Worthy read..while I think Wall does have a feel for the game a lot of his comments ring true...

Small snippet

A Wizards season ticket holder, Falk added: “You guys are in dreamland. Because this team so bad you guys want John Wall to be someone he will never be.

“Before Wall becomes Nene, I would trade him and get rid of him.”

Come on, really?

“I’m serious. He doesn’t have a feel for the game,” Falk said. “He only knows how to play one speed. Magic Johnson had a great feel, a court sense, by the time he was a sophomore in college. Chris Paul had it by the time he was a sophomore in high school.

full read here : onpost.com/sports/wizards/agent-david-falk-slams-john-wall-washington-wizards/2013/02/14/8916545c-7614-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_story.html

Who's next on speaking the John Wall topic?

Mark Paul Gosselar?

going nowhere, why does everyone have an opinion of him?

Yet he comes out for this?

Basically every couple years he goes ahead and bashes whatever the Wiz are doing.

MAD

i know they beat the knicks and some good teams.

Wins over the Clips, Nets, Knicks, Bulls, Nuggets. Two very odd last second losses to the Kings though. Wiz were 5-28 without him. Randomly compare that to another young point guard, like I dont know, let's say Kyrie Irving for instance, who has 14 wins on the entire season.

let's say Kyrie Irving for instance, who has 14 wins on the entire season.

*brandon knight got more wins than kyrie, by the way. because your point makes sense.

can't shoot and droppin 14 and 6...you a PG

scoring 15-17 ppg, shooting over 45% but droppin 6 dimes...you a PG...specifically, you're tony parker for the vast majority of his career.

score an inefficient 22+ and drop 6 dimes on bad teams...you a combo guard...and aball hog

score an efficient 22+ and drop 6 dimes on bad team...this is new territory and we just gonna default to combo guard and ballhog, because we not used to a young nigga being this polished, surrounded by scrubs.

>i know they beat the knicks and some good teams.

of teams that aren't contenders, but don't suck like detroit, philly and orlando.

They might be the worst at this point.

The Knicks are clearly one of the better teams in the East, I'll say in the same class as Chi (currently), Bos and Indiana

are contenders.

Nobody else is close.

“You want to know the reason why just nine teams have won an NBA title in 40 years? Because if both of them came out today, 99 percent of all general managers would still take John Wall instead of Kyrie Irving. They’d take the athlete over the ballplayer. And they’d be wrong.”

Nobody is taking Wall over Irving right today. And you know that. So stop talking out of your ass.

>“You want to know the reason why just nine teams have won an NBA title in 40 years? Because if both of them came out today, 99 percent of all general managers would still take John Wall instead of Kyrie Irving. They’d take the athlete over the ballplayer. And they’d be wrong.”

And that's not a slam against Wall's potential. It just is what it is.

It's a typical blowhard move - take a point that makes sense and blow it out of proportion and act like you see the truth.

On draft day, people will always sleep on a Paul Millsap type and drool over a Ty Thomas but to act like people don't now see the difference in Irving and Wall is silly. And Falk is no different; I'm sure he chases the Ty Thomas's rather than trying to sign the better players like Millsap.

has taught us to do so.

You absolutely should have taken Dwight over Okafor, Westbrook over Augustin, Bynum over Sean May...etc

Every year there are these guys that come out with "polish" or "innate IQ" or whatever word they try to use for when a player has seen his ceiling. Its an intellectually dishonest criticism imo

Most of these uber-athletic guys fail because they are idiots and/or don't work. JJ Hickson went from untradeable to dumped and is now starting to put it together.

There are some guys you just know are never going to put it together but they still go high in the draft.

>“You want to know the reason why just nine teams have won an
>NBA title in 40 years? Because if both of them came out today,
>99 percent of all general managers would still take John Wall
>instead of Kyrie Irving. They’d take the athlete over the
>ballplayer. And they’d be wrong.”
>
>Nobody is taking Wall over Irving right today. And you know
>that. So stop talking out of your ass.
>


...and they'd still do that today.

still, i can't believe he had that convo on the record; i don't think Mike Wise is getting any more interviews with the Bird of Prey.

Wise said "It turns out David Falk didn’t want anonymity. He just wanted to go off on Wall."

he just wanted to get at Wall..hes just a MAD season ticket holder

>“You want to know the reason why just nine teams have won an
>NBA title in 40 years? Because if both of them came out today,
>99 percent of all general managers would still take John Wall
>instead of Kyrie Irving. They’d take the athlete over the
>ballplayer. And they’d be wrong.”
>
>Nobody is taking Wall over Irving right today. And you know
>that. So stop talking out of your ass.

Only thing I really agree with is that Wall maybe isn't an ELITE player.

And by ELITE, I mean one of the top 5 best players in the league that is untradeable.

He can be ELITE AT HIS POSITION easily.

I feel he can be great. At least as good as T. Parker in terms of effectiveness and being a good point guard.

I think he's totally off base with the "he only plays at one speed" thing. He obviously hasn't watched a game this year, cause Wall is being way more patient and picks his spots more.

He's half-right about the Ariza/Okafor trade, only because that trade is just now starting to pay off mid-season. But during that 5-28 stretch? Yeesh. But Brand is old and sucks now anyways.

