Silly season for NBA reporters and GMs has begun!

Paul Pierce for #31 and #33

Sam Amico, who I don't think has ever gotten a rumor right, is saying that Luol Deng for #3 and Emeka Okafor is being discussed.

Post and Discuss the rumors here.

>Silly season for NBA reporters and GMs has begun!
>

Im actually beginning to like the offseason more than the reg season. Sheer Lunacy.

REPORT don’t be surprised if Pelicans acquire 13th pk from Mavs, select Giannis Adetokunbo. NOLA also gets Shawn Marion, send Mavs future pk.

per Fletcher Mackel in NOLA

& supposedly allegedly Aldridge is a draft night trade candidate. It's somewhere I just can't find it.

Tepid feelings about the draft from GMs plus a new CBA make for some moves to be made. If you're bold and know who you want, I bet you can get him almost regardless of projected position.

That Deng rumor sounds dumb for both teams. That's a bad one. There will be a lot of bad ones.

Instead of sitting and hoping Otto is as good as Deng. You get Deng.

The amount of risk they'd be taking on him (especially teaming him with Nene who also can stay healthy) would be huge.

And they wouldn't be able to talk extension before the trade because the deal would have to go down before team's can talk to free agents.

But Grunfeld is the guy who trade Ricky Rubio for Mike Miller and Randy Foye so anything is possible.

This deal definitely fits the bill of a Grunfeld trade.

Really not a great idea but when have you known Grunfeld to really plan well for the future....

yes, it's bad for both teams, and it's probably worse for the wiz.

This will help them get there.

Sigh.

Although the Blazers quickly shot it down.

A lot of chatter out there but not a single reasonable trade rumor yet.

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btw if sheridan hoops was in print, i wouldn't scoop dogshit with it.

i don't believe none of it. someone's got an angle they're playing here.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/06/25/source-bobcats-shopping-kidd-gilcrest-to-draft-otto-porter/

The Charlotte Bobcats are shopping Michael Kidd-Gilchrist around the league, confident they will be able to replace him with Otto Porter of Georgetown with the No. 4 pick in Thursday’s draft.

The reason the Bobcats braintrust of Rich Cho and owner Michael Jordan believe Porter will be available is because, SheridanHoops has learned from league sources, the Washington Wizards are determined to draft Andrew Bennett of UNLV with the No. 3 pick.

A second league source said the Bobcats have been working the phones, gauging the interest level among teams for the 2nd pick in the 2012 NBA Draft.

“MKG” had an up-and-down rookie season for the Bobcats averaging 9.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.9 bpg and 0.7 spg. Among the teams most interested, according to the source, are the Milwaukee Bucks, Golden State Warriors, Atlanta Hawks and Boston Celtics.

Charlotte has targeted Harrison Barnes of the Warriors as the player they would most like to acquire, but a straight-up offer of Kidd-Gilchrist would not be enough.

The Bucks are targeting small forwards after trading Tobias Harris to Orlando for J.J. Redick, and they had their sights set on Crotian Dario Saric before he withdrew from the draft last week. Milwaukee, has the 15th pick, is looking for a defensive-minded small forward and believe Kidd-Gilchrist would be a good fit in coach Larry Drew’s system.

Boston, which presumably will be looking for a replacement for Paul Pierce, who can be bought out for $5 million by June 30 but is more likely to be traded, has the No. 16 pick.

The Hawks have picks Nos. 17 and 18 but very few other trade assets other than John Jenkins, the 23rd overall pick in 2012. The only other Hawks players currently under contract are Al Horford and Lou Williams, although Jeff Teague and Ivan Johnson are expected to receive qualifying offers that will make them restricted free agents.

This just reeks of desperation from a 2nd rate blogger site.

Never know though.

I just hope it happens so I can stop watching the Bobcats.

#6 and Robin Lopez.

Then they can draft Porter and Bennett/Len/Burke etc.


Pelicans fly with AD and MKG for the next 10-12.

Robin is serviceable though. He's the type that a dumb team would throw boatloads of cash at. He's at least as good if not better than Perk or Javale right now.

Charlotte has targeted Harrison Barnes of the Warriors as the player they would most like to acquire, but a straight-up offer of Kidd-Gilchrist would not be enough.

If they wanted Barnes, they could've taken him last year. They're going to turn around a year later like "my bad, can we have Barnes instead of MKG?"

