Welp, that kinda sucked. So close and yet so far. We got doomed by poor play in the first half and shitty play-calling on the final three plays of the game. And yes, the refereeing was kinda suspect, but we had many a chance to rise above that and didn't. So it goes.

On to the next season. The good news? Almost all of our contributors are certainly returning, and the good ones are getting better. Kaep is still reaching his potential. For the first half of the SB, he looked very much like a guy starting his 10th NFL game, but he brought the ruckus in the second half. Crabtree has turned the corner and will continue to get better. James will continue to improve. Our D didn't quite look like our D for a little over half the game, but I don't see it slipping in the season to come.

The bad news? The NFC West isn't getting any easier. Seahawks are on the come up. The Rams are improving. The Cardinals really just need any competent QB to make them competitive. So we can't just rest on our laurels right now.

Off-season priorites: First, trade Alex Smith if we can. Looks doable, as apparently the Chiefs and the Browns are interested. I'd be fine with him on either of those squads. Second, draft some defensive players. Yeah, we're strong, but our key guys played LOTS of snaps during the season. And by the time the play-offs came, a lot were hurt and exhausted. And seeing as we may lose Goldson, we gotta keep the talent pool fresh. Third, probably pick up another WR. Moss is certainly gone, so we need another option.

So, that's it in broad strokes. Sucks we couldn't make it, but we have the talent and ability to be back next year. So let's make it happpen.

Niner Nation... we are in mourning. I know I am still trying to wrap my head around that game...

The Good: -Our offensive line is a force. Our offense will be a force because of it. They stay relatively healthy, and is a pretty young unit.

-Kendall Hunter, Mario Manningham, Kyle Williams, Parys Haralson will all be back next season.

-Colin Kaepernick. If he improves at the trajectory that we'd expect a QB with his potential to improve...10 starts in.. we will be talking about him as a top 5-10 QB in the entire league in a couple years.

-Michael Crabtree has become that guy I partied over dropping to us in the 2009 draft.

-Patrick Willis, Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks are all under 30.

The Bad: -Justin Smith and Frank Gore aren't getting any younger.

-Greg Roman has double agent tendencies

-The cats out of the bag...Our secondary can be had.

Free Agents: Dashon Goldson, Issac Sopoaga, Delanie Walker, Randy Moss, Ricky Jean Francois, Ted Ginn Jr., Larry Grant, Clark Haggans, Leonard Davis, Tavares Gooden, Tramaine Brock, Darcell McBath

Who should we re-sign?
What are our needs?
What are we looking for in the draft?
Justin Smith surgery?

and everybody's favorite topic...What will happen with Alex Smith?

Fuck this: I'm ready for week 1

not sure theres 5 I'd take over him right now

as a Jet fan, I wanna keep Revis, but I gotta say, if theres 1 team I'm calling to see if they have are willing to pay a King's Ransom it's SF... Jim Harbaugh knows with Revis on his side they win that game last night no doubt and don't get torched by Julio Jones so badly vs Atlanta

I say fuck that. If we had one guy any where near Revis level...hell, if we had the last season Carlos Rogers..we'd be partying right now.

But either way we still have to address safety from a cover standpoint.. Whitner blew a coverage too but Goldson acted like he didn't even know what half the plays were and instead stayed focused on diving head first into piles.. I'm sorry I know y'all love him but I'm done with this cat. can't have two hard hitting safeties without one that's above average in coverage.. just can't. And I damn sure don't want Whitner to go anywhere.
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>The Good: -Our offensive line is a force. Our offense will be
>a force because of it. They stay relatively healthy, and is a
>pretty young unit.

Yep. I hope we are grooming or preparing to draft Goodwin's replacement.

>-Kendall Hunter, Mario Manningham, Kyle Williams, Parys
>Haralson will all be back next season.

I hope Hunter still has his burst. Our future Hunter/James backfield looked really promising as Gore fades.


>-Colin Kaepernick. If he improves at the trajectory that we'd
>expect a QB with his potential to improve...10 starts in.. we
>will be talking about him as a top 5-10 QB in the entire
>league in a couple years.

I think we can all agree Kaep is going to be exceptional. I think he's probably in the 5-10 range already. His mistakes--and there were some big ones--this post-season were all inexperienced rookie mistakes that are going to get better with more coaching and experience. At 25 he's playing about as good as Steve Young did at 29.


>-Patrick Willis, Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks are
>all under 30.

Aldon Smith is 23. And he better work on some additional moves this off-season. Maybe it was injury, but it looked like opposing teams figured him out by the end of the year.


>The Bad: -Justin Smith and Frank Gore aren't getting any
>younger.

Biggest heartbreak of last night was Gore not getting his ring. He might still be on the team if/when we win one, but unlikely he'll be The Man on that team. Pretty sure if he takes one in on that last drive for his 2nd TD, he's Super Bowl MVP.


>-Greg Roman has double agent tendencies

He and Harbaugh need to sit down and script their situational plays better. And Harbaugh needs to be more forceful about overruling. He admitted he didn't like that stupid pitch call from the Rams game but he went with it anyway. I have a feeling he was not crazy about those goal-line calls either, but he's ultimately responsible.

It will help having a full off-season and playbook designed around Kaep, rather than one designed around Smith and hastily adjusted for Kaep mid-season.


>-The cats out of the bag...Our secondary can be had.

Yep. Especially with a mediocre pass rush.


>Free Agents: Dashon Goldson, Issac Sopoaga, Delanie Walker,
>Randy Moss, Ricky Jean Francois, Ted Ginn Jr., Larry Grant,
>Clark Haggans, Leonard Davis, Tavares Gooden, Tramaine Brock,
>Darcell McBath

Gotta think we've seen the last of Moss, Ginn, Davis, and Brock.

Depending on who they plan on picking up in draft/FA we may have seen the last of Goldson and Walker.


>What are we looking for in the draft?

-D-line. J-Smith and Sop are old and declining pretty fast. No way Smith should play as many snaps next year.

-A kicker.

-Safety

-A TE hybrid to potentially replace Delanie.


>and everybody's favorite topic...What will happen with Alex
>Smith?

Hope it's the Chiefs. Andy knows QBs and it's a good fan/media environment. Plus, the long tradition of 49ers QBs going to die in Kansas City (Montana, Grbac, Bono).

>The Bad: -Justin Smith and Frank Gore aren't getting any
>younger.

I figure we've got our running game set. We're deep enough at the position to keep Gore as fresh as possible for a play-off run.

>-Greg Roman has double agent tendencies

Well, we certainly need better redzone plays. Him and Harbuagh need to work that shit out and start right plays exclusively for Kaep.

>-The cats out of the bag...Our secondary can be had.

Last night there was definite room for improvement, that's for sure. Culliver looked awful. On the other hand, Flacco just made some tosses that no one should have been able to catch, yet Boldin and Jones somehow did.

>Free Agents: Dashon Goldson, Issac Sopoaga, Delanie Walker,
>Randy Moss, Ricky Jean Francois, Ted Ginn Jr., Larry Grant,
>Clark Haggans, Leonard Davis, Tavares Gooden, Tramaine Brock,
>Darcell McBath

Of those, we need Sopoga and Walker. Walker won't be expensive, so I think he can re-sign him without that much of an issue. I like Goldson, but I'm not ready to break the bank for him. We can find a cheaper free-agent stop-gap and draft his eventual replacement.

>What are our needs?

D-Line. Kicker. Maybe a safety. A kicker we can get via free-agent.

>What are we looking for in the draft?

See above, but I say go for the D-Line. Maybe another WR.

>Justin Smith surgery?

Hope not, but it may be necessary.

>and everybody's favorite topic...What will happen with Alex
>Smith?

Well, hopefully we trade him to the Chiefs. Maybe the Browns; him and Norv working together again would be good for Alex. Regardless, I'd rather not let him hit the open market and let him get picked up by the Cardinals.

Still feeling good about our prospects for the future.

Chill

All I said was chill with the comparison..
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Kap's explosiveness makes Frank Gore more replaceable. Obviously get what you can get for Alex Smith. Jim's a really good coach, he's kinda hoe-ish though. Not much that can be done about that. I'd like to think you guys will be back pretty soon.

bad playcalling at the end, and refball didn't help.

i really hope they remain competitive next season, but you never know what can happen, and there's always the opportunity for injuries.

i don't think the secondary is really bad; it's just they kind of get picked apart by good QBs when they play zone because the front 4 does have difficulty getting pressure at times.

Last night was painful.

Would love to keep Goldson if we can make the money work, but I guess I should preparing myself in the event that we can't.

The team's in pretty good shape otherwise.

the big hits don't compensate for the absolute liability he is in coverage

Whitner brings a better combo of coverage and physical play.. pair him with a young cover safety and we good
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We did it all to ourselves. I said i thought we'd shoot ourselves in the foot with a James or Gore fumble and a Kap pick.. but that we would still be able to over come it. What I didn't expect was we'd give up a return too and give up so many big pays. I'm really down on our defense this morning... the missed tackles, the dumb penalties, miss assignments.. very disappointed in them dudes right now.

The offense did pretty much what I felt the could coming in... I figured the Ravens would try and stop the run first which would create space for our passing game.. after exploiting that we could come back to the run.. and that ended up being exactly what we did. Still wasn't enough due to the slim margin of error we left ourselves with.

Let me make it clear that Kap played great for a guy in this 10th start... but I can't help but find some irony in the fact he audibled into that 4th down fade basically losing the game with his head.. our old QB's strong suit.

It just sucks period.. bring on the A's
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No it didn't

I mean how you not gonna give Gore the ball at least a couple times down there? Even if he doesn't get in on the first carry, it forces the Ravens to call TO or the clock runs.. giving them less time if the 9ers do score. Just puzzling all the way around... but the 4th down was on Kap. It's spots like that where you need your QB to make the right read and adjustment... he's doing great for a guy with this little on field experience... but it's an area he's going to have to get better in... and I think he will
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>I'm really down on our defense this morning...
>the missed tackles, the dumb penalties, miss assignments..
>very disappointed in them dudes right now.

