They just named Boeheim #12. Who do y'all think is #1? Plenty are saying it'll be K or Cal, but I'm going curveball and saying they give it to Donovan. It is, after all, a series designed to generate clicks and conversation-- I doubt they go with a "safe" pick.

Here they are to date:

No. 50: Tie -- Randy Bennett, Saint Mary's; Scott Drew, Baylor
No. 49: Richard Pitino, Minnesota
No. 48: Stew Morrill, Utah State
No. 47: Bob Hoffman, Mercer
No. 46: John Thompson III, Georgetown
No. 45: Mike Brey, Notre Dame
No. 44: Rick Barnes, Texas
No. 43: Chris Mack, Xavier
No. 42: Josh Pastner, Memphis
No. 41: Ed Cooley, Providence
No. 40: Bruce Weber, Kansas State
No. 39: Tubby Smith, Texas Tech
No. 38: Buzz Williams, Virginia Tech
No. 37: Rick Byrd, Belmont
No. 36: Steve Alford, UCLA
No. 35: Phil Martelli, Saint Joseph's
No. 34: Tad Boyle, Colorado
No. 33: Fran McCaffery, Iowa
No. 32: Tim Miles, Nebraska
No. 31: Lon Kruger, Oklahoma
No. 30: Bob Huggins, West Virginia
No. 29: Jim Crews, Saint Louis
No. 28: Jim Larranaga, Miami
No. 27: Mick Cronin, Cincinnati
No. 26: Archie Miller, Dayton
No. 25: Jamie Dixon, Pittsburgh
No. 24: Bob McKillop, Davidson
No. 23: Greg McDermott, Creighton
No. 22: Tommy Amaker, Harvard
No. 21: Larry Brown, SMU
No. 20: Thad Matta, Ohio State
No. 19: Jay Wright, Villanova
No. 18: Steve Fisher, San Diego State
No. 17: Mark Few, Gonzaga
No. 16: Roy Williams, North Carolina
No. 15: Fred Hoiberg, Iowa State
No. 14: Tony Bennett, Virginia
No. 13: Shaka Smart, VCU
No. 12: Jim Boeheim, Syracuse
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JB needs to be in the top 5

>JB needs to be in the top 5

>JB needs to be in the top 5

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Certainly you don't mean Jim Boeheim.

I don't know why I didn't even think of Beilein. I even thought to myself, "oh, he's weighing in on Fisher and Amaker, typical Michigan opinions"... yet when you said JB, I had no clue who you meant, lol.

He'll be top ten, which is still pretty goddamn good considering where he'd be on the list if it was made three years ago. He MIGHT even sneak top five. Like I said, these lists love putting "shocking" results out, and something like Beilein over Self would have people going apeshit.

I wouldn't be surprised if they left K out of the top five, frankly.

ie while all the top 100 talent involved was in orange

>ie while all the top 100 talent involved was in orange
>

I fail to see how that's a negative.

"Boeheim had better players and repeatedly kicked his ass, but he's not better"?

Boeheim built his program. Boeheim recruited those players. That's all a part of the job.

Now he's getting the kind of talent Boeheim has always gotten and doing more with it in a tougher conference, both in terms of wins and developing players

Also...when Boeheim took over they were a lot closer to their previous Final 4 than they were to their next one so "built that program" seems a little hyperbolic

>Now he's getting the kind of talent Boeheim has always gotten
>and doing more with it in a tougher conference, both in terms
>of wins and developing players

C'mon. He won more games than Boeheim one time(31 wins to 30 in 2013). Last year they both won 28. Go back any further than 2013 and it's a landslide for Boeheim.

Developing players? Like developing a rookie of the year Point Guard?

>Also...when Boeheim took over they were a lot closer to their
>previous Final 4 than they were to their next one so "built
>that program" seems a little hyperbolic

They were a regional program(with a surprise final 4 run under their belt). They weren't getting rosterfuls of top 100 players pre-Boeheim.

On the all rookie team...

I would be impressed

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Ahead of jt3.

Otherwise...no.

Lol @ fred fucking hoiberg

I was in college when JTIII made the Final Four, which was also coincidentally the last time he made the Sweet 16.

If you are considered a coach that is tiptoeing toward the hot seat (which, if he busts in the first round of the tourney AGAIN this season, best believe that's not tiptoeing, that's a full-blown gallop), then odds of you being top 40 in a 300+ coach league aren't great.

Dude's been to the Sweet 16 twice in a decade. Twice ever. At Georgetown.

EDIT: not even to say he's not too low-- I woulda put Barnes beneath him. All the same, I wouldn't have expected him that much higher.

Wtf has Tim miles done, tho?

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

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Took Colorado State from the embarrassment of the Mountain West to the tourney by Year 5, and took a 4-conference-win Nebraska team to an 11-conference-win tourney team in two years. He's hot for a reason. That reason: he is very good.

There's also a degree of difficulty level to this list. Making the tourney with Nebraska in year two is a hell of a lot harder than another Georgetown tourney appearance. But you know that.

I also don't think my above reply qualified as "a whole lotta typing," but maybe that's just me.

also, ed cooley (BUT THEY MADE THE TOURNEY ONCE!).

prove it on the big stage at least once before you get to be hot shit as a coach. that's kinda a big qualifier for me.

>There's also a degree of difficulty level to this list. Making
>the tourney with Nebraska in year two is a hell of a lot
>harder than another Georgetown tourney appearance. But you
>know that.

not when JT3 came to georgetown and did even better by year 2. but then, after being hot shit, he's now "fallen off" so people can just pump up the next group of hot shit coaches because of a single elimination tournament even though he got to the sweet sixteen in year 2 and a final four in year 3. Also, the hoyas facilities S.U.C.K. while Nebraska got new, pimped out facilities in 2011. Which is a big part of my point--JT3 5 years ago would have been the equivalent of Tim Miles and now he's not. Why is Time Miles definitely better when, in their relatively equal first big conference positions, JT3 did better (much better). It's because bad analysis criticizes the devil they know instead of the devil they don't.

but yeah, recency. that's not a top 50 coaches list, that's a top 50 hottest coaches list. at which point, i'd be fine with jt3 not even making the top 50 (though his recruiting recently has been hot as hell).

>I also don't think my above reply qualified as "a whole lotta
>typing," but maybe that's just me.

compared to one line, it was. now i'e typed a lot, but it's friday afternoon and i don't want to work.

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

And has since, more or less faded into Bolivian.

Hmmmm.....

But if I was fielding a team today and needed to win one tournament game, I'd pick Miles over JTIII.

Again, not saying he deserves to be behind everyone he's behind. I just have no problem with him being toward the back of the pack.

but i'm not sweating him being 45. he aight.

he should be top 30, but 45 isn't that far off.

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

I guess they reeeeeeally love that Big 12 COY award and project him to continue to improve over the next couple of years?

Dude last hit the Sweet 16 the year JTIII did. And JTIII made the Final Four that year. So if recent success is weighed heavily... yeah, there are a number of guys who should be ahead of him.

the only thing he's good at is getting top tier pay for mid tier work.

I'd personally put him higher, but when you miss the dance four of your last seven seasons, they're gonna bump you down.

Its not every day someone takes over a 2x returning finalist with 3 NBA 1st rounders in the frontcourt and 2 seniors in the backcourt

Heshimu Evans, Nazr Mohammed, and Wayne Turner.

That's a juggernaut team.

Anybody could've won with that squad.