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2208589, Come On Man
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jul-10-13 07:41 PM

>>Our draft pick next year cannot be considered a "blue
>>chipper." It will be a middling first rounder.
>>
>my dude, you ain't making the playoffs & next year is the most
>well-regarded first-round in five to ten years.
NO's got a DECENT shot at making the 8th seed. Out of the top 8 this year, Denver and LAL might fall out of there...NO's got as good a shot to make it as say Portland

>We will have a Top 3 & your pick, which will likely fall
>somewhere in the 7 to 13 range, then be plugging in a healthy
>Noel with that while seeing if a
>big-athletic-defender/pass-first-PG like MCW can shake where
>he went to school.
>
>>Is MCW a blue chipper? Well on that generous scale that
>makes
>>Jrue a bonafide STAR.
>>
>Actually MCW was a higher-regarded draft pick than Jrue was.
>
>I don't like him all that much since he did go to Syracuse but
>his upside could be higher.
MCW is a good player. Syracuse is my squad so I'm biased, but if he works on his jumper his ceiling could be a poor man's Penny Hardaway...he's that good

>>I get it, you are clinging to POTENTIAL. Its all Philly has
>>now. We traded potential for established production.
>
>LOL, like Tyreke Evans.
>
>Congrats.
Tyreke's better than everyone Philly has, and he's still only 23


> We added
>>an All Star point guard and a recent historic (20, 5 & 5)
>>rookie of the year. And that's a shitty off season? Ok.
>>
>Yes, because the small chance it makes you a bit better
>coupled with the picks you gave away (and the fact that you're
>doing it partly because you whiffed on that Rivers pick) will
>only improve you by a small increment while that's not a
>nucleus for the future that will ever be capable of winning
>anything.



>>Honest question...what is your projection for Noel? What can
>>he be? A smaller Tyson Chandler at best?
>
>Please. He'll be much better than Chandler & will develop
>quicker.
LOL...really? Have you seen him play? He's LUCKY if he turns into Tyson Chandler. NO's got the better version of Noel in Anthony Davis, who's leaps and bounds better, and will be

> Ok, fine. In what,
>>3-5 years? Great. Have fun with that. He's not some super
>>prospect. He's an athletic, SKINNY AS FUCK shot blocker with
>a
>>busted knee and no offense.
>
>Chandler has no offense.
>
>It's funny you knock Noel while pumping up Brow tho.
Chandler doesn't have offense...but it took him YEARS to be the player he is now...if you're willing to wait 8 years on Noel to be good, so be it.
And Brow>>>>Nerlens homey...it just is

> He would've been the 10th pick
>>last year.
>uh, no.
>
>>Drummond is a way better prospect and he went 9th.
>
>Nah.
LOL...he was the 6th pick THIS YEAR. Last year was a better draft and you honestly think he would've went HIGHER? Come on man

And yes, Drummond was a better prospect. Noel is more polished right today though. Drummond has more of an upside because he's stronger and just as athletic

>>Harping on his pre-injury draft stock in the worst draft in
>a
>>decade is just weird.
>>
>>Jrue is an established All Star.
>
>LOL @ 'established All-Star'.
>
>He crept into the game this season on the Eastern side by
>putting up 17/8 on a bad team & because Rondo was hurt while
>Deron was playing like shit.
>
>He would have no shot of making it out West or with a healthy
>East.
>
>Dude is what he is, a borderline-All-Star replacement reserve
>while putting up respectable numbers on a bad team & maybe a
>borderline Top 10 PG for a stretch of his career (with last
>year being the first).
It's hilarious how Philly fans can now shit on a player that balled for you guys. You can almost say the same thing about Kyrie Irving

>>Whoopty-damn-do(c)D.C.
>
>He will never be truly elite & we're in a league where even
>having a great PG doesn't really lead to winning anything
>anyway.
Maybe so...but it's a great place to start from

>I would have traded him for Noel straight-up let alone with
>another lotto pick thrown in & unlike you I've actually
>watched him play since he got in the league.......strike that,
>actually since UCLA really.
>
>>He's 23. He's improving. No
>>question marks. No "hope he develops." He's already what you
>>hope Noel turns into.
>
>No, he's not. What you hope Noel turns into is a big-man who
>can actually affect the games.
You can hope...people had that same hope about Darius Miles and Stromile Swift

>>Clinging to potential will turn you
>>quickly into Charlotte or Sacramento.
>>
>>Lets say you luck out and get Wiggins next year. Super.
>You've
>>got a core of Wiggins (hope), Noel (hope), MCW (a TON of
>>hope), and the 15th pick (lulz). Fun, young team to root for
>>that won't be any good for at least 3-5 years. That's not
>OKC
>>bro, that's just another team hoping young guys blossom into
>>stars.
>>
>LOL, you keep quoting the 15th pick which would make you a
>playoff team & yet sidestepping any offer to bet on y'all
>actually making the playoffs.....which you won't.
I can't disagree with you here...I do think NO has a decent shot at the 8th seed though

>We will have four cracks at grabbing hopefully two impact
>young players, all of our cap room & every contract that we
>will have in addition to that will be movable.
>
>This is how you actually get better, not dick around & overpay
>for bullshit that keeps you mediocre like the Sixers did for a
>decade and y'all are doing right now.
>
>>Its not the worst place to be, but acting like we fucked up
>by
>>getting ESTABLISHED TALENT is some bizarro shit.
>>
>You gave two lottery picks for a barely
>top-half-of-the-league-starting-PG & paid Tyreke Evans 44
>million dollars.
>
>Bill Duke is talking to you.
To say NO made TERRIBLE moves is kind of hating though
They made really good moves, improved their team, and have a young core that can only get better