But the missed tackles killed me. We gave Flacco to much time to scramble and make some incredible passes. One time it seemed like Brooks just stopped instead of going after Flacco; I guess he thought the play got whistled dead, but it was still dumb. Culliver getting beat badly sucked. And it was inexcusable that on that 109-yd run-back, dude ran right through our coverage, and McBath was the only person that even touched him.

>Let me make it clear that Kap played great for a guy in this
>10th start... but I can't help but find some irony in the fact
>he audibled into that 4th down fade basically losing the game
>with his head.. our old QB's strong suit.

I can never tell when Kaep is actually calling an audible. It seems like runs to the line of scrimmage just before every play. I can't tell if it's all for show or he's actually changing the play.

>It just sucks period.. bring on the A's

Um, yeah. Pitchers and catchers report soon, right?

>Culliver getting beat badly sucked.

He's the new poster child for keeping your mouth shut during super bowl week

>I can never tell when Kaep is actually calling an audible. It
>seems like runs to the line of scrimmage just before every
>play. I can't tell if it's all for show or he's actually
>changing the play.

Kap was the one who came out and said he changed the play... props to him for owning it like that but a fade in that situation is one of the last plays I'd want called.


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Ellerbe came up the middle untouched, Kaep literally had 1 second to get rid of the ball

Crabtree was 2-3 yards deep in the endzone when the ball was thrown... but no he didn't have much time

And yeah he's on tape saying he changed the play at the line

I'm more upset about Ed Reed jumping off sides on the two point conversion
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Culliver was awful. Moss sucked too. Hell, on the Ravens side, Lewis didn't have a particularly good game either.

he played the mentor role well and I give him props for that... but that wasn't the type of effort I wanted to see from him going for a ring
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Could be the last game he plays, period.

I'll also give him props for the mentoring; Crabs & the other WRs, Alex Smith, and Kaep liked having him around, but he stunk it up for much of the game. Quit on routes, don't show much effort in general. If he was trying to use this as a showcase game for some other team to sign him next season, it was a pretty big failure.

I mean even though I've never like to see a player give less than 100% you could almost understand what he did on the Raiders... but damn you competing for a ring right here (in what could easily be his last shot) and you come out and play like that? It's so mindbogglingly bizarre you have to question this dudes mind. The fact he said he was better than Jerry only a few days early makes it even crazier.

I just wish we had either Williams or Manningham Sunday, then we could have just sat his ass down.
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>I mean even though I've never like to see a player give less
>than 100% you could almost understand what he did on the
>Raiders... but damn you competing for a ring right here (in
>what could easily be his last shot) and you come out and play
>like that? It's so mindbogglingly bizarre you have to question
>this dudes mind. The fact he said he was better than Jerry
>only a few days early makes it even crazier.

Part of me thinks dude was sulking for being involved early. During a first real drive, he was wide open in the endzone on that pass that Kaep threw to Crabtree. After that play, he stopped making an effort. Just so fucking frustrating.

>I just wish we had either Williams or Manningham Sunday, then
>we could have just sat his ass down.

Now here's a sentence that I'd never expect to be written a spoken: Rather having Kyle Williams in the game than Randy Moss. World's gone upside-down. But yes, Randy sucked.

>Now here's a sentence that I'd never expect to be written a
>spoken: Rather having Kyle Williams in the game than Randy
>Moss. World's gone upside-down. But yes, Randy sucked.


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Because I'm not sold on LaMichael

He looks good in principle: a flashy, darty
runner to compliment Gore...but meh

But you can honestly only expect Gore to be
good for so long...he's having a Hall of Fame
career, god bless him

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once Kendall is healthy i imagine he steps into his same role.

James was occasionally sloppy last night, but he's still a rookie, and looked great against Atlanta. I think we've got the RB position set with Hunter and James sharing time as the "deuce" to cut down on the time that Gore has to be on the field. And Dixon isn't bad either. RB is one of the spots I'm not sweating.

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>James was occasionally sloppy last night, but he's still a
>rookie, and looked great against Atlanta. I think we've got
>the RB position set with Hunter and James sharing time as the
>"deuce" to cut down on the time that Gore has to be on the
>field. And Dixon isn't bad either. RB is one of the spots I'm
>not sweating.

And I love James in tight space... he knows when to make himself 'small' at just the right time. There were a few runs in the Falcon game where he got low and lunged for an extra 3-5 yards when it didn't even look like there was a hole to get through.

I'm more than happy with where James is seeing he's only played about half a season.
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people write him off every season too, but I agree, eventually he will really break down, and with RB's they don't slow down gradually, they fall off a cliff... If Hunter recovers though, him and James are a nice combo, and Anthony Dixon has potential too

Is he really that good? He is always mentioned as "one of the best special teams coaches in the league."

But our coverage unit was a huge liability this year, culminating in perhaps the decisive play of the Super Bowl. And he was never able to get David Akers' mind right.

I know he has coached some great units. So was 2012 an aberration, or should we start looking for Seely's replacement?

especially after the 2012 unit was so good... let's see where we are next year and revisit this then
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Jim Harbaugh talks Dashon Goldson
By David Fucillo on Feb 5, 11:37a


Jim Harbaugh met with the media to wrap up the season and discussed a variety of topics. We take a look at his comments surrounding free safety Dashon Goldson's contract status.

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49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh met with the media to wrap up the 2012 season, and he hit on a variety of topics. Although we did not hear a ton of specifics, Coach Harbaugh did have some comments about free agent free safety Dashon Goldson.

Harbaugh was asked about Goldson and his long-term future and he did say he thinks Goldson was the kind of guy who deserves to get rewarded. He acknowledged Goldson would be a priority as they head into the offseason.

We can take this with a certain measure of salt given that Harbaugh never really committed to specifics. Of course Goldson is a priority. His contract status is one of the biggest offseason issues the team faces. However, just because he is a priority, does not mean a deal will get done. There is a lot to be figured out before that can happen.

Goldson also spoke to the media earlier in the day, and indicated he really did not want to deal with the franchise tag for a second straight year. That again is not a surprising comment. His agent will work with the team, and we'll find out in the next month or so if the team will tag Goldson.

It is noteworthy from Goldson's comments that the team did give him some heads-up on other contracts that were being done:

It was just like, they were getting deals done and I could get a deal done. There wasn't any hard feelings. It was just, "OK." They respected me. They let me know before they signed guys. I had the heads up. I respect them for that.

The relationship seems to be on solid ground as we move into the offseason. Whether that means a deal gets done remains to be seen. It will come down to dollars at this point, and where the 49ers value Goldson compared to the rest of the market. And of course, if they are willing to risk a potential holdout if they tag him for the second straight year.

How would you handle the situation? Tag, extension or let him walk? I like an extension if the price is right, given some of the consistency concerns. Goldson is a big-time playmaker, but sometimes he can be incredibly frustrating. We take the bad with the good, but with pay-day approaching, the 49ers need to figure out where they value the good and the bad.

Harbaugh will always talk up his own guys but you have to include the subtext which generally has to do with price. I'm sure the 49ers would love to bring Goldson back at the right price, but I'm not sure the Niners value for him will match up to what he can get on the open market.

The 49ers have been pretty consistent under Baalke in setting internal values on players and sticking to it. They don't really get caught in bidding for guys and have been more than willing to let guys walk if they want more than what the 49ers were offering. We saw it last year with Josh Morgan, Harbaugh consistently talked about how much they wanted him back until he got the offer from the Redskins and then the Niners just moved on to the next guy and signed Manningham for less.

Goldson has been trying to get top dollar for two years now and after a couple pro bowls he might be able to get it, I just don't think the Niners will go that high to get him.

I don't read too much into it either way... Harbaugh is the coach not the GM. What else can he say about a player that may be coming back? I mean he's on record as saying he wants Randy back too but I don't see that happening.

But if we do bring Goldson back then I think we have to move Whitner... as much as I like Whitner (and would rather have him than Goldson) I'm just not comfortable without having a better cover guy on our back end.
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Aunt, uncle of 49ers' Delanie Walker killed by drunken driver after Super Bowl

San Francisco 49ers tight end Delanie Walker is mourning the loss of his aunt and uncle after the couple was killed by a suspected drunk driver hours after watching their nephew play in Super Bowl XLVII.

Im going to miss y'all but i know they are in a better place.. instagr.am/p/VZdTdGBfnl/

— Delanie walker (@Dwalk46) February 6, 2013


Alice and Bryan Young were parked on the right of Interstate 10 about 15 miles outside New Orleans when Nechole Thomas, 26, hit them as she swerved off the highway around 5:30 a.m. Monday, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

According to the report, Thomas was able to get out of her 2002 Mercedes C230 with minor injuries as both cars began burning. The Bryans were pronounced dead at the scene.

Thomas has been arrested on suspicion of vehicular homicide, driving while intoxicated and reckless operation of a vehicle.

R.I.P. to Walker's aunt and uncle and best wishes to him and the rest of his family.

>
>According to the report, Thomas was able to get out of her
>2002 Mercedes C230 with minor injuries as both cars began
>burning. The Bryans were pronounced dead at the scene.

goddamn that's fucked up yo. prayers to them and the whole family. shit.

Damn. Thoughts go out to Walker at this time.

We left New Orleans Monday morning and were actually caught up on I10 due to this crash. Heard it was a fatal accident as we were scanning the local radio to see what was going on. There was close to a 6 mile back up and about a 2 hour lock on traffic.

fucked up part is he'll think about this every time this super bowl is brought up

I really feel for dude
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Goes without saying but: don't drink and drive.

The convenience of not paying for a cab vs. living the rest of your life knowing you killed somebody's mom/son/wife/brother.

Hope we can keep Walker. He had some issues this year but he would be missed.

