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2138283, Bastradamas: Cataclysmic Civil War Ends The Empire of LeBronon Posted by Basaglia, Wed Feb-27-13 10:45 AM
The End is Nigh...on OKS
The Jordanians, one of the founding factions of LeBronon, will grow agitated as their King's legend grows large enough that it begins to cast doubt on the divinity of their sacred Cheese God.
The True Witnesses will pressure the Jordanians to swear allegiance to the nation that took them in and gave them food and drink after their nation, so powerful IN THE GOTDAMN 1990s, wasted away due to age and really poor fashion choices. Not to mention their Cheese God's Great Speech of No Return that let everyone know he was a madman.
The Anti-Kobestanis will try to keep everyone's hate focused on their common enemy, but they will be the first to be annihilated, because they lack the will, commitment and honor of the other factions.
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2138287, Does Bron have to leave Miami for the prophecy to come through? Posted by Jayson Willyams, Wed Feb-27-13 11:07 AM
What if he went to...gasp...Los Angeles?
Chicago?
New York?
Bron to LA is truly an Extinction Level Event--http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loo0grxNcQ1qcfoo3o1_500.png
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2138288, HAIL GOAT JR Posted by Guinness, Wed Feb-27-13 11:10 AM
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2139301, why you hailing Monta? Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Thu Feb-28-13 04:51 PM
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2138292, i can see this happening Posted by soundsop, Wed Feb-27-13 11:18 AM
the wildcard, though, is that if bron goes on a title-winning tear and for all intents and purposes ends the bron/kobe debate, i could see huge swaths of kobestan joining the lebronon anti-jordanian coalition
and if bron went to the lakers in free agency? tha truth and bombastic; lb's finest and bshelly; united in tearing down the meunster mausoleum
Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!
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2138363, 1. There is no Kobe/Lebron debate Posted by RaFromQueens, Wed Feb-27-13 12:36 PM
2. Kobe fans would side with Mike because their guy is the poor man's version
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2138394, \/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Feb-27-13 12:58 PM
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2138408, (1) until bron has a jewelry case commensurate with his talent, there is Posted by soundsop, Wed Feb-27-13 01:03 PM
(2) i wonder if we could find a kobe fan and ask him how he felt about it. i'll search around
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2138293, are you saying the anti-kobestan brigade Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Feb-27-13 11:19 AM
Lacks the will to winguy?
this is interesting to think about. Jordan was somehow otherworldly in his charisma on-court--as a neutral, I wanted to watch jordan. he was mesmerizing.
Somehow, Lebron doesn't have that mesmerizing status. I don't know if it's just me (possibly), the nature of sports coverage now (also possible), that I'm less neutral as a celtics fan now than in the 90s when we weren't competitive, or that his game doesn't have the same charisma (also possible). It could be that Jordan was a novel character for me--the undisputed best player of his era and now I'm witnessing a replay of that type of undisputed dominance, but it's less interesting because I already experienced it once with Jordan. Or maybe he is a step below MJ.
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2138299, Another angle to think about... Posted by Jayson Willyams, Wed Feb-27-13 11:27 AM
I was a young Knicks fan in the 90s, so Jordan was basically basketball's premier Super Villain. I rooted for the good guys, and he smacked them down time and time again with nefarious tactics and inhuman powers. So I experienced the Jordan era through a prism of wanting him to be killed Wile E. Coyote style by a falling piano.
It took me about half a season to get over Bron not coming to NY. Once that was over, I could just sit back and watch him with awe. Even when the Heat are knocking the Knicks out of the playoffs, I can't honestly say that I feel he's keeping my team from winning a title--they weren't winning a title whether they ran into Bron or not. So without the savage madness of a Bald-Headed Dr. Doom tearing the heads off my favorite action figures, I appreciate him more, but emotionally connect to it less.
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2138369, Yeah, it doesn't help that Lebron is a dancing ass people pleaser nm. Posted by RaFromQueens, Wed Feb-27-13 12:41 PM
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2138295, age and really poor fashion choices....real tears.... Posted by CherNic, Wed Feb-27-13 11:21 AM
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2138298, as the thomas jefferson of this anti kobestani shit, fuck you Posted by bshelly, Wed Feb-27-13 11:25 AM
you think my hate has limits?
