd like.
2376783, Sorry, have been working like fucking crazy.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Oct-11-14 11:44 PM
Shoot me an inbox on Facebook-- I'm more likely to check that with some degree of frequency.
2376784, Is Miles Plumlee a FC this year?
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Oct-11-14 11:50 PM
He wasn't last year, but he's in the WS database this year as one-- if it changes in the WS database, does it change for our league as well?
2376711, This was a perfect weekend to start
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 05:46 PM
3 day weekend for some people + no sports for my son. Were in the woods chillin.
2376718, i ain't done shit all week but help out my mom and grandparents.
Posted by rob, Sat Oct-11-14 06:16 PM
next week is going to be super busy. got to work on contingencies.
2376745, Are you back in Texas?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 08:26 PM
2376751, yep
Posted by rob, Sat Oct-11-14 08:54 PM
2376722, I have a 11am flight on friday morning. how long is the time limit?
Posted by Cenario, Sat Oct-11-14 06:30 PM
I think it's 8 hours. It's only a 6hr flight so I should be straight.
2376746, You going to Cali or London?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 08:26 PM
2376738, START...no limit
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat Oct-11-14 07:55 PM
2376748, Co-sign
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-11-14 08:30 PM
2376777, i bet we could get thru the first 10 real quick
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat Oct-11-14 11:00 PM
2376803, Co sign
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sun Oct-12-14 05:57 AM
The only reason not to do it is to wait out more injuries that could happen
2376829, Dam cuh you just jinxed KD... out 6-8
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Oct-12-14 09:56 AM
2376830, Good let him drop to 15
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sun Oct-12-14 10:02 AM
2376726, oops
Posted by rob, Sat Oct-11-14 07:03 PM
oop
2376831, Dat jones fracture though..... Riskyyyyy
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sun Oct-12-14 10:05 AM
2377384, Uppa
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Oct-13-14 09:57 AM
2377411, Can someone answer reply #167?
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Oct-13-14 11:02 AM
I know I was late to the party, but I'm curious.
2377428, I believe we are playing it as it lies on ws.
Posted by Cenario, Mon Oct-13-14 11:52 AM
2377402, worst part of this league gotta be ranking the bottom at each position
Posted by Cenario, Mon Oct-13-14 10:47 AM
all these dudes suck.
2377444, Why rank the bottom?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Oct-13-14 12:34 PM
I can't believe they still don't have a queue or save list that doesn't automatically get drafted.
2377464, Since you assholes won't start picking.
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Oct-13-14 01:37 PM
Send me trade offers for the 15 and 17.

I'll trade everything or anything maybe I'll experiment this year.
2377468, it's not "you assholes" its smithers.
Posted by thejerseytornado, Mon Oct-13-14 01:41 PM
i'm ready to go whenever he is.
-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2377473, the guy i'm picking has multiple preseason games this week. the 8hr clock
Posted by Cenario, Mon Oct-13-14 01:47 PM
starts at noon friday right? expect my pick around 7:55 pm
2377481, RE: the guy i'm picking has multiple preseason games this week. the 8hr clock
Posted by rob, Mon Oct-13-14 01:56 PM
http://tinyurl.com/nlbs9eg
2377485, lmao
Posted by Cenario, Mon Oct-13-14 02:03 PM
2377598, lol
Posted by JBoogs, Mon Oct-13-14 09:10 PM

***************
I've traveled far and wide through many different times...
2377701, Lmao
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 08:43 AM
2377573, GOOD. More negotiation time.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Oct-13-14 07:59 PM
2377483, oh, there's a draft order
Posted by theothursdays, Mon Oct-13-14 01:59 PM
2377646, We allowing the shady bakers dozen this year?
Posted by ErnestLee, Mon Oct-13-14 11:11 PM
Or are we gonna play it straight.
2377678, A_B hiding
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 07:12 AM
2377705, Hiding from what?
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 08:50 AM
You do this every year. I got no reason to start this draft early.

We get it, you're a premature ejaculator but some of us prefer that long stroke.

Dudes are still getting hurt in preseason and i always put the draft out later for that reason because injuries drastically change the draft. They also make the strategies much more interesting. For someone who always bitches about us being able to IR drafted players, you do yourself no favors by always wanting to start early.

This year neither will change. Deal with it.
2377708, Why you so angry?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 08:59 AM
last time you were here was Oct 11
We had lots of posts. You werent here. You were hiding.
2377732, So me not being on OKP means I was hiding? lol Ok cool
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 09:44 AM
2377709, oh hush....yall jus like this shit to drag out forfkn ever
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-14-14 09:03 AM
shits weak
2377714, I just bodied his lie
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 09:10 AM
If he had something to do with the family this weekend, he shoulda just said so.
2377735, No, I just don't like to draft before most of the preseason is over
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 09:49 AM
I like the draft to be swift which is why I've been very open to the Live Draft.

Like Basa said, we might as well start the draft right after the Draft and FA frenzy...in say August with a 72hr time limit. The only reason these guys want to start early is because of impatience.

SOME might have schedule conflicts but they've known the projected start for almost a month now. We pushed it up early last year because VERY early in the announcement of the draft start, multiple guys negotiated a different start. Very few expressed the same sentiment this year.

