West:

Kevin Love
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
Kobe Bryant
Steph Curry

East:

Carmelo Anthony
Lebron James
Paul George
Dwyane Wade
Kyrie Irving

So, no center in the east was worth the votes? How did that happen? A little surprising to see Love over Dwight, but not crazy. Obviously Kobe won't play, and I'd be surprised if Wade played more than a few minutes. The rest of the selections should be interesting.

>West:
>
>Kevin Love
>Blake Griffin
>Kevin Durant
>Kobe Bryant
>Steph Curry
>
>East:
>
>Carmelo Anthony
>Lebron James
>Paul George
>Dwyane Wade
>Kyrie Irving
>
>So, no center in the east was worth the votes? How did that
>happen?
There's no center in the East as popular as those starters. I'd be shocked if Hibbert didn't at least get on the reserves though

A little surprising to see Love over Dwight, but not
>crazy. Obviously Kobe won't play, and I'd be surprised if Wade
>played more than a few minutes. The rest of the selections
>should be interesting.
Very much so...and I'm assuming Kobe's starting spot goes to Harden
Good for PG though, and Lance should definitely either make the squad or be the frontrunner for 6MOTY

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your whole diatribe and personal attack
in that other post was because George
is a "F" and Wade is a "G" - but you failed
to realize that the all-star game is now
position-less, so it's irrelevant if George
was a 'F' on the ballot versus a 'G.'

Really, your whole fake b-ball IQ on here
is hilarious. All I see you do is try to
personally attack casual sports fan yet
I am yet to hear any piece of original insightful
analysis from you.

L.

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It's not 'positonless' is 2 x G's and 3 x F/C's.

George was a F/C.

The ballot is divided into backcourt and frontcourt...2 backcourt players are selected and 3 frontcourt players are selected. Wade was a backcourt player on the ballot and George was a frontcourt, therefore there's no overlap. That's exactly what Cenario said...it's positionless in the sense that there are no specific positions that have to be filled but players are still categorized into 2 categories.

Good grief, you have no idea what you're talking about.

dude can't just admit he was mistaken and let it go. shit wasn't even that big a deal.



>The ballot is divided into backcourt and frontcourt...2
>backcourt players are selected and 3 frontcourt players are
>selected. Wade was a backcourt player on the ballot and George
>was a frontcourt, therefore there's no overlap. That's exactly
>what Cenario said...it's positionless in the sense that there
>are no specific positions that have to be filled but players
>are still categorized into 2 categories.
>
>Good grief, you have no idea what you're talking about.

For ex, I consider myself a casual boxing fan, but you wont see me in boxing posts arguing things that I didnt take 2 seconds to research. A simple google search woulda told you the all star breakdown.

Can I just have my apology please?

>For ex, I consider myself a casual boxing fan, but you wont
>see me in boxing posts arguing things that I didnt take 2
>seconds to research. A simple google search woulda told you
>the all star breakdown.
>
>Can I just have my apology please?

Dude called me a 50 year old gay irishman or something and claimed I'm the one with the personal attacks. Lol

Now I remember hearing that but I guess I'm just used to there being at least a center who will get enough votes to get in.

"frontcourt" spots

that's crazy.

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I figure Harden gets slotted in for Kobe whenever the game happens.

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I've traveled far and wide through many different times...

Kyrie eating off last year's performances. He'll be more fun to watch than Wall.

>Kyrie eating off last year's performances. He'll be more fun
>to watch than Wall.


That Uncle Drew campaign helps....

But he'll get in, obviously. So will Wall.

Suprised George got more votes than Melo....definitely deserving but still surprised Melo didnt even crack a mil

(I totally forgot)

I figured maybe you thought Paul was good enough before the injury to keep the fans motivated to vote for him or something along those lines.

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http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489510

CTRL+F: Mirza Teletovic....yeah he was matched up against Dirk.

durant
love
griffin
paul
curry

james
george
noah
lowry
wall

I figured he'd make the team this year but I wasn't sure he had enough shine to get voted into the starting line-up. I think he probably benefited by the injury to Paul and maybe somewhat from the Kobe injury.

