>Karl is known for collapses and 1st round exits with talented
>squads

-Last years Nuggets were nothing more than an overachieving regular season team. Iggy was their best player.......muphuckin' Iggy! Ty Lawson was looking like an all-star under Karl & now looks mediocre under Shaw.

-1994 was Deke's coming out party & he absolutely took over the series.

-Then he had to coach a bunch of knuckle heads in Denver: Melo/AI/Jr/McGee/K-Mart & got bounced by the better team or EVENTUALLY champs...although he took them to the WCF when he had Bullips at latter end of his prime.

-He went to the Finals in 1996, was one game away from the Finals in 2001. Both times he lost to the team that had the league MVP.

-In the 90s he had to go up against Malone/Barkley/Hakeem.....when they were all league MVPs.

-He never coached an MVP, the best player in the league nor an all-time top 20ish player.

The fact of the matter is all the teams he left ended up toiling in mediocrity after he left.