Nene does worry me, only because even though he's putting up 20-10 type numbers, he stays hurt and ain't getting any younger. We really need to either draft/trade for/sign that one player that makes us a year in/year out playoff contender.

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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
-unknown

"To Each His Reach"

I'm glad John brushed that shit off when they asked for a response.

For him to generate this much hate
He'll never be anything? Isn't he like 22-23 years old? I'm not gonna say he's gonna be a GOAT PG, but it's still pretty early in his career to declare him a never-was

that is his best model for maximum success.

there are so many intrinsic skillsets that dudes just do not wanna admit to.

all y'all accept as "either you got it you or you don't" is ATHLETICISM.

Wall can't work on a post-up game?

Wall can't improve as a stopper and improve his shot?

lotta focus on what Wall is not; if you focus on what he is, you'd notice that GP is the template for Wall to reach his ceiling.


>RE: what's that gonna do for him?
>there are so many intrinsic skillsets that dudes just do not
>wanna admit to.
>
>all y'all accept as "either you got it you or you don't" is
>ATHLETICISM.
>

wall got none of GP's craftiness with the ball in tight space.

wall ain't got GP's mean streak.

wall ain't got GP's motor.

he got 4.4 speed and a 38 inch vertical and a willingness to pass the ball that will reach rondonian levels if he loses any more confidence in his jumper.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/gary-payton-says-hes-been-talking-to-john-wall-about-succeeding-in-nba/

Gary Payton says he’s been talking to John Wall about succeeding in NBA


Kurt Helin
Jan 17, 2013, 9:11 AM EST

We remember Gary Payton as “The Glove.” One of the great perimeter defenders in NBA history, a guy who locked horns with Michael Jordan for some memorable battles, including the 1996 NBA finals. Payton the guy that could do it on the other end as well, a floor general who averaged 16.7 points a game over his career. A guy who just got a call to say he was nominated for the Hall of Fame.

We don’t remember him as Gary Payton the guy who struggled the first few years in Seattle. But he did.

“First of all I struggled for three years,” said Payton, speaking as part of the Thuzio launch in Los Angeles. “Really for two years, and then when George Karl got there (to Seattle) my struggles ended because I got a basketball coach that let me do what I wanted to do.”

John Wall has struggled his first couple seasons in the league. Not that he was bad — 16.3 points and 8 assists per game last season — but he wasn’t the No. 1 overall pick, franchise anchor kind of guy the Wizards expected. That Wall expected to be.

To get help, Wall has reached out to Payton to learn how to overcome those struggles, how to fit his game into the NBA and succeed

“Me and him have talked a lot on the phone,” Payton told ProBasketballTalk. “He has called me about the situation, the same situation (I was in) to learn about things, and I’ve been talking to him about things and I’ve been talking to him a lot….

“With John Wall I think he understood that he has to get better and he has to go work out and he has to go improve on those things. I think if he knows he’s not good at something, he’ll go workout at it. And that’s what I respect a lot about him and a lot about his game. And I know he’s going to get better because I know he’s got the mentality that he wants to get better, he wants to learn from other people, he wants to take advice from people and he wants to get better.”

What he needs to get better on is his jump shot — last season he shot 27.4 percent beyond 10 feet and he took more than six shots from there a game. Defenses could play back, go under the pick, dare him to beat them with an outside shot. Wall is lightning quick with the ball, dangerous in transition, but could be contained in the half court because of his jumper.

This season, back just three games from a knee injury that kept him out of training camp and nearly half the regular season, it’s too early to say if that shot has developed. But Payton is convinced Wall will get there.

“With John, he’s a kid that wants to learn and that’s the good thing about him,” Payton said. “He can sit there and listen and take criticism, and call players that he’s watched in his young years to ask for assistance. Some of these kids now days think they are so good that they can’t ask anybody for anything,”

Payton hasn’t gotten to a Wizards game this season, he is on the other coast right now. He is very busy with charity foundations, writing a book, working with Nike on the re-launch of “The Glove” shoe this fall (we’ll have more from our Payton interview over the next couple days). And he is working with Thuzio in Los Angles, a company that allows people and corporations to book events or dinners — or even pick-up games — with famous former athletes like Payton.

But he’s also watching Wall — a guy that the Wizards can extend this summer from his rookie deal. The Wizards have a decision to make, if they don’t extend him Wall becomes a restricted free agent in the summer of 2014. They don’t want to lose him, especially if he is going to become the player Gary Payton thinks he can be.

And Payton should know, he’s been there.

and i've read the subsequent plea cop from wall fans tryna compre him to payton when they NEVER did before...it was all rose and westbrook...john wall was the next one of THOSE guys. now, he GP?

aight

1.)GP better than those guys.

2.)I've never said that.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/302471347978784770

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/302472105205837824

https://twitter.com/poemcees/status/156494303617753089

can't find it, but GP's reply was 'yes he do'

He's never gonna be GP.

You just have to want to defend. And try hard. Some natural tools help like foot speed, reflexes and instinct, but you can become a good defender.

But I agree. Wall will never be a defender as great as GP. But he can become a better defender and potentially a lockdown type guy.

to move his feet, because he never had to.

THIS YEAR right?

They're winning more games now,though, because of his scoring and play-making.