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2182961, i have no interest in going down the rabbit hole with you
Posted by Basaglia, Sun May-19-13 11:24 AM
>
>1) There's a reason nobody is talking about Paul George today.

people been talking about george ALL WEEK, so that's just false.


>Why? Because he a gangly, versatile, talented matchup
>problem,
>far more like Derrick McKey than T-Mac. He's not an alpha
>dog,
>and nobody cares because he's a supporting role player who
>can
>do cool things with the ball. In game 6, with momentum
>building for the
>Knicks ONE PACER put team on his back through fire,
>aggressiveness and
>tenacity: Born Ready. JUST LIKE I SAID. YOU SAID Born Ready
>was Aaron
>Mckie. Wanna take that back? Cool. He's ALREADY better than
>Aaron McKie in
>Mckie's PRIME.

If YOU wanna think that. You can. Lance is a COMPLETELY different issue.

>And yes -- If Kyrie had a BORN READY type, he'd be set for a
>decade.
>
>You want one of these sleepy head passive pussies alongside
>him.
>Dunno why. Ky Ky not winning shit unless he has an ass kicker
>
>sidekick. Tristan Thompson sure ain't it.

Kyrie and TT Boi have no place in this thread. I don't care.


>2) Right today, the narrative from CARMELO HATERS is about
>how
>fucking SORRY his teammates are. The "Carmelo guns too much"
>narrative DIED. EVERYBODY said that shit, then decided to
>WATCH
>the Knicks and was like:
>
>"Oh."

That's not true. The basketball converstion about Melo extends beyond OKS. Knicks fans and Melo fans jumping on grenades in every OKS thread means nothing to me. National media is frying him.


>And STOP CRYING about Knicks fans hyping JR Smith as 6th Man.
>You're missing the point-
>
>THAT he was the sixth man is WHAT MAKES his postseason such
>an embarrassment. Its PRECISELY why the Knicks lost. Because
>
>JR Smith, the league's best 6th man, decided not to show up.
>That's
>the point.

That issue can exist alongside Melo's inefficient scoring and low assists totals and his poor defense.


>The ONE TIME Carmelo had a good team they went to the Western
>Conference Finals and gave the Lakers a good 6 game series.
>And HE
>was the ALPHA DOG.

He had a proven Alpha with him, Chauncey Billups...a Finals MVP. It matters.


>Paul George ain't no ALPHA DOG. He's a supporting cast player
>who
>is the best on his team ON AVERAGE but was NOT the best
>player
>on his team in any ONE game (as in, he averages being the
>2nd-3rd
>best, which is a higher average than any Pacer)

Your opinion. Best "on average" reads the same as "best" to me.


>>You done tried to make LeBron into a superhero who can't
>>POSSIBLY be stopped to deflect from the FACT that he has
>>out-trained and out-worked Melo EVERY DAMN SUMMER since
>>2004...like EVERY SUMMER. And somehow, you have eased your
>>feelings about this with "LeBron came out the womb better."
>
>
>This is the least forgivable of all of your agendas.
>
>One what planet have Carmelo and Lebron EVER been on
>the same stratosphere in terms of gifts?

Has Melo trained as hard as LeBron? simple question. Because your logic is faulty. Bird wouldn't have been better than Nique is your logic held. It doesn't.


>Nigga --- not since PUBERTY.
>
>But you wanna chalk up Lebron's goodness relative to Carmelo
>to Carmelo NOT WORKING AS HARD!?!?! Nigga!??!

Yes...I just chalked it up to that. Because everyone in basketball knows it's THE major factor. LeBron is DEDICATED. You wanna think Melo is. He not.


>STOP.
>
>Carmelo had a BETTER POST GAME AT 18 than Lebron does
>RIGHT TODAY.

you repeated the same shit. No one cares. He got that post game and he couldn't do shit in the 4th with it against George ALL SERIES.

Lebron overall skills and IQ better, so he's
>deadlier from everywhere but Lebron's ROBOTIC CLUNKY
>post game until his 27th birthday was Bwhahahahahahah

who cares? Lebron a champ. He bout to be a champ AGAIN. He's improved his midrange shot and his 3 point shooting. Like, dogg...LOOK AT HIS IMPROVEMENT. HE HAS WORKED FOR IT!

>Carmelo was planting, pivoting, McHaleing niggas at OAK HILL
>
>Why?
>
>Because Carmelo loves the game. He studies footwork. His
>shooting
>form is PERFECT. His arch is PERFECT. His handles are clean.

Yet, he's NEVER shot 50% from the field...40% from three...85% from the line...why has this not happened?

What is a textbook J without SHOT SELECTION, which LEBRON has worked on like a madman the past 2 years, becoming obsessed with shot charts and advanced scoring metrics? THIS SHIT MATTERS, DOGG??!?!

>Carmelo is good SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE he's a junkie.
>Athletically he has NEVER been in the elite class.

again...he don't need to be ELITE. He's a very good athlete.

>>That didn't happen. Hard and dedication matter. How you
>think
>>Paul George came outta nowhere? He was a late-bloomer who
>just
>dfsafd>keeps trying hard and training to get better. How can
>he
>>fuckin dribble better than Melo now when he couldn't take
>four
>>bounces in traffic toward the cup a few years ago? GIVE
>OTHER
>>PLAYERS CREDIT.
>
>He's good. No Alpha dog. No tenacity. Born Ready da captain.

Alpha's take the last shot...that's all that needs to be said to dead your escape pod routine. PG takes the last shot. He has the ball.

>
>>Just fucking eject. Melo not a franchise player. He not top
>5.
>>He bout to be 30 and his knees bout to cook. Just EJECT.
>
>Scoring Champ.
>Among the best wing scorers of his generation.
>One of the most decorated FIBA players ever
>NCAA Champ.

And he's the current Booted Early Champ.

>I'm happy with what he's done.
>
>>If Melo trained hard, he'd have dunk on Hibbert last night.
>>Easy. His lift GONE! You gotta be a HELL of a shooter and
>>creator to win games below the rim and Melo ain't TRAIN for
>>that all these years. You cyse his post game? He supposed to
>>LIVE THERE on some Dantley shit. Get to the line! Double
>digit
>>FTAs every damn game. But, he take his lil jumpers.
>
>Uh. Last night he wasn't hurt and was hitting his jumpers.
>Why?
>Because his jumpshot is fucking deadly. Better than Lebron's.
>
>By miles.

except the NUMBERS show that it isn't. aesthetically, it is...but Lebron has WORKED that his shot is FUNCTIONALLY better than Melo. He makes them when people close on him and contests them, and he makes them when he FUCKING TIRED. Melo don't.

All these ancillary issues you tryna erect around Melo ain't gonna deter anyone from coming after him. He not franchise and he showed it AGAIN last night with his inability to hit those turnarounds over George, those TURNOVERs caused by him being a fuckin 10 year vet and acting like he's never seen a double team out high in his LIFE...he just SOLD! he choked.

You'll get through this tho.