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Terrell Suggs: I thought Kaepernick was all hype, but I was wrong
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 9, 2013, 7:39 AM EST
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Ravens outside linebacker Terrell Suggs admits that before the Super Bowl, he didn’t think much of 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

“Going into the game, I thought it was all hype,” Suggs told Jim Rome. “He’s only had nine starts and then I’m going down the line at the teams he’s playing and I’m like ‘OK, alright, he’s got some good stats, but we will see.’”

But after seeing Kaepernick pass for 302 yards and run for 62 yards against the Ravens in the Super Bowl, Suggs is a believer.

“When you go in there and you’re playing a guy like that, I hate quarterbacks, but that kid is the truth and I have the upmost respect for him,” Suggs said. “I don’t think he needs to hold his head down at all because he’s going to play in a few .”

Everyone who watched the Super Bowl had to come away impressed with Kaepernick. Even a Raven who hates quarterbacks.

Kaep has the the future looking brighter than any time since the early 90s.

has been the one thing that's taken some of the sting out of the super bowl loss
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that they would be a possible destination for A. Smith. Do you guys think we are going to get offers for Smith. I mean he has a very manageable contract for a starting QB for the next two years and proven he can win with the right system.

all it takes are two teams that are interested... KC, Clev & Az still seem like the best bets to me. Of course the 9ers would like to send him out of the division and conference if possible.
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>that they would be a possible destination for A. Smith. Do
>you guys think we are going to get offers for Smith. I mean
>he has a very manageable contract for a starting QB for the
>next two years and proven he can win with the right system.

Also, Flacco won't get CLOSE to the type of money the Ravens are offering him anywhere else. They'll work something out.

If we could swing this I'm all for it

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NFL Trade Rumors: Could the 49ers make a play for Percy Harvin?

According to sources, the Minnesota Vikings are pursuing trade offers for WR Percy Harvin. We discuss whether or not this move makes sense for the San Francisco 49ers.

Heading into the 2013 offseason, the San Francisco 49ers will be once again looking to situate the wide receiver corps. After Ted Ginn Jr. and Randy Moss inevitably depart, the Niners will have only four contracted players at the position.

And of the four returning, two are coming off season-ending injuries and another has yet to record a single NFL catch. Michael Crabtree stands out as the one dependable WR for the Niners going forward. It's a virtual certainty that the 49ers will look for outside help this offseason, and should explore all options.

On Sunday, NFL.com reported that the Minnesota Vikings will be examining trade offers for Percy Harvin. The Vikings WR currently has one year left on his deal, and reportedly wants out. Finally, the Vikings are in agreement and seem willing to meet Harvin's demands.


The 49ers will have roughly 14 available selections in the 2013 NFL Draft. They could potentially gain more with the trade of Alex Smith as well.

49ers 2013 picks
1. First round: Own pick
2. Second round: Own pick
3. Third round: Own pick
4. Third round: From Carolina in trade-back during 2012 draft
5. Third round: Likely compensatory selection
6. Fourth round: Own pick
7. Fifth round: Own pick
8. Fifth round: From Indianapolis in trade-back during 2012 draft
9. Sixth round: Own pick
10. Sixth round: From Miami in trade-back during 2012 draft
11. Seventh round: Own pick
12. Seventh round: From Cincinnati for Taylor Mays
13. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection
14. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection

According to Steve Bateman, the talk around Minnesota is that they are looking for a 2nd and a 4th rounder to part with Harvin. If that is the case, the 49ers can make the trade and still have three 3rd round picks to move around in the early-to-mid rounds.

They would still have 12 picks to do whatever they please, leaving them plenty of ammunition to maneuver throughout the draft.

Harvin is an extremely dynamic player that could be a multidimensional threat for San Francisco. He can be a kick and punt returner, sharing time with Kyle Williams and LaMichael James. Over his career, Harvin has shouldered the return duties, emerging as one of the top threats in the league.

Again, since Ginn is expected to be on his way out, this would be a logical addition.

Harvin also operates out of the backfield and could potentially add an entire new dimension to the Pistol formation. With Harvin lining up in the backfield like Randall Cobb in Green Bay, San Francisco can introduce a litany of innovative new plays.

And if Delanie Walker leaves, Harvin can be that "swiss army knife" for the Niners.

Harvin was also greatly frustrated in Minnesota; likely because of the inconsistency and lack of dynamism outside the running game. In his fifth year, he could come to the Bay Area and find a home with sensation Colin Kaepernick. As a pass-catcher, Harvin possesses the perfect skill set for this timing-based West Coast hybrid system.

From a financial perspective, Harvin's cap figure in 2013 is set at approximately $4.02 million, which is a steal. The 49ers would have a dynamic tandem between him and Michael Crabtree, and it would cost them next to nothing. A lot of the top receivers average double-digit millions per season. Harvin's deal would be closer to what San Francisco paid Randy Moss this past season.

Now, given that Mario Manningham is coming off a torn ACL and owed a cap figure of $4.95 million in 2013, the 49ers may cut him and start fresh. If they part ways with Manningham, the 49ers can save $2.35 million in cap room and put it toward Harvin.

And once Harvin's deal expires in 2014, he could potentially take a deal to re-sign with the 49ers and lock down this WR group. The opportunity to win, see a lot of touches and play with a franchise quarterback may be enough to make Harvin fall in love with San Francisco.

This deal may not only work out in the short-term, but it could be a terrific move in the long run.
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let's do this right now.

He'd probably be our #2 receiver, and further increasing our depth at that position is never a bad thing.

>Now, given that Mario Manningham is coming off a torn ACL and
>owed a cap figure of $4.95 million in 2013, the 49ers may cut
>him and start fresh. If they part ways with Manningham, the
>49ers can save $2.35 million in cap room and put it toward
>Harvin.
>
>And once Harvin's deal expires in 2014, he could potentially
>take a deal to re-sign with the 49ers and lock down this WR
>group. The opportunity to win, see a lot of touches and play
>with a franchise quarterback may be enough to make Harvin fall
>in love with San Francisco.
>
>This deal may not only work out in the short-term, but it
>could be a terrific move in the long run.

I don't agree that they should cut Manningham, he's still young and has big play potential, but Harvin would put return duties on LOCK PLUS give us another dynamic weapon on offense.

And damn, I thought we only had 11 draft picks, didn't realize we had FOURTEEN.

I doubt we could fit both in with new deals but at least let Manningham's contract play out... even one year with Crabs, Mario and Percy would be beastly
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If we can get something for Alex.

So will Kap

Can't really have 2 front end WRs and a very good #3 all with loaded contracts when you still have a young QB like Kap left to sign. That shit would have to show up somewhere... likely on the defensive side.
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I was like..."you mean the dude that was killing us when we went to the game this yr? OH FUCK YEAH!"

hahahaha

If he can stay healthy, easily an upgrade over ginn (which is who he said harvin would replace).

that game was some bullshit, the way we started was some bullshit, them refs was some bullshit, and our late play calling was some bullshit. but shit's over, can only look forward while learning from what took place.

we have to put shit out of reach and go back to playing with a lead. the game is totally different for us when we do. being neck in neck in either of the last two games we played in and they're not even close IMO, but you expend so much energy making big comebacks and it becomes a war against the clock too....also, while he was on the field, Justin Smith from last year's playoff run wasn't there. Had he been, no question in my mind that we pop bubbly, but that's the nature of the beast....shoulda used that deer antler...

ANYHOW

i guess the big trade talk is what will be done with alex and the possibility of revis. i'm not particularly fond of doling out a lot of long-term money on a position that is so dependent on athleticism and speed to a guy who's coming off major injuries over the past few years. don't want another nate clements type of situation, although revis is better than clements ever was. the one thing about our front office that i'm confident in is that they will NOT just hand over the checkbook to someone.

i'd like to think that our team has become one that players are willing to take somewhat less for to join, which can help us stay around the top in the coming years. but my prime focus is the area where this team has been primarily constructed...

the DRAFT: with 11 picks, i expect some prime value to be obtained, namely at least one pro-bowl caliber player in the secondary, and a similar type of player on the defensive line. would be nice if there was a beast at NT that would allow us to draft/develop more speed on the outside, since we don't have much of a pass rush outside of what Justin sets up for Aldon, and Brooks occasionally.

on that note...hoping Aldon keeps his ass somewhere safe this offseason and J Smitty rehabs well for what may be his last year in the league. Kaep gonna work hard and ball the fuck out next year. need to finish this shit right though.

After a slow start and bad calls late cost them the NFC Championship, Walsh emphasized a 'leave no doubt' mentality going into '84... of course we know now that would turn into a 15-1 regular season and a super bowl title. I'd love to see Harbaugh take the video of Walsh talking to his team after that game and play it on the first day of camp.
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Walsh was bitter about that Steelers game until the very end.

but yeah, i see where you're going.

Jason Cole says the 49ers should sign Greg Jennings
Posted on February 12, 2013 by Grant Cohn
Yahoo NFL insider Jason Cole spoke on 95.7 The Game this week about the 49ers’ need for a No.2 wide receiver. Here’s what Cole said.

Q: Is Percy Harvin a good fit for the 49ers?

COLE: “Sure, if you like to buy headaches.”

Q: Literally?

COLE: “Literally and figuratively. Look, I live in Gainseville, Florida. I watched all of his career. I know an awful lot about Percy. He’s just got issues.

“He’s a great player, and when he’s in a good mood he’s fantastic. On Sundays he’s usually in a pretty good mood, so if you get him to Sunday it’s fantastic. But the other six days of the week and the offseason he’s a handful. That’s just the way it is. Percy Harvin is not an easy guy to deal with. I’ve heard that everywhere from Florida coaches to Florida students, because I teach there, to Minnesota Vikings people, to people who are close to him. He’s just a handful.”

Q: So where do the 49ers get that No.2 receiver they clearly need and don’t have?