Props to them, it worked very well.

from @BenGolliver--

Wesley Matthews on whether this was statement game for LaMarcus Aldridge: "I think his statement is coming on Saturday (vs. Timberwolves)."

looking forward to it...

>looking forward to it..

me too...I got them both on my survivor squad!!!!! lol

I had Bledsoe and Paul in the west. Didn't even bother with the east.


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Same as it ever was!

If injuries aren't a factor Kyrie certainly isn't starting over Rose or Rondo.

no centers. Understandable thpo

You might see some in the final 6 mins of a close AS game but that's about it.

I kinda feel like a non-perimeter player needs to be starting. But who cares it's just a stupid game anyway.

And the w zquad has zero centers as well

Looking at the teams, it's actually a great matchup...Lebron and Melo can easily play PF, and PG can handle anyone else...with Blake and Love starting that should be intriguing against Lebron and Carmelo

PG vs. Durant...intriguing matchup

If Wade had the legs, seeing him against Harden would be great...and Steph vs. Kyrie is a highlight waiting to happen

Looking over the head to head matchups, the centerless starters look VERY intriguing

It does make me pine for the old days where Shaq, Ewing and Mourning were going up against Olajuwon, Robinson and Mutombo in the ASG's, but these are the times

In: Damien Lillard, Joakim Noah, Tony Parker, Paul Millsap, Roy Hibbert, CP3, D12, Lamarcus Aldridge, James Harden, Dirk Nowitzki, Demar Derozen, Chris Bosh, Joe Johnson

Out: Goran Dragic, David Lee, Lance Stephenson, Tim Duncan

Jacket: John Wall

Derozan deserves it. He's been our best and most consistent player all year! Lowry has come on really strong since the Gay trade and is finally playing like we had all expected from him and maybe even better. I think Lowry is more deserving than Irving and JJ but I don't think they got it wrong at all with Derozan.

He's improved year after year.

but they're both more deserving than johnson and irving, as is afflalo.

east backcourt is all fucked up, lolz.

5th in PER, 7th in WS/48.

20 & 10.

1st in blocks.

good grief.

He shouldn't even need to be considered as someone's replacement...dude's been balling

http://bkref.com/tiny/5gSgR

the dude's 20, btw.

Plus the game is being held at Brow's house but Jamal has been the best 6th man in the association on the 4th seed in the West & if CP3 ain't playing they might as well reward JCrossover for holding the fort. I bet CP is doing some lobbying on his part if he isn't suiting up.

AD and Boogie got robbed. Hopefully they get in as replacements for cp3 and kobe. But I bet Boog still get left off for Dragic tho,which wouldn't be a tragedy, but Dirk could have sat this one out.

Fuck all that shit. JJ ain't deserve it neither. Lowry got robbed. Again.

Anyone thinking Lance got robbed is a moron.

Lance and JJ are both undeserving IMO.

I like Lance as a player just don't think he is all star status. People just hype over the Pacers record.

>People just hype over the Pacers record.

He has one of the best all around lines, playing
2-guard, handling the ball more than he should,
defending the best wing on the other team, on one of
the 3 or 4 best teams in the league.

That's infinitely more impressive than bigger numbers
on terrible teams.

And I don't necessarily think he deserved it, but that
point you made is silly

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Doesnt make sense to me. All star is more about individual accomplishments than team.

Now would Lance average more points if he traded places with Afflalo? Probably. But thats not the way it is.

he's averaging 20 points a game on the 2nd worst team in the league. No way he makes an all star team like that, much less his 1st all star team.

http://tinyurl.com/mhqycr7

For another guard

they put the wrong damn guards in. irving, johnson and derozan all could have stayed home. that ain't got shit to do with jo tho. don't put that on him. he's been carrying that team and he's certainly been one of the best 3 or 4 bigs in the east.

They got Kyrie & Wall with Derozan JJ and Wade who will probably play limited minutes. That backcourt sucks. The whole reserve squad sucks,maybe the worst ever.

Anywho, Lowry and Afflalo should have made it on there, def at the expense of JJ and possibly Derozan or Noah. Nothing against Noah,Id rather see him than Hibbert but whatever.

that be picking some bullshit teams.

