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2336008, 2014 World Cup: Matchday 1 (6/12 to 6/16) Posted by Sleepy, Sat Jun-14-14 04:03 PM
The matches start on Thursday at 4:00 PM EDT. The official schedule is found http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/groups/index.html Or, for a more mobile friendly site, try www.tapinguide.com
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2336017, US TV Schedule Posted by Sleepy, Tue Jun-10-14 09:41 AM
THURSDAY, JUNE 12
4 pm ET | Brazil vs. Croatia | Sao Paulo | TV: ESPN (USA)
FRIDAY, JUNE 13
12 pm ET | Mexico vs. Cameroon | Natal | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
3 pm ET | Spain vs. Netherlands | Salvador | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Chile vs. Australia | Cuiaba | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
SATURDAY, JUNE 14
12 pm ET | Colombia vs. Greece | Belo Horizonte | TV: ABC (USA)
3 pm ET | Uruguay vs. Costa Rica | Fortaleza | TV: ABC (USA)
6 pm ET | England vs. Italy | Manaus | TV: ESPN (USA)
9 pm ET | Ivory Coast vs. Japan | Recife | TV: ESPN (USA)
SUNDAY, JUNE 15
12 pm ET | Switzerland vs. Ecuador | Brasília | TV: ABC (USA)
3 pm ET | France vs. Honduras | Porto Alegre | TV: ABC (USA)
6 pm ET | Argentina vs. Bosnia-Herzegovina | Rio de Janeiro | TV: ESPN (USA)
MONDAY, JUNE 16
12 pm ET | Germany vs. Portugal | Salvador | TV: ESPN (USA)
3 pm ET | Iran vs. Nigeria | Curitiba | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Ghana vs. USA | Natal | TV: ESPN (USA)
TUESDAY, JUNE 17
12 pm ET | Belgium vs. Algeria | Belo Horizonte | TV: ESPN (USA)
3 pm ET | Brazil vs. Mexico | Fortaleza | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Russia vs. South Korea | Cuiaba | TV: ESPN (USA)
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18
12 pm ET | Netherlands vs. Australia | Porto Alegre | TV: ESPN (USA)
3 pm ET | Spain vs. Chile | Rio de Janeiro | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Cameroon vs. Croatia | Manaus | TV: ESPN (USA)
THURSDAY, JUNE 19
12 pm ET | Colombia vs. Ivory Coast | Brasilia | TV: ESPN (USA)
3 pm ET | Uruguay vs. England | Sao Paulo | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Greece vs. Japan | Natal | TV: ESPN (USA)
FRIDAY, JUNE 20
12 pm ET | Costa Rica vs. Italy | Recife | TV: ESPN (USA)
3 pm ET | Switzerland vs. France | Salvador | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Ecuador vs. Honduras | Curitiba | TV: ESPN (USA)
SATURDAY, JUNE 21
12 pm ET | Argentina vs. Iran | Belo Horizonte | TV: ESPN (USA)
3 pm ET | Germany vs. Ghana | Fortaleza | TV: ESPN (USA)
6 pm ET | Bosnia-Herzegovina vs. Nigeria | Cuiaba | TV: ESPN (USA)
SUNDAY, JUNE 22
12 pm ET | Belgium vs. Russia | Rio de Janeiro | TV: ABC (USA)
3 pm ET | Algeria vs. South Korea | Porto Alegre | TV: ABC (USA)
6 pm ET | Portugal vs. USA | Manaus | TV: ESPN (USA)
MONDAY, JUNE 23
12 pm ET | Netherlands vs. Chile | Sao Paulo | TV: ESPN (USA)
12 pm ET | Australia vs. Spain | Curitiba | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
4 pm ET | Croatia vs. Mexico | Recife | TV: ESPN (USA)
4 pm ET | Cameroon vs. Brazil | Brasilia | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
TUESDAY, JUNE 24
12 pm ET | Italy vs. Uruguay | Natal | TV: ESPN (USA)
12 pm ET | Costa Rica vs. England | Belo Horizonte | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
4 pm ET | Japan vs. Colombia | Cuiaba | TV: ESPN (USA)
4 pm ET | Greece vs. Ivory Coast | Fortaleza | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 25
12 pm ET | Nigeria vs. Argentina | Porto Alegre | TV: ESPN (USA)
12 pm ET | Bosnia-Herzegovina vs. Iran | Salvador | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
4 pm ET | Ecuador vs. France | Rio de Janeiro | TV: ESPN (USA)
4 pm ET | Honduras vs. Switzerland | Manaus | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
THURSDAY, JUNE 26
12 pm ET | USA vs. Germany | Recife | TV: ESPN (USA)
12 pm ET | Portugal vs. Ghana | Brasilia | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
4 pm ET | South Korea vs. Belgium | Sao Paulo | TV: ESPN (USA)
4 pm ET | Algeria vs. Russia | Curitiba | TV: ESPN2 (USA)
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2336028, Group A (Brazil, Croatia, Mexico, Cameroon) Posted by Sleepy, Tue Jun-10-14 10:15 AM
Date/Time (ET) Home Away Venue June 12 | 4 PM Brazil Croatia Arena Corinthians, São Paulo June 13 | 12 PM Mexico Cameroon Arena das Dunas, Natal June 17 | 3 PM Brazil Mexico Estádio Castelão, Fortaleza June 18 | 6 PM Cameroon Croatia Arena Amazônia, Manaus June 23 | 4 PM Cameroon Brazil Estádio Mané Garrincha, Brasília June 23 | 4 PM Croatia Mexico Arena Pernambuco, Recife
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2337079, fuckin hell marcelo. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 03:12 PM
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2337081, good cross by Olic tho Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 03:15 PM
still, should've been kicked away by Luiz easily
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2337101, yeah he just watched it go by him Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:00 PM
Marcelo looked surprised the ball even made it thru to him
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2336029, RE: The World Cup Post (group stages) Posted by Sleepy, Tue Jun-10-14 10:18 AM
Date/Time (ET) Home Away Venue June 13 | 3 PM Spain Netherlands Arena Fonte Nova, Salvador June 13 | 6 PM Chile Australia Arena Pantanal, Cuiabá June 18 | 3 PM Spain Chile Estádio do Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro June 18 | 12 PM Netherlands Australia Estádio Beira-Rio, Porto Alegre June 23 | 12 PM Australia Spain Arena da Baixada, Curitiba June 23 | 12 PM Netherlands Chile Arena Corinthians, São Paulo
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2336580, ^ Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jun-11-14 10:04 AM
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2336644, Group C (Columbia, Greece, CIV, Japan) Posted by Sleepy, Wed Jun-11-14 12:57 PM
Date/Time (ET) Home Away Venue June 14 | 12 PM Colombia Greece Estádio Mineirão, Belo Horizonte June 14 | 9 PM Ivory Coast Japan Arena Pernambuco, Recife June 19 | 12 PM Colombia Ivory Coast Estádio Mané Garrincha, Brasília June 19 | 6 PM Greece Japan Arena das Dunas, Natal June 24 | 4 PM Japan Colombia Arena Pantanal, Cuiabá June 24 | 4 PM Greece Ivory Coast Estádio Castelão, Fortaleza
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2336791, Japan showed up in a Pokemon jet Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 01:36 AM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/japan-pokemon-plane-world-cup
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2336792, LOL, so sick Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 03:33 AM
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2336802, Of course, this didn't really happen... Posted by Sleepy, Thu Jun-12-14 07:57 AM
But the internet is a better place if we believe it did.
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2336645, Group D (Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy) Posted by Sleepy, Wed Jun-11-14 12:58 PM
Date/Time (ET) Home Away Venue June 14 | 3 PM Uruguay Costa Rica Estádio Castelão, Fortaleza June 14 | 6 PM England Italy Arena Amazônia, Manaus June 19 | 3 PM Uruguay England Arena Corinthians, São Paulo June 20 | 12 PM Costa Rica Italy Arena Pernambuco, Recife June 24 | 12 PM Italy Uruguay Arena das Dunas, Natal June 24 | 12 PM Costa Rica England Estádio Mineirão, Belo Horizonte
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2336646, Group E (Switzerland, France, Ecuador, Honduras) Posted by Sleepy, Wed Jun-11-14 12:59 PM
June 15 | 12 PM Switzerland Ecuador Estádio Mané Garrincha, Brasília June 15 | 3 PM France Honduras Estádio Beira-Rio, Porto Alegre June 20 | 3 PM Switzerland France Arena Fonte Nova, Salvador June 20 | 6 PM Ecuador Honduras Arena da Baixada, Curitiba June 25 | 4 PM Honduras Switzerland Arena Amazônia, Manaus June 25 | 4 PM Ecuador France Estádio do Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro
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2336648, Group F (Argentina, Iran, Nigeria, B-H) Posted by Sleepy, Wed Jun-11-14 01:00 PM
June 15 | 6 PM Argentina Bosnia-Herzegovina Estádio do Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro June 16 | 3 PM Iran Nigeria Arena da Baixada, Curitiba June 21 | 12 PM Argentina Iran Estádio Mineirão, Belo Horizonte June 21 | 6 PM Bosnia-Herzegovina Nigeria Arena Pantanal, Cuiabá June 25 | 12 PM Nigeria Argentina Estádio Beira-Rio, Porto Alegre June 25 | 12 PM Bosnia-Herzegovina Iran Arena Fonte Nova, Salvador
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2336650, Group G (Germany, Portugal, Ghana, USA) Posted by Sleepy, Wed Jun-11-14 01:00 PM
Date/Time (ET) Home Away Venue June 16 | 12 PM Germany Portugal Arena Fonte Nova, Salvador June 16 | 6 PM Ghana USA Arena das Dunas, Natal June 21 | 3 PM Germany Ghana Estádio Castelão, Fortaleza June 22 | 6 PM Portugal USA Arena Amazônia, Manaus June 26 | 12 PM USA Germany Arena Pernambuco, Recife June 26 | 12 PM Portugal Ghana Estádio Mané Garrincha, Brasília
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2336864, Sigh. Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-12-14 09:41 AM
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2337091, Nah, Klinsy's got a plan. Beat Ghana, Beat Portugal... Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 03:39 PM
...draw with Germany, win the group. Simple.