COLE: “There’s a pretty good group of guys in free agency this year. To me, the perfect fit for them is a guy like Greg Jennings. I really like Greg Jennings. I know he’s got some injury issues to think about, but I think he can be had at a pretty reasonable price for a guy who probably will handle being a No.2 behind Crabtree. He’s mature, can handle the locker room, has a great disposition about him. To me, that’s the guy that jumps off the page.”

Do you agree with Cole? Should the 49ers try to sign Greg Jennings? Is he a good fit next to Crabtree? Will Jennings be too expensive for the 49ers?

I trust our locker room
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locker rooms. No one person is going to kill a great locker room such as ours. Its much more likely that the positive energy will rub off on him

>locker rooms. No one person is going to kill a great locker
>room such as ours. Its much more likely that the positive
>energy will rub off on him

It's been proven that any perceived problems are neutralized and dealt with pretty quickly. I'm not saying NO to Harvin, but I'd rather take someone who's gonna contribute regardless rather than invest in someone who just may not be productive due to his own issues.

Every year it's been SOMETHING with our FA wideouts

Braylon hurt then non-producing/griping/released

Randy was not a distraction but SUCH an underproducer

Manningham got hurt; I think he'll stay a good pickup but he still wasn't there at seasons end when we neeed him.

I want as little "stuff" attached to our wideouts as possible. I recognize injuries are part of the game, but I just want production and no tangential bullshit. More importantly, I want someone who will stay for a minute and not be a year in year out experiment, we've gone through this EVERY year for the past 3. I'm not even saying that I don't want Harvin, but that Jennings is another good option to consider and maybe a GREAT one if Harvin has the potential to be a pain in the ass.

1. What has happened with Braylon, Moss, and Mario have nothing to do with Percy Harvin

2. Percy Harvin is immensely more talented than any of those guys..even Moss at 35.

3. The guy with baggage shit is overstated. For every guy who comes along with image problems and "baggage" and were failures because of it..I can show you that many guys who had those issues and succeeded. Besides, every Wide out in NFL history was a prima donna.

This dudes tangible and proven skillset and ability to produce far outweighs his potential locker room dynamic.

and again, the right locker room kills that shit...ask Bill Belichick

>1. What has happened with Braylon, Moss, and Mario have
>nothing to do with Percy Harvin

I never said it did. but the fact remains that each of our FA WR acquisitions have not turned out well. the only good thing is that it didn't hurt us too much capwise.


>2. Percy Harvin is immensely more talented than any of those
>guys..even Moss at 35.
no need to say "even" moss. braylon another no need to mention. manningham is the only live body out there but this is not even arguable.


>3. The guy with baggage shit is overstated.
we don't know that, although i'm hoping it is if we sign him

>For every guy who
>comes along with image problems and "baggage" and were
>failures because of it..
you're getting extra....all that was said was that he's been a "headache." my only point is that i'm tired of FA pickups that are just not producing, that's my only focus.

I can show you that many guys who had
>those issues and succeeded. Besides, every Wide out in NFL
>history was a prima donna.
i said nothing about prima donnas, not about that at all, its about production

>This dudes tangible and proven skillset and ability to produce
>far outweighs his potential locker room dynamic.


>and again, the right locker room kills that shit...ask Bill
>Belichick
again, this isn't about causing locker room issues, it's managing to put whatever shit aside and PRODUCE. no one player will derail the team's bond. but will he PRODUCE and be out there most of the season? that's my ONLY concern.


will you look at this. he has REAL headache issues...smh lol

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1526590-nfl-trade-news-vikings-harvin-headache-not-going-away-anytime-soon

when they go to another team.

i remember will_5198 detailing this out at some point.

not sure why everyone's getting an erection for harvin.

curtis conway
johnny morton
antonio bryant
darrell jackson
braylon
moss
who's next?

i ain't ready to give up on mario m. yet.

that said, we got so many draft many picks that we're basically playing with the house's money if minny wants to deal harvin's ass on the cheap.

his ability to lineup in the backfield definitely wouldn't hurt in the bigger scheme of kap's offense.

>

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on NFL Live Wednesday that the trade market for Alex Smith is "limited," and there is "not a large buzz" about Smith among quarterback-needy teams.
Specifically, Smith going to the Browns is a "long shot," per Mortensen. The Jets can't afford his contract, the Cardinals are the 49ers' division opponent, and the Chiefs might explore Nick Foles or Geno Smith first. Anyone who's kept tabs on Smith the past two years won't be surprised. Smith was available in 2012 free agency, and only the 49ers and Dolphins showed much interest in him -- both after missing out on other quarterbacks. Smith's physical skill set is just borderline starting-caliber, and he was benched this past season. The 49ers won't get more than a mid- to late-round pick on the trade market. Feb 13 - 4:41 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3119/alex-smith

will be you not having a reason to post in 9er threads anymore
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I want to see how their draft goes first but they could be right there come December
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kinda fun to see some of these... I'm just glad Eddie D never made the switch to those "49er" helmets

http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/179/San_Francisco_49ers/
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http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/179/thumbs/1008.gif

Otherwise I feel pretty good about the current looks.

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/dashon-goldson-wants-top-tier-money-but-is-he-worth-it/

Dashon Goldson wants top tier money, but is he worth it?10
RUTHLESS SPORTS GUYFebruary 11, 2013

The 49ers officially have a problem in the secondary. After letting him test the market in 2011 and franchising the hard-hitting safety last offseason, the 49ers are again faced with Dashon Goldson’s impending free agency.

Jim Harbaugh said Goldson deserves to be rewarded this offseason and seeing as the Hawk doesn’t want to be franchise tagged again, it appears a long term contract is the only way to get him back into a 49ers uniform for 2013.

As BASG pointed out, Harbaugh could see tagging the safety again as the “reward” he’s talking about. The salary for franchised players is the average of the five highest-paid players at their respective position. In this case, Goldson would be getting paid $7.45M if he was tagged again. That’s only $550,000 a year less than the $8M he’s rumored to be asking for, so what’s the big deal, right?

The problem is simple: franchise tagging Goldson would make him the second highest paid safety in the league behind only Troy Polamalu, who’s set to earn $7.5M in 2013. Polamalu’s contract is an overpayment at this stage of his career, so a better comparison might be Eric Weddle, whose 5-year, $40M contract comes close to what Goldson is seeking. Ultimately, paying Goldson what he’s asking for would make him one of the three highest paid safeties in the NFL.

With so much work to be done on the 49ers’ payroll, is Goldson worth being paid top safety money? Weddle is widely regarded as one of the best safeties in the league and at first glance Buffalo Bills’ Jairus Byrd is the most comparable player at his position in the free agent market. Here are their 2012 regular season statistics, side by side.


Statistics courtesy of Pro Football Focus
While Byrd was clearly the more solid safety of the three in 2012, it appears the Chargers asked Weddle to do more. Even then, Weddle wasn’t far behind Byrd. Goldson wasn’t close to either of them, however. He missed three times as many tackles Byrd missed, and the Buffalo Bill was superior in nearly every category.

PFF’s advanced scores show an even larger discrepancy.


Scores are out of 88 safeties, courtesy of Pro Football Focus
Goldson graded out as by far the worst of the three safeties in every category except for pass rush. The differences are startling. While PFF isn’t the be-all/end-all when it comes to gauging a players worth, both regular and advanced statistics show Goldson isn’t worth nearly the money Weddle and Byrd are.

So how much should the 49ers pay for Goldson?

Here’s where it gets tricky — the top of the pay scale for safeties is absolutely littered with bad contracts.


Rankings courtesy of Pro Football Focus, contract details courtesy of Rotoworld
Conversely, there are some contracts in need of restructuring among PFF’s top ten safeties.


Rankings courtesy of Pro Football Focus, contract details courtesy of Rotoworld
Finally, here is a look at some of the safeties that graded out similarly to Goldson.


Rankings courtesy of Pro Football Focus, contract details courtesy of Rotoworld
Clearly the 49ers will get nowhere offering Goldson a contract as frugal as Harrison Smith’s or Kam Chancellor’s, but they would be grossly overpaying if they gave him a contract like Weddle’s. One possibility would be to wait and see what kind of money William Moore gets paid, but perhaps a fair barometer would be the contracts Kerry Rhodes and Tyvon Branch received.

Rhodes’ deal, signed in 2008, is worth $33.5M over five years. $20M of it is guaranteed, including a $2M roster bonus in the third season of the deal with workout bonuses included. Branch’s deal, signed last offseason, is good for $26.6M over four years. $17.6M of it is guaranteed, and it includes a $5.6M signing bonus, a $3.5M roster bonus in the contract’s second year along with various incentives. Both deals even out to around $6.6M per year — considerably less than what Goldson is asking for, but nothing to sneeze at nonetheless.

The 49ers certainly have their work cut out for them if they plan on nailing down a fiscally responsible contract for the Hawk, and they’d better have a backup plan if he decides to take his services elsewhere.
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Through FA or the draft.

Is Goldson a good safety? Yes. Is he one of the top 3 in the league? No.

But sometimes you have to overpay people if the alternative is that your team gets a lot worse.

we were doomed when harbaugh burned that 2nd timeout.

with boone pulling to seal the right DE and gore leading, really believe kap gallops down to the two-yard line, if not the end zone.

i) 2nd and 10 wouldn't have been the end of the world.

ii) ravens don't get the opportunity for the safety with another timemout in our safety.

like, who the hell has clocks issues COMING OUT OF TWO-MINUTE WARNING?

but it is what it is.

The biggest downside was his ability to get plays off promptly. Coaches deserve blame for this, but ultimately it's the price we paid going from an unspectacular but experienced Smith to the phenomenal but still learning Kaepnernick.

He'll get better at it. The future is looking good.

when i was at the dolphins game, harbaugh was constantly motioning *hurry up* to him. way more than the cameras pick up.