Friday is 3 days away. No biggie.
2377752, lame...jus start the fkn draft dude...wtf??
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-14-14 10:09 AM
you niggas act like lil girls....its jus a fucking draft...get the shit over with already....yall wanna stretch it out and have days in the middle of the draft with no time limit..jus waiting to be taken advantage of...


if yall serious about this shit..jus start it and get the shit over with...or EVERYONE block out two fucking days on the weekend and get it over with in 2 days...all this no time limit...8 hour shit is fucking dumb as fuck
2377765, Feel free to take over the Commish job next year.
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 10:32 AM
>you niggas act like lil girls....its jus a fucking
>draft...get the shit over with already....yall wanna stretch
>it out and have days in the middle of the draft with no time
>limit..jus waiting to be taken advantage of...

No, I'm acting like a grown man that doesn't wanna spend the better part of 3 days nurturing a draft because half the league is in meetings and didn't set contingencies. It's been 7 yrs under my helm, I know how it goes. Getting 16 people all on one accord for a 12 round draft was impossible last year. What makes you think it is all of a sudden? We started Friday and finished Sunday last year. I'm hoping for similar results.

>if yall serious about this shit..jus start it and get the shit
>over with...or EVERYONE block out two fucking days on the
>weekend and get it over with in 2 days...all this no time
>limit...8 hour shit is fucking dumb as fuck

I'm serious about starting the draft when I said it was gonna start.

Next year I'm tempted to not do any post on the league and just set up the league, do the draft order and start the draft all on the same Friday.
2377780, what other draft makes concessions for niggas outside lives???
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-14-14 10:51 AM
any other draft... the time is set and its over in a matter of minutes... aint no fucking puzzle.. if you commit to the league then you draft or you get skipped or whatever..

yall treat niggas like babies in here... but act like yall couldnt wait to get it in again..


2377766, it should be Columbus day every year since thats a 3 day wknd
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 10:33 AM
2377783, For who?
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 10:58 AM
No job I've had (corporate) in the last 7 years gave me Columbus day off.

2377784, about 30-50% of the league
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 11:00 AM
LCD

2377713, and to address your points
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 09:09 AM
>You do this every year. I got no reason to start this draft
>early.
>
>We get it, you're a premature ejaculator but some of us prefer
>that long stroke.

First I need to address your terrible analogy. Starting late does not = a longer stroke if the draft ends at the same time for everybody.


>
>Dudes are still getting hurt in preseason and i always put the
>draft out later for that reason because injuries drastically
>change the draft.

Second I need to Address your terrible lying or memory.
"I always put the draft out later for that reason"
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2245939&mesg_id=2245939&listing_type=search

^^^checks date from last year. Oh wait we were done by today last year. So yes, thanks for ALWAYS putting the draft out later. Consistency.




They also make the strategies much more
>interesting.
You could argue that injuries make strategies more interesting whenever you draft it doesnt really matter. We could start a week into the season injuries wil factor in somehow.


For someone who always bitches about us being
>able to IR drafted players, you do yourself no favors by
>always wanting to start early.

LMAO at bitching. Putting up suggestions to improve the league? I put em up there hope people latch on but if not I dont cry. I also been complaining to fix the volleyball rule for years. Nobody does it. I just keep playing volleyball.

>
>This year neither will change. Deal with it.
Cool. We'll try again next year.
2377755, C'mon lil dude
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 10:17 AM
>First I need to address your terrible analogy. Starting late
>does not = a longer stroke if the draft ends at the same time
>for everybody.

Long stroke = being patient to see how things pan out vs wanting to get it over with. I would be VERY upset if I drafted Kevin Durant without preseason being halfway over and he'd be down 2+ months. Regardless of this asinine argument people throw out there EVERY year to justify their impatience because "the draft is the most fun part of the league", preseason MATTERS just like FAgency MATTERS. Some guys are in new situations or are recovering from injuries from the prior year or get injured. As commish, I believe we should all be able to START the season with a healthy roster or as close to a healthy roster as possible. Once the official games start, luck of the draw goes into effect.

If people stopped focusing on the draft being the most fun and actually worked to make the entire SEASON fun, this whole stupid stigma would chill.

>Second I need to Address your terrible lying or memory.
>"I always put the draft out later for that reason"
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2245939&mesg_id=2245939&listing_type=search
>
>^^^checks date from last year. Oh wait we were done by today
>last year. So yes, thanks for ALWAYS putting the draft out
>later. Consistency.

That was the reschedule date genius. Last year Rob and Mat had severe scheduling issues and then you chimed in. A few other guys said they wouldn't mind so we moved the date up. Find the year prior, it was later for the exact same reasons I'm saying now.

>You could argue that injuries make strategies more interesting
>whenever you draft it doesnt really matter. We could start a
>week into the season injuries wil factor in somehow.

^^^1-There's no strategy if you draft a healthy guy and he gets injured before he plays ONE game for you. The draft is over. 2-And why would we start a week into the season? Dumb.

>LMAO at bitching. Putting up suggestions to improve the
>league? I put em up there hope people latch on but if not I
>dont cry. I also been complaining to fix the volleyball rule
>for years. Nobody does it. I just keep playing volleyball.

EVERY season you bring up the same points with no traction: No IRing drafted players, Move up the draft date, No volleyballing for sucky teams (at least early in the season).

You don't have ton of support for these things otherwise they would have changed permanently already. Again, the only reason last year's draft was moved up was a few extreme scheduling conflicts and league support of it. No volleyballing would be cool but we can't manage it fairly and effectively.