I guess Timmay is going to keep shitting on Dirk just like their most recent match-up>>> http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201401080SAS.html

Complete bullshit

.....while Big Al is a proverbial good player on a bad team dude who plays no D. If the Bobcats were a higher seed then I could see the coaches selecting him but 8th seed in the Leastern conference isn't gong to do it.

>.....while Big Al is a proverbial good player on a bad team
>dude who plays no D. If the Bobcats were a higher seed then I
>could see the coaches selecting him but 8th seed in the
>Leastern conference isn't gong to do it.

Lol

This is your argument?

Big Al started the season hurt....sat out for 9 games (so far)...and while no one will deny that he has been beasting lately...he's arguably the 2nd best player on his team. I personally think he's ahead of Kyrie...but a case can be made either way.

Jo started the season off with hopes of a title....then he lost D Rose for the season early...and afterwards Luol Deng was traded away. Thru it all, he has been the heart and soul of his team. HE IS the Bulls' identity. He impacts every area of the game, arguably one of the best passing big men in existence and for every game where he puts up HUGE numbers...he has a game like this last one at San Antonio where he's just everywhere disrupting the flow of the opponent's offense and doing tons of things that don't show up in the box score.

Jo has flirted with triple doubles in roughly 8 games this season.
Big Al has flirted with a triple double ONCE.

Add in the fact that Cleveland has 3 potential All-Stars on the floor on any given night (granted Lou is marginal), and with all of that...they are STILL looking up at The Bulls in the standings.

It's not a measure of the numbers. It's a measure of impact. And if anyone deserved the nod this year....over Jo. And yes.....he deserved it at Big Al's expense

One of those three guys had to make it at a minimum. Overall though there is just a lot of talent in the conference. And that's without a shoe-in all-star like Westbrook since he has been hurt.

In the East I was very pleased to see Derozan and Millsap make it. They were two guys I thought were deserving but who were kind of on the bubble by most accounts.

Even Lillard has been poo-poo for the past month or so after his hot start. Besides, Mr. #EmptyStats Dirk is having an over-rated comeback season as his impact has been Ryan Anderson-isque. Brow/Boogie/Dragic/Ibaka were more deserving

he's deserving to be an all-star... BUT Lowry and Lance are even MORE deserving... I really think they need to expand the rosters but there are 2 BLATANT snubs on each side each year

@rob_starrk

I wanna see Lebron and em play 35 mins, not lose a couple of minutes to the likes of Lowry, Lance, JJ etc.

Its always better to have deserving players left off than undeserving players getting a bid, imo. Maybe expand 1 spot because the actual game day rosters are 13 people but I think it should reflect the number of players that suit up, then its truly representative of an 'all star team'.

Besides you wind up getting 14 and 15 people per team anyway when you factor in the injury replacements.

http://youtu.be/YaIRUesJ2Ug

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/10-thoughts-about-the-nba-all-star-game-selections/

The NBA’s night of enraged snubbery has passed, and we are just two weeks away from All-Star Weekend/Armageddon in New Orleans. Seriously: One of the annual Carnival-season parades (http://www.kreweduvieux.org/) takes place on All-Star Saturday, and I’m told by several longtime New Orleans residents that it’s the funkiest (though far from the largest) of the Carnival events. And this is all taking place in a city famous for its debauchery. We may not get out alive.

Some scattered thoughts on All-Star rosters as they take firmer shape:

1. The word “snub” is reaching “hate” levels of overuse, to the point of meaninglessness. Here’s what a snub really is: In my mid-twenties, I returned home a couple of days before Christmas and went to do all my holiday shopping in a single trip to the local mall. Awkward social encounters with past acquaintances were inevitable. I was like Jason Bourne — head on a swivel, scanning the full 180-degree panorama of panicked shoppers hundreds of feet in front of me. If I spotted a high school person with whom I didn’t want to engage in some painful and mandatory social interation, I’d duck into whatever store I happened to be standing beside at that moment. That’s a snub.

And by the way: I’ve had a few people in that murky space between friend and non-friend pull such blatant snubbery on me, including an acquintance from college who made eye contact with me on a train platform and bolted. And I respect that. Train time is sacred, and the conversation would have been bad. Solid snubbing.