>The biggest downside was his ability to get plays off
>promptly. Coaches deserve blame for this, but ultimately it's
>the price we paid going from an unspectacular but experienced
>Smith to the phenomenal but still learning Kaepnernick.
>
>He'll get better at it. The future is looking good.
>

indeed.

Coming out of timeouts if I recall correctly.

I expect all that shit to get straightened out this off-season.

be back in a few weeks... maybe...

they're not gonna franchise dashon, so there's a good chance he ain't coming back.

whatever happens, we gotta upgrade the coverage skills at safety.

*peeps the nfl draft thread*

Draft a safety and keep it moving
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Today, no.

We're coming into this draft playing with house money.

A lot of us had high hopes for Harbaugh. I don't think anybody realized how lethal Baalke was going to be.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/matt-maiocco/updated-49ers-15-draft-picks-provides-flexibility

The 49ers are in line to have 15 draft picks, including selections at Nos. 31 and 34 overall.

The latter comes as compensation from the Kansas City Chiefs for backup quarterback Alex Smith. League sources confirm what Jay Glazer of Foxsports first reported that Smith will be traded March 12, when the trade period opens.

The 49ers are not going to make 15 draft picks. With an already-strong roster, expect the 49ers to be active in packaging picks to move up or work a deal to land an established player. Clark Judge of CBSSports.com suggests the 49ers now become a strong candidate to land New York Jets cornerback Darrell Revis, who is coming off a season-ending ACL tear.

If the 49ers do not trade for any veteran players, they can be expected to make a bundle of trades involving draft picks. The 49ers can move up in to select players they have targeted. They can also trade picks to move back into the 2014 draft.

Updated 49ers 2013 picks:

1. First round, No. 31 (No. 31 overall): Own pick
2. Second round, No. 2 (No. 34 overall): Pick from Kansas City for Alex Smith trade, which can be completed March 12
3. Second round, No. 31 (No. 61 overall): Own pick
4. Third round, No. 12 (No. 74 overall): From Carolina in trade-back during 2012 draft
5. Third round, No 31 (No. 93 overall): Own pick
6. Fourth round, No. 31 (TBA): Own pick
7. Fifth round, No. 24 (TBA): From Indianapolis in trade-back during 2012 draft
8. Fifth round, No. 31 (TBA): Own pick
9. Sixth round, No. 12 (TBA): From Miami in trade-back during 2012 draft
10. Sixth round, No. 31 (TBA): Own pick
11. Seventh round, No. 21 (TBA): From Cincinnati for Taylor Mays
12. Seventh round, No. 31, (TBA): Own pick

The 49ers also expect three compensatory picks that cannot be traded. The 49ers expect a compensatory pick at the end of the third or fourth round, as well as two compensatory selections in the late rounds. Those picks will be announced next month.
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It'll be interesting to see how Baalke and the 49ers play this out on draft day. With the depth in the draft and the fact that the 49ers are most likely going to be looking for back-ups I don't know how much value there will be in trading up. I could see the 49ers rolling over a lot of the picks to 2014.

>I could see the 49ers rolling over a lot of the picks to
>2014.


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>It'll be interesting to see how Baalke and the 49ers play
>this out on draft day. With the depth in the draft and the
>fact that the 49ers are most likely going to be looking for
>back-ups I don't know how much value there will be in trading
>up. I could see the 49ers rolling over a lot of the picks to
>2014.

Nah, they can package several picks to get safety and D-Line Help, although the first 5 are in good position. Also depends on if they try to put them together for Revis.

Just doesn't fit the pattern for this front office.

>Nah, they can package several picks to get safety and D-Line
>Help, although the first 5 are in good position. Also depends
>on if they try to put them together for Revis.
>
>

Safety and D-line are both pretty deep in this years draft. I'm not sure if it's worth packaging multiple picks to, say, move up in the first to grab Kenny Vaccaro when guys like Cyprien, Elam, Rambo, and Thomas are going to be available later in the draft. i guess if the 49ers brass really fell in love with a guy higher up in the first round they could move up, but I don't think there's a great drop-off from the top guys at those positions to the next tier.

unless the 9ers identify a guy they think is too good to risk losing out on I can't see them moving up to pick up a player that grades out slightly higher than one they can get by just staying where they are.
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>unless the 9ers identify a guy they think is too good to risk
>losing out on I can't see them moving up to pick up a player
>that grades out slightly higher than one they can get by just
>staying where they are.

so SOME of them picks are going to be used as leverage

We don't need 15 rookies on this team. Maybe 4.

Despite all the haters and shit talkers he leaves having left his mark on one of the most storied franchises in sports history

http://i.imgur.com/6ZRNXTQ.jpg


Alex Smith: The final numbers

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/matt-maiocco/alex-smith-final-numbers

Under the current NFL schedule rotation, Kansas City quarterback-in-waiting Alex Smith would play against his soon-to-be former team in 2014.



The 49ers are set to open play in their Santa Clara stadium at the beginning of the 2014 season. The 49ers last played the Chiefs in Kansas City in 2010, so barring a change to the schedule formula, Kansas City would come to the 49ers' new stadium in its inaugural season. The Chiefs inherit the final two years of Smith's contract, so he is signed through the 2014 season.

Speaking of Smith's contract, when he signed with the 49ers in the summer of 2005 as the No. 1 pick in the draft, his deal called for him to make $57 million over six seasons.



But after injuries in 2007 and 2008, Smith agreed to a significant pay cut. He signed two more contracts with the 49ers before the 2011 and 2012 seasons.

The final figures are in: Smith played eight seasons, during which time the 49ers paid him a total of $54.8 million, according to a league source.

That averages out to $6.85 million a season. Yes, that's a lot of money. But that's not an exorbitant amount of money for a quarterback in the NFL who was chosen with the No. 1 overall pick.



A lot has been made about Smith's past two seasons under the direction of an offensive-minded head coach, Jim Harbaugh, and the same offensive coordinator, Greg Roman. But Smith's turnaround really began after he came back from shoulder injuries that derailed his 2007 and '08 seasons.

In Smith's final four seasons with the 49ers, he started 45 games and completed 62.1 percent of his attempts with 62 touchdowns and 32 interceptions for a passer rating of 88.2


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He and Frank went through the really dark years. They kept their heads up throughout all the bullshit and played their hearts out even when they were getting crushed. As fans that's all you can ask.

I hope he has a nice long career out there in KC and gets some consistent fan appreciation. When he's done, I could see him being a good OC if he's willing to put in the unhealthy hours.

I thought this was a pretty cool article about his charity work.

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/02/26/alex-smiths-foundation-held-up-as-a-non-profit-model/

Alex puttin' up dem Efficiency stats off the field as well

By contrast A-Rod's was like 1%... of course the also got stripped of their 501 (c) status too
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>By contrast A-Rod's was like 1%... of course the also got
>stripped of their 501 (c) status too
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I'm glad he had the opportunity to play well and succeed as a niner. With that being said, now that he is not a niner, I don't give a fuck about him...but yea, he had the opportunity to flourish before he left. He's the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs.

I did tell ya'll Alex played his last snap as the niners qb though...

That wasn't a thumb at Alex though. I knew what we had in Colin.

Montana on the Chiefs. Jerry on the Raiders, as much as I don't like that team. Roger Craig on the Vikings. Ronnie Lott on the Jets.

Charles Haley was an exception since he went to our biggest rival at the time. T.O. also since he torched the bridge behind him when he left.

like some cats are lol

had to do it.

2nd teams are kind of BS. If you have a 2nd team, you don't really havea 1st team.

having a team you like to see do well in the other conference or league is pretty natural... I'm never committed long term to any of them though. It's usually more about the players than laundry when it comes to my '2nd teams"
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check the offseason thread from last year.

i said it then that i didn't think smith was doing anything that kap couldn't if he had a bit of reps under his belt (....unless you consider checking down to the back five times a game an elite skillset). a lot of that was based from what maiacco and eric davis were saying in 2011 from watching young kap in practice.

>I'm glad he had the opportunity to play well and succeed as a
>niner. With that being said, now that he is not a niner, I
>don't give a fuck about him...but yea, he had the opportunity
>to flourish before he left. He's the starting quarterback for
>the Kansas City Chiefs.
so whenever someone leaves the 49ers, if not facing us, you say "fuck off"? Just wondering....some cats are like that, which is cool.


>I did tell ya'll Alex played his last snap as the niners qb
>though...
>
>That wasn't a thumb at Alex though. I knew what we had in
>Colin.
NOBODY knew PRECISELY what we had. you yourself admitted you liked the unknown potential more than the proven product. some of the shit we saw no one could have predicted exactly.

>so whenever someone leaves the 49ers, if not facing us, you
>say "fuck off"? Just wondering....some cats are like that,
>which is cool.

I sincerely don't care about niggas careers after they leave



>>I did tell ya'll Alex played his last snap as the niners qb
>>though...
>>
>>That wasn't a thumb at Alex though. I knew what we had in
>>Colin.
>NOBODY knew PRECISELY what we had. you yourself admitted you
>liked the unknown potential more than the proven product.
>some of the shit we saw no one could have predicted exactly.

Ok, fair point. I can't say I knew so to speak. I trusted the potential though

Because talent or not 2nd year QBs just don't step in and have that type of impact... I mean he basically did what Marino did minus about 14-15 starts... that's impressive as hell
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second round pick.

Consider me 100% satisfied.

Not to marginalize Alex to just cap space, but essentially thats all he has become for us

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would love for you to kick the raiders ass twice a year. oh the sweet irony of that happening.

Seems like he could be a good backup for our system
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He's got the athletic skill set to perform in the 49ers system but the question with him has always been his mindset and there's really no way to know where he is with that. If Harbaugh and Baalke met with him and decided to bring him on I would think he would be a useful back up.