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2138303, This gonna be good... Posted by soulfunk, Wed Feb-27-13 11:36 AM
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2138339, if you think Mike had fashion issues, hell, Bron is poised to eclipse that Posted by FromTheGo, Wed Feb-27-13 12:14 PM
considering he dresses like a fucking clown already.
And you are wrong...
The GOAT path has been Jordan/Iverson/Bron as far as players that changed the game of basketball
Kobestan has never been relevant and they are trying to use the longevity angle...
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2138349, How did Iverson change the game of basketball? Posted by Buck, Wed Feb-27-13 12:26 PM
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2138355, Lots more people got shitty tattoos Posted by Deebot, Wed Feb-27-13 12:30 PM
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2138351, remember when Grant Hill put up crazy numbers? Posted by rl9, Wed Feb-27-13 12:27 PM
do yo u see him get a ring before he retires in a crystal ball?
btw i hope he does.
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2138354, Could be the saddest derailment attempt I've ever seen Posted by Basaglia, Wed Feb-27-13 12:29 PM
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2138388, not supposed to be one. I'm a Grant Hill fan. Posted by rl9, Wed Feb-27-13 12:57 PM
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2138358, Yeah I see it coming. Mfers are all set to crown this clown the GOAT Posted by RaFromQueens, Wed Feb-27-13 12:33 PM
after 2 rings with the super friends.
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2138359, "crown this clown"......I like that Posted by Deebot, Wed Feb-27-13 12:34 PM
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2138367, While he's clearly the best player alive by a good margin... Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Feb-27-13 12:40 PM
... the rings argument means we're still a few years away from this potentially looming. Jordanians and anti-Kobestanis will still be united as long as he's under the 5 ring mark.
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2138372, RE: While he's clearly the best player alive by a good margin... Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Feb-27-13 12:44 PM
>... the rings argument means we're still a few years away >from this potentially looming. Jordanians and anti-Kobestanis >will still be united as long as he's under the 5 ring mark.
I say 3 maybe 4 rings and hes in the convo.
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2138377, No, because ESPN is gonna cyse the shit out of him Posted by Deebot, Wed Feb-27-13 12:47 PM
more than we've ever thought possible.
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2138381, It's crazy when you think about how much they hyped Kobe's 1 MVP ass Posted by RaFromQueens, Wed Feb-27-13 12:51 PM
They're gonna be ignorant af for Bron
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2138410, ESPN has little to do with how the convo on OKS will go. Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Feb-27-13 01:04 PM
I highly doubt anyone here will quote a Sportscenter analyst as proof of Bron's superiority to Air.
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2138486, I guess I just meant in our current culture in general Posted by Deebot, Wed Feb-27-13 02:10 PM
Younger kids, etc.
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2138614, Ion't know Frank Posted by Beamer6178, Wed Feb-27-13 04:42 PM
>I highly doubt anyone here will quote a Sportscenter analyst >as proof of Bron's superiority to Air.
The younger the dudes on here are, the more influenced they are by that shit and the less of a connection they have with what passed. Shit, LBs "youtubed" Jordan's whole career and for a time he tried to make legit arguments between Kobes and Cheese. Imagine a cat ten years YOUNGER.
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2138968, lol FOH, I watched plenty of MJ Posted by LBs Finest, Wed Feb-27-13 11:51 PM
I'm not that young.
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2138380, he's gotta get 3 more to have any claim as GOAT Posted by bshelly, Wed Feb-27-13 12:49 PM
and even that will probably be a stretch.
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2138404, It's comical how "easy" people think it is to win a NBA title Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Feb-27-13 01:01 PM
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2138412, Kobe fell in to a 3peat and Mitch trade-raped him another repeat. Posted by RaFromQueens, Wed Feb-27-13 01:04 PM
Lebron walked over to Wade's table.
Not as hard as it used to be.
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2138496, Because Shaq and Pau had so many titles before Kobe Posted by Cold Truth, Wed Feb-27-13 02:25 PM
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2138758, zactly.. I remember a dominate Shaq getting swept in the NBA finals Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Feb-27-13 09:24 PM
before dat Kobe came along.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
======================================= Occupy Big Government..
Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
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2139274, That 'dominate' Shaq wasn't 00-03 Shaq nm. Posted by RaFromQueens, Thu Feb-28-13 03:54 PM
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2138413, Oh, I realize it's hard as shit. Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Feb-27-13 01:05 PM
Hence why I wasn't remotely close to abandoning ship after he lost with Wade the first time. A title takes the right chemistry, the right efficiency, and the right combination of players.
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2138434, agreed. Bron has miles to go to even see MJ Posted by bshelly, Wed Feb-27-13 01:21 PM
win one this year though and he's basically assured of finishing with a better career than kobe.
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2138436, Didnt really need the airquotes there chief Posted by ErnestLee, Wed Feb-27-13 01:22 PM
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2138437, i'm surprised at how often those are misused. Posted by pretentious username, Wed Feb-27-13 01:24 PM
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2138519, don't you mean "misused" Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Feb-27-13 02:52 PM
i was being "sarcastic" with my use there.
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2138534, sarcastic being in airquotes just blew my mind Posted by pretentious username, Wed Feb-27-13 03:09 PM
is it no longer sarcastic when it's in air quotes? is it double sarcastic? what is double sarcastic?
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2138482, and by then kobe will have retired, the whole dynamic will change Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Feb-27-13 02:01 PM
i guess if there some jordan vs lebronon conflict to come, OK, maybe. that's a complement to lebron.
right now, shit is going good across the board. lakers experiment still a failure until further notce. lebron the kang until further notice. mike been retired a decade, still got kids shooting each other over his sneakers.
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2138375, It Was Written Posted by Bombastic, Wed Feb-27-13 12:45 PM
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2138423, doubtful Posted by pretentious username, Wed Feb-27-13 01:10 PM
Jordanians leave LeBronon pretty soon after Kobe retires (especially if the Bulls stay relevant), but I actually think the Anti-Kobestan brigade sticks around. He's having a better prime than Kobe, but he still has to prove he'll have a better career, so the fight will continue for some time. That or they'll stick with Bron because Kobestan will seek temporary refuge in Durantsylvannia (or whatever it's called these days, it feels like we haven't discussed Durant in ages for some reason).
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2138479, Yeah, there is an outright ethnic cleansing of Kobestan right now Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Feb-27-13 01:59 PM
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2138601, poor durant. Posted by Guinness, Wed Feb-27-13 04:26 PM
he's been incredible this season, but bron's elevation to god-body form and the heat's thrashing of OKC in the finals smothered out any noise of a growing "kev better" agenda. as it should have, since he's not.
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2138966, RE: poor durant. Posted by pretentious username, Wed Feb-27-13 11:45 PM
>he's been incredible this season, but bron's elevation to >god-body form and the heat's thrashing of OKC in the finals >smothered out any noise of a growing "kev better" agenda. as >it should have, since he's not.
yeah, in the most recent OKC-miami matchup espn half-heartedly tried to sell a "who's better?" storyline and i just laughed.
OKC itself just hasn't had a lot of press this year. it's too bad. the underwhelming finals performance and the "they shouldn't have let go harden" storyline have drowned out what is otherwise a great season.
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2138972, Lebron better BUT Posted by J_Stew, Wed Feb-27-13 11:59 PM
OKCs role players let them down, KD and dumb Russy balled as hard as LeBron and Wade in the finals.
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2138489, .... Posted by JAESCOTT777, Wed Feb-27-13 02:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/NHuJ8.gif
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2138674, was Basa the king of the lion fans? Posted by rjc27, Wed Feb-27-13 07:01 PM
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2138675, no Posted by Basaglia, Wed Feb-27-13 07:08 PM
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2139381, NO Posted by RaFromQueens, Thu Feb-28-13 07:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2TdfSwH8g
JUST NO
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2659945, i found this gem...forgot i even posted it. pretty spot on. Posted by Basaglia, Thu May-31-18 09:49 AM
i didn't figure that i'd be defending mike's legacy these days. i thought i'd be out buying a costco cake the first time i heard a talking head say bron is outright better than jordan with no fear.
but...agendas. they change.
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2659957, Much better than Sam’s cake. Posted by Beezo, Thu May-31-18 10:42 AM
>i didn't figure that i'd be defending mike's legacy these >days. i thought i'd be out buying a costco cake the first time >i heard a talking head say bron is outright better than jordan >with no fear. > >but...agendas. they change.