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2337130, I actually think thats a workable plan Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:36 PM
Portugal should not scare anyone
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2336652, Group H (Belgium, Russia, South Korea, Algeria) Posted by Sleepy, Wed Jun-11-14 01:02 PM
Date/Time (ET) Home Away Venue June 17 | 12 PM Belgium Algeria Estádio Mineirão, Belo Horizonte June 17 | 6 PM Russia South Korea Arena Pantanal, Cuiabá June 22 | 12 PM Belgium Russia Estádio do Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro June 22 | 3 PM Algeria South Korea Estádio Beira-Rio, Porto Alegre June 26 | 4 PM South Korea Belgium Arena Corinthians, São Paulo June 26 | 4 PM Algeria Russia Arena da Baixada, Curitiba
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2336702, So excited for this! Posted by walihorse, Wed Jun-11-14 02:45 PM
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2336737, is there anything worse than NPR dipping its toes into WC reporting? Posted by celery77, Wed Jun-11-14 06:47 PM
sub-question: is there anything more obnoxious that the ever-present cliche during these times, "no one understands the offsides rule"?
I'm willing to concede a shockingly high % of futbol fans don't understand the need for two people to be between ball and goal* (b/c it really only applies when a player is 1v1 with the goalie or on really odd goalmouth scrambles), but the "can't be heind the last man" thing is NOT HARD, AMERICA!
*aside -- I took a soccer PE class in high school once and this was emphasized and a paper test was given where I got it all wrong, thinking I understood offsides, but rest assured in all the manic obsessive soccer watching since then, I've sorted it all out, can spot it live easy. Shoot, I just passed Zach Loyd on the sidewalk today and recognized him, and he's an infrequent starter for the visiting team, something has definitely gone wrong.
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2336801, I realized I didn't understand the rule when the goalie isn't the last man Posted by Sleepy, Thu Jun-12-14 07:55 AM
Every so often there is a play where the goalkeeper is out of position, and the play is still called offside due to lack of a player between the opposition and the goal. I had to have it explained to me more than a couple of times.
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2336804, John Cleese break it down pls Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 08:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmC9JOcaofI
hilarious
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2336821, The quadrannual "Soccer would be better without offsides" posts Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jun-12-14 08:35 AM
They're coming
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2336837, DO THE RIGHT THING, OKP ((c) SoWhat in GD) Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 09:01 AM
just ignore
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2336884, that and "larger goals" Posted by sfMatt, Thu Jun-12-14 10:20 AM
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2337479, i think it's more that offsides seems illogical to most Posted by jrocc, Thu Jun-12-14 11:28 PM
i remember when i was trying to get into soccer and a friend told me to play FIFA on Playstation. so i was like, "aight cool, that helped with Madden" so i tried it. every time they blew the whistle and called me offside, i was so thoroughly confused. i was like, "why can't i pass it to him when he's wide open?". we're so used to trying to find the open man in sports like football and basketball that it takes some time to wrap your head around the idea of the soccer offsides rule.
at the time you could explain the rule to me and i'd get what it was, but i just couldn't get WHY it was against the rules. it took a long time.
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2336806, any way we can rename this post to "WC matchday 1" or something? Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 08:07 AM
as discussed in the buildup post doing separate threads for each group stage matchday works pretty well. Matchday 1 goes from 06/12 to 06/17
matchday 2 - 06/17-06/22 matchday 3 - 06/23-06/26
HAPPY WORLD CUP OPENING DAY Y'ALL
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2336813, HALLELUYAH ((c) Jeff Buckley/Leonard Cohen) Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 08:23 AM
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2336869, Everyone should watch John Oliver's segment on the WC Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-12-14 10:00 AM
He perfectly explains how torn I am between excitement for soccer, and sadness at how awful FIFA and the Brazilian Government is.
Also has hilarious bits like how terrible Sepp Blatter is and the fact that FIFA is actually making a movie about itself ("where the business executives are the good guys!").
I'm reposting here from the other post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I
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2336877, oh my white people... Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 10:13 AM
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/222762/milwaukee-bar-constructs-fake-brazillian-slum-for-yuppies-to-enjoy-the-world-cup-in/
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2336881, Before I even clicked the link, I knew which bar it was Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jun-12-14 10:16 AM
Brady Street's turned so douchey
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2336882, wow Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 10:19 AM
edit: and lmao at all the apologetic comments, like this gem:
I can understand the indignation for the use of words like "shanty town" or "favela", but if you look at the pictures of the patio they've put together, it's very clear they're not celebrating poverty or crime or the myriad disadvantages and exploitation that people in the developing world experience. They're making a fun, festive, welcoming environment for people to enjoy a fun, festive, multicultural global sporting event. I
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2336897, yeah, the comments are all of the face palm variety. Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 10:40 AM
I'll say that before clicking the link I thought it would be even worse...because this was posted on my fb page, and the picture was one of the actual favela pictures, and I thought the bar had actually hired actors to be the 'SWAT team member' and the 'unfazed passerby'
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2336973, They're not celebrating poverty, just having fun with it! Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jun-12-14 01:09 PM
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2336972, White folk loved them some City of God Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Thu Jun-12-14 01:09 PM
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2336883, Anybody have a link to a stream? Posted by villian_1998, Thu Jun-12-14 10:19 AM
--------------------------------------- << Seattle by moonlight...
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2336888, Univision Deportes app lets anyone watch, no need for cable subscription Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 10:26 AM
at least until the Rd of 16 I think
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2336948, truth Posted by Drizzit, Thu Jun-12-14 12:25 PM
i'm rolling with it until the KO rounds ... then i scramble.
plus, spanish announcers!
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2337046, I loved listening to Univision's announcers four years ago Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jun-12-14 02:31 PM
The way they said "CherOOOOONdulo" was great
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2337094, the absolute best was their TSHABALALA Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 03:51 PM
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2336885, I'm so hype. Let's go Posted by sfMatt, Thu Jun-12-14 10:22 AM
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2336910, I ain't doing shit today, btw Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 10:59 AM
first of all, I'm quote-working-unquote from home but usually, I actually do work harder when I'm home
not today I cannot focus on anything non world cup related at all
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2336919, yup, same Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-12-14 11:06 AM
though I'm not doing shit tomorrow. hit the bar at noon I think.
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2336960, I wish I could watch it live Posted by walihorse, Thu Jun-12-14 12:56 PM
I'm going to be recording most of the games during the week. But I'm getting fucked up during the weekend
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2337035, watching Roberto Martinez explain tactics to Lalas is the greatest thing Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 02:20 PM
like plopping down a 3rd grader in an AP physics class
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2337041, lmfao. martinez is awesome. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 02:27 PM
wish we gave him a shot instead of that clown moyes,
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2337066, lol... lalas is so awful Posted by sfMatt, Thu Jun-12-14 02:45 PM
Really glad they've got Martinez again.
Happy to see Rae back on my TV as well.
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2337074, The one redeeming quality of ESPN coverage Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 02:52 PM
Was so glad to still see him there
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2337078, *Folds arms* Posted by HowieDooem, Thu Jun-12-14 03:01 PM
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2337080, hahahahaha Posted by Sleepy, Thu Jun-12-14 03:14 PM
That was sorry defending
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2337084, Deserved lead...Croatia has been so much sharper out of the gate Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 03:21 PM
They are really attacking Alves and Marcelo down the flanks
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2337085, But suddenly Brazil remembered how to attack. Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 03:26 PM
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2337087, neymar is that dude in a brazil jersey. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 03:31 PM
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2337088, Oscar deserves a ton of credit for creating that chance Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 03:33 PM
Not only dug out the ball vs two defenders but then calmly releases Neymar with a slight flick. Looked like Neymar scuffed that shot but it had a seeing-eye evidently.
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2337099, especially since he was pretty much down on the ground Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 03:58 PM
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2337089, Apropos of nothing, I hope Julio Cesar plays 'til he's 50. Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 03:34 PM
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2337093, a propos of Julio Cesar Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 03:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0yxuMwxfmc
after all of 7 starts for them
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2337097, He just seems like a good dude. Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 03:57 PM
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2337095, Danny Alves looks lost out there, doesn't appear to be too interested Posted by bentagain, Thu Jun-12-14 03:55 PM
in playing
I'd bench his ass in the 2nd half.
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2337100, hes interested in pushing forward Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 03:59 PM
But not so much in getting back
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2337098, Lalas: "the Croatian keeper should've stopped that" Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 03:58 PM
uugggh, HT show on mute status already
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2337103, I was just about to comment, he's so fucking terrible Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:02 PM
They should just have Roberto do the entire half-time and show tactics/ adjustments....lol, that's my dream at least.
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2337104, I thought both teams played well in the 1st half... Posted by Mr Teeth, Thu Jun-12-14 04:05 PM
Croatia played really tight, stopping Brazil from having space to play. They looked good on the counter attack.
Brazil were a bit nervous in the first 10 minutes, but they had a spark after that own goal and started putting on the pressure - it paid off with a goal.
So far Oscar and Rakitić both look like the best players on the field.
Bring on the 2nd half.
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2337105, Is Paulinho supposed to be good? Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Thu Jun-12-14 04:10 PM
There's some guys on the bench I know are good.
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2337107, Related question: what does Fred do, exactly? Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 04:13 PM
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2337110, He's really just there to poach Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:23 PM
If Costa was healthy, he'd surely be starting.
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2337111, diego costa? he plays for spain Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 04:25 PM
unless theres another costa out there.
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2337112, except Costa plays for Spain... Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:25 PM
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2337117, Oh my - what a brain fart lol Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:31 PM
I dunno why I always think he's a Brazilian
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2337122, He is. Dual citizenship. Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 04:33 PM
My understanding is that Brazilians were fairly pissed off when he picked Spain.
