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2136718, can we talk about this NASCAR accident aka the Daytona 500 post
Posted by bentagain, Sun Feb-24-13 12:59 PM
this shit is just getting under my skin

media outlets have been running with the Danica angle all week

and I would expect the ratings to see a bump

but let's be real people

these crashes are the reason people watch

what's bothering me

is every interview, narrative, commentary, etc...

these dudes are almost congratulatory that nobody died

well congratufuckinglations dipshits

you still sent 30 something people to the hospital

I mean, who are these people that go to these races knowing their health is at risk in doing so

if catching a baseball at a game meant I could die, I don't think I would go

watch NASCAR get the highest ratings ever after all of this BS
2136720, it's weird and something I do not understand.
Posted by smutsboy, Sun Feb-24-13 01:07 PM
at all.
2136721, Im not watching (never have)
Posted by CherNic, Sun Feb-24-13 01:14 PM
But the GALL of them to not even consider calling the race...and admitting it well before the two most seriously injured people were upgraded...poor taste
2136722, i saw some of the pictures and i was like "why did they take dude's shirt off"
Posted by rob, Sun Feb-24-13 01:14 PM
he had leg injuries...no medical reason to do it....either endangering him or ruining a shirt

then i realized no body in the crowd was wearing a shirt.

i can not understand that shit at all. being in the crowd in the summer must be unbearable.
2136723, its not for you.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Feb-24-13 01:42 PM
or me.
2136727, i'm in the crowd that just doesn't get burning all that gas.
Posted by Nodima, Sun Feb-24-13 01:56 PM
and wrecking all those parts all the time. even not in crashes, things just constantly wearing out and getting junked.


it's no fun at all to watch, the culture surrounding it isn't all that enticing and even if they're using a lot of proprietary parts and energy that aren't on regular markets it still seems wasteful to me.


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2136731, like that tomato fight. I thought to myself, they sure are wasting
Posted by bentagain, Sun Feb-24-13 02:08 PM
a lot of food

I never thought of the gas though
2136729, business just picked up.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 02:03 PM
harvick/stewart/keslowski/montoya/kahne all just wrecked.

danica's sexy to me.
2136732, RE: danica was sexy to me
Posted by bentagain, Sun Feb-24-13 02:11 PM
10 years ago

seems like she been on for a long ass time

and ain't done shit

they might have to let her get one

just to keep her fanbase interested for the next 10

even those godaddy ads got faded
2136789, she's got bedroom eyes.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:24 PM
2136740, Crashes are the reason the casual fan watches.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 02:53 PM
real diehard NASCAR fans who sit out there in their RVs all weekend during race weekends don't spend all that money just to watch their favorite driver smash into a wall.....



You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136741, And by the way, Danica just made history.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 02:55 PM
first woman to lead a lap in a Cup series race....



You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136782, shit, she's in it, yo...
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:13 PM
2136798, she won't be happy abt 8th.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:41 PM
so close for so much of the race....
2136759, I've got it on now. NASCAR is desperate for a boost.
Posted by Virgenes Corazon, Sun Feb-24-13 03:25 PM
Attendance and ratings were down in 2012.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2012-11-21/nascar-tv-ratings-decline-fox-espn-tnt-daytona-500-olympics

You would think that if attendance was down that ratings would go up a bit but that hasn't happened.
NASCAR's attempted innovations, like the "Car of Tomorrow" (a boxier car meant for safer, closer competition used from 2007-12) and the Chase for the Cup (making a points system that only allowed the top 12 in the standings to win the championship even though races still feature 43 cars) have pushed away a chunk of the hardcore crowd.

Hell, some people probably miss when they called it the Winston Cup. Certainly they don't like this little no-winning hussy Patrick being shoved down their throats as a new star. Especially when they've got two developmental leagues full of drivers trying to push into the big time.

