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2314106, Pacers rest all starters vs. Bucks
Posted by FILF, Wed Apr-09-14 02:13 PM
I guess wet-behind-the-ears Vogel FINALLY learned that "we want the #1 seed by all mean necessary" narrative doesn't come w/o its detractors.
2314114, the #1 seed has real value.
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Apr-09-14 02:47 PM
This does not bode well for their team purpose/mantra.
You start the season by properly setting out a goal
for the top seed, then you backtrack at the very end
of the season with that goal within a .5 game grasp.

I truly believe home-court advantage determined that
IND-MIA series last year, and it may very well determine
the victor again this year.

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2314222, their insistence on getting the #1 or bust reminded me of
Posted by J_Stew, Wed Apr-09-14 06:46 PM
the Redskins "super bowl or the season is a failure" talk before last season. at least the pacers weren't delusional though. any goal other than maximizing your ability and playing as well as possible is silly imo.
2314235, RE: their insistence on getting the #1 or bust reminded me of
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Apr-09-14 07:27 PM
>the Redskins "super bowl or the season is a failure" talk
>before last season. at least the pacers weren't delusional
>though. any goal other than maximizing your ability and
>playing as well as possible is silly imo.

Yea I think the Pacers goal was/is very reachable. I also
liked the edge they had during most of the season. They
are focused on Miami, and they play well against Miami. That's
who they will likely face so nothing gets their engine rev'd up
like the prospect of a Miami series -- and they want game 7
to be in Indiana, specifically because of Miami. I mean they
have to say something at this point to deflect attention
away from their season's goal, so as to not damage the psyche
going into the playoffs in the event they don't get the top seed.

Crazy for anyone to think it's not important, though.

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2314121, The ship be sinkin
Posted by bshelly, Wed Apr-09-14 02:57 PM
2314128, lol @ all the overreacting
Posted by Cenario, Wed Apr-09-14 03:09 PM
Guys have specifically asked for rest...if you gonna rest hibbs and PG, why not give them all a rest? What better game then milwaukee. You still expect them to win don't you?

And they got Miami and OKC on the horizon.

2314230, Nope!.....that's never been Vogel's mantra
Posted by FILF, Wed Apr-09-14 07:14 PM
The Pacers have been known to wear out their starters no matter the score let alone with a chance to still secure home court but now the ship is sinking dude is throwing the kitchen sink & anything he could get his hands on to put out the fire.
2314320, wear them out? They've got a young roster free of any injuries
Posted by Cenario, Thu Apr-10-14 08:16 AM
yet no player is in the top 10 in mpg. They've hit a bad stretch, you'd prefer him not to try something different?
2314467, resting starter is unheard of for Vogel.
Posted by FILF, Thu Apr-10-14 02:23 PM
>yet no player is in the top 10 in mpg. They've hit a bad
>stretch, you'd prefer him not to try something different?
How are you going to go from never resting starter to benching all the starters & call that a customary move. If they are serious about the # seed, rest 1 or 2 at a time then KIM...I know it just one game but they could have lost the Bucks game easily.
2314198, Its the Bucks
Posted by cantball, Wed Apr-09-14 05:32 PM

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2314231, ...it's the Pacers bench
Posted by FILF, Wed Apr-09-14 07:15 PM
2314321, Pacer bench better obviously.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Apr-10-14 08:16 AM
2314470, lol @ obviously
Posted by FILF, Thu Apr-10-14 02:25 PM
They actually played out of their minds
2314226, I know everyone wants homecourt but the #1 seed comes with
Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Apr-09-14 07:12 PM
the winner of the Bulls/Nets series in the 2nd round.. If I was Miami I might have considered the #2 seed because they can still beat Indy w/o home court.

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2314233, I'm talking about Indy ditching the chase for the #1 seed
Posted by FILF, Wed Apr-09-14 07:17 PM
Miami couldn't careless as they are more concerned w/ Wade's healthy than seedings
2314234, RE: I know everyone wants homecourt but the #1 seed comes with
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Apr-09-14 07:25 PM
>the winner of the Bulls/Nets series in the 2nd round.. If I
>was Miami I might have considered the #2 seed because they can
>still beat Indy w/o home court.

I would think both teams would prefer having home-court advantage
against each other - even if they have to face the winner of
the bulls/nets. But it would be interesting to see if there
are inside discussions to strategically get the #2 seed. Doubt it, though.


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2314252, Copeland fucked around & earned himself a spot in the rotation
Posted by FILF, Wed Apr-09-14 09:34 PM
Vogel is an idiot for not giving him a chance.
2314254, Bucks REALLY tried to win
Posted by cantball, Wed Apr-09-14 09:39 PM
Thats so god damned pathetic
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2314257, Clips/ OKC already getting good
Posted by BlassFemur, Wed Apr-09-14 09:57 PM
Pacers lucky Memphis helped them tonight.
2314325, team can rest after sweeping atlanta round 1, this was an odd move
Posted by rjc27, Thu Apr-10-14 08:44 AM
like vex said above... if your public statement all year is 1 seed or bust, why throw in the towel on that with a week left? Makes no sense... Stan Van Gundy hit it on the head... Vogel was afraid this soft as team would hit rock bottom if they lost to the bucks
2314333, i don't think they threw it in tho. Guys asked for a rest.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Apr-10-14 08:55 AM
If you are going to give it to them, which game would you choose?

Resting them against OKC or Miami makes a bigger statement imo.

what Stan said was an interesting take tho.
2314471, Let's not act like there wasn't anything to it besides "resting" starters
Posted by FILF, Thu Apr-10-14 02:27 PM
2314474, i'm really not sure what the big to do is...like what's your point?
Posted by Cenario, Thu Apr-10-14 02:41 PM
lol.

Indy was struggling badly, the guys were tired, miami, okc and the playoffs are right around the corner. Vogel gave his guys a rest against the worst team in the league. Maybe it works in the end, maybe it doesn't, but it beats sitting there and doing nothing.