I'm seeing different reports (via twitter) that say the 9ers have traded a 6th round pick for Anquan Boldin... please god let this be true!
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I'm fuckin doing handstands over here

I've been a big fan of Boldin since is AZ days... always wanted him to be a 9er and now it looks like it may have happened. Dude is the WR version of Delanie Walker but with great hands. The man is just a FOOTBALL PLAYER... I'll take him over Harvin all day every day.
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I think I was the first to post this... I figured this was a good enough place
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I imagine he'll be better than Moss was last year. And we got him for cheap. It's all good.

Even at 32 Bouldin is going to add a lot to this offense... Crabs about ready to take another step with Bouldin there.
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or maybe this was the plan B all along but yup.

They saw that seahawks move and was like, we gotta make it happen.

NFC West gonna be war next yr.

Good thing we are loading up on weapons.

strong, reliable wideout who's now more in the possession mold of his career (sans the super bowl) and will contribute as a #2.

i ain't giving up on mario manningham yet though.

edit: meant to reply to old pro's post.

I sure hop not... Crabs, Boudin & Mario is sick... both Crabs & Mario are good out of the slot so I see no issues keeping these 3 together. The downside is there is no one to lift the top but we still have VD and you would hope something comes of Jenkins eventually.
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Up until last year i would say we arent the type of organization to kill a player due to Injury, but who knows now. I think Mario is a bit better taking the top off with crabs, but you're right we still have VD and AJ has the entire offseason to work.

I really like the DE out of Oregon but rumors are he might go to Jax at #2. If we can move up to get him as an eventual Justin Smith successor i would be ecstatic.

There aren't enough roster spots for all these picks anyway so it's either move up and move some for picks next year.
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I wouldn't be mad at this one bit

Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN
RT @ProFootballTalk Ed Reed could be next Raven to defect to 49ers. > His new agent, David Dunn, has also represented Harbaugh & Baalke.

*update*
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/11/ed-reed-hires-agent-could-be-headed-to-49ers/related/

Ed Reed hires agent, could be headed to 49ers

Receiver Anquan Boldin may not be the only Ravens player who joins the 49ers.

A league source with extensive knowledge of the current safety market believes that the 49ers could land Ravens safety Ed Reed.

As Albert Breer of NFL Network first reported on Twitter (as best we can tell), Reed has indeed hired David Dunn of Athletes First. Now that Reed has an agent, the agent can talk to teams in advance of the start of free agency at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday.

The fact that Reed is in play for the Niners means that Dashon Goldson isn’t. Goldson is expected to be the hottest free agent on the safety market. Reed may not be the hottest, but he may be the next big name to join one of the hottest teams in the league.
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We could use and ILB to give Bowman and Willis a break.

Second year in a row. I like the Boldin move, and I like the rumors about Josh Cribbs, he would fill a lot of holes in the way that Harvin was, plus he's familiar with Seely and I don't remember him ever making any headlines for anything negative. Give some picks for him for sure.

Mario, Crabs, and Quan look fierce, but let's not forget how every season we start looking BEAST at WR then niggas go down with injury. So in truth, I say hold on to each and every one of these motherfuckers, we're likely gonna need em.


Ed Reed, I'm not sure how effective he'd be at this stage, although it'd be a great situation if we drafted a FS who could learn from the best.

Baalke is gonna be on his shit wheeling and dealing, going to be very interesting leading up to the draft.

Our O-line. Kaep. Gore. Sneaky LMJ. Crabs. VD. Now Boldin.

If we're inside the ten, it better be 6.

>Ed Reed, I'm not sure how effective he'd be at this stage,
>although it'd be a great situation if we drafted a FS who
>could learn from the best.

This is my thinking... what better guy to learn from too. But I think Reed has enough in the tank for one more good season... I was shocked to hear he has more ints than anyone over the last 3 years. So yeah he's fallen off but not so much he's not still making plays... my biggest concern is injury not poor play.
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>he's not still making plays... my biggest concern is injury
>not poor play.

he seems to have been hurt a lot over the past few years

I don't see how we have cap room at this point, even with some restructuring.

not getting caught up in the fan hype over dude and feeling the need to lock him up at a high number

we're going to be better off for this going forward
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Sounds like it's done.

Not surprised, but sad to see him go. He's been with the team a long time. His drops were a problem, but he was great for creating the kind of mismatches this offense thrives on. Also a key ST guy.

Bouldin is going to take up some of the blocking slack in our run game... now we just need to draft another TE
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Dude did a lot... Way more than a back-up tight end which some dumbass fans refer to him as... But hopefully we draft a quality TE...

This is definitely a bittersweet day...

kinda inevitable tho when they didn't tag him

And since he's going to a team well outside our division, I'll root for him to do well.

I had heard some rumbling that he might have been headed to the Seahawks; I much prefer this.

Lots of money flying around on the first day, 49ers doing their usual routine and waiting for the dust to clear. Being patient has been the right move for the 49ers the last two years, no reason to change that strategy now.

Between all the draft picks and the amount of quality free agents available I'm expecting the 49ers to get things sorted out. Although I'm a little nervous that the plan might be to hand Ian Williams the starting NT job right now, I have no idea what to expect out of him. Can Glenn Dorsey play NT in 3-4?

don't really know anything about the dude other than he's a high-rounder who hasn't really lived up to his billing...

is he gonna play DE or NT?

regardless, if there's one guy who can get the most out of him it's tomsula.

$7M/2 is less than either Soap or RJF got in free agency so he'll provide some saving for a position that is kind of minimized in the Niners scheme. He's pretty much been considered a disappointment because he was drafted so high by the Chiefs but he has graded out well in run defense the past couple of seasons. Doesn't really provide much of anything in the way of pressuring the passer though.

49ers have Nnamdi and Louis Delmas in for visits today which is interesting. Delmas is kind of like an injury-prone version of Goldson and Nnamdi could be a good fit in Fangio's defensive schemes but at this point I'm not sure he's better than Brown or Culliver on the outside. Doesn't look like a signing is imminent for either guy right now.

But then I've never been a big Rogers fan in the first place. How funny will it be if we end up with Nnamdi after coming up short in that bidding war two years ago

Also read Manningham restructured to remain with the 9ers.... so he's not going anywhere. Good news.
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>But then I've never been a big Rogers fan in the first place.
>How funny will it be if we end up with Nnamdi after coming up
>short in that bidding war two years ago
I sure as fuck don't want this dude if he's a bum. Los can go, he peaked his first year, fell the fuck off this last year and gets outphysicaled by EVERYBODY.



>Also read Manningham restructured to remain with the 9ers....
>so he's not going anywhere. Good news.
>_________________________________

GREAT NEWS. I said it last offseason, he was our most important FA signing, I stand behind that.

I still like Carlos Rogers but he definitely showed some signs of slowing down last season. But he really is the best guy on the roster to play the slot corner position by a pretty wide margin. I thought Perrish Cox might be able to help in that role but he looked very rusty when he got on the field last season and I wouldn't count on him for anything. I could see Culliver taking Rogers spot in the starting line-up next year but I think Rogers will still have value as the nickelback.

I don't know how much of Nnamdi's struggles were do to his role and how much was him getting older, but I think one thing it is safe to take away from his time in Philly is that he is an abysmal option as a slot corner. If he's going to have any success with the 49ers I think it would have to be playing out wide in man coverage which would mean taking snaps from either Brown or Culliver, who I think are out best outside cover guys.

if not this year then next

and to answer beamers question... yeah I think he can still play. He was still playing like Nnamdi his last year in Oakland... I have a hard time believing a dude his age would just fall off the very next year. I don't know enough about Philly's system and what they were doing with him but I've heard more than one analyst say the Eagles had a bad system for him and that he'd fit well within Fangio's scheme. Plus he's a bay area kid who may feel more comfortable coming back home with something to prove... I'll be disappointed if we don't sign him.
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was always gimme their best guy and i'm gonna shut him down.

In Oakland Nnamdi was not asked to shadow the other teams best receiver around the field. He played outside on one side of the field and when he was at his best took away his side of the field.

He's a big guy who in his youth had outstanding recovery speed. He was great at jamming his man off the line then, using the sideline as an extra defender, shadowing him down the field. In Philly he was asked to play a lot of different coverages, and he struggled with most of them. He couldn't really keep up with shifty slot receivers in the middle of the field, and on the outside he would get lost when asked to play in off coverage when he couldn't get his hands on the receiver.

He might work with the Niners because we don't ask our CB's to switch around based on match-ups, other than moving Rogers to the slot in the Nickel, and we play a lot of man coverage with safety help. Fangio will mix in the occasional zone scheme but Nnamdi would largely be asked to stay on one side of the field and stick to the outside receiver.

The biggest question I have about Nnamdi is how much of his sub-4.4 speed has he lost over the years? Does he still have the recovery speed to press at the line and then chase his man down the field? The 49ers seem to play a lot of off-coverage on the outside but that might just be a decision based on personnel. I don't think it would be a problem to let Nnamdi play more press coverage if that is what he is more comfortable with but the Niners are generally conservative in their coverages so if Nnamdi doesn't have the same recovery speed it may be a problem.