There are no “snubs” in the Western Conference, no place for outrage. There are only 12 spots, and somewhere around 17 or 18 players with well-rounded All-Star cases. The top guys who didn’t make it — Mike Conley, Goran Dragic, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins — aren’t “no-brainers” who got jobbed. Look at the 12 players who made the team! You can’t magically expand the roster to 13 or 14 guys just so everyone can get a cookie. Choosing 12 in this conference is hard, agonizing work, and ultimately comes down to the splitting of microscopic hairs.

I made my All-Star picks 10 days ago (http://grantland.com/features/our-nba-all-star-team/) so you can read them there. I set the fan vote aside and assumed (perhaps liberally) that Chris Paul would miss the game because of injury, so neither Kobe Bryant nor Paul made my team. And yet, both Dragic and Conley still missed the cut. Remember: The rules dictate fans and coaches combined choose four guards, six “frontcourt” players, and two wild cards of any position. Traditional positions like “shooting guard” and “small forward” don’t appear on the ballot, so there is no argument that, say, Chandler Parsons should be on the team because the West needs another small forward behind Kevin Durant. And given the raft of qualified big men, it’s reasonable to select a roster with four guards and eight “frontcourt” guys. That’s the composition of my personal All-Star team, and it may well be the composition of the actual roster even if both Bryant and Paul miss the game.

That would open up two spots, but removing those two guards would not require the insertion of even a single additional guard. The West would still have the required four guards in Stephen Curry, James Harden, Tony Parker, and Damian Lillard. And if two spots do open up, Davis is a very strong bet to snag one of them. He is fifth overall in Player Efficiency Rating, and though he’s predictably struggled at times to pick up the nuances of Monty Williams’s system on defense — Davis is freaking 20 years old — he’s still a net positive on that end.

That would leave one spot. Parker and Lillard are probably the shakiest choices left on the remaining roster. Lillard made my team, but in the 10 days that have passed since then, he has slumped across the board and suffered his worst stretch of 3-point shooting this season. His PER has dropped nearly 1.5 points in that span, and he’s down to 46th overall in that category — well behind both Dragic (15th after a sensational performance last night in Indiana) and Conley (23rd).

Lillard is the worst defender among those three, and it’s not really close. He’s regressed a bit on that end lately, and the Blazers in several recent games have had to move him off opposing point guards much earlier, and for much longer, than usual. (Nicolas Batum typically defends the point guard in this scenario.) The Lillard/Mo Williams combo is becoming unplayable defensively, and it’s only a matter of time before Terry Stotts puts Dorell Wright back in the rotation to add a bit more size. Lillard’s case over Conley and Dragic now hinges upon his central role in Portland’s league-best offense, and his ridiculous clutch shooting. Lillard is 12-of-22 (and 7-of-12 from deep) in the last three minutes of close games (margin of three or fewer points), with a pile of game-winning, game-tying, and just super-important late-game buckets. But I think we’ve reached the point where the clutch shooting isn’t enough to compensate for the overall superiority of both Conley and Dragic.

Lillard is in regardless, and Parker is a fine choice whose numbers would look even better if Gregg Popovich played him more. That leaves us with three top candidates for the last remaining injury-replacement spot, assuming Davis gets one: Conley, Cousins, and Dragic. You could toss in Ty Lawson, Serge Ibaka, and Nikola Pekovic if you’d like, and Ibaka especially has made a strong late push.

This is an impossible choice, but if the league really wants another guard, I’m going with Conley by the tiniest of margins over Dragic. He’s a better overall defender, peskier and a bit cleaner, and he carried the Grizzlies’ offense to a stunning level of competence in Marc Gasol’s absence. If you’d like to go with Dragic, that’s fine. The numbers are basically identical, Dragic has been the centerpiece of the league’s best story, and he’s kept the Suns humming since Eric Bledsoe’s injury. He’s not quite at Conley’s level as a point guard defender, but he’s big enough to defend some shooting guards in the right matchup.

You could pick Cousins, too. I picked him on my team, but my hunch is the league will reward a guard if both Paul and Bryant miss the game. Cousins has a very complicated All-Star case; I wrote about it at length in my original All-Star piece, and he barely got my last roster spot.