And yes, to complain about the same things over and over knowing they won't change = bitching.

>>
>>This year neither will change. Deal with it.
>Cool. We'll try again next year.

^^^Insanity: continuing to do the same thing but expecting to get different results. And who is 'we'. It's just YOU. YOU have the most post in this thread but won't be NEARLY as active during the season. lol
2377782, RE: C'mon lil dude
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 10:58 AM
>>First I need to address your terrible analogy. Starting
>late
>>does not = a longer stroke if the draft ends at the same
>time
>>for everybody.
>
>Long stroke = being patient to see how things pan out vs
>wanting to get it over with. I would be VERY upset if I
>drafted Kevin Durant without preseason being halfway over and
>he'd be down 2+ months. Regardless of this asinine argument
>people throw out there EVERY year to justify their impatience
>because "the draft is the most fun part of the league",
>preseason MATTERS just like FAgency MATTERS. Some guys are in
>new situations or are recovering from injuries from the prior
>year or get injured. As commish, I believe we should all be
>able to START the season with a healthy roster or as close to
>a healthy roster as possible. Once the official games start,
>luck of the draw goes into effect.
>

Why dont we just wait til the last days before the season then? Injuries happen they happen every year. We've had to deal with Durant like situations. All kinds of random shit.



>If people stopped focusing on the draft being the most fun and
>actually worked to make the entire SEASON fun, this whole
>stupid stigma would chill.
>

It is what it is. I play the whole season but the way the league is there are advantages and disadvantages. You dont have a true weekly matchup liek other fantasy leagues, and you play guys over a long course of time. That allows people to just set lineups and cruise. Not your fault just the way it is.

The draft is the most fun because its a time when all of us are active and talking shit and making predictions.



>>Second I need to Address your terrible lying or memory.
>>"I always put the draft out later for that reason"
>>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2245939&mesg_id=2245939&listing_type=search
>>
>>^^^checks date from last year. Oh wait we were done by today
>>last year. So yes, thanks for ALWAYS putting the draft out
>>later. Consistency.
>

Nope. You said ALWAYS.

>That was the reschedule date genius. Last year Rob and Mat
>had severe scheduling issues and then you chimed in. A few
>other guys said they wouldn't mind so we moved the date up.
>Find the year prior, it was later for the exact same reasons
>I'm saying now.
>
>>You could argue that injuries make strategies more
>interesting
>>whenever you draft it doesnt really matter. We could start a
>>week into the season injuries wil factor in somehow.
>
>^^^1-There's no strategy if you draft a healthy guy and he
>gets injured before he plays ONE game for you. The draft is
>over. 2-And why would we start a week into the season? Dumb.

At some point people get injured its sports. KD couldve get injured the day after we draft this year starting this Friday.

You have injuries we know about before and it makes it interesting to see when the injured guys will get hurt. Then you have your post draft injuries that make or break you.


>
>>LMAO at bitching. Putting up suggestions to improve the
>>league? I put em up there hope people latch on but if not I
>>dont cry. I also been complaining to fix the volleyball rule
>>for years. Nobody does it. I just keep playing volleyball.
>
>EVERY season you bring up the same points with no traction: No
>IRing drafted players, Move up the draft date, No
>volleyballing for sucky teams (at least early in the season).

Again. the way our league works guys dont really have much of an opinion. People never want to change anything until the last minute. How many big changes have we passed in this league? Its a big league, lots of our guys arent as active posters anymore -- we havent really passed any major changes in years.

>
>You don't have ton of support for these things otherwise they
>would have changed permanently already. Again, the only reason
>last year's draft was moved up was a few extreme scheduling
>conflicts and league support of it. No volleyballing would be
>cool but we can't manage it fairly and effectively.
>
>And yes, to complain about the same things over and over
>knowing they won't change = bitching.
>
>>>
>>>This year neither will change. Deal with it.
>>Cool. We'll try again next year.
>
>^^^Insanity: continuing to do the same thing but expecting to
>get different results. And who is 'we'. It's just YOU. YOU
>have the most post in this thread but won't be NEARLY as
>active during the season. lol
>
'
Again ill keep trying Maybe it is a bit insane to think this group of guys will care until season starts (ive been guilty of this in the past)-- but I made a conscious effort this year to try to be more involved in voting and put my suggestions in earlier during the preseason- rather than later so maybe it would get some traction. Guess not.

Maybe we need some more survivor housecleaning season 1 style.

Finally, Im gonna jab about getting this started every year. If it works, good. If not I dont really care. Thats just me having fun and being excited about the league getting started.

You wanna talk about Insanity - its you getting mad at the same playful jabs every year. Maybe I forgot how annoying it was to be commissioner. I'd tell you to pass it on but I dont know who else will give a shit all year.
2377789, lol not me.
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 11:05 AM
>I'd tell you to pass it on but I dont know who else will give a shit all year.
2377794, youre next in line
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 11:08 AM
At one point Theo woulda been good but hes not on enough anymore.

Dont know who else.

Maybe Longo.



We could run a rotating chair like a lot of College basketball conferences do, but that will probably cause the league to die.
2377798, Lol not to get all smithery but ya''ll put ab through too much crap.
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 11:12 AM
i'd do it if the league paid my fee.

nah, i probably still wouldn't.
2377804, Its the gift and the curse of being a commish
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 11:24 AM
>i'd do it if the league paid my fee.
>
>nah, i probably still wouldn't.