2136838, America should hijack the Aussie V8 Supercar series
Posted by DolphinTeef, Sun Feb-24-13 06:13 PM
do in-town street courses (like Long Beach GP ).
2136765, I like NASCAR.
Posted by Buck, Sun Feb-24-13 03:33 PM
2136783, all of the toyota engines are blowing up.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:14 PM
it's crazy, w/w the new cars getting intro'd today-
2136786, LOL, they were all in the top four now they're all shut down.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 04:20 PM

You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136790, karma for kurt busch' bitch ass.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:24 PM
2136791, loooool
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Feb-24-13 04:26 PM
2136793, This has been a good ass race....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 04:28 PM

You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136797, i'm tired of watching jimmie win.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:39 PM
props.
2136801, I've been a real casual watcher for years....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 04:42 PM
never watched an entire race before today, so I dont know who's been the biggest winners and what not, maybe now I have a sport that will get me through the long stretch between the Final Four and NFL preseason.....



You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136802, U golf?
Posted by Ceej, Sun Feb-24-13 04:44 PM
2136808, Nope, never played other than putt putt.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 04:48 PM

You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136807, well, i was speaking in general-
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:47 PM
JJ hasn't been dominating so much as of late, so i guess i meant that on some "he already got his".
2136794, Apparently lil Ceej loves NASCAR
Posted by Ceej, Sun Feb-24-13 04:31 PM
Dude is goin crazy watchin this mess
2136799, lmao @ danica
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Feb-24-13 04:41 PM
went from 3rd to 8th in one turn.
2136800, She got bodied right there
Posted by Ceej, Sun Feb-24-13 04:42 PM
2136804, all & all still a HUGE accomplishment-
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:44 PM
2136806, Women did work this weekend.
Posted by Ceej, Sun Feb-24-13 04:46 PM
2136803, Probably thought a caution was coming on the final lap
Posted by Virgenes Corazon, Sun Feb-24-13 04:44 PM
And Martin and Earnhardt, Jr. pushed her out of the way.
2136805, not if she knows the rules.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Sun Feb-24-13 04:45 PM
-they won't call caution on the final lap if the lane ahead is clear.
2136823, yep
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-24-13 05:15 PM
.
2136810, Yeah they clowned her at the end.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Feb-24-13 04:49 PM

You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2136825, what happened with jeff Gordon?
Posted by SeV, Sun Feb-24-13 05:20 PM

____________

Dallas Heatvricks BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!!
2136826, good race today..
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-24-13 05:20 PM
excited about this season. As someone who follows NASCAR and has been to an event, I will say it's impossible to appreciate it properly on tv. I disagree that crashes are the reason people watch. Maybe casual fans, but not folk who actually get into the racing aspect.
2136830, LOL...50 on that creep life...
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-24-13 05:39 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/50-cent-goes-erin-andrews-kiss-gets-denied-192555935--nascar.html
2136876, lol at him just following her
Posted by BennyTenStack, Sun Feb-24-13 08:23 PM
2136877, 40 posts in a NASCAR thread=record
Posted by bshelly, Sun Feb-24-13 08:31 PM
2136953, dammit. mark martin just missed again
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Feb-25-13 06:06 AM

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2136955, cosign
Posted by bshelly, Mon Feb-25-13 07:27 AM
2136992, another thing that bothers me about NASCAR are the agendas
Posted by bentagain, Mon Feb-25-13 10:04 AM
that are being pushed in other sports

why does NASCAR get a pass on

racism

and

player safety

2137001, Er...
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 10:14 AM
>racism

Slowly getting better.

>and
>
>player safety

What?
2137004, the player safety agenda has been grabbing headlines for the past
Posted by bentagain, Mon Feb-25-13 10:21 AM
couple of seasons in the NFL

concussions and early onset of dementia

really don't compare to death

I feel like stories of drivers and even fans being killed appear every year

yet...

and as a boxing fan

there was even some talk about banning the sport because it was too violent

yet...

feel free to elaborate on the racism issue improving

are you talking about fans or drivers?
2137009, There hasn't been a death in NASCAR since 2001.
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 10:26 AM
As a direct result of improved safety regulations instituted after that year.

>I feel like stories of drivers and even fans being killed
>appear every year

They don't. You're imagining this.

As a result of Saturday's crash, NASCAR will examine what happened to the catch fence and find ways to make improvements. Something went wrong with the tire tether (which is supposed to keep tires from leaving the vehicle) and the catch fence failed. NASCAR will make improvements, guaranteed.

>feel free to elaborate on the racism issue improving
>
>are you talking about fans or drivers?

