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2322039, Mayweather & Miss Jackson broke up cause of abortion Posted by abstractionism, Thu May-01-14 09:00 AM
dang
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637361
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2322041, absolutely despicable way to drum up PR for a shit fight Posted by southphillyman, Thu May-01-14 09:03 AM
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2322043, agreed. Posted by veritas, Thu May-01-14 09:04 AM
just disgusting.
if she was pregnant by him and she got the abortion without his knowledge, he's got a right to be emotional about it, but handling it like this is so fucking gross.
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2322045, man, this guy is just the WORST Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu May-01-14 09:05 AM
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2322055, Wait, so she aborts babies behind his back, and yall Posted by kunta, Thu May-01-14 09:21 AM
are mad at the fact that he outed her for it? lmao you niggas need to remove them butt plugs
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2322057, money may is that you? thats nobodys business dude. Posted by Binlahab, Thu May-01-14 09:24 AM
seriously.
that should have remained between you, her & god
putting this out, as the rationale for the break up is just some egregious horrible shit. you wrong for this champ. youre better than this.
does it really matter?
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2322070, it's his business. and he's got a right to speak on it. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 09:58 AM
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2322078, would you post on facebook everything that goes on between Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 10:08 AM
you and your significant other?
would you want her too?
why or why not?
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2322097, Hey, they're not together and the show is all access Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:33 AM
And since when have to know celebrities to hid their personal life forever. Everybody goes on Oprah and tell all and cries eventually. . . . . . .
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2322112, oh you didn't answer the questions...cool. Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 10:41 AM
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2322116, Hey, I don't know what I's say in an ALL ACCESS interview. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:43 AM
I may tell how I really feel on a lot of issues, personal and otherwise.
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2322122, funny, i thought we were talking about what he posted to fb Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 10:47 AM
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2322137, OH. My Bad. I would never do that on FB. I just saw the GD Post Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 11:05 AM
That's awful for him to do. . . . . . .
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2322139, lmao...you coulda saved us 5 minutes if you just read what Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 11:10 AM
i asked you in the 1st place lol
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2322173, LOL.. Man I'm trying to work on these reports and Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 12:25 PM
keep my eyes on two different computers... LOL . . . . . .
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2322083, it's his right to speak on it..and it's other people's right to form Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu May-01-14 10:19 AM
an opinion over him speakin on it
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2322100, You are correct. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:34 AM
The only difference is that his opinion is the only one that matters on the subject of his personal life.
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2322091, actually - no he doesn't. that's her privileged medical information Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:25 AM
It's illegal so he has no 'business' publicizing her medical information.
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2322101, Uh actually he does. HIPPA does not apply to him. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:35 AM
And I'm sorry that your failed to know this fact.
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2322103, LOL just pathetic. Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:36 AM
stick to bathroom church quotes fam.
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2322111, Stop being a crappy Jail House Lawyer. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:40 AM
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2322183, LOFL. damn Posted by astralblak, Thu May-01-14 01:04 PM
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2322102, That's Not Illegal Posted by RexLongfellow, Thu May-01-14 10:35 AM
If they broke up because of an abortion that she hid from him, that's his business as well assuming it was his child. He can say that's why we broke up as much as he wants, he didn't break any law
It's TACTLESS, but not ILLEGAL
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2322109, You can speak on abortion and the situation in general. Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:38 AM
but you are not allowed to publicize private facts and post private medical information - even if it's true. This is akin to posting somebody's HIV status blood tests w/ out their permission. You have no legal right to do that.
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2322114, I guess you want to be ALL THE WAY Wrong on this matter. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:42 AM
IT IS NOW ILLEGAL FOR A FATHER TO DISCLOSE THAT THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN HAD AN ABORTION WITHOUT HIS KNOWING.
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2322118, you still don't get it. Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:43 AM
>IT IS NOW ILLEGAL FOR A FATHER TO DISCLOSE THAT THE MOTHER OF >HIS CHILDREN HAD AN ABORTION WITHOUT HIS KNOWING.