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2337125, Ah, I thought it was just all the crying and histrionics that confused me Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:34 PM
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2337124, well...because he is. he's naturalized Spanish. Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:34 PM
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2337129, RE: Oh my - what a brain fart lol Posted by Mr Teeth, Thu Jun-12-14 04:36 PM
>I dunno why I always think he's a Brazilian
lol, me too.
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2337114, Aha! Fred dives! That's what he does. Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-12-14 04:29 PM
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2337106, You can clearly see the Mourinho influence on Oscar Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:12 PM
The higher defensive work-rate, getting challenges in, geting his hands (feet?) dirty.
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2337113, I like this little spray paint trick Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:27 PM
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2337121, They've been using it in the North American leagues for a couple of years Posted by Sleepy, Thu Jun-12-14 04:33 PM
The rare time the CONCACAF is ahead of the game.
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2337164, that shit was dope! Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-12-14 05:29 PM
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2337115, Refs already favoring Brazilian flopping. SMH. Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Jun-12-14 04:30 PM
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2337116, Lougainis Posted by Sleepy, Thu Jun-12-14 04:30 PM
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2337118, kaka and cafu sighting. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 04:31 PM
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2337119, I guess the ball does lie in this case Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 04:32 PM
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2337120, welp, that's it for this ref. hopefully. Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:32 PM
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2337123, That's an atrocious penalty call Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:33 PM
If that's a penalty, then you can have 4-5 a game...easily.
Terribly taken penalty too...Neymar is very fortunate. If the keeper gets a flat palm, he has to parry that aside.
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2337126, so horrible. straight up, that's fucking amateur. Posted by PROMO, Thu Jun-12-14 04:35 PM
any ref worth a penny knows that was nothing. if it was anything, it should have been a yellow on the Brasilian for simulation.
too bad. totally ruined this game.
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2337592, RE: That's an atrocious penalty call Posted by bentagain, Fri Jun-13-14 10:13 AM
was it though?
seriously, yes, I'm seriously asking
obviously, I'm not a soccer head
but I do get into the WC
I'm sayin'
he grabbed Fred by both of his shoulders and pulled him back
yes Fred flopped, but that's what soccer players do right?
and it was smart, but I'm not convinced that it wasn't a foul
Fred knew where he was, knew it was a foul, and made sure the ref saw it
I have more of a problem with this play being the story
did we really expect there to NOT be a flop?
the ref plea cop in all sports really gets on my f'n nerves
it was a foul, yes?
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2337628, It wasn't a foul. Posted by Buck, Fri Jun-13-14 10:53 AM
>it was a foul, yes?
No.
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2337639, he didn't really pull him, he just laid his hands on him Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 10:58 AM
it wasn't a smart thing to do as a defender, because it gives the flopper a clear cut opportunity, but if the refs called foul for this type of thing, they would basically be whistling on any given play
the short version is what Buck said: no, it wasn't a foul
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2337127, That wasn't a penalty... Posted by Mr Teeth, Thu Jun-12-14 04:35 PM
Fred went down too easily. Goalkeeper should of saved it.
If Croatia lose this game, I don't think they should feel down; they've played quite well, especially in defense.
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2337144, They shouldn't feel down but they will. Nothing to show for it Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:49 PM
You have a lead, are hard done by the ref, and have multiple free header chances from good header players....you can't not feel down imo regardless of the positive play.
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2337128, what a disgrace Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:35 PM
Remember that when Altidore is getting kicked in the nuts with impunity on monday
The average american sports fan finds that disgusting and it keeps soccer on the fringes of americam consciousness
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2337133, yes, because American sports never suffer from awful refereeing Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 04:40 PM
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2337136, LOL Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:42 PM
Although with footy, you can argue that due to the scarcity of goals, a refereeing decision is often more impactful than the other sports.
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2337143, that's true Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:48 PM
which is why they should definitely allow video replay on PK calls or at least be more systematic about retroactive suspensions...Fred should be dismissed for a game or two now; wouldn't make up for the goal, but it would be something
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2337140, its not the calls, its the shameless diving and writhing on the ground Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:46 PM
And I dont think youre so dense as to have not understood that
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2337146, oh please Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:51 PM
diving is not the reason why Americans don't care about soccer that may the reason people are giving when asked about it, but that's not the real reason and I don't think you're dense enough to believe it is
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2337157, primary reason, maybe not. significant contributing factor, definitely. Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:57 PM
The general American sporting consciousness has been conditioned to admire the guys who put their heads down and play thru pain and injury.
The guys who hit the deck every time theres contact and then act like they hit a land mine inspire contempt.
Thats a significant hurdle to entry for most American sports fans.
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2337159, I understand it's annoying, I agree with it too Posted by benny, Thu Jun-12-14 05:01 PM
but ppl haven't stopped paying attention to the NBA during the Heat's run despite the flopping and histrionics and they wouldn't pay that much more attention to soccer if there were none. There are a lot of other factors, I'm not sure why you want to rationalize it through this one (while sounding, at least on the surface, somewhat smug about it)
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2337161, nah. Americans watch the NBA. Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 05:03 PM
Americans keep watching the NFL even after Urlacher came out and admitted players were faking injuries all the time
they don't watch soccer because 1- the US are not good at it (bit of chicken/egg situation) 2- there's not enough scoring 3- it requires a different attention span than all American sports (the closest would be hockey, and that's the least popular of the major sports)
diving/cheating is just the easiest answer
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2337163, yeah but the NBA fines players for doing that Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 05:19 PM
So in that instance, the governing body is taking action against it
Granted the fine amounts are a pittance compared to what players earn but still its an action.
In the NFL, yes play stops if a guy goes down holding a fake injury. But games dont turn on flopping and diving. The comparison is not very good.
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2337175, The NBA fining process is an absolute joke Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 06:11 PM
I'm not even talking about the amount of money, I'm talking about the number of flops that go unpunished. The fines have done nothing to curtail the flopping and it's actually becoming more rampant...all the NBA does is fine the completely ridiculous ones, that doesn't account for 95% of the other flops that go on consistently.
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2337575, technically, soccer players can get ejected for diving Posted by celery77, Fri Jun-13-14 09:24 AM
because "simulation" is a cardable offense and a FK is awarded against the team with the diving player. If a player were to receive a 2nd yellow card for simulation, they could be ejected from the game. The problem is you rarely see referees actually pull a card for diving, because the fact is the players are really good at it and it's difficult for one person to be able to determine with 100% accuracy during a live match.
Should also be noted that MLS is doing, actually has been doing for the last two years, same as the NBA, retroactive discipline for simulation. It's been just about as effective as the NBA's efforts in actually curbing the behavior, but hey -- if knowing guys get slapped on the wrist for it makes you feel better, that does happen.
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2337577, all leagues do retroactive discipline, even UEFA/FIFA Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 09:32 AM
but they're definitely not systematic enough with it Fred should get suspended for the rest of the group stage...he probably won't be though
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2338229, MLS is the only one i'm aware of that enforces it though Posted by jrocc, Sat Jun-14-14 10:45 AM
when's the last time someone got retroactively fined/suspsended for diving in a EUFA league? MLS is giving out fines and suspensions every week. if someone else regularly enforces it, i don't hear about it much.
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2337580, neither was your initial point Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 09:33 AM
>The comparison is not very good.
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2337132, Oscar is the best Brazilian by a wide margin today Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:37 PM
.
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2337137, Yep, I agree. n/m Posted by Mr Teeth, Thu Jun-12-14 04:42 PM
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2337138, Yup, not even close Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:43 PM
Mourinho must be smiling
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2337139, another dubious call (Olic on Julio Cesar) Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:45 PM
to me he clearly went straight up and for the ball, he was there earlier than Cesar
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2337141, Def borderline at best, but I don't have a problem with that call Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:47 PM
They are more than likely gonna protect the keepers in that situation.
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2337152, as they should if he gets there first or if it's 50/50 Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:53 PM
in this instance, he was a step late, Olic got his head on the ball before the contact...not a foul imo, especially when you royally fucked up 10 minutes before
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2337154, Right, but that's a very bang-bang judgement Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:55 PM
So I can understand how that was called a foul
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2337158, you make up for the bogus PK and swallow the whistle in this sitch Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 04:59 PM
Croatia got jobbed so bad overall
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2337177, Well firstly, the linesman called the foul Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 06:13 PM
and secondly, does the lead official know the penalty was a dive until he sees it after the game?
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2337186, you may be right, he might not know Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 07:32 PM
don't know if they have a jumbotron in that stadium, prolly not
but what should have happened is, somebody should have let 4th ref know, and he should have told all his 3 guys 'ayo...we fucked up. bad. let's do a make up call first chance we get'
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2337497, LOL Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 12:22 AM
>but what should have happened is, somebody should have let 4th >ref know, and he should have told all his 3 guys 'ayo...we >fucked up. bad. let's do a make up call first chance we get'
That's already funny but imagining that scene in Japanese has me dying.
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2337142, If this team is the favorite...I BELIEVE!!! Posted by bentagain, Thu Jun-12-14 04:47 PM
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2337145, if Croatia was better in the air, they'd have won Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:49 PM
So many chances
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2337165, what chances? Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-12-14 05:30 PM
Croatia defended well but their attack was almost non-existent today until the last 5 minutes.
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2337187, uh, no. Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 07:34 PM
they were as dangerous as, if not more than Brazil in the first half it was counters, they didn't hold the ball, but they had the better chances (that Olic header in particular)
they did step down in the second half...but mostly, they got jobbed
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2337498, They had a great chance in the 10th minute Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 12:25 AM
Cross to the far-post, right over the out of position Alves (shocking, I know)...completely clean header from 7 yards...really needs to be on net at least and it goes 3 yards wide. Croatia was pretty damn good in the first 15 mins going forward , they were killing Marcelo and Alves.
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2337578, right and then after 15m it was basically nothing Posted by smutsboy, Fri Jun-13-14 09:33 AM
until the final 8 mins or so.
So in 90 mins they basically had maybe a handful of decent chances.
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2337147, just like that CRO goes from stalking down the equalizer... Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-12-14 04:51 PM
To a -2 GD
Damn.