If Milwaukee needs a SF so badly since trading Harris for Redick.....why'd they trade Harris for Redick?

These teams have more of a plan than this right? I realize these are bad franchises, but I don't believe this, basically.

Then again teams are treating Thomas Robinson like he's Chucky Atkins....so to fig.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/06/25/2560584/source-says-bobcats-arent-looking.html

why the fuck would the warriors trade barnes for mkg straight up?
mkg can't shoot and he can't play small ball 4 like barnes
after the playoffs barnes ceiling looks higher, but even if you ignore that barnes is just a better fit in that system

and the reddick trade was a massive L for the bucks
and he might bounce anyway in FA.....
a sign and trade might be their way of salvaging a little something from their mistake of giving away a good young player for a one dimensional dude who's probably already reached his ceiling

Reports: Cavs down to Noel or Len at No. 1

The Cavaliers are expected to select either Kentucky C Nerlens Noel or Maryland C Alex Len with the No. 1 overall pick in Thursday's draft.
Both ESPN and FOX Sports Ohio are reporting that this is a two-horse race as we approach the 48-hour mark. And in a sign of just how weak this draft class is, Chad Ford says that the Cavs wouldn't expect either one to be an immediate starter -- even if their respective injuries heal in time. Cleveland has Anderson Varejao and Tristan Thompson up front. The Cavs are expected to finalize their draft board in the next 24 hours, so perhaps we'll have a clearer picture of their plans then. If they go for Len, the Magic are expected to take Noel at No. 2 overall.

porter is the safe pick, mclemore is the home run pick and i think noel and len are the need picks that fall somewhere in between.

They must really love them old man commercials,

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/60324/cavs-thunder-mavs-shopping-draft-picks

That does intrigue me, though.

You can take the chance on Nerlens or Len and be straight.

Pekovic/Len or Noel
Tristan/AK 47
Derrick Williams/AK 47/Budinger
Waiters/Ridnouer/Shevd
Rubio/JJ


not bad

hell swap Otto and run with him and Derrick Williams and draft a Center late to back up Pekovic


not like you are going to win WITH Love

Other than it's Minnesota and they love white.

it's this kinda short-selling that went on when i was calling love a future superstar while y'all doubted he was athletic enough to excel in the L.

The teams also averaged about 20 wins a year in his 5 seasons. Actually had their best year last season when he was hurt. That's a helluva young haul to build with.

love is a straight up star and i'd throw away all them dudes for him.

He's a star that's always injured....I would say that trading for Love would be more of a risk for Cleveland....U don't know if he's even going to play an entire season....

I don't know homie...That dude has been on the bench quite a lot at his young age....Kinda scary....

>The teams also averaged about 20 wins a year in his 5
>seasons. Actually had their best year last season when he was
>hurt. That's a helluva young haul to build with.


U beat me to it....

>Other than it's Minnesota and they love white.

It's easy.

Dion projects as a role-player, scorer off the bench.

Tristan Thompson is Derrick Williams clone, a.k.a end of rotation PF.

Guys like that are dime a dozen in the league, the only difference is that high pick shine hasn't worn off yet. But Cleveland been fucking up the draft for a while.

So you're left with the #1 pick and whether you like any of those guys (Noel, Porter, Len, Oladipo) over Love. And you don't.

Don't get me wrong, I'd turn that deal down in a heartbeat if I was Minny. You basically become the Kings with a lot of nice talent who can win just enough games to get your a shitty lotto pick and no playoffs.

But why is Grant gutting his entire roster for a guy who is 90% certain to be gone in a couple years. Kyrie's good but not good enough to make Cleveland more appealing than FL or Los Angeles.

Worst than the Kings?

Just not for the Cavs offer. But they'll be better than the Kings if they can stay healthy.

I agree, I'm not opposed to trading Love, but I don't see how this is such a good offer. I like Waiters enough, but I doubt Thompson/the #1 pick are going to replace Love's production.

Also, there's no indication Love's going to stay in Cleveland.

With Waiters, Thompson, Noel and a lottery pick on your side...


Players can sign back with the teams that trade them, if ypu are a Minnesota fan, idgaf if he resigns with Cleveland.

>Don't get me wrong, I'd turn that deal down in a heartbeat if
>I was Minny. You basically become the Kings with a lot of nice
>talent who can win just enough games to get your a shitty
>lotto pick and no playoffs.
>
>But why is Grant gutting his entire roster for a guy who is
>90% certain to be gone in a couple years. Kyrie's good but not
>good enough to make Cleveland more appealing than FL or Los
>Angeles.