I got jabbed at for years for teh Polvitos shit and remember becoming annoyed about it. Ceej still throws those jabs in blowhards

On the flipside AB can do shit like say "I dont care what you say the draft time isnt budging"

its the gift and curse of being a commish.
2377810, lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 11:28 AM
>Why dont we just wait til the last days before the season
>then? Injuries happen they happen every year. We've had to
>deal with Durant like situations. All kinds of random shit.

Actually, I'd prefer a 2 day draft the weekend before the season starts, after the ENTIRE preseason. That's what I really want to be honest but again, impatience (usually by roughly 4-5 guys every year) makes me consider an earlier date (usually one week early).

Again, as Commish, I'd like us to all start with as close to a healthy roster as possible. Injury happens DURING the season, it is what it is. No one should be forced to deal with a disadvantage because we couldn't control ourselves. A rational league wouldn't even want to draft until preseason was over.

>The draft is the most fun because its a time when all of us
>are active and talking shit and making predictions.

^^^This is the problem. If we all did this the entire season (and it use to be that way) the league wouldn't be reduced to 'a great draft experience and a ho-hum season' experience. The GM's make a league.

>Nope. You said ALWAYS.

Yup. I ALWAYS do. I didn't say we ALWAYS have a later draft. I said I ALWAYS set it later. I did that, we changed it based on the factors I explained. *shoulder shrug*

>At some point people get injured its sports. KD couldve get
>injured the day after we draft this year starting this Friday.

Yup. But we don't have to draft him top 10 if he's down 2 months (which would definitely happen if he was drafted early in preseason). Having that knowledge AFTER preseason finishes and BEFORE the season starts would make so much sense (and a big difference for WHEN he was drafted). 2 Months is like half our season. I'm sure ALL of us would rather not have to lose our 1st rounder for half the season BEFORE THEY PLAY ONE GAME FOR US.

>You have injuries we know about before and it makes it
>interesting to see when the injured guys will get hurt. Then
>you have your post draft injuries that make or break you.

The only injuries that should matter are in season injuries. No one should be penalized BY the draft FOR the draft. It's always been stupid to me how you want to draft earlier.

>Again. the way our league works guys dont really have much of
>an opinion. People never want to change anything until the
>last minute. How many big changes have we passed in this
>league? Its a big league, lots of our guys arent as active
>posters anymore -- we havent really passed any major changes
>in years.

Major changes we've made since I've been Commish (voted on in the offseason and passed by majority vote):

-Division realignment
-Brand Rule (regarding the pick up of long injured players and eventually led to...)
-IR
-2 fee increases
-Live draft in addition to the snail draft
-Scoring changes (misses being worth -0.3, Makes gaining an extra 0.3)

Change happens and most of us are usually involved.

>Again ill keep trying Maybe it is a bit insane to think this
>group of guys will care until season starts (ive been guilty
>of this in the past)-- but I made a conscious effort this year
>to try to be more involved in voting and put my suggestions in
>earlier during the preseason- rather than later so maybe it
>would get some traction. Guess not.
>
>Maybe we need some more survivor housecleaning season 1
>style.
>
>Finally, Im gonna jab about getting this started every year.
>If it works, good. If not I dont really care. Thats just me
>having fun and being excited about the league getting
>started.
>
>You wanna talk about Insanity - its you getting mad at the
>same playful jabs every year. Maybe I forgot how annoying it
>was to be commissioner. I'd tell you to pass it on but I dont
>know who else will give a shit all year.

You've definitely forgotten. But I'm not mad. Just explaining my stance for the 1000th time so you're right, we both might be a lil insane. SURVIVOR INSANITY MADNESSSSSS!!!
2377792, we can't vote to start earlier tho?
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Oct-14-14 11:07 AM
just asking. we know what YOU like to do, as far as YOUR *strategy* of drafting later, but shouldn't that be voted on?
2377822, When I announced my suggestion for the draft last month
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 11:45 AM
That's the cue for anyone who doesn't jibe with it to state their case. It's what we did last year.

I re-stated the time in the second post. No one took issue with the time.

Now that the draft order has been set, everyone is screaming CHANGE THE DRAFT DATE.

If it was a problem, why wasn't it prior to the draft order being set?

As Commish, there is a bit of 'judge and jury' decision making I have to do. Sometimes for the the good of the league in spite of the league. When we draft is one of those things. Only reason I've been given to start the draft is because guys don't want to wait. If I'm weighing that response vs everyone having as close to a healthy roster as possible to start the yr, I'm rolling with healthier roster.

Rondo, Beal and now KD are all major players that have gone down. Some secondary guys are hurt now too (Felton, Swaggy P, KCP, Kemba). Letting most of that play out before we commit roster spots is much better than YAY FUN TIME DRAFT EARLY to me.
2377835, hey, man, i was just asking.
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Oct-14-14 12:08 PM
you don't see me screaming for an early start. it's the same stuff every year. my players gon get hurt and i'mma be too disengaged to work the wire and accept my fate, same as ever, so don't mind me.
2377839, lol but at least they'll get hurt during the season
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 12:15 PM
What's more important to me is finishing the draft swiftly.
2377871, P.S. Bradley Beal = Mike Redd/ KevMart status in WS
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 01:14 PM
Scoring Change!