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2337148, how the hell? Posted by hardware, Thu Jun-12-14 04:51 PM
all three of these goals have weird asterisks
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2337149, i hope they bury this ref for good. Posted by PROMO, Thu Jun-12-14 04:52 PM
now that he knows he blew he's not calling anything.
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2337150, Oscar is so damn good...but that's really poor GK'ing Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:52 PM
Dude was on that dial-up modem steez....such lag time on that reaction.
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2337151, oscar caught the gk flat w/ the toepoke. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 04:52 PM
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2337155, Flat with his feet in cement Posted by LA2Philly, Thu Jun-12-14 04:55 PM
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2337153, That goal was reminiscent of... Posted by Mr Teeth, Thu Jun-12-14 04:54 PM
the toe poke Ronaldo scored in the 20O2 World Cup.
MOTM: Oscar.
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2337162, that should have been 2-2. awful officiating. Posted by sfMatt, Thu Jun-12-14 05:17 PM
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2337167, croatia's goalie was just as bad Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-12-14 05:31 PM
nobody deserved to win this game.
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2337166, Americans: are you guys... Posted by Mr Teeth, Thu Jun-12-14 05:31 PM
watching this game at work? What times does the games start for you guys?
In England (UK) it's going either 5pm, 7pm or 11pm for kick off. Ivory Coast vs Japan will the only late game - with a 2am start!
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2337171, Noon, 3pm, 6pm and 9pm EST. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-12-14 05:46 PM
today was 4pm cause they took forever to start.
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2337184, overnight kickoffs are underrated if you ask me Posted by sfMatt, Thu Jun-12-14 06:47 PM
I fucking loved being up all night for Japan/Korea in `02.
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2337572, Japan/Korea I'd wake up at like 4am or whenever Posted by smutsboy, Fri Jun-13-14 09:15 AM
and watch before work
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2337190, I'M TOTALLY LEADING THE OKS COPA MADNESS, BTW Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jun-12-14 07:52 PM
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2337408, Vet this World Cup game team pool invented while blazed Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Jun-12-14 10:42 PM
If it works anyone wanna tryit out for fun?
1. Rank teams 1-32
2.In the group stage teams receive the same number of points as they do in pool 3perW 1perD 0perL
(maybe add some multiplier here based on seeding?)
3a. If a team wins the Round of 16game you get 1 pt + whatever rank you have them. i.e. Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 1pt for W+ 1pt for seeding.
3b. If a team wins the Round of 16 game you get 1 pt + the "inverse?" of what you ranked them. i.e Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 1pt for W+ 32pt for seeding.
4a. If a team wins the qtrfinal game you get 8 pts + whatever rank you have them. i.e. Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 8pts for W+ 1pt for seeding.
4b. If a team wins the qtrfinal game you get 8 pt + the "inverse?" of what you ranked them. i.e Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 8pts for W+ 32pt for seeding
5a. If a team wins the semifinal game you get 16 pts + whatever rank you have them. i.e. Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 16pts for W+ 1pt for seeding.
5b. If a team wins the semifinal game you get 16 pts + the "inverse?" of what you ranked them. i.e Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 16pts for W+ 32pt for seeding..
6a. If a team wins the final game you get 32 pts + whatever rank you have them. i.e. Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 32pts for W+ 1pt for seeding.
6b. If a team wins the final game you get 32 pts + the "inverse?" of what you ranked them. i.e Brazil wins and they're you;re #1 ranked team you get 32pts for W+ 32pt for seeding..
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2337621, Mexico vs Cameroon Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 10:50 AM
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2337625, So do Americans root for Mexico... Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 10:51 AM
in these tournaments?
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2337631, uh, do English fans root for Germany? Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 10:54 AM
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2337635, Possibly against France. Posted by Buck, Fri Jun-13-14 10:56 AM
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2337638, nah Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 10:58 AM
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2337656, I understand why you would ask that... Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 11:19 AM
but I thought it might be different between Mexico and USA - since a lot Mexicans do live in the US.
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2337650, Cameroon look shaky. Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 11:15 AM
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2337648, Cameroon has gotta be six inches taller at every position. Posted by Buck, Fri Jun-13-14 11:14 AM
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2337652, yeah, they just need one free kick/corner kick Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 11:16 AM
then they can just sit back, relax and watch Mexicans play some really pretty futbol to set up countless chances and waste them all
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2337661, Most hated? Posted by hardware, Fri Jun-13-14 11:23 AM
Marquez v Blanco
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2337669, Can someone explain why that corner header goal didn't count? Posted by Oak27, Fri Jun-13-14 11:33 AM
From what I got from the announcers since the defender touched it first the Mexican player became offside?
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2337670, I'm puzzled too Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 11:35 AM
since a Cameroon player touched it, offsides shouln't be possible, no?
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2337671, I'm watching w/one eye and on mute, but imo it should have counted Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 11:37 AM
>From what I got from the announcers since the defender >touched it first the Mexican player became offside?
no, precisely because the defender touched it, they should not have been called offside
unless I'm missing something
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2337673, Yeah I'm lost and new to soccer. I'm real confused. Posted by Oak27, Fri Jun-13-14 11:41 AM
Hopefully they break it down at halftime.
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2337678, RE: I'm watching w/one eye and on mute, but imo it should have counted Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 11:53 AM
>>From what I got from the announcers since the defender >>touched it first the Mexican player became offside? > >no, precisely because the defender touched it, they should not >have been called offside > >unless I'm missing something >
Yes, you're right. It was mistake by the assistant ref.
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2337684, It doesn't make sense. Posted by Sleepy, Fri Jun-13-14 12:01 PM
The only thing I could possibly understand is if the assistant ref saw the ball coming off the attackers head. Then, the ball would have been considered a pass and possibly offside. Any other call is just plain wrong.
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2337703, that's what he must have seen, yes Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 12:17 PM
>if the >assistant ref saw the ball coming off the attackers head.
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2337686, because you're not allowed to cheat. Posted by bshelly, Fri Jun-13-14 12:07 PM
Fuck Mexico.
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2337699, Got it. Posted by Oak27, Fri Jun-13-14 12:14 PM
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2337708, not paying much attention, but refereeing seems really bad again Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 12:19 PM
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2337711, Mexico 2 Cameroon 0 Posted by Buck, Fri Jun-13-14 12:21 PM
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2337715, yeah, this is definitely well deserved Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 12:24 PM
they also gave Cameroon some iffy free kicks fuck me though, this is not what I had picked
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2337716, Finally got one that counted. That initial save was great though. Posted by Oak27, Fri Jun-13-14 12:25 PM
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2337770, Cameroon were terrible... Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 01:10 PM
Mexico really deserved that win - probably should have been 3-0.
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2337781, man the coverage on Univision is so much more fun Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 01:24 PM
think I might skip ESPN for all the Central/South American teams. Heck even Spain-Holland while we're at it
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2337808, Spain v Holland Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 02:00 PM
this truly starts the world cup for me
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2337815, good looking jersey on Holland (per usual) Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:04 PM
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2337822, I like their oranges, but solid set of kits overall for sure Posted by Oak27, Fri Jun-13-14 02:13 PM
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2337820, damn. wes should've put that one away. Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:11 PM
I realize now I'm totally rooting against my pick here
I thought I wouldn't care because I don't have much love for this dutch generation, but I really would enjoy seeing Spain fall flat on their face, and it's taking over
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2337830, RE: damn. wes should've put that one away. Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 02:19 PM
http://www.troll.me/images/grinning-emperor-palpatine/goooooood-let-the-hate-flow-through-you.jpg
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2337834, it really is Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:22 PM
the dutch defense needs to stop slide tackling all reckless in the box, I was surprised Costa didn't look for the foul
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2337836, prescient posting Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 02:26 PM
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2337838, these referees all suck balls Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:28 PM
but I guess this one was tricky to spot. we need video replay on every PK call, man. we've been needing it.
this game is a wrap now.
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2337841, yeah I can't remember a major competition that was this bad this early Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 02:31 PM
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2337844, That didn't look like a penalty to me... Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 02:33 PM
I thought Costa caught Vlaar's legs.
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2337850, de vlaar slid Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:36 PM
if you slide on a fake and make contact, they're always giving it to the attacking player in this instance, there was actually no contact at all...
but that's what you get for a dumb slide tackle attempt, good defenders stay on their feet
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2337839, Another Ghost Penalty Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Jun-13-14 02:29 PM
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2337840, I hate that penalty call...that's completely fabricated by Costa Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 02:30 PM
Defender is sliding away from Costa and Costa sticks his left leg onto the defender's foot...penalty. C'mon.
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2337843, if you peep the replay, he didn't even touch him Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:32 PM
but that's on the defender for sliding in the box you don't do it unless you're a 100% sure you're getting the ball first...in this instance, he had almost no shot at the ball, so that was really stupid
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2337849, Defender certainly created the risk Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 02:36 PM
But I think you'll agree that the referee has to be better
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2337855, honestly, at live speed, I thought he clipped him Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:38 PM
but yeah, you would hope the referee on the spot was better than me watching tv mostly, I'm mad at the lack of video replay
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2337854, is it really that impossible to find a competent referee? Posted by PROMO, Fri Jun-13-14 02:37 PM
FIFA looking real bad right now, on many levels.
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2337857, at game speed thats always going to be a pen. the defender fucked up Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jun-13-14 02:42 PM
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2337852, So Brazil hates this Costa dude huh? Posted by Oak27, Fri Jun-13-14 02:36 PM
Reading up about him I don't blame them. But I am now hoping we see a Brazil/Spain matchup in the knockout phase, ideally with Costa scoring the game winner.
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2337860, first GOLAZO of the tournament Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:45 PM
damn, that was sweet and I hate Van Persie
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2337865, that's gonna eat at Spain at half-time, too. GOOD. Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:47 PM
Silva almost put the game away, and then boom, tie. go marinate on that for 15 minutes, bitches.
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2337861, YOOOOOOOOOOO Posted by hardware, Fri Jun-13-14 02:45 PM
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2337862, RVP da gawd Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jun-13-14 02:46 PM
Heres to many RVP & LVG celevrations in the next year
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2337864, Now that's just beautiful Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 02:46 PM
The run, the ball, the impeccable finish by RVP.