>In Oakland Nnamdi was not asked to shadow the other teams
>best receiver around the field. He played outside on one side
>of the field and when he was at his best took away his side of
>the field.
>
>He's a big guy who in his youth had outstanding recovery
>speed. He was great at jamming his man off the line then,
>using the sideline as an extra defender, shadowing him down
>the field. In Philly he was asked to play a lot of different
>coverages, and he struggled with most of them. He couldn't
>really keep up with shifty slot receivers in the middle of the
>field, and on the outside he would get lost when asked to play
>in off coverage when he couldn't get his hands on the
>receiver.
>
>He might work with the Niners because we don't ask our CB's to
>switch around based on match-ups, other than moving Rogers to
>the slot in the Nickel, and we play a lot of man coverage with
>safety help. Fangio will mix in the occasional zone scheme
>but Nnamdi would largely be asked to stay on one side of the
>field and stick to the outside receiver.
>
>The biggest question I have about Nnamdi is how much of his
>sub-4.4 speed has he lost over the years? Does he still have
>the recovery speed to press at the line and then chase his man
>down the field? The 49ers seem to play a lot of off-coverage
>on the outside but that might just be a decision based on
>personnel. I don't think it would be a problem to let Nnamdi
>play more press coverage if that is what he is more
>comfortable with but the Niners are generally conservative in
>their coverages so if Nnamdi doesn't have the same recovery
>speed it may be a problem.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/talks-heating-between-49ers-asomugha-155030691--nfl.html

The San Francisco 49ers went 11-4-1 during the 2012 regular season thanks, in part, to a lockdown defensive unit that ranked fourth in the league against the pass (200.2 yds/gm) and second in scoring (17.1 pts/gm).
Nnamdi Asomugha looks to put his disastrous two-year stint in Philly behind him.
But it was a different story when the Niners reached the playoffs. Despite taking out both Green Bay and Atlanta en route to a much-deserved trip to New Orleans, the San Fran secondary was victimized to the tune of 306.0 passing yards and 29.7 points per game during their four postseason contests. As the competition got better, San Francisco’s weaknesses were exposed.
In an effort to upgrade the backend of the secondary before another possible trip to the Super Bowl, the 49ers have engaged in “serious discussions” with free agent defenders Nnamdi Asomugha and Charles Woodson, per Akbar Gbaja-Biamila of the NFL Network.
With Woodson scheduled to turn 37-years-old in October and Asomugha turning 32 in July, it’s unlikely that either player would be offered a long-term deal to join the defending NFC Champions. For Woodson, this would likely be the final contract of his illustrious NFL career. For Asomugha, it could be a one-year “prove it” contract that sends the former Philadelphia Eagle right back out into the free agent waters next season.
Those arrangements may not be ideal for either player, but at least it would give them a chance to play for a legitimate contender.
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FL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Thursday that the Arizona Cardinals and Kevin Kolb would soon be severing ties and that the quarterback would not be on the roster by this weekend.

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The team announced Friday morning that Kolb has been released.

Acquired from the Philadelphia Eagles at the exorbitant cost of Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, a second-round draft pick and a six-year, $65 million contract in July of 2011, Kolb posted a 6-8 record with 17 touchdowns versus 16 interceptions in 15 games with the Cardinals.

The risky trade -- or, perhaps more accurately, the unwillingness to pull the cord after one season -- ended up costing general manager Rod Graves and coach Ken Whisenhunt their jobs.

Due an untenable $9 million base salary on top of a $2 million roster bonus that was set to trigger later in the day, Kolb never had a chance of keeping his roster spot without a pay cut. The two sides reportedly discussed different ways of restructuring his contract, but they couldn't find middle ground.

However, with quarterbacks Drew Stanton and Brian Hoyer both under contract and vying for a chance to start, Kolb probably will try to seek greener pastures. It doesn't get any greener than the New York Jets, a team that has already discussed adding Kolb to their quarterback mix "at the right price."

As Around the League's Gregg Rosenthal mentioned in his wrap-up of free agency's third day, the quarterback-needy Buffalo Bills could also kick Kolb's tires now that he's been set free.

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throws the ball away as he gets hit.


I remember going to the games and just wishing we had a QB that could work some magic, that's why people were so excited for JTO, TSmith, hell even Hill was a playmaker. that Nate Davis throw to Ginn in the pre-season? thing of beauty that up to that point in his career Smith never had.

granted, i was not on the bandwagon with him returning Harbaugh's first season, but i quickly drank the kool aid and jumped aboard. last two year's he's been solid, but not good enough. even tho he was completing high percentage of his throws the offense still seemed stagnant and they'd usually settle for FGs.

To see if he had suggestions that might help Alex. When they talked next Keena asked Joe what he thought... Joe said something along the line of you have one of the worst offenses I've ever seen. he said most of the plays he watched Alex had no where to really go with the ball... So I'm not so sure it's just that Harbaugh's system was great as much as Sing & Raye's sucked.

It will be interesting to see how Alex does under Andy
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>To see if he had suggestions that might help Alex. When they
>talked next Keena asked Joe what he thought... Joe said
>something along the line of you have one of the worst offenses
>I've ever seen. he said most of the plays he watched Alex had
>no where to really go with the ball... So I'm not so sure it's
>just that Harbaugh's system was great as much as Sing & Raye's
>sucked.
His second season, with Norv Turner as his OC, was a marked improvement from his abysmal rookie campaign. He likely would have been able to turn that corner if he had Norv for a few more years.



>It will be interesting to see how Alex does under Andy
indeed. one of my boys who's a diehard KC fan was not pleased and saying that he's not better than Cassell. I'm not trying to shit on Cassell but he's still spending that in their prime Randy Moss/Wes Welker Super Bowl runner-up money.

Andy is that quintessential smart dumb nigga and has seemingly overused his athletic QBs (read McNabb's arm, Vick to a lesser but increasing degree at the end) to the detriment of the team. I remember when he head scratchingly decided to run a balanced attack with Garcia filling in for McNabb and it working well. With KC's running game, if he employs the same with Smith, I think it will be pretty successful.

The blame game was always a good indicator of who really knew wtf they were talking about. Those who blamed Alex for those offenses had no idea what they were talking about. Those who blamed that archaic Offense were at least somewhat knowledgeable.

>throws the ball away as he gets hit.
>
>
>I remember going to the games and just wishing we had a QB
>that could work some magic, that's why people were so excited
>for JTO, TSmith, hell even Hill was a playmaker. that Nate
>Davis throw to Ginn in the pre-season? thing of beauty that up
>to that point in his career Smith never had.
>
>granted, i was not on the bandwagon with him returning
>Harbaugh's first season, but i quickly drank the kool aid and
>jumped aboard. last two year's he's been solid, but not good
>enough. even tho he was completing high percentage of his
>throws the offense still seemed stagnant and they'd usually
>settle for FGs.

the irresponsibility with which the trade for him was conducted. giving away so much value and money for someone who had proven so little, and this was AFTER most had stamp sealed Alex Smith as a non-redeemable bust, and at a time where you'd think that QB evaluation would be much improved from that in the mid 2000s. Arizona's leadership DESERVED to be fired for that shit. You have a top 10 caliber defense, a future Hall of Famer at wideout, and a team a few years removed from the Super Bowl and you fuck things up that badly for an unproven QB? Shiiit. Let's act like Alex had shit like that in place before Harbaugh and Co. showed up.

Just puzzled as to why a draft pick who was at worst a boat that would rise with the tide but never set back the franchise like the Kolb move did has drawn such ire.

>I remember going to the games and just wishing we had a QB
>that could work some magic, that's why people were so excited
>for JTO,
Besides the dude who still wears his O'Sullivan jersey to the games, who the fuck was excited for him?????

>that Nate
>Davis throw to Ginn in the pre-season? thing of beauty that up
>to that point in his career Smith never had.
HaHaHa... I completely forgot about Nasty Nate!

of that season niners lead the league in 20+yard plays. that quickly dried up tho and losses piled up. i think they stared off 2-1 and then lost 5 or 6 straight

any one team in the league.

sing might've been stuck in 1985 with his offensive acumen, but at least he knew yanking o'sullivan for shaun hill was something that should've been done a couple weeks earlier.

LOL nolan LOL

don't need that stress in my life anymore.

even though he's left your team and using a swipe that didn't mention him........

you will have no credibility screaming innocent the next time someone makes a tenuous link between him and the 49ers now

>even though he's left your team and using a swipe that didn't
>mention him........
>
>you will have no credibility screaming innocent the next time
>someone makes a tenuous link between him and the 49ers now

i don't even know what you're trying to say here, i really don't.


yeah i made a thread about alex smith because he's been on my team for the past 8 years, IN MY TEAM THREAD. it violates no fan law to mention him.
are you missing the point i'm making here?


from what i recall, you're not one of those popping off who irrationally shit on him but regarding the rest of the lot, "credibility" is not something they trade in on this topic.

i trust baalke sees something most people don't.

really hope they keep looking further at FS. for the record, i'm cool if they can sign c-wood for modest money.

With Dahl to mentor whoever they are locking in on.

ok

*shrugs*
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seems like mccoy's in the same mold of tolzien.

thought they might taken a closer look at vince young as a possible backup, given the offense.

oh well.

I could still see us drafting a QB in late rounds and then letting it play out in camp, like last year when we cut Josh Johnson.

johnson was an UFA when they signed him...and was basically competing with tolzien for the #3 QB spot.

looks like mccoy's gonna compete with tolzien for the backup job.

Kaep is obviously the franchise guy but he doesn't have a ton of experience and leaves himself open to big hits. Tolzien has been around for 2 years and has yet to take a snap in the regular season. Getting a youngish backup QB with 21 starts under his belt brings some experience to the QB meeting room.

Although McCoy was thoroughly mediocre in his time with the Browns he wasn't a complete mess. Seems like he could be a guy who could protect the ball and wouldn't lose bad games if he had to step in for Kaep for a game or two.

Also, McCoy's situation kind of reminds of Alex Smith. He was a successful college QB who ran the spread option offense, then got drafted by a organization that was kind of lost at sea and was almost immediately asked to lead a West Coast style offense with hardly any talent around him. He's also a better athlete then most give him credit for and could at least run a lot of the same sets as Kaep even though wouldn't be nearly the same type of big-play threat. Of course some generic similarities doesn't mean Harbaugh can get anything out of him, but for the price I think it's worth a try.

Getting an experienced back-up for basically a 7th rounder and $1.5M isn't really an exciting move but it's solid.

>ok
>
>*shrugs*

not like we need anyone that competent, with our weapons and defense, a game manager at best is all it'll take for us to beat most teams.



;)

Sources reporting that Nnamdi is signing with the Niners on a one year deal for $1.35M with no guaranteed money.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/04/49ers-strike-one-year-deal-with-nnamdi-asomugha.html#more

Seems like an ideal low-risk/high-reward signing.