>That's the cue for anyone who doesn't jibe with it to state
>their case. It's what we did last year.
>
>I re-stated the time in the second post. No one took issue
>with the time.
>
>Now that the draft order has been set, everyone is screaming
>CHANGE THE DRAFT DATE.
>
>If it was a problem, why wasn't it prior to the draft order
>being set?
>
>As Commish, there is a bit of 'judge and jury' decision making
>I have to do. Sometimes for the the good of the league in
>spite of the league. When we draft is one of those things.
>Only reason I've been given to start the draft is because guys
>don't want to wait. If I'm weighing that response vs everyone
>having as close to a healthy roster as possible to start the
>yr, I'm rolling with healthier roster.
>
>Rondo, Beal and now KD are all major players that have gone
>down. Some secondary guys are hurt now too (Felton, Swaggy P,
>KCP, Kemba). Letting most of that play out before we commit
>roster spots is much better than YAY FUN TIME DRAFT EARLY to
>me.
2377722, starting to get a lil testy in here.
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 09:21 AM
2377725, Your boss is a Liar
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 09:27 AM
2377754, this is the only fantasy shit where the draft takes a fucking week
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-14-14 10:13 AM
this shit can be done in one fucking day jus like any other league...the first two rounds especially...everybody been in this league long enough to know who to fucking draft early...so fkng lame.
2377779, There are 16 teams and contingency allows only 20 names
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 10:51 AM
most other sites allow you to pre-rank and draft your whole team that way, but you can't on ws.
2377787, I hit them on facebook about that shit
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 11:02 AM
Should be at the very least a seperate box where you can just save players you wnat to draft even if not prerank without the shit automatically picking for you.
2377899, nigga wut? fk a list... sit yur ass down and draft like any other draft
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-14-14 02:27 PM
til its done...yall niggas are babies when it comes to this league...
2377933, its not like any other draft...not sure why you don't get that lol
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 04:26 PM
2377809, Did they do away with preseason stats?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 11:28 AM
Or am i just missing it. If so, good!
2377847, Who am I supposed to be mad at?
Posted by Ceej, Tue Oct-14-14 12:29 PM
I can be bought
2377858, i have no idea whether to take these two seriously or not
Posted by rob, Tue Oct-14-14 12:51 PM
every year we pick random things to make us super mad.

though i would say if you're that worried about a freak injury that you can't pick right now, you're not going to have fun with the heartbreak of a long season and the inevitable injuries that are coming.
2377863, AB is suffering from PTRSD
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 12:59 PM
Post Traumatic Rose Stress Disorder
2377886, lol...nah, this goes back to Jermaine O'neal in season 1
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 01:48 PM
2377894, Jermaine Oneal in season 1-10
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 02:14 PM
2377866, Who wants the 15th and or 17th?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 01:03 PM
for the right offer id be open to moving either pick. Obviously id have to have a bunch of picks in rounds 3,4,5, 6

But any of you guys with a top 5 pick who may be interested in pairing him with a top 17 guy instead of a top 32 guy...make me an offer
2377867, lol i was waiting for this post.
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 01:06 PM
2377868, once in a lifetime opportunity my friend
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 01:10 PM
2377876, HURRY UP AND BUY!
Posted by ErnestLee, Tue Oct-14-14 01:25 PM
2377880, Deal will still be here Thursday if no buyers - take your time
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 01:33 PM
2377887, ^^^Racists hahahaha
Posted by auragin_boi, Tue Oct-14-14 01:49 PM
2377877, no thank you.
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-14-14 01:26 PM
2377881, Lebron + ...
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Oct-14-14 01:33 PM
oh wait youre not drafting Lebron?...
2377924, lol why do people get mad about the draft every year?
Posted by JBoogs, Tue Oct-14-14 03:50 PM
it's fuckin fine. it doesn't actually take a week.

and who cares when it starts? folks are just gonna be sad when it's done anyway.

relax y'all.

***************
I've traveled far and wide through many different times...
2377927, Pretty much
Posted by ErnestLee, Tue Oct-14-14 03:55 PM
>it's fuckin fine. it doesn't actually take a week.
>
>and who cares when it starts? folks are just gonna be sad
>when it's done anyway.
>
>relax y'all.
>

2377963, i love this league. same shit every year
Posted by thejerseytornado, Tue Oct-14-14 06:10 PM
and it's funny EVERY TIME

-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2378108, yup
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-15-14 09:57 AM
>and it's funny EVERY TIME

2378107, Let's go Cenario stop stalling!
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 09:57 AM
Post your pick here if ab won't free the draft!
2378109, yo, you on vacation this week or something?
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-15-14 09:59 AM
did you update lvh yet? lol
2378124, So...what are YOU gonna do to make Survivor better this season?
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-15-14 10:51 AM
-More/better trash talk?
-Inflate your gif game?
-Create a season long rivalry?
-Try to get that 2nd or 3rd title to make 'em all MAD?
-Go much harder on the strategy as $500 is up for grabs?
-Provoke LABeat and Basa?
-Tell Theo he's gonna flop in them 'offs as usual?
-Call Shawn and Boogs irrelevant?
-Tell Mat his game isn't as good as it was overseas?
-Claim you didn't know Ceej, Ryan and Magilla were still playing?
-Create an awesome selfie for the Administration to use in the rankings videos?
-Make a super-dope team logo?
-Pick 3-5 current league records and try to break them?