Lol Ramos lol...not sure if he was trying to play the high line but he let RVP go right off his shoulder and Pique played him in by 3 yards.
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2337879, the lucidity is pretty amazing Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 02:55 PM
>the impeccable finish by RVP. >
if he chests it, he's likely to get to close to Casillas and give him a much better chance in the 1-on-1 he saw him come up from the corner of his eye and made up his mind to go for the lob in a split second
goal scorer's sixth sense
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2337869, both defenses looking real iffy Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 02:49 PM
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2337878, Both playing somewhat high lines with minimal pressure on the ball Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 02:55 PM
That's a recipe for leaking chances
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2337875, RVP DA GAWD!!! Posted by PROMO, Fri Jun-13-14 02:52 PM
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2337888, I nearly fell out in my cube seeing that Posted by Marauder21, Fri Jun-13-14 03:04 PM
Time to get the fuck home
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2337881, Goal was great, but my favorite dutch rapper, Daily Blind, stunner Posted by B9, Fri Jun-13-14 02:57 PM
of a ball.
And what was Casillas thinking?
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2337884, re: Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:00 PM
definitely has had his share of mistakes this season. Might need to reconsider my stance on Espana being almost underrated this tourney
>And what was Casillas thinking?
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2337886, I don't think Casillas did anything wrong Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:02 PM
he was coming out to close the angles, as most players would have tried to score on two touches in this situation this was just a stroke of genius from RVP
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2337895, YES. Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:10 PM
fuck my pick
I hate Robben too, but that's another outstanding goal. gotdamn.
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2337896, dat touch Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:12 PM
2-0 Spain you say? Someone must've hacked my Yahoo account
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2337898, I had them winning 1-zip in traditional spain bitchass fashion. Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:15 PM
after they scored first, I really thought it was a wrap, but for some reason they're not dominating possession like they usually do
and now things could get worse for them because the dutch are traditionally a great counter team
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2337902, ^^case in point Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:19 PM
>and now things could get worse for them because the dutch are >traditionally a great counter team
that would have been a third gorgeous goal dutch need to chill though, Silva was close again
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2337897, so whos this dude Daley Blind Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jun-13-14 03:15 PM
2 great assists
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2337899, Cotdamn that was awesome. Posted by MiQL, Fri Jun-13-14 03:16 PM
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2337900, Sweet strike from Persie! Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 03:18 PM
Could have been a lovely goal.
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2337903, my attention span at work is approx. 0.2secs right now Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:21 PM
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2337904, ok, this one is totally on Iker *edit* actually, this was a foul. Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:22 PM
much more of a foul than yesterday on Julio Cesar more shitty officiating
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2337947, I thought for sure that's gonna be waived off Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jun-13-14 03:48 PM
When RVP went into Casillas and completely negated his punch of the cross. This officiating man....impossible to get any kind of feel.
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2337905, casillas is finished. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jun-13-14 03:22 PM
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2337906, I agree he declined, but he was fouled on this goal Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:24 PM
still, they should play De Gea. they likely won't.
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2337913, all right, maybe they will now Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:31 PM
jeez, brutal day for Iker
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2337914, ho.lee.shit Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:31 PM
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2337918, I know you see that goal average go down the toilet Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:34 PM
in a group that may very well end up in a 3-way 6 points tie, it matters a lot
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2337915, ven Victor Valdes never fucked up that bad Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jun-13-14 03:33 PM
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2337933, Yep. Valdes quietly a key missing player Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Jun-13-14 03:42 PM
He is also loud as fuck to his defenders, might have helped with some of their terrible positioning. ----------- Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow
Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
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2337916, lmao at the conga line going on in the stands Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:33 PM
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2337923, fif (c) Chappelle Posted by cipha_2, Fri Jun-13-14 03:38 PM
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2337924, SPN 1-5 NED, never saw this coming! n/m Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 03:38 PM
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2337925, GUILE Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jun-13-14 03:38 PM
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2337927, wow. this shit is getting embarrassing now. Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:39 PM
Casillas running and tripping after Robben was hilarious
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2337928, is Pop coaching the Oranje too? Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:39 PM
actually Kawhi Leonard kinda sounds like a name you'd see on the Dutch squad
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2337930, Fucking embarrassing Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Jun-13-14 03:40 PM
Not gonna get out of the group playing like this. Shit defense, shit goalkeeping, shit finishing.
Only player who wasn't embarrassing himself was alba. And I guess Cesar and Xavi. Give de gea a start, replace Xavi Alonso with Martinez, and silva with cesc or something. Fuck balls. Guess you have to go through Brazil eventually if you want a chance to win, just didn't want it to be so early. Then again, play even half fs badly against chile, and you'll lose again. Fuck.
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2337942, even if they beat Chile (assuming Australia goes w/o saying) Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:45 PM
Chile can beat anybody in that group, including the dutch goal average will matter, and it's going to be tough to recover from this total bed shitting
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2337931, aw, man Del Bosque's salt face is filling me w/so much joy Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:41 PM
Xavi's too.
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2337938, Wow. I went to fix something to eat at 2-1. Posted by Buck, Fri Jun-13-14 03:43 PM
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2337939, Also, fuck FIFA for these white jerseys Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Jun-13-14 03:44 PM
Real Madrid looking fucks fucking up. Fuck all of this. ----------- Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow
Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
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2337940, Dutch want to completely demoralize Spain Posted by Marauder21, Fri Jun-13-14 03:44 PM
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2337948, 4 more minutes of this ass whooping Posted by hardware, Fri Jun-13-14 03:48 PM
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2337949, Fuck you Torres. Fuck. Posted by thejerseytornado, Fri Jun-13-14 03:49 PM
Also, this ref really needed to learn the advantage rule. And protect goalies. And I'm fucking mad.
----------- Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow
Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
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2337952, Most remarkable group game since France-Senegal in 02? Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 03:51 PM
Obvs it doesn't have quite the same disparity between the teams in terms of reputation, but the size of this beatdown is unbelievable
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2337963, I liked the Argentina pantsing of Serbia in 2006 Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:56 PM
w/the 25 passes goal but yeah, you're probably right in terms of shock factor
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2337953, Daley Blind is about to see a wholly different pay check next yr Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 03:51 PM
don't think he's going to stay w/Ajax for too much longer if he keeps sonning entire teams like this
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2337957, Agreed. He's gonna get paid Posted by dillinjah, Fri Jun-13-14 03:53 PM
>don't think he's going to stay w/Ajax for too much longer if >he keeps sonning entire teams like this
Not that there was any way ajax was going to hang onto him in the first place, but I was at least hoping for another year there. It's prolly gonna happen this summer
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2338117, Nickname: Blind Fury Posted by PROMO, Fri Jun-13-14 08:59 PM
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2337969, When you start Xavi over Koke in 2014 Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Fri Jun-13-14 04:04 PM
this is what happens. Their midfield is flabby and sick... there is no way a Ramos/Pique partnership can withstand that lack of protection. They weren't "tired" at the Confederations Cup lol. I don't know why that old, old man with the trophies he has won doesn't turn a new leaf.. it could only further his legacy.
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2338302, what dumb posting,tho Posted by thejerseytornado, Sat Jun-14-14 03:53 PM
Xavi and koke arent comparable in terms of position (koke is waaaaaay too attacking oriented to replace xavi. Thiago woulda been the option, but he's hurt) and xavi wasnt the problem. He handed costa three primo chances. It was the backline and dmfs.
Im still mad. ----------- Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow
Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou
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2337976, here he comes to save the daaaayyy Posted by benny, Fri Jun-13-14 04:13 PM
https://vine.co/v/Mj33tT016zl
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2337989, ORANJE CRUSH!!! Posted by PROMO, Fri Jun-13-14 04:28 PM
MY DUDES!!!
KICK ROCKS SPAIN!
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2337990, Chile and Australia to end the day Posted by Marauder21, Fri Jun-13-14 04:28 PM
Looking forward to watching the Chileans this year.
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2337999, I missed the Spain/Netherlands match... Posted by Sleepy, Fri Jun-13-14 04:47 PM
Just saw the score? WTH?????
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2338010, 2 goals in under 15 minutes... Posted by Mr Teeth, Fri Jun-13-14 05:15 PM
I hope no one decided to skip this match lol.
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2338012, I've barely seen the Chilean defense thus far. Posted by MiQL, Fri Jun-13-14 05:19 PM
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2338011, Valdívia slicing through all your defenses, man. Posted by MiQL, Fri Jun-13-14 05:16 PM
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2338027, Aussies get one Posted by Marauder21, Fri Jun-13-14 05:35 PM
Good for Cahill, I've always liked dude.
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2338055, underwhelming showing from Chile, really Posted by nighttripper, Fri Jun-13-14 06:35 PM
Australians are playing better than I thought they would, but still
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2338230, Hmmm Mitroglu's not starting Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 10:47 AM
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2338233, OG Soccer Jesus v bootleg Soccer Jesus Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 10:54 AM
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2338235, COLOMBIA. JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA. Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 11:02 AM
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2338236, great play by Cuadrado Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 11:10 AM
he's my pick for revelation of the tournament
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2338241, RE: great play by Cuadrado Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 11:39 AM
>he's my pick for revelation of the tournament
That goal is a "goal of the tournament" contender. Nice play altogether.
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2338243, Huh? Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 11:42 AM
>That goal is a "goal of the tournament" contender. Nice play >altogether.
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2338256, yeah, I don't think it's going to be in the top 5 either Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 12:15 PM
but definitely top 5 celebration contender
https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/1ED2DAE2821089629590399410176_22e41746936.0.3.3859960844915758240.mp4?versionId=NTL3h6aDjo4LNdZqwjRbJceWXvJ7hrFh
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2338266, RE: yeah, I don't think it's going to be in the top 5 either Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 12:59 PM
>but definitely top 5 celebration contender > >https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/1ED2DAE2821089629590399410176_22e41746936.0.3.3859960844915758240.mp4?versionId=NTL3h6aDjo4LNdZqwjRbJceWXvJ7hrFh
You guys didn't think that was a good goal?
Yep, nice celebration.