Well, which are you talking about?
2137012, google says different
Posted by bentagain, Mon Feb-25-13 10:34 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASCAR_fatal_accidents

Eight drivers died in the 1950s and 1960s; five in the 1970s; thirteen in the 1980s; ten in the 1990s, eight in the 2000s

no deaths this decade...yet

the 70s is interesting though

only 5

?
2137014, Those are regional feeder series. They are not NASCAR.
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 10:37 AM
You need to understand what you're talking about. Basically you've just said, "there was a death in AAU. Why doesn't the NBA do something about it?"
2137186, you really kind of are a hillbilly huh
Posted by cereffusion, Mon Feb-25-13 01:47 PM
2137191, I'm a little bit country and a little bit rock 'n' roll.
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 01:53 PM
2137022, what? Who's gotten killed since Dale Sr?
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-25-13 10:55 AM
.
2137007, RE: another thing that bothers me about NASCAR are the agendas
Posted by Frank Mackey, Mon Feb-25-13 10:24 AM

>and
>
>player safety


You saw that car that got cut in half Saturday. That guy casually got out of the car and walked away without a scratch. I'd say NASCAR is doing pretty well on the safety front.
2137010, This is the one that gets me:
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 10:29 AM
http://youtu.be/1kdKzFMh-rU

McDonald got out and walked away. No serious injuries.
2140202, They had that car on display at the NASCAR Hall of Fame....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sat Mar-02-13 08:34 PM
they had a special exhibit on some of NASCAR's worst wrecks....

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/526592_696356484786_1245194377_n.jpg





You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2140262, but real fans don't care about wrecks...?
Posted by bentagain, Sun Mar-03-13 10:13 AM
2140331, Of course they care about wrecks....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Mar-03-13 01:49 PM
but they don't spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars to drive their RV to a track, camp out for 3-4 days, sit in the hot ass sun drinking beer just to watch their favorite driver run into the wall on the third lap. Stop being dense.....



You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2137112, you have no idea what youre talking about. stop.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Feb-25-13 12:41 PM
2137120, RE: thanks for the education
Posted by bentagain, Mon Feb-25-13 12:47 PM
nowhere did I say I did

I actually don't know shit about NASCAR, or racing in general

the little exposure I do have is from the media coverage, hype, etc...

thus the reason for the post

but as 50 stated in a post above

I don't see any black people

I guess that's Okay for NASCAR, just not the other major sports

and like I said

what other sport are spectators in danger by attending?

I guess that's Okay for NASCAR, as long as nobody is dying...

anymore

MFers gettin real defensive

then school me
2137124, http://images.tvrage.com/people/60/179993.jpg
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 12:49 PM
http://images.tvrage.com/people/60/179993.jpg
2137134, http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/26002590.jpg
Posted by bentagain, Mon Feb-25-13 12:57 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/26002590.jpg
2139765, MTV: Jeremy Clements uttered slur
Posted by bentagain, Fri Mar-01-13 01:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/nationwide/story/_/id/9002360/jeremy-clements-used-racial-slur-conversation-website-confirms
2139777, Some redneck from South Carolina said the n-word.
Posted by Buck, Fri Mar-01-13 02:07 PM
Now, is your beef more with pervasive racism in NASCAR's junior series, or with rednecks from South Carolina?
2140072, nah, just some observations
Posted by bentagain, Sat Mar-02-13 10:06 AM
I find it strange that this was just brushed aside

no big deal

nothing to see here

BECAUSE it's NASCAR

is there another sport where this wouldn't be a bigger story?
2140077, Well, I'm not sure what you want to happen to him.
Posted by Buck, Sat Mar-02-13 11:14 AM
>I find it strange that this was just brushed aside

It was covered by all the major sports news outlets, and NASCAR has suspended him indefinitely. What more do you want to happen?

>no big deal
>
>nothing to see here
>
>BECAUSE it's NASCAR

Again, they suspended him indefinitely. What do you want? Shoudl he be shot dead by firing squad? Hanged in the town square?

>is there another sport where this wouldn't be a bigger story?

It's probably not a bigger story because nobody knows who he is. I mean, I follow NASCAR, but I don't even know who he is. Some back-of-the-pack nobody in the Nationwide Series.