He posted privilege medical information with a photo of her uterus. That's not the same as saying "My girl had an abortion and I'm mad about it" -- You have no right to publicize someone's privileged medical information in this manner.
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2322120, Man You are obsessed with being WRONG Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:45 AM
He's has the right to talk about his dead children. Maybe you forget that part.
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2322124, LOL i'm dying. Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:47 AM
>He's has the right to talk about his dead children. Maybe you >forget that part.
lol which law are you referring to Casey?
Oh, the "right to post medical information of my alleged baby mama's abortion" law?
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2322133, So tell me when a father is unable to discuss the death Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:56 AM
of his unborn children? . . . . . .
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2322142, lol c'mon son. You didn't even know he posted it on FB Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 11:13 AM
you are extra emotional about this obviously because of your stance on abortion. Relax.
Last time I'm pointing this out to you:
It's (legally) ok to speak out against an abortion that his girl had - and to express disagreement w/ the decision -- it is *not* ok to post her privileged medical records on facebook so that the world can see the medical records/photos of her uterus/abortion. It's really quite simple. Stop being church emo.
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2322177, Sip your beer and sit down...LOL Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 12:42 PM
>you are extra emotional about this obviously >because of your stance on abortion. Relax. > >Last time I'm pointing this out to you: > >It's (legally) ok to speak out against an abortion >that his girl had - and to express disagreement w/ >the decision -- it is *not* ok to post her privileged >medical records on facebook so that the world can >see the medical records/photos of her uterus/abortion. It's >really >quite simple. Stop being church emo. > >--> > >www.realmdynamics.com > >We Activate Humans.
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2322193, Actually, I've worked in this arena. Vex is right. Get over it. Posted by WarriorPoet415, Thu May-01-14 01:25 PM
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2322203, What Law is it? Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 02:12 PM
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2322223, H.R. 3103 aka HIPAA aka Pub.L. 104-191aka HITECH Act.... Posted by WarriorPoet415, Thu May-01-14 03:27 PM
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2322228, *edit* Posted by nighttripper, Thu May-01-14 03:52 PM
HIPAA doesn't apply to everybody, just practitioners whoever gave Mayweather access to the images (if it's not his girl herself) may have broken the law but he can do whatever he wants
that said, he's a piece of shit for this for sure
*correction: he may not do whatever he wants, but I don't think HIPAA has anything to do with
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2322194, RE: Man You are obsessed with being WRONG Posted by murph71, Thu May-01-14 01:26 PM
Actually Case, he's right....
Floyd can be sued for this...Making a statement about it on Facebook is not against the law...
However, posting someone's medical history/ailment/paperwork without their consent will get u in some serious trouble....
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2322204, I wasn't talking bout the FB Post. I was talking about his interview. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 02:13 PM
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2322205, lmao nigga you the only one talking bout some damn interview Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 02:16 PM
you owe everyone in here an apology and 30 minutes
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2322058, mighty convenient time to 'out her' Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 09:30 AM
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2322065, you think people are going to watch fights based on this? Posted by realityrap, Thu May-01-14 09:49 AM
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2322068, Floyd saw Donald Sterling's headlines above his and got petty Posted by veritas, Thu May-01-14 09:57 AM
that's all this shit is.
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2322075, there will be people who didn't know he was fighting that Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 10:07 AM
now might know.
especially in this social media world???
it can def lead to more attention and yes, that would lead to more buys.
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2322143, thats one hell of a reach Posted by realityrap, Thu May-01-14 11:15 AM
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2322149, whats the reach? Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 11:21 AM
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2322175, RE: whats the reach? Posted by realityrap, Thu May-01-14 12:35 PM
To say that people are gonna go from not knowing that Floyd was fighting, to actually buying the ppv for 70. Let's be honest, that isn't happening.