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2338269, don't think it's on par w/the Dutch goals Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 01:06 PM
the first Van Persie and first Robben ones or even with the second Chilean goal
and it's still early, so I don't think it's going to be anywhere near the top of the list at tournament's end
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2338288, RE: don't think it's on par w/the Dutch goals Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 02:56 PM
>the first Van Persie and first Robben ones >or even with the second Chilean goal > >and it's still early, so I don't think it's going to be >anywhere near the top of the list at tournament's end
I see, no problem.
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2338237, Greek keeper just needed a bag of popcorn Posted by RagOnMe, Sat Jun-14-14 11:14 AM
and oversized soda
"Damn, he almost stopped that....wait, I can still stop it!" *ball rolls across line*
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2338238, Ibarbo clocking like a 4.2 40 there Posted by RagOnMe, Sat Jun-14-14 11:29 AM
maybe 3.9 if he wasn't having to dribble a ball
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2338247, SEC boosters about to pony up for a S. American scout Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 11:54 AM
that is if they could peel themselves away from the US Open
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2338244, Spanish-speaking heads: Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 11:48 AM
It sounds to me like the Univision dude keeps saying "tiro de quina" for corner kicks instead of "tiro de esquina". Am I hearing wrong or is that a common expression?
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2338245, I think it's just south americans swallow a lot of syllables Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 11:50 AM
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2338246, Gotcha, tks Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 11:52 AM
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2338251, The "S" between a vowel and consonant tends to get swallowed Posted by RagOnMe, Sat Jun-14-14 12:06 PM
escuela = e~cuela
pescado = pe~cado (actually, it's more like pe~cao)
And that ~ is a subtle, brief kinda back-of-the-throat breathing out/"hawking" sound, so "de esquina" turns into "de~quina".
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2338248, are we really buying it's "major" news Buffon is out? Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 11:55 AM
We all saw Iker with Spain yesterday
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2338255, Sirigu is a world class keeper, so no Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 12:10 PM
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2338252, major props to futbol jesus and to the ref here Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 12:08 PM
he went down in the box kind of instinctively after pushing the ball too far, but immediately signaled there was no foul ref didn't give a yellow card
if only it could go down like that every time
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2338281, oddly enough, Mark Geiger was very good. Posted by PROMO, Sat Jun-14-14 01:50 PM
he's an MLS ref, so for those of us that watch MLS a lot, that's a bit surprising (tho to be fair he's one of the better MLS refs).
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2338257, fuck, I could have used a Greek goal. Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 12:22 PM
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2338264, another great rush from Cuadrado to set up that 3rd goal Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 12:55 PM
that's a top shelf player
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2338265, Colombia were relentless Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 12:57 PM
Tough game for Greece to start with, but if that header had gone in...
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2338270, Greece totally faded in the last 20 minutes Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 01:07 PM
they don't look too fit
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2338285, Stewart Robson is easily my fav color commentator Posted by LA2Philly, Sat Jun-14-14 02:14 PM
Knows the game extremely well, will speak on player strengths and weaknesses, game tactics, and will be bluntly honest.
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2338287, He's the guy on this CRC v URU? He's not familiar to me. Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 02:49 PM
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2338286, not just the save, but having to adjust from the initial shot -- WOW! Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 02:47 PM
It will really take something to make for a better save than that one in this tournament, imo
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2338290, shoulda guessed this WC would become a referendum on Wenger, too Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:15 PM
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2338291, only fools are eager to play CONCACAF teams Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:17 PM
n/m
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2338292, Good comeback by Costa Rica. n/m Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 03:18 PM
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2338293, Fantastic 2d half so far Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 03:35 PM
England and Italy might need to watch out too
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2338294, this is the real group of death, Ticos are hard to beat if nothing else Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:43 PM
>England and Italy might need to watch out too
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2338295, I ain't know homeboy from Uruguay acts on the side Posted by calminvasion, Sat Jun-14-14 03:45 PM
http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/curb-your-enthusiasm/episodes/5/43/the-christ-nail-02-1024.jpg
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2338296, inspiring performance by Costa Rica; god bless the WC Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:46 PM
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2338300, Major major props to them Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 03:50 PM
Played without fear, really went for that 3rd goal too
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2338297, Better Arsenal 3rd striker option: Campbell or Sanogo Posted by calminvasion, Sat Jun-14-14 03:47 PM
I fux with Campbell. Bring him back and send Sanogo out on loan for a year
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2338299, all I see are first options in red and white Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:49 PM
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2338298, Suarez on the bench looking like "godDAMN I wanna bite a fool!" Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:48 PM
D
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2338301, Also, I really fux with the team celebrations this year Posted by calminvasion, Sat Jun-14-14 03:50 PM
Holland kinda started it, but I'm all for the homies on the bench getting some
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2338303, fuck that Uruguayan piece of shit, COMPLETELY deserved Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:54 PM
how you gonna melt down in the first game like that?
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2338304, CON. CA. CAF. CON. CA. CAF. CON. CA. CAF. Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:55 PM
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2338305, Italy v. England setting up perfectly to be the dud game of the day Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 03:56 PM
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2338306, The dilemma of watching WC in public Posted by calminvasion, Sat Jun-14-14 04:02 PM
I want to go out and watch the Italy/eng game at a bar and gets some food with a couple of friends. But while there are a lot of good soccer focused bar in Chi, they're always ridiculously packed and standing room only - especially for an England game. Go to a standard bar and there's the risk of haggling to get it on the big TV vs. a white sox game or some shit.
Still hunting for some in between shit
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2338307, I still haven't decided where I'm watching USA on Monday Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 04:20 PM
gotta work in the morning, so I can go from work to a spot to watch, or just head home, but I'm already caught in the same bind -- either huge crowds, chintzy corporate spots, or the tiny bar that still hasn't bought a flat screen. Might just settle on the couch so I will have as few distractions as possible.
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2338309, flaky on corner quicks as usual tho Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 05:07 PM
on the other side Joe Hart is trying his best to uphold the proud tradition of English keepers at the WC
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2338310, surprised by how much space Pirlo has Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 05:13 PM
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2338314, Me too...by the way... Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 05:24 PM
what's the name of the yellow boots Pirlo's (and other players) wearing?
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2338315, Kinda like this England squad. Posted by Buck, Sat Jun-14-14 05:26 PM
Sturridge/Sterling/Welbeck is a nice change from previous years, and Cahill/Jagielka looks solid.
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2338316, :( Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 05:35 PM
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2338318, Good reply from England. n/m Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 05:37 PM
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2338320, great ball from Rooney Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 05:39 PM
Italians fell asleep after their goal tho
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2338317, do they give the half-assist to Pirlo on that goal? Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 05:36 PM
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2338319, can you believe England would consider Sterling a "surprise" inclusion? Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 05:38 PM
what the fuck is wrong with that country's football culture...
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2338321, smh @ England "physio" getting a severe injury on the celebration... Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 05:41 PM
act like you been there before Subjects of the Queen!
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2338322, The pitch in Manaus is rough. Posted by Buck, Sat Jun-14-14 05:47 PM
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2338323, or they need to take line-dancing lessons from Colombia Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 05:49 PM
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2338325, that's under-selling it. Posted by PROMO, Sat Jun-14-14 05:51 PM
it's a fucking sandlot that they painted green. literally.
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2338324, Balotelli might need to come off in the 2d half Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 05:50 PM
Would like to see what Immobile does against this staid English defense
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2338326, that lob attempt was really sweet, though Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 05:54 PM
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2338328, no doubt Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 06:01 PM
weird that they didn't show the goal-line replay, but I guess it wasn't as close as it seemed
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2338329, APOLOGIZE ((c) O_E) Posted by nighttripper, Sat Jun-14-14 06:10 PM
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2338331, hahaha Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 06:15 PM
shocking "cover" by Cahill on that play tho
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2338330, RE: no doubt Posted by Buck, Sat Jun-14-14 06:13 PM
https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/10/28/1319832557115/Mario-Balotelli-006.jpg
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2338336, Is Rooney in England's best XI? Posted by Buck, Sat Jun-14-14 06:28 PM
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2338340, England's? no. Nike's? sadly, yes. Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 06:32 PM
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2338436, Waste of space. Posted by smutsboy, Sun Jun-15-14 09:39 AM
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2338342, was it the pitch that made Rooney put that corner into the stands? Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 06:37 PM
or could it be Rooney is grossly overrated?
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2338344, apparently Rooney thinks WC stands for Worst Corner Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 06:40 PM
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2338348, Is it just that he's in decline already? Posted by Buck, Sat Jun-14-14 06:45 PM
He just has a lot less spark and energy than the other three guys up front. Seemed like in the past even if he played poorly he at least played with energy.
Maybe the better lineup is to swap Milner or somebody in as the second holding mid, move Gerrard up a bit, and play with 3 up front?
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2338354, Wayne needs to switch sponsors, sign up for that Kobe System Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 06:51 PM
n/m
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2338347, there needs to be a dedicated "England Fans in Heat" cam Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 06:43 PM
those pasty, fish + chip fed drunks look like they're having the time of their lives in Manaus right now
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2338352, "My! Dear!" says Mrs. Habershire in response to that Sterling shank Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 06:50 PM
while politely checking her watch to see how long until she can leave
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2338358, cotdang that free-kick seemed so effortless, what a beaut Posted by benny, Sat Jun-14-14 06:53 PM
Pirlo fully deserved for that one to go in
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2338361, Fucking hell, why is Pirlo so good!? n/m Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 06:57 PM
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2338360, Separated at birth: Posted by Buck, Sat Jun-14-14 06:56 PM
http://www.thefootballramble.com/images/blog/hi-res-163286081_crop_650x440.jpg
http://kasekinney.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/the-hound.jpg
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2338367, Côte d'Ivoire vs Japan Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 07:54 PM
You guys watching this?
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2338376, WHOA! masterpiece of engineering by Keisuke Honda! Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 08:18 PM
alls I gotta say is that dude was a MONSTER for me when I signed him in FM12
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2338386, world cup makes me want to buy FM Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Jun-14-14 08:54 PM
I always sign Honda
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2338389, Steam just put 14 on sale recently, save 75% -- dunno the expiration Posted by celery77, Sat Jun-14-14 09:05 PM
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2338424, do you have 14? Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sun Jun-15-14 06:51 AM
15 comes out in a couple months.
