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2201267, people who used to say Matt Kemp was bad defensively...
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 12:18 AM
peep sportscenter..

He went Willie Mays-esque for a game winning catch in his first game back...

Puig and Kemp are gonna be fun to watch.
2201283, i like his game though they are staying in last place.
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Jun-26-13 01:12 AM
fun to watch and owning the basement in the NL west. Dusty Baker, Davey Lopez,Rick Monday and Fernando are all turning over in there grave with being in last place and fun being used in the same sentence.

my man Donny Baseball deserves better than that even though they have a fun little last place team,all that money and the same results.
2201285, max they all still alive man
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 01:19 AM
>fun to watch and owning the basement in the NL west. Dusty
>Baker, Davey Lopez,Rick Monday and Fernando are all turning
>over in there grave with being in last place and fun being
>used in the same sentence.
>


and FYI , the dogers are on the come up and the giants are fading... the dodgers will definitely be in the hunt...dont sleep on PUIG, KEmp, Eithier, and Crawford (when he get back), Hanley is healthy too...just need the pitching to step up a notch or two..
2201295, RE: max they all still alive man
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Jun-26-13 02:18 AM
i know they is alive however they would roll over getting excited about being a last place team, dodger fans i know from back in the day don't applaud being in no last place that's all. and in a division where a good month might seal the deal.

giants might be fading however they got 2 rings in the past few years. all the money and taking my new york boys out west to bring them back and only mixed results ain't good enough.

they got joe torre and donny baseball and haven't even been as good as the padres post manny era. i like the offense i'm seeing there, however they just aren't a legit threat in the national league this year.

2201348, They're in last because their best players have been hurt all year
Posted by DJR, Wed Jun-26-13 08:42 AM
They haven't been able to put their best lineup on the field yet.

Now with Ramirez and Kemp back, and Puig up....you look at that lineup and its looking a lot better. Only missing piece now is Crawford. They've won 4 in a row, things are starting to turn.

If they stay healthy the rest of the way, they've got a good chance to come back and win the division.
2201392, The Yankees Can Say The Exact Same Thing Though
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jun-26-13 10:11 AM
>They're in last because their best players have been hurt all year
>They haven't been able to put their best lineup on the field
>yet.
>
And they are only 2 behind of 1st place in a tougher division.

There's not many excuses that LA has to be this bad...and that goes for both LA teams
2202027, thank you, the yankees been hurt and not even a threat
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Jun-27-13 02:34 AM
and still within striking distance of sorry butt boston.

this is the difference between a yankee fan and a dodger fan, if we are in last place we ain't giddy over a rookie that is hyped and playing great and a veteren making some great plays, naw we have expectations.

the yankees aren't even fully on point and still are 5 times better than them messes in baseball out in La
2202098, That's nice......when did this post become Dodgers vs. Yankees?
Posted by DJR, Thu Jun-27-13 09:17 AM
What the Yankees are or aren't doing has nothing to do with my point.

5 in a row now, for the Dodgers.

2201435, Last place due to RISP woes and horrible bullpen
Posted by Wonderl33t, Wed Jun-26-13 10:43 AM
Can't blame the injuries alone. The guys who are healthy bat a good average, but can't drive anyone in. And the bullpen has 14 losses, I believe? Pretty bad. Look at last night. B. League tried to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


>They haven't been able to put their best lineup on the field
>yet.
>
>Now with Ramirez and Kemp back, and Puig up....you look at
>that lineup and its looking a lot better. Only missing piece
>now is Crawford. They've won 4 in a row, things are starting
>to turn.
>
>If they stay healthy the rest of the way, they've got a good
>chance to come back and win the division.
2201440, 28th in the league in runs scored is the biggest problem though
Posted by DJR, Wed Jun-26-13 10:50 AM
You're right, definitely not the only problem.

But they've basically had one good hitter in the lineup all year in Gonzales. Everyone else has been hurt for a lot of the year, in and out of the lineup.

League sucks.

I think they're poised to make a run for the division now though, assuming Kemp gets right and produces like normal now that he's back. You get Kemp going, with Ramirez, Puig, and Gonzales....that's a lot of firepower and they should start to make up ground. Crawford will help too when he's back.
2201299, A highlight reel catch < the 1601 plays he made prior to that
Posted by Call It Anything, Wed Jun-26-13 03:05 AM
Dewan +/- has him at -75 basic for his career and -147 enhanced for his career

Fangraphs has his UZR at -66

Baseball-Reference has his Total Zone at -5.5

Baseball Prospectus has him at -33.8 Field Runs Against Average

2013 Scouting Report:

"As a defender, I’ve never thought he was playing his true position. He’s just fair, at best, in center. But by putting him in center, what are you getting in the corners? Are you getting an extra 30 or 40 more runs on the field offensively, compared to the 20 or 30 you’re giving up by having a less-than-great defender in center? With both Kemp and Ethier, you don’t hear, “Gold Glove defender,” very often any more. I’ve never made a report where I’ve written that on either of them."

Going by any conceivable objective measurement, he's bad.

But, yeah that was a nice catch tonight.
2201304, he is bad
Posted by RobOne4, Wed Jun-26-13 05:34 AM
not as bad as before but still is bad.
2201387, If only last place mattered
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 10:04 AM