But I repeat: Stop describing any of these guys as having been snubbed. Also: Players don’t get “snubbed” from the unwatchable rookie-sophomore game. They get spared from having to play in it.

2. You want a real snub? Travel east to the league’s weaker conference, and take a gander at Kyle Lowry. His omission is one of the worst I can recall, and it’s safe to assume the league’s coaching fraternity is punishing Lowry for his well-chronicled run-ins with just about every coach he’s come across in Memphis, Houston, and even Toronto. Lowry is second among all Eastern Conference guards in PER, and considering the tiny gap between Lowry and the top guy (Dwyane Wade), and Wade’s 13 missed games, you could easily argue Lowry has been the best guard in the conference. John Wall, a deserving All-Star, is right there, but he’s really the only other guy in the discussion.

Not in the discussion: Joe Johnson, ranked a robust 141st in PER, right behind Alec Burks, Miles Plumlee, Jeremy Lamb, and Mario Chalmers. That stat underrates Johnson. He’s a versatile player capable of scoring in a number of useful ways and defending multiple positions, and he’s finding his role within a Nets roster stocked with ball-dominant stars. He plays for a high-profile team for whom he’s made several high-profile clutch buckets, including game-winning buzzer-beaters in Phoenix and Oklahoma City. He is a very nice person.

Alas, he has no real All-Star case, especially in relation to Lowry and Arron Afflalo. His entire platform rests upon those few key buckets and the notion that he “carried” the Nets back to relevancy in January. That is simply not true. Johnson did score at least 25 points in five of six games during a stretch that began on January 6, but he hasn’t scored more than 13 points in a game since, and he preceded that hot streak with five consecutive single-digit scoring games.

Those five very good games were a part of the Nets’ renaissance. But to claim they were the driving force behind it is simplistic. Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce have found their stride in that span, Deron Williams and Andrei Kirilenko have returned to health, and the turnaround coincides almost exactly with Jason Kidd’s move to weirdo hybrid small lineups.

Basketball is about more than a few big shots and reputation, and Johnson is actually only 5-of-14 in the last three minutes of close games. He is not an All-Star.

3. DeMar DeRozan over Lowry is probably the wrong choice, but it’s at least semi-defensible in a weak field. DeRozan is still a poor shooter — 43 percent overall, 30 percent from deep — but he has made big strides as a defender and a passer, and he’s getting to the line a ton in a career season. He soaks up a huge load of possessions for a team that needs a fulcrum in a post–Rudy Gay world. I took Afflalo over DeRozan for my team, and I still would today, but I’m not throwing a fit about it. Johnson is the guy who doesn’t belong.

4. It’s funny, by the way, how three of Bryan Colangelo’s key decisions in Toronto don’t look so bad now. DeRozan’s contract extension took widespread criticism, including here, and it’s still a bit too long and pricey for my taste. But if he keeps improving, he’ll live up to it, and Toronto could easily find a home for him via trade. Colangelo got Lowry for a pick that became Steven Adams, though of course a pick that juicy has larger value that just Adams; Houston used it as the key piece in the James Harden deal. Amir Johnson’s contract looks downright good now.

None of this erases the Andrea Bargnani stain, the Gay trade, or the insane Landry Fields contract. But the record is mixed, not one of total failure, and the record of almost every GM regresses to “mixed” over time.

5. I’m shocked by how many fans, presumably Oklahoma City guys, have asked about the omission of Russell Westbrook. Umm … he has played 25 games this season, he’s out until the All-Star break, and by that time, he’ll have played in about 40 percent of available games. There are 12 spots in the Western Conference. He’s not a real candidate. Nor is DeAndre Jordan, by the way, no matter what Doc Rivers says. And while I love Kawhi Leonard and appreciate his place in San Antonio’s teamwide success, Charles Barkley is nuts to claim Leonard deserves an All-Star spot this season. The field is just too crowded.

6. I addressed the cases of Lance Stephenson and Andre Drummond in my original piece, so I won’t reenter those debates here. The fact that something like 60 percent of respondents to TNT’s poll last night listed Stephenson as the most egregious snub over three other candidates, including Lowry, is interesting and probably reflective of how little attention anyone pays to the Raptors.