What say you in season X?
2378133, It's an uphill battle cause so many of this league don't post anymore
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 11:13 AM
Some are around just for this league.

In some ways that's why facebook works. It's worked in some of my other leagues. A use you get notification- but understandably not everyone here is on facebook.

Posters we've lost

Boogs
Theo
Matty
Magilla (ish)
Basa kinda
Ceej even posts less

That's some og heavy hitters
2378139, welp if yall move to facebook..i'm out
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-15-14 11:15 AM
2378146, I don't think we ever move to facebook fully
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 11:21 AM
This is an okp league.

I can't remember if any of the blowhards aren't in facebook but it's fine if you're not in the group. Just the people who are can also talk some shit there.
2378166, Would Twitter work better? LABeat you on Twitter?
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-15-14 11:48 AM
2378168, yeah im on twitter
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-15-14 11:52 AM
@djgourmetdachef
2378212, twitter sucks for stuff like this
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 01:09 PM
wed have to tag each other or use hashtags and find the posts
2378150, i think losing causes some folks to be quiet
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-15-14 11:29 AM
we're at the point where half of the league has a ring. It was cool to pop off when only a fraction of the league has won but now alot of ya'll got rings, so if you ain't got one...its kinda like you just wanna fall back and let the chips fall.

At least that's how i feel sometimes, but looking at the list shawn posted kinda backs up that up...or maybe its just coincidence.
2378173, We've been at it for so long though, you'd think we
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-15-14 11:58 AM
would be MORE involved due to the familiarity and long seeded back and forths.

Real life gets in the way, I get that, but what made the first 5-6 seasons so much fun is the activity.

I don't want guys to play due to obligation or to take it for granted because that dimishes the quality.

OKP isn't a posting home for some, cool. But post here for this. This league is much more interesting when there's chaos. People use to start things up for no reason, was truly a battle royal.

No one has to be on here everyday but popping in a few times a week to take a steaming dump on someone or brag about a dominating win streak or reply to someone's trash talk makes all the difference.

If we need new blood, I'm with that. I have no problem cutting the two worst players and 2 least active participants in the posts. 4 new bloods would probably spice things up. A relegation league might do so also.

I dunno but it feels like we should be trying to make season 10 feel like the first few years.
2378176, sheeeit, i always said the 4 teams that miss the playoffs should pay more
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-15-14 12:09 PM
to get back in lol.

>If we need new blood, I'm with that. I have no problem cutting the two worst players and 2 least active participants in the posts

It would never get voted in so i stopped crying about it no shawn-o.
2378194, id be open to that
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 12:49 PM
I dont think worst teams get relegated

I think least active can if they dont meet a certain benchmark.

The thing is I think interest in joining this league is low (surprisingly) because it seems complicated.

Also tehres usually a learning curve for newbies
2378207, i think also that while the mainstream hasn't *quite* reached peak fantasy
Posted by rob, Wed Oct-15-14 01:02 PM
the type of people who become backpack rap internet message board posters probably hit saturation with fantasy sports a decade ago. shit like fan duel is on the upswing because it's more like facebook games and traditional betting, which gives folks their popcorn fix.
2378210, yea at the end of the day this is just a 50 buck league
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 01:08 PM
2378217, yeah i be on the daily fantasy tip now...so not much interest here
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-15-14 01:12 PM
except talking shit to ab...
2378266, What's funny though is that Fanduel is JUST like Sports.ws
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-15-14 03:18 PM
>The thing is I think interest in joining this league is low
>(surprisingly) because it seems complicated.
>
>Also tehres usually a learning curve for newbies

So if you play there, Survivor wouldn't be some super foreign thing.

A few math tweaks and it's basically the same.
2378189, I don't think that's it
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 12:39 PM
Just those guys I posted. They were never super brash or outspoken but theo and boogs have had their rivalries. Matty too. They really only post on okp now in survivor and only when it's necessary.


Beathustla isn't as mad these days.


People just kinda moved on in life, for some people survivor is the only thing that even keeps them tied To okp
2378263, I'm gonna make a trade
Posted by magilla vanilla, Wed Oct-15-14 03:11 PM
that benefits both teams, but involves me losing a "name."
2378265, hows that gonna happen you dont even have a name yet
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 03:17 PM
2378272, Nobody does yet . . . COMMISH
Posted by magilla vanilla, Wed Oct-15-14 03:26 PM
2378264, watch two key players get hurt for a combined 40 games and do nothing
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Oct-15-14 03:13 PM
the usual
2378269, C'mon B...you gotta try and win once so you can retire lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Oct-15-14 03:22 PM
The post title speech would be worth it at least.
2378491, nope...not interested in working the wire
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Oct-16-14 12:53 PM
2378276, OKS Devilbook Page to join (optional)
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 03:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/745634912158534/


2378281, WE HAVE A TRADE TO ANNOUNCE!!!! (c) Adam Silver
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-15-14 03:42 PM
Coney Island sends

Pick numbers 1, 57, 109, 179

to

Duval County for

Pick Numbers 7, 26, 101, 130
2378286, was wondering if it was you or Ern
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 03:49 PM
Frank dont think we can make 15 and 16 work without 26
2378303, I considered choosing your deal-- ran it through the simulator.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-15-14 04:16 PM
I like this deal more.