I mean I love all the added features but I miss some of the simplicity of 99 and 00.
It seems like all the newer versions end up buggy and you cant score goals or score too many goals.
The idea of it is fun, but the gameplay gets frustrating quick.
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2338442, Still playing 13. Posted by Buck, Sun Jun-15-14 10:11 AM
May spring for 15 when it arrives. Usually skip a year between releases.
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2338474, I'm on 12, waiting on 15 lol Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 12:53 PM
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2339331, have 14 and played for a month before moving back to 10 Posted by Drizzit, Mon Jun-16-14 12:13 PM
10 is my sweet spot, before you had to deal with agents or convince players to tutor or any of that crap.
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2338391, watching it on univision... Posted by Flash80, Sat Jun-14-14 09:23 PM
highly entertaining.
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2338379, "Africans being tested mentally" <-- 'CISM? Posted by dgardfrey, Sat Jun-14-14 08:25 PM
I'm not a soccer head, but almost every time I watch an African team, I hear some variation of that statement
or I hear that statement in reference to a black player on any team
ESPN just shared a stat that African teams are 4-47-11 when conceding the first goal. as evidence of them being front-runners who lack the mental toughness to battle adversity
my first thought is, how many of these teams were favored to win? the underdog would get scored on first and usually loses
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2338387, I didnt look at betting odds but id say these two teams Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Jun-14-14 08:56 PM
are even
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2338392, welp. Ivory Coast is up 2-1 now Posted by dgardfrey, Sat Jun-14-14 09:24 PM
two glancing headers within like 5 mins of each other
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2338428, I'd say Ivory Coast was a clear favorite Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 08:48 AM
lots of experienced good to great players on that team, plus they gotta be hungry because this whole generation has been underachieving up to now and it's their last shot
that said, it was a bit of a weird point to make about 'African' teams I'd like to see the stats of all teams conceding a goal first, for balance
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2338479, Yeah, I caught that one, but I found it more strange that they would Posted by bentagain, Sun Jun-15-14 12:56 PM
group that entire continent together like that
they did throw in a funfact that CIV was the last african team to come back from that deficit
but yeah, something about that whole narrative was strange, IMO
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2338484, it's funny, tho, I did hear Bob Bradley speak on his time with Egypt Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 01:03 PM
and Bob said one of the biggest, most fundamental things he needed to get in place was keeping the players from reacting so emotionally to any kind of adversity, drilling into them that they need to trust in a system that will create chances and opportunities for a result, even if the team falls behind. He said that was by far the biggest thing he had to do, drilling a resilient mindset into the players and trying to get them playing less emotionally.
Obviously it's ridiculous to take that and apply it to the whole continent, but I think that's where the generalization comes from.
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2338488, Being a soccer novice, it's more about using a stat like that Posted by bentagain, Sun Jun-15-14 01:35 PM
for example
in the NBA playoffs, some repeated stats
MIA hasn't lost back to back games in the playoffs since the formation of the Big 3
MIA hasn't lost a home playoff game this year, etc...
being a US sports fan, I'm use to stats being more relevant to the club, than geography
you wouldn't hear those same examples give in the narrative of
NBA teams in FLA, or NBA teams in the Eastern Conference, etc...
the stats are more relevant to the team
i.e., DIV's record when giving up the first goal is _____
that's why I found it strange
Bob Bradley's experience aside, the danger is putting that label on an entire continent
especially when the team that your applying that stat to, is actually the team that has overcome that stat
so yeah, just strange
would you hear a stat like that for North America? I couldn't see there being a parallel between MEX and the US that folks wouldn't think was a reach.
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2338526, to further illustrate, they just ran a stat the FRA is 17-0 when leading Posted by bentagain, Sun Jun-15-14 03:14 PM
at the half
not European countries are ____ when leading at the half
another strange thing about the African countries stat
was that for all African countries all-time
the reason I ask, is I believe this is CIV 3rd straight WC
and hence being termed their golden era
it would be more relevant to have stats on that team and not a continent, IMO
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2338385, Good first half... Posted by Mr Teeth, Sat Jun-14-14 08:54 PM
I thought Ivory coast deserved to be in the lead with all those chances, but Japan were organised and defended well.
I like both teams, so I'm not too bothered who wins. I draw would be good for me though ;)
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2338429, not gonna front, Costa Rica (+ celery's troll job) got me nervous Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 08:54 AM
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2338486, all muscle, fouls, and set pieces (with a *touch* of skill) in CONCACAF Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 01:05 PM
very results oriented soccer -- need to minimize mistakes, capitalize on all opportunities.
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2338433, Raheem Sterling. Posted by smutsboy, Sun Jun-15-14 09:28 AM
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2338438, This Italian team might be more of a dark horse than I thought Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 09:47 AM
Prandelli showed some great flexibility dealing with the late injuries, and the players certainly seemed committed. Will be interesting to see how they deal with stronger pressing on Pirlo, but I'm guessing young Marco could take up more of the slack (hopefully he avoids the silly fouls that have been his trademark at PSG). And if they need more speed against the likes of CRC they can put Insigne on
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2338447, but why though? Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 11:01 AM
>(hopefully he avoids the silly fouls that have been his >trademark at PSG).
I precisely hope he gets a red card at some point, and if he doesn't, I hope he tries one of his trademark dribbles out of his own box and gets pick-pocketed.
I mean, they're good and pleasant to watch and Prandelli is a classy dude, but they're still Italians. so fuck them.
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2338460, See, Italia is the one Euro country I fucks with Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 11:53 AM
Not sure why, maybe it's the vague Italian lineage in my fam but I've never disliked them. Even after '06. I don't root for them or anything silly like that but I have no problem with them
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2338452, Can Italy ever really be a "dark horse?" Posted by Buck, Sun Jun-15-14 11:32 AM
I mean, isn't "unless completely in disarray that year, always in the conversation of likely winners" a more descriptive phrase?
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2338455, no. but i looked at their back 4 lineup yesterday like Posted by vik, Sun Jun-15-14 11:38 AM
well, ok, i know chiellini. wait, he's playing LB?
anybody have the story on this makeshift italian back 4?
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2338459, De Sciglio was hurt. Posted by Buck, Sun Jun-15-14 11:41 AM
Says he'll be back for the next match.
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2338453, Latin America rep'n so far ( no jinxo Honduras) Posted by calminvasion, Sun Jun-15-14 11:36 AM
They look a lil suspect in the back, hopefully they can hold on
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2338457, leggo honduras! Posted by vik, Sun Jun-15-14 11:40 AM
CONCACAF = no joke.
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2338508, you might have jinxed it - they look so soft right now Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 02:32 PM
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2338470, The way CIV used Drogba is what I thought the US could do with Posted by bentagain, Sun Jun-15-14 12:35 PM
Donovan
not a whole lot of action, and down 1 at the half
sub in your country's most beloved futbol player
and the team comes alive!!!
(no, I'm not comparing Drogba to Landon, just the situations)
I get the rationale behing JK's decision
but I do think he went a step too far with it (something about it feels like spite and not 100% based on soccer)
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2338472, Holy shit @ that whole sequence Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 12:50 PM
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2338477, so cruel Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 12:55 PM
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2338480, Ecuadoran dude needed to get a shot off, tho + GREAT advantage Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 12:57 PM
props to the Swiss dude for playing through the foul, too.
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2338473, I know the politics are fucked, but jesus christ this WC is amazing Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 12:52 PM
can we take 2018 from Russia and give it again to Brazil?
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2338481, Crazy to think Brazilians know how to host a soccer tourney. Posted by Buck, Sun Jun-15-14 01:02 PM
All my colonialist assumptions are blown. I don't know what to think anymore.
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2338485, Refs getting slightly better too, tho lack of video on PK decisions is flagrant Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 01:03 PM
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2338478, standing o for this swiss defender Posted by RetroName, Sun Jun-15-14 12:55 PM
saving his team + starting counterattack
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2338491, Looking forward to seeing my new RM boy, Griezmann Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Sun Jun-15-14 01:58 PM
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2338492, no anthems? what the fuck? I want a refund. Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 01:59 PM
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2338499, Over/under on yellow cards for Honduras? Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 02:14 PM
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2338500, France with the 1st yellow just paid 5 to 1 Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 02:15 PM
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2338501, Casey Keller sounds like a dentist on a Tuesday late afternoon. Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Sun Jun-15-14 02:20 PM
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2338502, Fack, I got nervous that might be a red for a second Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 02:27 PM
Fuck Palacios tho
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2338506, ^^ Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 02:29 PM
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2338507, The Honduran flopping is sad. They know they have no chance Posted by RandomFact, Sun Jun-15-14 02:29 PM
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2338513, sometimes life is fair Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 02:44 PM
>Fuck Palacios tho
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2338503, France is eventually gonna get one, and then, like, six. Posted by Buck, Sun Jun-15-14 02:27 PM
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2338505, sure feels that way Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 02:29 PM
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2338515, They are really hyped now. Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 02:46 PM
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2338504, 28' - France with the improbable 2:1 yellow card lead Posted by celery77, Sun Jun-15-14 02:28 PM
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2338512, The Hondurans deserve Oscars. Posted by SoWhat, Sun Jun-15-14 02:42 PM
Fantastic flopping.
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2338517, they're making this the least entertaining game we had so far Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 02:47 PM
flopping, fouling, parking the bus it might get better now that they're down 1...might
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2338514, Palacios didn't even make it to halftime lol Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Sun Jun-15-14 02:45 PM
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2338518, there you go with la Marseillaise Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 02:48 PM
GOOD JOB, FRENCH CROWD
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2338524, that's an own goal. Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 03:08 PM
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2338525, Ugh w/ this "goal-line technology." Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:09 PM
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2338527, Have you seen the Lloris side of the field since the 1st half? Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:15 PM
I haven't.
