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2259447, See no man, See no ball: The James Harden Defense Post
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Nov-09-13 02:50 PM
I remember when I was watching the Knicks a coupel of years ago there was a couple of hilarious videos going around of the Amare defense. This might not be quite as bad, but is pretty embarrassing. Glad this is getting picked up by media (albeit mostly bloggers). Maybe itll be an impetus for change from Harden or getting a coach that will hold him accountable.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIyiEc1741s

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/820453239.gif?1383927126

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/820467449.gif?1383933164

http://i.minus.com/ibhr3F9JIomIj0.gif


an oldie from last yr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnhyCGYHEo
2259448, he better at D than melo
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat Nov-09-13 03:00 PM
2259450, nope, not all that close either
Posted by DJR, Sat Nov-09-13 03:00 PM
2259452, no.
Posted by themaddfapper, Sat Nov-09-13 03:13 PM
2259453, LOL keep trotting out that old horse.
Posted by spawn2k, Sat Nov-09-13 03:15 PM
2259467, Yep very true.
Posted by Szabo, Sat Nov-09-13 04:21 PM
At least Harden is capable of puffing his chest out and guarding people.

Melo, ehh, no.
2259472, k.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sat Nov-09-13 04:38 PM
2259449, disgusting
Posted by DJR, Sat Nov-09-13 03:00 PM
2259451, ole!
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Nov-09-13 03:03 PM
2259454, The sad part is that it's mostly effort with him. He's never gonna be great
Posted by spawn2k, Sat Nov-09-13 03:25 PM
but he could at least get to good. He's gotta realize that as your profile grows you can't get away with bullshit like this anymore. Guys come to town ready to attack you, they're giving you their best effort. You think Reddick wasn't hype coming out in the 1st quarter of that game? or Thabo in the game last year? Come on. All that being said I fully expect him to clean this up within the next 2 seasons either because he's getting fried in the media or a new coach demands it.

Personally I don't think he has enough energy to play offense, defense and chase them H-town strippers. Only has energy for 2/3 and we know which ones he's choosing right now. (Not sure I wouldn't make the same choice either, them H-town strippers man)
2259464, RE: The sad part is that it's mostly effort with him. He's never gonna be great
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Sat Nov-09-13 04:10 PM
^^I support this post
2260618, dawg...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Nov-11-13 04:58 PM

>(Not sure
>I wouldn't make the same choice either, them H-town strippers
>man)
2259458, lmfao @ 45 seconds of this one
Posted by Organ, Sat Nov-09-13 03:44 PM

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIyiEc1741s
2259466, Nashian.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sat Nov-09-13 04:16 PM
2259481, Hopefully, like Nash, Harden starts trying as his career progresses
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat Nov-09-13 05:40 PM
2259593, trying to what
Posted by rob, Sat Nov-09-13 10:04 PM
2259656, Play defense.
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat Nov-09-13 11:05 PM
2259521, Dirklicious
Posted by FILF, Sat Nov-09-13 07:37 PM
“Avery used to get on me pretty good, I’ve got to admit,” Dirk said. “We used to have film sessions that were ‘The Jason Terry and Dirk Nowitzki Horror Show.’ We would come in and he would just show clips of us two and kill us, kill us.”
2259523, That's basically Wade when he doesn't feel like playing D
Posted by FILF, Sat Nov-09-13 07:41 PM
Wade was the reason why Danny Green was being mentioned as Finals MVP. Don't get me wrong, when Wade makes an effort to play D he can be a one man wrecking crew at times.
2259666, Harden will never be as good as healthy, young Wade on D....
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Nov-09-13 11:28 PM
dude is probably the best blocking guard ever.
2259685, Nobody said otherwise but Wade has been notorious for missing rotations
Posted by FILF, Sun Nov-10-13 12:27 AM
He prefers to play weak-side D or center-field (ball hawk) rather than rotate onto shooter or harass the ball handler. Since he's a guard both are a cardinal sins. It's only when Wade is locked in defensively that the Heats' swarming defense becomes feasible.
2259555, Fuck man- reddick roasting again
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Nov-09-13 08:55 PM
Basically he's now known as a bad defender so guys will attack him harder. Right now everytime he's in KK just runs really really fast and he knows harden will give up at some point.
2259686, I don't think he has the stamina to play both ends
Posted by FILF, Sun Nov-10-13 12:33 AM
>Basically he's now known as a bad defender so guys will
>attack him harder. Right now everytime he's in KK just runs
>really really fast and he knows harden will give up at some
>point.

Dude used to be gassed out in OKC when he had to guard Kobe or Wade. His offensive output drastically drops to mediocrity. He needs to layoff that strip club chicken wing from time to time.
2259739, Like i said above. Offense, Defense and H-town strippers
Posted by spawn2k, Sun Nov-10-13 08:54 AM
He only has the energy to do 2/3 and right now he's shooting at the rim and the hoes.
2259698, In Harden's defense, Redick is awesome.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Nov-10-13 01:03 AM
2259743, -_-
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Nov-10-13 09:15 AM
2259696, Harden to me might have been one of the Greatest 6th man's ever
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sun Nov-10-13 01:00 AM
had he stayed in that role, however as a starter you see him getting exposed. now he can score when he wants however he dribbles too much and and shots reckless at times.

his numbers override the reality at times of his erratic shot selection and ball handling

and i like Harden for the record and the rockets are still a threat to come out of the west.

2260541, Its making its round in the media
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Nov-11-13 02:54 PM
Improve or Die....

cause every player is really gonna be going after him now on the defensive end of the court.


http://nba.si.com/2013/11/11/james-harden-defensive-faults-houston-rockets/
2260542, He's too young to be saving his energy on defense
Posted by Melanism, Mon Nov-11-13 02:57 PM

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2260602, And on top of that Harden got fined (c) Phife remix
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Nov-11-13 04:28 PM
First flopping fine of the season.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/originals/2013/11/11/harden-fined-for-flop.nba/index.html
2260607, he has a David Lee type breakdown coming at the next Sloane Conf
Posted by southphillyman, Mon Nov-11-13 04:41 PM