Maybe he's clutching to the LeBron dream.

Hey, LeBron, you win another chip next year and then come home to play with KyKy and Love.

Love is a better shooter than Bosh and can actually rebound.

Kyrie will be better than Wade soon or maybe he already is.

I like AA but seems like at various points they coulda gotten more for Bledsoe. Would love to see how Bledsoe fairs as a full time starter on a mediocre team like Orlando.

They get to dump Caron's salary but still

ESPN is reporting that the Clippers and Magic are still in discussions on a trade that would potentially send Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler to the Magic for Arron Afflalo and possibly Andrew Nicholson. The Clippers could also get a future first-round pick in the deal.
If this deal were to happen prior to the draft (and it may not even be close), it would clear the Magic to draft SG Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore without having to worry about finding minutes for a rookie SG. It would also give them a dynamic point guard and create a likely timeshare with Jameer Nelson, whose career is winding down. The Clippers could use Afflalo's outside shooting and would get something in return for Bledsoe before he becomes a free agent next summer. Doc Rivers has made it clear that he's a Bledsoe fan, but that may only enhance the Clippers' leverage in trying to deal him.

dump Caron's salary?

What did you think they'd get for Bledsoe?

I think this is what they should get in reality.

But everyone else on here has him deemed chosen one, superstar.

They just think he's probably better than a backup, and would like to see him start to see if his game can mature.

run than if was thrown into a starting position as a rookie on a lotto team

Last Monday groupon had seats for mad cheap. I woke up tues morning went to cop but sold out on groupons.

So I go to Barclays and they had a shit if regular price seats (30)
But I know a guy who was a vp of security for the nba. He was gonna call his connect but had to wait til finals were over.

He's checking again today but the crazy shit is as of this morning- no tickets on Craigslist and the stubhub ones are 90 each ...foh.

Oh well might be watching on a tv with all the analysis and comedy.

I can't imagine going to a draft is that entertaining.

If anyone could sell that, Mitch could.

Not sure what NO is asking for but EG is supposedly *very* available. I wouldn't be surprised at some sort of three way deal that sends Granger somewhere else though.

Seems like a good deal for both teams. I like Lance Stephenson, but I think he's best suited as a sixth man. Plus... EG is an Indiana boy, so there's that.

With Granger being from NOLA, and EG from Indiana it makes a ton of sense on paper.


EXCEPT


Granger is an expiring, is on the wrong side of 30 and just missed an entire season. $14 mil for that? No value, no thanks.

Gordon is injury prone and on the block but that is essentially a giveaway. Need more to make it happen. I'd rather just keep him and roll the dice.

http://tinyurl.com/p8zepqs

Ewok lemonhead looking mfer.

They'll be DEEP in the luxury tax with Hibbert, Gordon, a re-signed West, and an extended Paul George.

Those four alone might take up their entire salary cap.

https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/statuses/349945526294294528

Word is, Thomas Robinson was in Cleveland last night for the LL Cool J concert. Sources suspect perhaps for a physical, too.

why is a nigga from the DMV in cleveland, for starters. Then to watch the big head nigga from NCIS whose best records came out when he wasn't alive?

shenanigans.

He wouldn't need to start or do anything more than develop with the other young guys and come off the bench. Great place to start maximizing his talent.

let em kill each other for a year.
if they're not better, you're a shit org and don't deserve to keep kyrie.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6njaryunx1qa1y23o1_500.png

It depends on how things shake out but I think there could be some solid talent at #19 and I'm not sold on Robinson after last season.
I like the idea of Robinson to Chicago and then they try to ship Taj out.

T-Rob can at least spell Tristan effectively and get some boards.

I've also been very unimpressed by Robinson so I think you can probably get a guy at the vet minimum to add what he brings to the table.

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It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

There are vets like Brand, JO, Dalembert out there and I'm sure they could swap out CJ Miles for a backup PF. And isn't Speights still on their roster?

and a star player you're trying to keep. and a fanbase that's tortured

Your boys Ivan Johnson and McBob
>There are vets like Brand, JO, Dalembert out there

these are the guys you're going with? hell no.

You act like I'm saying that they should ONLY sign McBob or Ivan Johnson and they'll be set. I'd much rather grab a prospect I want at 19 and go after bigger free agent names or trades.