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2338530, they were not trying to attack at full strength Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 03:18 PM
now that they're down 1, they're just going to try to avoid a full blown spanking can't really blame them
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2338533, I wouldn't want that NED spanking/embarrasment either. Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:24 PM
I just need Costly or *somebody* to put them on the board.
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2338536, do you have Honduran ties? Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 03:29 PM
or just rooting for Central and South American countries in general?
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2338540, A little bit of the latter Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:33 PM
but I save a little hate for France for shyts and giggles.
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2338528, ay my spanish speakers Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 03:16 PM
the Univision guy keeps calling Benzema 'El Gato'...is that an official nickname for him in Spain/Latina America?
I like it.
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2338531, Mourinho called him that Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Sun Jun-15-14 03:19 PM
And it pissed him off.
I'm not watching Univision because they got Carlos Pavon doing color. That would just be cruel hearing GOOOL GOOOOL GOOOL in his presence.
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2338532, Looks like it (sez Twitter) Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:20 PM
https://twitter.com/search?q=el%20gato%20benzema&src=typd
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2338529, Griezmann deserves an assist pretty soon Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Sun Jun-15-14 03:17 PM
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2338535, BOOOOOOOO Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:27 PM
I had hope.
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2338538, good that Benzema gets to score early Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 03:32 PM
if we're going to do anything of significance, he's going to be part of it
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2338543, man, fuck this Honduran team as a staff, record label Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 03:42 PM
and motherfucking crew Garrido could have taken Blaise's knee out on that foul
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2338544, That Figueroa long-shot explains it all. Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:42 PM
Argentina, here we go!
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2338545, Honduras are EASILY the worst team I've watched so far Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 03:42 PM
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2338547, I'm mostly irritated by one-trick pony Figueroa. Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:45 PM
He got That One Goal years ago and been been trying to live that up ever since as a "specialist." Ugh.
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2338556, morale of the story Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 04:02 PM
Costa Rica is Costa Rica, Honduras is Honduras...and the FUCK YEAH CONCACAF talk was a massive cyse.
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2338553, What's the history on Bos-Herz? Posted by MiQL, Sun Jun-15-14 03:54 PM
Not really familiar w/ them at all.
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2338555, like all countries from former Yugoslavia, they got skills Posted by nighttripper, Sun Jun-15-14 04:01 PM
they may try to pack it in if stays tied late, but they will take their shots early they have Dzeko, who's probably in the top 15 strikers in the world, and Pjanic, who can be very creative and is a constant scoring thread on free kicks
so I'd say Argentina's got their hands full
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2338557, thin bench but yeah, they'll be more than up for it Posted by benny, Sun Jun-15-14 04:03 PM
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2338566, Cautious lineup by Sabella Posted by Rick Fox Jr, Sun Jun-15-14 04:26 PM
I waited all weekend for this? Was hoping they'd come out guns blazing in Rio. Palacios and Pipita aren't fit... Tevez sitting at home. Nice.
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2339221, Germany v Portugal. I can think of worse ways to start the week Posted by benny, Mon Jun-16-14 10:57 AM
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2339224, C'mon Deutschland! No spitzboob nonsense today Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:00 AM
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2339230, tremendous 'stache on Hugo Almeida Posted by benny, Mon Jun-16-14 11:06 AM
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2339244, That's a 50/50 penalty, but I'll take it Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:19 AM
Very nice finish by Muller. Team is looking very sharp with the combinations early, will be interesting to see how the heat affects them. Very glad to see Khedira fit.
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2339255, why are you rooting for ze Germans? Posted by benny, Mon Jun-16-14 11:29 AM
not trolling, just wondering
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2339269, Bc i own a BMW....lol nah, family ties to Germany Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:36 AM
My aunt and uncle lived there for 30+ years (uncle was a doctor at the army medical base), and I visited 4 times while growing up so that was my first influence.
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2339325, cool Posted by benny, Mon Jun-16-14 12:09 PM
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2339260, damn portugal defense getting that work. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jun-16-14 11:32 AM
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2339261, Germans are looking a whole lot stronger Posted by cantball, Mon Jun-16-14 11:32 AM
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Behold my works,ye mighty
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2339266, Yes Germany. Win the first two, take the last group match off Posted by bshelly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:34 AM
:)
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2339262, Hummels! Let's fucking go!! Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:33 AM
That zonal defending for Portugal really biting them...I just had Arsenal flashbacks.
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2339263, i wish i could find the post from 4 years ago Posted by hardware, Mon Jun-16-14 11:34 AM
where i predicted Germany to win the pot
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2339273, pepe is a fucking idiot. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jun-16-14 11:37 AM
good lord ronaldo is surrounded w/ nothing.
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2339274, Portugal going out like punks Posted by cantball, Mon Jun-16-14 11:37 AM
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Behold my works,ye mighty
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2339277, Portugal being Portugal Posted by hardware, Mon Jun-16-14 11:38 AM
like clockwork
5-0?
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2339286, They'll go up 4 and slow down Posted by cantball, Mon Jun-16-14 11:42 AM
GOOD! BLOW EM OUT ____________________
Behold my works,ye mighty
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2339278, Good grief, Pepe is truly a fucking idiot Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:38 AM
Why would you even think a pseudo head-butt is appropriate. Cotdamn
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2339321, The fuck was he even thinking? Posted by Marauder21, Mon Jun-16-14 12:06 PM
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2339326, He wasn't...which is far too often an accurate description of Pepe Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:09 PM
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2339289, Lol. Robson straight shut down Darke's theatrics about CR7 Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:43 AM
Almeida takes his sweet time and loses the ball with CR7 being 1v1 against Mertesacker.
ID: Look at Cristiano's reaction! SR: He has every right to give Almeida a go. 1v1 vs Mertesacker and Almeida takes far too long to attempt a pass. What an opportunity.
Love the no nonsense approach. Shut all these manufactured headlines down Stewart!
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2339384, That's not Ian Darke... Posted by Sleepy, Mon Jun-16-14 12:54 PM
I'm pretty sure that's Jon Champion.
I know, I know all Brits sound alike...
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2339290, Less likable: Honduras or Portugal? Posted by Buck, Mon Jun-16-14 11:44 AM
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2339294, Boniek-Garcia makes Honduras likeable Posted by hardware, Mon Jun-16-14 11:46 AM
http://goo.gl/r9SEUe
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2339293, run up the score germany. do us a solid. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jun-16-14 11:46 AM
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2339296, WOW! Germany is putting their foot in Portugal Posted by Case_One, Mon Jun-16-14 11:47 AM
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2339298, Eder looking very dangerous on corners. Need to get a body on him Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 11:48 AM
He is really bearing down and attacking on those corners...need to get leverage on him earlier.
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2339316, Deutschland Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Mon Jun-16-14 12:05 PM
>
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2339334, C'mon Mesut...gotta finish. That chance was far too easy though lol Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:14 PM
Huge gap between the cb and rb, zero pressure on the ball. Ozil times his run, in on net, needs to just blast it rather than passing it into the net...dunno if I've ever seen a dude who loves passing as much as him.
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2339337, LOL. Nani taking the ball off Coentrao's left foot Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:15 PM
Portugal is such a mess today
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2339353, Damn shame to see Coentrao go down. Posted by Buck, Mon Jun-16-14 12:29 PM
Hopefully he'll be back and fit on or around the 25th of June.
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2339354, Yeh, that's two starters for Portugal today. Both look like muscle pulls Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:32 PM
Almeida with the hammy and Coentrao with the groin
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2339355, Don't forget Pepe with the brain aneurysm! Posted by Buck, Mon Jun-16-14 12:33 PM
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2339356, Shit, hopefully Hummels is ok. I didnt see a twist at least Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:33 PM
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2339360, Wow, that's a clear penalty imo Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:36 PM
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2339363, All Mueller does is score goals...8 in 7 WC games is astonishing Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jun-16-14 12:40 PM
He kinda has that newborn giraffe gangly awkwardness to him but cotdamn does he know how to play and finish. Always puts himself in dangerous positions. To think he has at least 2 more WC's in him + the rest of this one.
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2339392, Just like Klose in the WC Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Jun-16-14 01:00 PM
ive loved the german system.
Whe they went through their mini reboot a couple cups ago (around 2004)--all roads led here. This style of play is the most entertaining/effective styles of play in all recent cups. Way better than that Tiki Taka Barca/Spanish shit imo.
The movement, overlapping from midfield and defense, and ability to switch defense to offense is great to see.
Im reminds of Spurs. But yea German consistent Dominance of WC soccer the past 20 years is rivaled only bt Brazil imo (though I could see arguments for Italy).
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2339458, For the record, what is this crossing of arms intro Posted by Sleepy, Mon Jun-16-14 02:03 PM
It looks so silly. I can't believe that's what they came up with as a "cool" introduction.
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2339459, For the record, what is this crossing of arms intro Posted by Sleepy, Mon Jun-16-14 02:03 PM
It looks so silly. I can't believe that's what they came up with as a "cool" introduction.
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2339462, I was gonna go for the Igbos off the strength Posted by deejboram, Mon Jun-16-14 02:09 PM
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2339469, can we do individual games for matchplay? Posted by deejboram, Mon Jun-16-14 02:23 PM
nobody dont wanna sift t hru a 500 post behemoth
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2339485, I agree. n/m Posted by Mr Teeth, Mon Jun-16-14 02:50 PM
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2339505, its kind of a waste of a post for most games Posted by hardware, Mon Jun-16-14 03:14 PM
like 3 people watching this one.
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2339542, 1 post / day is a good compromise Posted by benny, Mon Jun-16-14 04:02 PM
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2339498, Iran is now the worst cup team I've seen Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Jun-16-14 03:04 PM
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2339524, Honduras, though? Posted by Buck, Mon Jun-16-14 03:39 PM
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2339504, Nigeria tryna eff up my picks. Posted by Buck, Mon Jun-16-14 03:13 PM
Score you bastards.
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2339535, Nigeria were fucking shit... Posted by Mr Teeth, Mon Jun-16-14 03:52 PM
all that possession, set pieces and chances...not one goal!
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2339532, safe to say iran/nigeria the worst game of the cup. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jun-16-14 03:50 PM
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