If I'd taken your deal and waited til the 90-something to take my fourth player, that'd REALLY be me saying I think I'm smarter than all of you, lol.
2378289, Frank's basically telling all of us he thinks hes smarter than us
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 03:54 PM
and he can make up in the back end what hes giving up in the 2nd round
2378298, On the contrary...
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-15-14 04:13 PM
... the reason why I value picking before other people for my anchor is because I'm afraid the people in this league are smart enough that they'd take all of my desired anchors before it fell to pick #7.
2378308, yo, there's 6 guys that i would want at 7th.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-15-14 04:24 PM
the 5 i texted you will obviously by gone by then.

I hope I get who I really want but will be okay if i have to settle.

I'm really banking on one of the dudes i have in the bottom of the first falling to me at 26.
2378297, History of Champs and 1st rd pick
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 04:08 PM
9: Robe#16 Westbrook/Drummond
8:Longo #2 (i believe the order is jacked on the site) Cp3
7:Ernie #13 Al Jefferson
6:AB #1 Cp3
5:Ernie #1 LBJ
4:TJT #12 Dwyane Wade
3:Theo #8 Steve Nash
2:AB (unknown) Unknown
1: Shawn #3 KG
2378329, THIS IS NOT A DYNASTY LEAGUE FRANK!!!
Posted by ErnestLee, Wed Oct-15-14 05:30 PM
2378375, *adds Carlos Alexandre Rodrigues do Nascimento to watch list*
Posted by ErnestLee, Wed Oct-15-14 08:33 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400583971

So thats what happened to Derrick Caracter.
2378397, another big trade coming down the pipeline
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Oct-15-14 11:51 PM
2378408, Shawndme Broussard
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 05:47 AM
.
2378409, We also lost a lot of chatter and talk with celerys departure
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 07:20 AM
I forgot how much that guy talked
2378428, FYI i'm not opposed to starting the draft early anymore
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 09:18 AM
lolz
2378436, i thought it started today?
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Oct-16-14 09:37 AM
2378437, tomorrow
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 09:40 AM
2378430, if the draft runs smooth on mobile we might be able to get this done
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 09:19 AM
before sunday kickoffs...What country is matinho in these days btw?
2378442, i bet he lives around the way from u
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 09:54 AM
2378447, nice
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 10:15 AM
2378449, So Frank, you picking today?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 10:28 AM
2378455, I'll pick tonight.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-16-14 10:57 AM
2378460, ^^^^fight the power
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 11:20 AM
2378464, Only because I'm out late tonight and sleeping in tomorrow, lol.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-16-14 11:43 AM
Knowing my luck I'd hit the snooze and wake up with ten picks gone.
2378466, you should just pick right now...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 11:57 AM
2378470, he can't
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 12:08 PM
2378471, why not? texting me to see who im picking and shit so his trade
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 12:12 PM
can seem safe....if anyone think i told him the truth...

i fell sorry fa ya mudduh (c)
2378474, can't draft til the commish starts the draft
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 12:32 PM
who did you tell him you were picking tho?
2378480, ya muddah
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 12:40 PM
2378552, Longo is gonna post on OKP
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 03:23 PM
FUCK THE COMMISH
2378475, Ha! I just wanted to see who was right: me or Shawn.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-16-14 12:34 PM
I have faith in you to do the right thing.
2378478, like i said... if you think i told u the truth...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 12:40 PM
2378484, For my sake and yours, I hope you didn't, lol.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-16-14 12:45 PM
2378488, Kelly babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 12:49 PM
2378481, I see we got some new GOBs in here... time for me to
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 12:42 PM
CRANK DAT
2378497, Frank and I Mock Drafted the whole first rd
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 01:06 PM
we know all of your styles.


How can we post this without giving away picks.


How can we create a game out of predicting somebody's picks?
2378503, GOB shit
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 01:09 PM
2378505, text it to me
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 01:10 PM

>How can we post this without giving away picks.

2378507, CEEJ you see this GOB bullshit???
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 01:12 PM
niggas jus blatant with it now
2378509, I dont even recognize them as people anymore
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 01:15 PM
I'm immune this GOG behaviour
2378510, i can dig it.... such lames
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 01:16 PM
2378511, Bet they get 2 right maybe and not even their own
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 01:18 PM
2378513, lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 01:28 PM
2378606, lol
Posted by JBoogs, Thu Oct-16-14 06:00 PM

***************
I've traveled far and wide through many different times...
2378506, Time Capsule
Posted by ErnestLee, Thu Oct-16-14 01:11 PM
2378521, Does something like this really exist?
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 02:06 PM
An internet time capsule?


Would actually be pretty cool.
2378508, did ya'll even agree on the 1st pick? lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 01:14 PM
2378530, *hiding*
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-16-14 02:31 PM
http://tinyurl.com/mbm7zxa

Oh and thanks RYAN for being one of the men in here to PAY rather than yap their mouths about drafting.

'Preciatechafam!
2378532, Wait has the payment deadline past?
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 02:34 PM
2378535, no thats why his post is irrelevant
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 02:40 PM
deadline isnt even til next week. Fuck im gonna pay now for?
2378539, Has the draft started?
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-16-14 02:45 PM
2378545, So u cant answer a simple question?
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 02:57 PM
2378553, Did you read the OP? Has your answer there.
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-16-14 03:24 PM
2378558, So why are u talkin tough about Ryan paying?
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 03:33 PM
2378559, Thanking him for his payment while those who haven't paid
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-16-14 03:37 PM
yap about a draft date that hasn't come yet is tough talk?