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2322181, Not that far of a reach actually, that people are now aware that he's Posted by bentagain, Thu May-01-14 12:56 PM
fighting this weekend
at the Pac fight, obviously amongst a group of fight fans
this fight came up
and for the life of us, we couldn't think of who he was fighting
Khan, no I know that wasn't confirmed
Maravilla, no I know that was just proposed
oh, I got it, the guy that knocked out Ortiz and just beat Broner
what's his name...Maidana!
so yeah, now more sports fans are aware that he's fighting on saturday
doesn't mean they're gonna buy
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2322182, You are right, but here was my point: Posted by realityrap, Thu May-01-14 01:00 PM
>doesn't mean they're gonna buy
most likely they won't
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2322200, Is there even a way to quatify your point? Are there straw polls for Posted by bentagain, Thu May-01-14 01:47 PM
PPV buys?
Hello sir, you recently purchased the Mayweather/Maidana PPV, could you tell us the reason...
Yeah, I wanted to see Floyd's ProLife ass get beat to a pulp?
c'mon, you know this is free publicity as has already been stated
continue on being intentionally obtuse.
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2322271, If people are just learning about the fight, they are not buying the fight. Posted by realityrap, Thu May-01-14 06:51 PM
That is obviously not the demographic of people who buy ppv fights.
"Oh...OH! There's a fight Saturday?! lemme drop 70 on that"
nah. That's obvious.
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2322184, I didn't say exactly that people didn't know he was fighting would now Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 01:04 PM
buy....even though that could very well happen.
All i'm specifically saying is that more buzz equals more buys. If this creates buzz, it will create more buys, whether the buyer loves or hates pac.
Same reason why musicians, actors etc will gladly take negative press when they have an album, movie etc coming out. Its free advertising.
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2322060, he didn't even say it was behind his back Posted by pretentious username, Thu May-01-14 09:37 AM
but even if it was, so what? don't post that on FB.
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2322088, nah - FB posting personal, sensitive medical info is not only wrong Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:23 AM
it's illegal.
Indefensible.
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2322107, Whats' Illegal? He was the father of those unborn kids Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:36 AM
He can talk about it all he want.
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2322113, "Publication of Private Facts" - well known legal doctrine Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:41 AM
"The legal claim known as "publication of private facts" is a species of invasion of privacy. You commit this kind of invasion of privacy by publishing private facts about an individual, the publication of which would be offensive to a reasonable person. This legal claim can only be successful, however, if the facts in question are not legitimately newsworthy. So, for instance, if you disclose the fact that your neighbor has an embarrassing health condition, you might be liable for publication of private facts. If, however, this medical condition is particularly relevant to some topic of public interest -- say, your neighbor's fitness to serve in public office, a court might find that your publication is lawful. Determining what facts are of legitimate public concern is often difficult to determine, so you may want to get permission before disclosing potentially embarrassing information about an individual you interview or write about. If your work sometimes involves this kind of publication, then you should see the Publication of Private Facts section for further details."
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2322119, HE was the FATHER or did you over look that in Law School Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:44 AM
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2322121, That was actually never established. Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:46 AM
In fact, there were rumors that he was not the father and that's the reason she had the abortion in the first place. No DNA test was ever produced.
So, unsurprisingly, you're wrong again.
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2322127, Don't bee a Doofus and quot rumors to validate your point Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:49 AM
>In fact, there were rumors that >he was not the father and that's >the reason she had the abortion >in the first place. No DNA test >was ever produced. > >So, unsurprisingly, you're wrong again.
^^^^ From the guy who's using speculation to validate his opinion. Just admit that you COULD be wrong, sine you're trying to validate that your COULD be right...LOL
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2322129, lol I'd love to see you argue this in a court of law. Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:52 AM
"but but abortion is wrong and he has a right to speak on it because he is the FATHER even though that was never established and thus, my client can post ALL of her medical info on Facebook BECAUSE ABORTION IS EVIL!"
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2322135, Just make sure you wear a nice tie to court.. Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 11:04 AM
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2322132, .... Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 10:54 AM
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2322141, On second thought Posting some things on FB is just dirty Posted by Case_One, Thu May-01-14 11:11 AM
Not illegal.
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2322144, RE: On second thought Posting some things on FB is just dirty Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 11:16 AM
>Not illegal.