If nobody I really like falls to 19, I make the trade but I don't do it pre-draft.

To act like signing Josh McRoberts over Thomas Robinson for the 19 is somehow going to cost your the fan base and force Kyrie to demand a trade is kind of silly.

your main goal is to have as many pieces on board that you can say to both Kyrie and the city "enough is enough, we're in the playoffs from now on"

the guy you get at 19 is 2 yrs away from contributing. And you don't have the luxury to wait on him.

elton, jo, mcbob, dalembert? ivan johnson? yech.

they're much more a vet sf away from being in the playoffs than they are a big man. so if you're gonna go big, take a shot instead of an old guy.

to back up Tristan Thompson. This is a small move. I'd prefer #19 over Robinson. Neither is going to change the makeup of the franchise.

and i was see what t-rob can do in 25 minutes, given the 5 and 5 in 15 minutes.

That would mean the Cavs have the #4 and #5 from last years draft, the #1 and #4 from the year before...

AND they have the #1 pick

and they STILL suck!


a whole starting lineup of top 5 draft picks if they get a C with the #1

do they want to dump wack young players and go to the playoffs next yr or not?
best move would be to say FOH to trob , try to dump tristan somehow
and use the money toward one of the PFs coming out on the FA market
any move that involves taking on salary for "projects" is just dumb , ALL them resources need to be going to building the best team for NOW if their goal is really making the playoffs

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130625/sports/706259711/

Word is, Aldridge wants to escape from Portland's rebuilding project and has made it known that he'd like to land in Chicago.

Deng for Aldridge won't get it done. The Blazers want Joakim Noah in return and the Bulls don't want to give up the superior defensive big man.

I'd offer Boozer and the #20 maybe Teague

or Deng and the Charlotte pick, and maybe the 20

According to Ramona Shelburne, PDX contacted the Clippers about him.

I don't understand why they'd move him. Their roster needs some depth and they have some $ to spend.

Posters in High Griffinition.

Don't think-FEEEEEEEEEEEEEL! © Bruce Lee

The Clips don't have anyone to trade for him...Maybe DJ, but their salaries don't match up...And they r def. not trading Blake...Not when he's the chess piece to try to get D. Howard....

robinson flipped to pdx.

where he'll basically do kenneth faried things, who they should have drafted.

they drafted nolan instead.

The Thunder are pursuing a top-five pick in Thursday's draft and are specifically targeting Maryland center Alex Len, sources tell Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
After reports said Len could fall out of the lottery entirely because of his ankle injury, he's now being mentioned as a potential candidate to go No. 1 overall and almost seems assured to go in the top five Thursday night. The Thunder's interest in Len makes sense considering Serge Ibaka's obvious offensive shortcomings and the fact that OKC has so little in the way of offensive big men. Still, it's the night before the draft, which means smokescreens and false rumors are everywhere and thus all reports should be taken with healthy grains of salt.

Thunder beat writer Darnell Mayberry says he has a gut feeling the Thunder will move into the Top 5 of the draft and could select Alex Len (or Victor Oladipo), if it happens.
Adrian Wojnarowski wrote as much earlier today, but Mayberry breaks down the plan that could make it happen. He suggests the Thunder could offer a Top 5 team (Orlando/Charlotte) picks No. 12, 29, 32 and Dallas' future (protected) first-round pick. If that's enough to get it done, it would appear that the Thunder have a solid shot at getting something done.
Related: Thunder

oladipo replacing thabo? him and russ in the passing lanes? YIKES.

or porter. both guys who want to win more than want their stats.

len wouldn't be bad conceptually, but he's a project and why are you gunning for a project when you're OKC?

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It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

Not to say that Howard outright wants D'Antoni fired, but he doesn't want to play in D'Antoni's system.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9427945/los-angeles-lakers-not-likely-re-sign-dwight-howard-sources-say

There is very little chance of Dwight Howard re-signing with the Los Angeles Lakers this summer, according to sources close to the situation.

Howard is willing to forgo the extra $30 million the Lakers can pay him to play for a coach and in a system he feels will better utilize his skill set, one source said.


The Lakers can offer Howard a five-year, $118 million contract while other teams can pay him only $88 million over four years.

Howard plans to meet with Dallas, Houston and Atlanta before meeting with the Lakers once teams are allowed to contact free agents beginning July 1, a source said. It appears that the teams will visit Howard in Los Angeles.