What you're doing right now is equivalent to complaining about a racist remark made by somebody in the Arena Football League. Yes, it's bad, but it's the fucking Arena League.
2140261, so 30 people are injured at a race and a driver makes a racist comment
Posted by bentagain, Sun Mar-03-13 10:13 AM
but those ARE NOT reasons to think NASCAR has safety and race issues

cool story!
2140266, You're saying racism caused the fans to get injured, or vice-versa?
Posted by Buck, Sun Mar-03-13 10:24 AM
Either way, you're pretty fucking stupid.
2140335, You act like that shit happens every week.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Sun Mar-03-13 01:54 PM
if happened every week, then you could say they have safety issues and race issues....




You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....
2140287, a 13 year old girl was killed at a hockey game a couple years back
Posted by KosherSam, Sun Mar-03-13 11:52 AM
2137011, Danica lost $500,000 in FIVE seconds
Posted by deejboram, Mon Feb-25-13 10:34 AM
payout for 3rd place (where she was) is $800,000
payout for 8th place (where she finished) is $300,000

not to mention differing point totals
she's still dead last in the points rankings
but she got more ESPN interview time than Jimmie Johnson (San Diego kid by the way)

i had a post up a while ago asking how/why is she even still relevant given that she's never won shit (after all these years)
2137024, I really doubt that even matters
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-25-13 10:57 AM
I am sure she is getting grossly overpaid by sponsors.
2137025, i think some of that money goes to her team/car owner as well
Posted by deejboram, Mon Feb-25-13 11:00 AM
>I am sure she is getting grossly overpaid by sponsors.

if a horse/jockey loses that much in a horse race then the owner feels it as well.
2137028, yep...it hurt the nigga who works the jack much more than Danika...
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-25-13 11:09 AM
he don't get shit from Go Daddy.
2137032, Very true, great point., didnt think about that
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-25-13 11:17 AM
Yes that sucks for rear wheel jacker guy.
2137044, dude jacks wheels for a living
Posted by debo40oz, Mon Feb-25-13 11:36 AM
he is winning at life if you ask me.
2137051, I'm sure if thats dudes thing hes havin a good time
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-25-13 11:50 AM
2137052, yeah until you get run over by a NAS car
Posted by deejboram, Mon Feb-25-13 11:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr4DkT2vsec

they make between $30k and $100k tho
but i'm sure them extra $5k or $10k they would receive if she wouldnt have fucked that up would be a LOT of natty light in their fridges today!
2137053, They have to get some piece from the sponsors, no??
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-25-13 11:55 AM
I mean they wear all that shit too
2137079, honestly, i doubt it
Posted by deejboram, Mon Feb-25-13 12:16 PM
it's like the Heat towel boys getting a check from nike because they wipe up lebrons sweat

i think jackman positions are kind of a "good ol boy" job
you get it from WHO you knoow
not just because yo're qualified

i really wonder how all their checks shake out tho:
jackman
tire man
windshield wiper guy
fuel cannister guy
sheetmetal guy
all the mechanics
machine shop guys

i'm sure a #1 (or even a pole position) in nascar is like a playoff win in NFL/NBA whereby you get team bonus checks
2137081, Yea that would make sense if the towel boy was on the team, hes not
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-25-13 12:17 PM
>it's like the Heat towel boys getting a check from nike
>because they wipe up lebrons sweat
>

Rear Jackman IS on the team.
2137084, If y'all are actually interested in the subject...
Posted by Buck, Mon Feb-25-13 12:20 PM
Steve Matchett, currently an F1 commentator on Speed, wrote a book about his life as an F1 mechanic. Not NASCAR, but the paths are similar.

http://www.amazon.com/Mechanics-Tale-Life-Pit-Lanes-Formula/dp/0752827839/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1361812681&sr=1-1&keywords=steve+matchett
2137119, yeah im really interested...
Posted by deejboram, Mon Feb-25-13 12:45 PM
because i know guys that do local circle track racing
in like ford pintos and whatnots
building engines in their garages

i wonder if they ride the coattails of a driver up through the ranks into NASCAR?

or if Rick Hendrick's grandson wants to be a jackman for a summer so Hendrick puts him on the NASCAR truck series crew?