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2659965, lol... Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu May-31-18 11:07 AM
..never change.
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
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2659973, The Kobestan contingent is most interesting IMO Posted by bentagain, Thu May-31-18 11:14 AM
He legit had a shot at the crown
...but yet, in these GOAT convos, you don't hear his name...
it's Bron and Jorn, for folks who aren't collecting social security checks yet
Kobe still gets mentioned with the greats
but when talking about the greatest of all time, his name is absent
Weird how fast that happened.
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2659978, footnote Posted by houston_hardhead, Thu May-31-18 11:56 AM
thats what he is
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2660482, It's still nut ass dudes claiming he is better than LBJ which is insane Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jun-01-18 04:46 PM
With tired arguments about him not being clutch, folding, having cramps lmao lmao lmao. Why can't some infectious disease rid us of these people?
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2660507, well, LBfinest gone Posted by melmag, Sat Jun-02-18 11:26 AM
GOOD!!
>Why can't some infectious disease rid us of these people?
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2660508, well if he hadnt WON so damn much Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Jun-02-18 11:48 AM
no one would ever say anything
unfortunately, hes one of the two most successful basketball players of the last 20 years, an the other one aint Bron either, so...
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2660511, the bulk of his "winning" came as a sidekick. Posted by Vex_id, Sat Jun-02-18 12:17 PM
GOATs aren't sidekicks.
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2660513, ✓✓✓✓✓ Posted by melmag, Sat Jun-02-18 01:16 PM
>GOATs aren't sidekicks.
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2660515, Bron couldnt even wrangle a sidekick chip in 2011 so FOH with that Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Jun-02-18 01:19 PM
winning is winning and losing is losing
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2660516, 8. Posted by Vex_id, Sat Jun-02-18 01:58 PM
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2660521, lmao Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Jun-02-18 03:03 PM
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2660522, lol Posted by Amritsar, Sat Jun-02-18 03:30 PM
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2660524, how vex calculates winning: Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sat Jun-02-18 04:59 PM
http://slideplayer.com/slide/9517552/30/images/6/Lecture+Digital+Systems.+3-to-8+Binary+Decoder.+Try+to+understand+the+logic+circuit+of+3-to-8+binary+decoder+below..jpg
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2659986, cause he never had an argument to begin with Posted by okayplayery, Thu May-31-18 12:19 PM
he was a poor man's version of Jorn, so he can't be equal to Jorn.
the end.
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2660341, Right, GOATs are unique Posted by Cocobrotha2, Fri Jun-01-18 03:59 AM
As great as Kobe was, his game was just too derivative of Jordan’s. Only way to surpass Jordan would’ve been to surpass all of his records accolades.
LeBron has his own lane so he can possibly do some things Jordan didn’t do, surpass Jordan in some ways and then try to substitute 8 straight finals for undefeated in 6 finals.
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2660351, He is the morphing of Jorn and Bubba Chuck. Posted by Castro, Fri Jun-01-18 07:52 AM
An all time great but not a GOAT.
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2660460, Kobe is boring now Posted by soundsop, Fri Jun-01-18 02:52 PM
You can't really argue that he's not top 10-ish.
You can't really argue that he's top 3-ish.
#2 all time 2. His place is pretty settled and not really worth arguing about.
He's the 13th best player ever! Fuck you, he's the 8th best player ever! Who gives a shit.
Unlike Iverstania, Kobestania realized it was a losing battle and didn't move on as heavily into proxy wars.
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2660483, exactly, put him somewhere between like 7 and 12, wgaf? Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jun-01-18 04:48 PM
The best ever maybe the top 5 are the only interesting arguments.
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2660475, Meanwhile Jabbarwocks remain unfazed Posted by PG, Fri Jun-01-18 04:34 PM
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2660484, an aging but reslient population. Wiltkanda remains mythic, powerful Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Fri Jun-01-18 04:48 PM
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2660506, I was born there, moved to Kobestan in 2009 Posted by Dr Claw, Sat Jun-02-18 10:44 AM
now I'm looking for a rental property in LeBronon because shit's getting rather unstable at my home
if the rent is too damn high I'm gonna have to run to North Kyriea and pledge solidarity with LeBronon whilst not forgetting my Jabbarwocky roots
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