It is illegal, which is why he promptly took it down after one of his legal cronies was probably like "you just possibly cost yourself even more $$ in court by letting P-Reala corky thatcher out on Facebook"
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2322160, it's probably not criminal but it's probably an actionable tort Posted by veritas, Thu May-01-14 11:40 AM
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2322165, RE: it's probably not criminal but it's probably an actionable tort Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 11:47 AM
Let's see.
Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress? Leaking privileged medical info to millions of people on social media? Invading the most private place one can imagine (the uterus w/ photos/name/medical technique used) for the world to see? Zero argument that it's "newsworthy" and thus permissible because of the public's interest to know?
Yea - I'd say that's "probably actionable"
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2322073, LOL @ Homo sapiens Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu May-01-14 10:01 AM
What a pathetic species
Good grief
He'll still whoop Manny's ass, tho
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2322074, Did he think this would work out in his favor? Posted by Marauder21, Thu May-01-14 10:02 AM
And if so, how?
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2322080, more buzz is all he wants Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 10:09 AM
if it generates buzz than it works out great for him.
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2322090, Yup Posted by Lightfoot, Thu May-01-14 10:25 AM
I think his controversies have probably improved his bottom line in pretty much every instance.
There's no commissioner who will fine or suspend him for extracurricular shit like this. He already doesn't have (or rely on) ad revenues to be the richest athlete in the world. His revenues are directly tied to PPV sales, and it seems like the notoriety = sales formula has yet to fail him.
So as long as decency just isn't that important to him, what are his disincentives? Maybe there's an argument related to long-term profitability, but I'm not sure it's a strong one.
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2322115, yup, he already gets buys on the sole reason that people Posted by Cenario, Thu May-01-14 10:43 AM
want to see him lose...something like this would only fuel that.
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2322094, When you have 1,000 yes-men on your team....yes Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 10:28 AM
Floyd's a smart, good person - I truly believe that in the time I've spoken w/ him and what I've heard about him -- but it still remains that he's a child in some ways and hasn't developed into manhood - but considering his background and how he grew up, it's hard to condemn from the comfort of the keyboard.
He needs wise advisers and unfortunately he has none. He only has people singularly focused on business around him.
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2322157, RE: When you have 1,000 yes-men on your team....yes Posted by michaelo, Thu May-01-14 11:37 AM
Vex.....i can appreciate your point. but despite our various upbringings and circumstances, we all reach an age/stage where we "should" become completely accountable for our actions.
>Floyd's a smart, good person - I truly believe that >in the time I've spoken w/ him and what I've heard >about him -- but it still remains that he's a child >in some ways and hasn't developed into manhood - but >considering his background and how he grew up, it's >hard to condemn from the comfort of the keyboard. > >He needs wise advisers and unfortunately he has none. >He only has people singularly focused on business around him.
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2322126, the guy who went to jail for putting hands on his baby mama shouldnt Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu May-01-14 10:49 AM
stand in moral judgement of the women in his life..
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2322146, ...so you're saying Ms Jackson is single? NOTED Posted by bentagain, Thu May-01-14 11:16 AM
Floyd wins at alot of things
relationships with women doesn't seem to be one of them
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2322168, if youre pro-life then be pro-life Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Thu May-01-14 11:59 AM
if thats what the man believes in he should speak on it. fuck all the legalities im very pro-choice and i wouldnt want ppl telling me to shut up about certain issues
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2322185, Floyd ain't... Posted by murph71, Thu May-01-14 01:04 PM
a good dude....Hell, dude has been on that scumbag level for a minute...I thought this has already been covered...
Oh yeah...He also thinks Donald Sterling is a "great guy"...
I will continue to look at Floyd apologists and fans with a dead side-eye....
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2322189, Floyd was posting pics of her on IG both before/after plastic surgery Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 01:14 PM
Talking about he wants his money back.
C'mom fam. Not like this.
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2322202, that #WCW pic had me cracking up Posted by southphillyman, Thu May-01-14 01:57 PM
cause damn near all this selfie queens would be ethered if any of us posted their just woke up pics dude is clearly hurt though. he seems to have a serious issue with women moving on from him, smh
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2322216, Madaina should bring ol' girl to the fight like bronner did to Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu May-01-14 03:12 PM
paulie's side chick....lolol..
tell floyd she rollin with Madaina now fool...lol..
