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Topic subjectCollege Hoops Sunday: Wisconsin/Michigan and Nova/Creighton.
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2299517, College Hoops Sunday: Wisconsin/Michigan and Nova/Creighton.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Feb-16-14 12:01 PM
For TJT, a vitally important Georgetown/St. John's game as well.
2299518, we are built to crush Lavin's St John's
Posted by thejerseytornado, Sun Feb-16-14 12:03 PM
aggressive man-to-man defense and a penchant for long 2s? a dream combo for the hoyas.

now that i've said that, we'll get blown out. still, trending up. right now, hoyas look like they could be the 12 seed a 5 doesn't want. or we'd flame out again. i have no idea with this year's team. they confound me.


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2299559, wait... pat knight was coaching lamar?
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sun Feb-16-14 04:51 PM
he got fired today. they were like 3-20 lol
i thought he quit or got fired already. maybe that was from TT.
anyway... he sorry
2299561, SMU: went from Cinderella story to bubble. Shout out to Temple.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Feb-16-14 04:53 PM
2299564, Down goes #9 Michigan State at home
Posted by DeepAztheRoot, Sun Feb-16-14 05:13 PM
Nebraska and Creighton both make the tourney, don't know how the state will react? been a long time comin'

Nebraska basketball still has a long ways to go and a history of being Charlie Brown racing after Lucy holding the ball though to get overly excited

Terran Pettaway might be the face of the Big Ten next year though, who the hell thought that would ever happen?
2299567, I still think the Huskers have to win out to definitely make the tourney.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Feb-16-14 05:24 PM
But winning out, giving them another win over an RPI Top 25 team in Wisconsin? Yeah, they'd definitely be on the right side of the bubble.

Losing to any team other than Wisky, they're definitely out.

Still, Tim Miles for Big Ten Coach of the Year.
2299572, NIT was the big goal at the beginning of the year
Posted by DeepAztheRoot, Sun Feb-16-14 05:40 PM
everything else above that was gravy

still, at a school with zero basketball tradition....if you have the best facilities in the country, you need some hope so that you have a a chance to recruit talent to those said facilities

Terran Pettaway might be that guy
2299582, what do you feel like the general vibe of the program is?
Posted by Nodima, Sun Feb-16-14 07:03 PM
living in Omaha, the conversation's still entirely focused on the Bluejays. I feel like I've been noticing Nebraska's basketball team coming up a lot since league play started but I didn't realize until earlier last week just how interesting their season's been.


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2299725, trending upwards
Posted by DeepAztheRoot, Mon Feb-17-14 09:25 AM
but it's like Indiana or Duke football up until this past year.....fans have had the rug pulled out from under them many times before it's hard to have expectations over a mini-run

THey turn around and dump a game to Northwestern or Penn State again and that game doesn't matter

still much in wait-and-see-mode

ticket prices on Stub Hub probably went up quite a bit though
2299772, yeah I was pretty wrapped up during the Suh/Dagunduro years
Posted by Nodima, Mon Feb-17-14 12:39 PM
only for that to go nowhere.



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2299769, oh btw,... thanks!
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2299580, Doug McDermott is embarrassing all-sized arms on Nova right now
Posted by Marauder21, Sun Feb-16-14 06:06 PM
2299590, So ridiculous. Pure domination.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Feb-16-14 07:25 PM
2299721, Is Creighton just a horrible matchup for Nova? Or is the #6 team a fraud
Posted by DeepAztheRoot, Mon Feb-17-14 09:21 AM
in a less than advertised Big East this year

Jay Wright seems to know what he is doing but the elder McDermott and his players have run circles around him

neither game was remotely close
2299767, They're vulnerable from the perimeter, no question.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Feb-17-14 12:05 PM
Creighton and Cuse abused them from 3. That's how Butler stayed in that OT game too. They also just don't really have the offensive firepower to stay in a game when a team gets hot on them. And Creighton is the second best offense in the country in terms of efficiency.

I think it has more to do with Creighton being better than people think. Unless you have a guy that can slow McDermott 1-on-1 (which very few exist), you'll have to outscore them, or at worst play stellar perimeter D and force them to drive and create. I actually thought Nova did a decent job of the latter yesterday (I doubt Creighton even took 20 3 attempts, they were forced into looking back door or dribble-drive much of the game)... but they got demoralized by McDermott early and never really tried to get back into it. McDermott has been on a Durant-esque roll lately. There were a number of plays in which he was defended very very well... but the shots still went in. He also doesn't demand the ball like most stars, which really hurts how you defend them; he has no problem simply being the distraction and making defenders cheat toward him (I'd kill to play with a guy like that-- you get open jumpers all game).

The big question I have re: Villanova is their toughness, which is odd considering how strong they've been in the Big East and their resume, which includes neutral court wins against Kansas and Iowa. I have no idea why you don't simply Gilooly McDermott and company, show them the penalty for trying to take it to the rack. Nova simply gave up defending the drive. They knew they were going to lose and quit. Really odd.
2300209, Isn't #1 Duke?
Posted by DeepAztheRoot, Tue Feb-18-14 07:45 PM
Anyway, if McDermott is that hot in first half though don't you switch up your strategy?

I'd still make Wragge, Dingman or someone else beat you if he is abusing you 1 on 1

I hope they meet again in the Big East tourney, 'Nova's defensive efficiency numbers look good enough to make at least one of them a game for at least a half, I'm not asking for much
2300380, Easier said than done.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Feb-19-14 12:10 PM
As I said on this week's 2.1 Seconds to Madness podcast (plug!), I thought Nova actually WAS good about defending McDermott this go around. Thing is he's in such a zone right now that all he needs is the smallest fraction of separation for it to go in. They run him around so many screens that he's bound to get the ball in his hands, and when he wants it, he gets it. He got one or two off with some space early, but those second half baskets he made had hands all in his face.

He's just in a Durant-like zone right now. When he wants it, he gets it.

And yes, the most efficient offense is Duke's, lol.
2299604, thanks for showing up to the game, hoyas!
Posted by thejerseytornado, Sun Feb-16-14 08:10 PM
fucking hell. just throwing it away after a great run.

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2299609, RE: thanks for showing up to the game, hoyas!
Posted by clayinhishands, Sun Feb-16-14 08:23 PM
Go Johnnies!!
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2299637, goddam, we're getting jobbed by the refs
Posted by thejerseytornado, Sun Feb-16-14 09:02 PM
shame after making it a game. terrible effort early and then jobbed by the refs all game. fucking a.

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