So I suppose all this 'let's draft now' fluff is tough talk too huh because the OP clearly says 10/17, Noon EST. I mean, you can pay BEFORE the deadline. Can't draft UNTIL the deadline.

Be consistent Ceej. Not.Like.This.Fam.

lol
2378561, complaining about the draft is idiotic, please point to where I did so tho
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 03:44 PM
2378591, Only if you can point to my tough talk about Ryan paying
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-16-14 04:54 PM
;)
2378621, Cool wink
Posted by Ceej, Thu Oct-16-14 08:36 PM
2378548, I think we need to start drafting so that we can insult one another constructively
Posted by Cenario, Thu Oct-16-14 03:06 PM
constructively
2378551, ^^Smithers Revolt Part I
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 03:22 PM
*its happening*
2378555, I agree lol
Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Oct-16-14 03:25 PM
2378577, can i still trade my 1st pick once the draft starts?
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 04:33 PM
got an anonymous trade partner who wants to trade at the very last minute..
2378582, Mid-draft trades happen all the time.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-16-14 04:36 PM
As long as your personal pick clock hasn't expired, you're good.
2378596, Fuckin Cenario and his "let me see what happens on draft day"
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 05:05 PM
fuckin pussy.

Its all about blind trading.
2378622, FUCK I DID NOT ACCEPT SHAWNS TRADE
Posted by thejerseytornado, Thu Oct-16-14 08:45 PM
FUCKING PHONE. UNDO PLEASE
-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2378623, i shouldve accepted the trade and made Ab reset the draft
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Oct-16-14 08:59 PM
2378625, lol. he'd have just told me to deal
Posted by thejerseytornado, Thu Oct-16-14 09:06 PM
and i'd have to admit, he'd have a point.
-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2378624, thanks shawn. i'm a dumbass
Posted by thejerseytornado, Thu Oct-16-14 09:05 PM

-----------
Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
2378637, Frank said he'd pick tonite..well
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Oct-16-14 09:51 PM
ITS TONITE gatdammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hahaha
2378651, according to the mock i did with celery we will be at pick 19 on monday.
Posted by rob, Thu Oct-16-14 11:25 PM
...
2378653, Celery! Im gonna hit him up to rank our draft
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-17-14 12:09 AM
2378657, My movie started 75 minutes late.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Oct-17-14 12:55 AM
Luckily, the manager gave us all free tickets and concessions, and I even sweet-talked a free Boxtrolls shirt while we waited. Score.
2378667, #luckily
Posted by Ceej, Fri Oct-17-14 07:40 AM
2378658, Is someone making the Draft Post?
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Oct-17-14 12:55 AM
2378664, I hope you at least threw a name in contingency
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 05:53 AM
2378666, Smithers why didn't we just start at 9-10am est if we have 8 hrs
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-17-14 07:26 AM
2378668, idk...yo, i would have taken the jets if i looked at the other lines last night
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 07:42 AM
smh...i don't see more than 3 picks i like and thats including the jets.
2378669, all of a sudden this guy is hammerin hank
Posted by Ceej, Fri Oct-17-14 07:46 AM
2378671, lmao. I woulda put 1 gazillion dollars on KC to make the WS
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-17-14 08:09 AM
2378672, cmon
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 08:11 AM
2378694, 8 hrs to make one pick is THEE fucking lamest shit EVER
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Oct-17-14 09:08 AM
2378697, crying about it every other post is slightly more lame imo
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 09:11 AM
we did this last year and the draft finished over the weekend.

The 8 hour window is basically for overnight.

If someone is taking more than an hour to pick they are gonna get a barrage of text messages anyway lol
2378701, shutcho lame dickridin ass up...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Oct-17-14 09:20 AM
i swear you act like my lil sister and shit.. fuck outta here
2378704, lolyou complaining bout the same thing constantly is some lilsister shit
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 09:23 AM
move on like an adult already...jeez.
2378707, post of the post so far, lmao
Posted by Ceej, Fri Oct-17-14 09:34 AM
>i swear you act like my lil sister and shit.. fuck outta
>here
2378709, nah post 25 better...mr. 38 percenter
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 09:39 AM
2378729, Yea its not, and I'm not very good......way to break news.
Posted by Ceej, Fri Oct-17-14 09:51 AM
2378703, LAB and I are on diff sides of the same coin
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-17-14 09:21 AM
I want the draft to start sooner and last longer
2378705, lol we used to do no time limit the first weekend
Posted by Cenario, Fri Oct-17-14 09:24 AM
2378706, dude the fisrt round should take like 15 min to complete...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Oct-17-14 09:25 AM
20 at the most...erybody knows one or two players they want first...maybe the other rounds should be a little longer..but this shit is boooring
2378710, First rd usually goes fast though
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Oct-17-14 09:44 AM
as long as people are on. It only stops when someone is not available to be contacted.
2379067, Crisis Averted
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Oct-18-14 06:27 AM
Robe sorry for the early/late texts.

Blame frank for texting me at 240 am telling me to text you when it was actually Mattys pick.