7. Jeff Teague got some mentions last night as a snub. No. He’s had a nice season, but his play has dropped off after a hot start.

8. The sneaky interesting alleged snub is Al Jefferson, on fire lately, with 10 consecutive 20-plus scoring games to prop up a Charlotte offense that misses Kemba Walker’s shot creation. When you look at the actual Eastern Conference All-Star roster, there’s no real reason to keep Jefferson out. He suffers a bit from a bunch of things — that nobody really watches a 20-27 Charlotte team; that he missed nine early-season games with ankle issues; and the correct perception that he’s a bad defender. Even Big Al has rather amusingly copped to that, and Charlotte’s defense has declined continuously after a stingy start against an easy schedule. The Bobcats are 24th in points allowed per possession in January, and their core lineups with Jefferson in the middle have mostly struggled despite a system designed to better hide his limitations. (We’ll see if the return of Michael Kidd-Gilchrist changes this.) Jefferson certainly merits inclusion over Johnson and perhaps DeRozan, though he shares that status with Afflalo, Lowry, and a couple of others.

9. Marco Belinelli spilled the beans and revealed he’s going to be one of the six guys invited to participate in the 3-point shootout, my favorite All-Star event. Below is my ideal field for this season’s shootout. Keep in mind, I weigh performance this season more heavily than anything else, so Ray Allen, the greatest 3-point shooter ever, suffers for having hit just 34 percent from deep this season.

The lucky six:

1. Kyle Korver
2. Jose Calderon
3. Kevin Durant
4. Stephen Curry
5. Channing Frye
6. Wesley Matthews

I like a mixed bag in my 3-point shootout — role players and stars, big guys and small guys. Korver, Durant, and Curry are obvious choices. Korver is the current king of the deep shot, carrying a massive ongoing streak of games with at least one triple. Durant is shooting flames out of his hands. Curry is shooting “just” 39.9 percent from deep, low by his standards, but no one takes higher degree of difficulty in-game 3s or creates as loud an in-arena buzz just by being in the general vicinity of 3-point range.

As for the other choices: Calderon is an all-time great shooter jacking more 3s than ever before, and he’s never appeared in the contest. Frye is our must-have big guy with Ryan Anderson injured, Kevin Love (the champ two years ago) shooting a “blah” 37 percent from deep, and Matt Bonner barely playing. Dirk Nowitzki would be a fine choice, but he’s 35 with aching knees, and he’s participated several times before — and won once. Frye is shooting 41.5 percent on a ton of attempts, and his return to peak form after a scary enlarged heart diagnosis is one of the best stories of this season. Phoenix needs All-Star representation, especially if Dragic doesn’t make the real game, and its other long-range gunner, Gerald Green, is a better fit for the dunk contest.

Matthews is seventh overall in 3-point attempts and has been scorching basically the entire season. His transformation into an elite high-volume 3-point shooter has been remarkable, and the Blazers, the league’s most prolific 3-point shooting team, deserve representation in the contest. Lillard is a fine choice, too, but he’s going to be in the real All-Star game and the rookie-sophomore mockery.

Other tough omissions: Terrence Ross (dunk contest candidate), Lillard, Belinelli, Spencer Hawes, Love, Martell Webster, Lowry, Parsons, J.J. Redick, Paul George, Patty Mills, Kyrie Irving (the defending champ), Jameer Nelson, Mirza Teletovic, Afflalo, and Klay Thompson. The Warriors are pushing hard behind the scenes to get both Thompson and Curry into the contest, and teammates have participated before — including two Miami players in both 2011 and 2012, and two Celtics in 2011.

10. Skill set competitions I’d watch: a special corner 3 shootout for the league’s corner specialists; any one-on-one competition; and a big-man skills competition.

In any case, it’s two weeks until All-Star Weekend, with two potential selections still up in the air. Let the debates rage on.

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Anthony Davis will replace Kobe Bryant (injured) for the West at the 2014 All-Star Game.

Dude is an absolute beast.

Now all we need is Jrue/Gordon traded for someone fun to Watch.