I'm not going to debate JJ vs JH. This was Harden's first time going it alone, and on a young team lacking much additional star power to boot. JJ had Josh and Al and Jamal and several years to grow into a leadership role with Josh and Al. It's a night and day difference.

At any rate the *context* of Joe was about what Paul would give a team as a third man vs what Joe would give as a third man. Paul is an exceptional utility player who does everything and could elevate an entire team with that unique skillset+his size. Joe doesn't give you that.

go start a JH vs JJ poll or something cause that's not at all what I was getting at.