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2322217, I'd be shocked if this was anything more than pure publicity stunt Posted by Lightfoot, Thu May-01-14 03:12 PM
I'm no more in Floyd's head than the next man, but is there more than one good explanation for why he did what he did *this week*? He's not a dummy. Look at what he did with one Facebook post:
Boxing fans are asking if this might make his fight more intriguing
Media members and the general public are talking about him way more.
How often does OKP cumulatively dedicate like 250 posts to a boxer?
Today his name is in the mouths of millions of people who would otherwise not be talking about him, and many of them have now thought about his upcoming fight as a byproduct of all the sensational stuff.
No way that's incidental. I think it's reasonable to assume that any arguments regarding Floyd's morality, legality, shamelessness, indecency, and/or emotional well-being--however well-conceived--should be understood to be a dance for a puppet master.
Not to say that dancing can't be fun.
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2322227, I think that's the very favorable way to look at it for Floyd Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 03:40 PM
I think equally (if not more) plausible is that this is Floyd spiraling a bit out of control w/ his emotions and using that to try to magnify the attention surrounding him for this fight, something which he has become accustomed to and craves.
But to me this degree of wild-out is indicative of some legitimate inter-personal issues that are left unresolved in his personal life.
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2322243, Would it matter if the fetuses posted weren't Floyd's??!?!? Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Thu May-01-14 04:29 PM
Legal eagles???!
Seriously...
What if he was under the impression she was pregnant for him...but he knows that she isn't
...and she is trying to maintain the lie???
Does that mean anything? Is it still actionable?
Like say for instance she tried to leverage son in an argument or something and threw that paperwork in his face or he found it while catching her in a lie about it knowing that those kids aren't his???
I'm really interested to know if there is some way other than her refusing to press charges that he has a defense against this...
That shit is crazy!!!!
"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."
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2322250, Really the one defense he could have is that she consented Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 04:39 PM
to the publication of the private facts of her abortion. Another defense would be that the disclosure of her abortion was newsworthy and there was a significant public interest/utility in knowing it - which of course there isn't.
She could certainly press charges and he'd likely have to settle for a considerable amount as it's really an egregious & illegal act of callous.
The speculation about whether the baby/twins were his is immaterial because there is no way to know for certain whether he actually was the father.
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2322260, Would it be newsworthy if the children weren't his... Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Thu May-01-14 05:15 PM
...and she "disclosed" the abortion to somehow leverage him?
I mean it's terrible all around.....
No one emerges from that smelling sweet...
I could only imagine what a judge hearing this would be like....
"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."
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2322262, RE: Would it be newsworthy if the children weren't his... Posted by Vex_id, Thu May-01-14 05:25 PM
>...and she "disclosed" the abortion to somehow leverage him?
Since there's no way to determine the DNA of the underdeveloped fetus(es) - no. And "newsworthy" as a legal term refers to something that the public has a legitimate interest to know - such as whether a govt. official is lying or committing fraud/criminal acts -- newsworthy (as a legal term of art) does not mean something that simply lights up the social media sphere.
>I mean it's terrible all around..... > >No one emerges from that smelling sweet... > >I could only imagine what a judge hearing this would be >like....
Wouldn't be good for Floyd. The key here is the sensitive nature of the private medical records and the invasion of her privacy. Even if she gave Floyd the medical records - he still has no right to publicize those records because they are still privileged - and she only consented to him seeing them, not the world at large.
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2322450, That is terrible man....Wow!!!! Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Fri May-02-14 08:27 AM
There's just some hits you have to take.
Pride is a motherfucker....
Wow... not cool...
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2322269, Smh. Despicable Posted by LA2Philly, Thu May-01-14 06:47 PM
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2322281, not a good way to deal with it Posted by Kungset, Thu May-01-14 07:18 PM
but my god i don't know what i would do if i found out a woman aborted twins i was the father of... that's gotta hurt tremendously
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