Howard is notoriously indecisive so the Lakers, while apparently major underdogs, should not be completely eliminated from contention. Before the 2011-2012 season, he repeatedly asked the Orlando Magic to trade him, and then at midseason he opted-in to the final year of his contract to remain in Orlando.

Howard's major problem with the Lakers is the system coach Mike D'Antoni employs. Beyond that, he did not enjoy playing with Kobe Bryant, though he could manage to do so in a different system, a source said. Howard also does not want to be second fiddle to Bryant for several more seasons.

While many believe Houston is the Lakers' stiffest competition, sources say Howard finds Dallas just as appealing, if not more. Assuming the Mavericks are able to clear enough cap space to offer him a maximum-salaried contract, Howard is strongly considering joining Dallas. The Mavericks are trying to shed Shawn Marion's $9 million expiring contract to create the room to sign Howard, according to sources.

Howard likes the idea of being the top superstar of a franchise and with Dirk Nowitzki aging, Dallas would be viewed as Howard's team. Howard also believes the Mavericks can build a championship roster around him with the ample cap space they will have in the summer of 2014.

Some close to Howard believe signing with Houston is his best option. Howard has been in contact with Rockets players James Harden and Chandler Parsons, both of whom are heavily recruiting him.

Howard, however, has concerns about the Rockets' style of play, sources say. While he likes the idea of playing for Coach Kevin McHale, he sees that they play an up-tempo, perimeter-oriented style that does not feature post play.

To get Howard, the Rockets will have to convince him that they will play a style more conducive to his skills.

Atlanta, Howard's home town, is a long shot. As ESPN.com reported two weeks ago, Howard was willing to go to Atlanta with Clippers free agent Chris Paul. But the recent signing of Doc Rivers as the Clippers' head coach has assured that Paul will remain in Los Angeles.

Howard would love to do a sign-and-trade deal that would allow him to play with Paul and the Clippers, but neither he nor the Clippers believe the Lakers will agree to such a move, sources said.

The Wolves continue to try to move up higher in the draft to land either Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore. The latest rumbles have them reaching out to the Magic, Bobcats and Suns offering Derrick Williams and the No. 9 and No. 26 picks in return for Orlando's No. 2 pick, Charlotte's No. 4 pick or Phoenix's No. 5 pick.

cause fuck a luxury tax, that's why.


https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/350301499802402817

per woj: Y! Sources: Brooklyn, Boston discussing Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce blockbuster deal.

if you're gonna throw around picks and money to contend for the next 2 years may as well do it in the most over the top way possible... I'm all for this... esp if they could somehow keep blatche and bogdanovic

I actually think shengalia has potential to be a real solid rotation player, a poor man's manu

my issue tho is pierce and jj are basically guys that will hit open shots now but can't really do much else, now u have them both, and it's hard to play uptempo like Kidd wants with more age

Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, Marshon Brooks, and three first round picks.

I'd rather trade him for a Trade Exception and the Cavs second rounders.

It could happen!

and you're going young and cheap w/ draft picks.

and danny giveth not a fuck.

Sounds fair to me.

And start from scratch.

You probably deal:
- Rondo for #8, Knight, Stuckey's non-guaranteed deal, and top 3 protected 2014 pick.
- Jeff Green and #16 for #3, Kevin Seraphin, and Trevor Ariza and then (if Oladipo is around) deal #3 to Flip Saunders and the Wolves who are reportedly offering #9, #26, and Derrick Williams to get Victor.
- You probably see if you can deal Jason Terry and Avery Bradley for something. Maybe a late first and an expiring deal.

You move forward with #8, #9, #26, Knight, Lee, Ariza, Williams/Sullinger, Fab/Seraphin and win 12 games and pray you win the lotto and land Wiggins.

I can see us missing out again on that special player.

Get 3 picks.

get picks.

Unless NJ sends us unprotected picks (which would have to be 2014, 2016, and 2018 since you can't trade back-to-back future picks), it's not a great value.

In the Cleveland deal, we'd get a trade exception that could be used to nab Josh Smith or Paul Millsap in sign-and-trades.

In this deal, we get an overpaid Crash Wallace who's going to be pissed about riding the pine behind Jeff Green or having to play PF.

Celtics would then be able to make a sign-and-trade for Josh Smith or Paul Millsap with the traded player exception.

This is definitely nicer to Paul but I'd rather have a better team and Paul in Cleveland.