Seriously, that low of a salary, and none guaranteed? I fail to see a downside.

i mean, without looking up salaries i'm guessing he's gonna be just about the lowest paid of anyone seeing the field.

Agree with all the points made. Hopefully he comes in eager to prove himself after bombing in Philly. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't really cost us anything.

Rooting for him, he's long been one of my favorite guys in the league.

The fact he's going to pull a Deon and play for his next deal makes me feel pretty good at the effort we'll see from him this year... down side is this could easily be a one and done deal. I'm ok with that though.
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Niners really got people mad with this signing...

Can't wait until draft day...




SIDENOTE: Met Jim Tomsula over the weekend... Great guy... Really down to earth... Apparently everyone at my job has seen him in before and everyone said he's a great person...

Brock plays ST, right? I'm trying to figure which CB we drop.

Nnamdi's money isn't guaranteed so there is an outside chance he could come in, stink it up and get cut. This is another case of Harbaugh using depth to create competition at a position.
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Reviewing it, again I'm thinking like 12-4 to 10-6 (made the same prediction last year). Some bunnies in there, but then some fairly tough ones too, and a few that could go either way. Good to have the bye week right in the middle again. What y'all think?

1. Sun, Sep 8
vs Green Bay

2. Sun, Sep 15
@ Seattle

3. Sun, Sep 22
vs Indianapolis

4. Thu, Sep 26
@St. Louis

5. Sun, Oct 6
vs Houston

6. Sun, Oct 13
vs Arizona

7. Sun, Oct 20
@Tennessee

8. Sun, Oct 27
@Jacksonville

9. BYE WEEK

10. Sun, Nov 10
vs Carolina

11. Sun, Nov 17
@New Orleans

12. Mon, Nov 25
@Washington

13. Sun, Dec 1
vs St. Louis

14. Sun, Dec 8
vs. Seattle

15. Sun, Dec 15
@Tampa Bay

16. Mon, Dec 23
vs Atlanta

17. Sun, Dec 29
@ Arizona

four playoff teams the first five games.

a thursday game.

a london game.


(....in a perfect world all teams would play their thursday game *after* a bye week.)

We do play some good teams, but hey, we're the defending NFC champs, and we should be fielding what should be a very good team on paper. Some papers and site will probably talk shit the beginning of the season, but everything will settle in during the second half.

than i will be real comfortable. i am thinking 10-6 or 11-5 just of first look. Definitely going to the Skins MNF game. It's gonna be me V like 20 of my friends, and the last time we played them on MNF i was in the building for my first 9ers game ever (41-10 SF i believe is how that ended). I already requested the day after off, lol. Other than that i think i wanna try and fly out for the home opener and one other game at the stick as well as any playoff games. One more year so let's get six for the stick.

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It all went downhill from there.

we need a ken norton jr-type of enforcer on the team to step up and tell this nigga to sit the fuck down for a minute.

from yahoo...

2. San Francisco will be busy – The 49ers are at No. 31 overall, have 13 draft picks, including two selections each in Rounds 2-5. It's believed by at least one GM that the Niners are interested in moving up to the 13th or 14th overall pick. There is no way that the 49ers can keep more than five or six new draft picks with the way the team is structured right now. Expect GM Trent Baalke to either trade up or trade out for picks in the future. The talk around the league is that the 49ers would like to get a defensive lineman who can eventually step in for veteran Justin Smith. The team also needs a safety, No. 2 tight end and could use an impact corner. All of that is possible.

The 49ers definitely have the draft capital to make a move like that but I wonder who they think is worth making that kind of investment in. If they could get get a lineman like Lotuleli or Floyd I could see it, but I doubt either of those guys will make it out of the top 10. After that group your looking at D-linemen like Sheldon Richardson, Sylvester Williams, Datone Jones, or Tank Carradine, and I don't see that much difference in these second tier guys. I'd rather wait and see who lasts till closer to the Niners pick and make a smaller move if necessary.

If their looking at Free Safety I see even less of a reason to move up. Vaccaro appears to be the clear number 1 safety right now, but if the 49ers are looking for a guy who be the last man back in the deep third and come up and support the run I could think of a half dozen guys who are comparable to Vaccaro. While they might not be quite as good I think you could get better value out of guys like Reid, Cyprien, Rambo, Swearenger, or Thomas.

Whatever the 49ers do, it should be an interesting weekend. I can't wait to see what Baalke will do.

But would make sense if they could get a receiver they were in love with.

1st round WR's seem to be such a crap shoot, we're still waiting to see if the Niners crapped out with the Jenkins pick last year I'm not sure the 49ers would want to package multiple valuable picks to roll the dice again. Patterson and Austin appear to be the guys who would go in the teens and both have legitimate question marks, neither is really a "can't miss" difference maker.

Harbaugh and Roman have shown a knack for adapting the offense to their talent but the 49ers haven't really seemed to value the WR position all that highly in the last couple years. They will need to add some WR's before 2014 but I don't know that it's worth grabbing one of the top WR's in this years draft.

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Though if we have TWO 1st round WRs sitting on the bench this year, well...

Also, would have to assume that we're gonna let Crabs go at the end of his contract.

Oh, Tavon Austin would NOT be sitting on the bench lol

And he isn't a Crabtree replacement either

Would he start over Crabtree or Boldin?

Any of you plan on going?

>Any of you plan on going?

i intend to be there, not sure how i'm gonna get my tickets though. one of my boys is a season tix holder and the people around him are classy, but i think i wanna sit with 49ers.

Bet. I'll do the same.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2154147&mesg_id=2154147&page=3#2165463

I'm not sure that the 49ers needed to move up to 18 to get him, but they had the extra pics so I guess I can see why they would want to make sure they got their guy rather than wait around. I like that Reid seems to have a really high football IQ, I think once he gets working with Donatell and Fangio he can really grow into a great FS.

Now I'm just hoping the 49ers nab Tank Carradine with the #34 pick tomorrow and then a TE like Escobar or Kelce at the end of the 2nd. Throw in Honey Badger in the 3rd and I will be very happy with this draft.

If they really wanted Reid and there was concern he wouldn't last until 31, then it was worth it. The luxury of having so many picks.

34. D-line. Jesse Williams or Carradine.

61. CB. Somebody to eventually replace Carlos in the slot. Going to be a long-term need in the NFC West.

34. Tank PLUS a 2014 third.

>34. D-line. Jesse Williams or Carradine.
>

good call. didn't think ertz @ TE was a must-have.

With Kaep, Gore, Hunter, LMJ, VD, Crabs, Boldin, and possibly the best O-line in the league, we'll score some points.

looks like he woulda been a lot higher pick if not for an ACL injury.

addresses another need with soap and ricky jean leaving.

Unless Ian Williams is about to have a Kilgore-like emergence. Somehow I doubt it.

>Unless Ian Williams is about to have a Kilgore-like
>emergence. Somehow I doubt it.

Dorsey, hopefully

I wonder if Lattimore will be on the PUP list this year.

Like the pick though. If he's even half the back Gore became, we will have a dangerous backfield for a good while (Lattimore, Hunter, LMJ, plus a QB who can run a little).

Got good value at pretty much all the positions the 49ers needed help. I was glad that we focused on getting guys with pass rush ability rather than corners. A big deal was made about how the 49ers secondary got torched in the play-offs, but they had one of the best pass defenses in the league for most of the regular season. Things fell apart when Justin and Aldon got hurt, now there should be more depth.

Lattimore seems like a smart pick, I wouldn't be surprised if he is basically red-shirted this year. Leave him on IR to save a roster spot and make sure he is completely healed, then let him compete. Given Lattimore's talent level I feel like we basically traded a late 4th in 2013 for a 2nd in 2014.

The late round picks are basically camp fodder, will compete and push guys for ST spots but I think they will mostly be toast. Interesting start to the UDFA period, looks like the Niners have nabbed British discuss thrower and athletic freak Lawrence Okoye.

So stacked at wide out...

Crabs
Boldin
Manningham
Kyle Williams ... Now Patton?

And of course vd... My god.

What if Jenkins decides to be a man? Smh

>So stacked at wide out...
I'd say well tooled, because dammit if we don't go into every postseason with considerably less than we started with


>Crabs
>Boldin
>Manningham
>Kyle Williams ... Now Patton?
>
>And of course vd... My god.
>
>What if Jenkins decides to be a man? Smh

kyle and mario were out midway through, randy was never what we hoped he would be. and i believe mario and kyle won't even be back by the beginning of the season.


no excuses about if we had this or that player how we'd have fared in the super bowl but it would be nice if we could go into the postseason with the majority of WRs we started the year with.

a lot of this though is future thinking. mario's contract is up this year, crabs will be up soon, kyle as well. in the case we don't resign any or all of them, we have young talent to fill in the gaps.

overall, it's just great to have harbaugh and baalke running the show right now.

He is going to want to get paid like a premiere #1 receiver and some team will probably be willing to do it.

The Baalke trend seems to be, if a player's going to get re-signed, we see an extension happen before their contract year.

By end of 2015 I'm guessing:

RE-SIGNED
Iupati
Kaep
Culliver
Kilgore
Miller
Hunter
T Brown

PROBABLY GONE
Crabtree
Gore (retired?)
J. Smith (retired?)
A Boldin
Whitner

GONE
Manningham
Goodwin

>By end of 2015 I'm guessing:
>
>RE-SIGNED
>Iupati
>Kaep
>Kilgore
>Miller
>T Brown
>Crabtree

>PROBABLY GONE
>Gore (retired?)
>J. Smith (retired?)
>A Boldin (retired?)
>Whitner
>Culliver
>Hunter

>GONE
>Manningham
>Goodwin
>

With Lattimore (assuming he fully recovers) I couldn't see us keeping Hunter with what he may get offered on the open market when we have lattimore and LMJ still..I could be wrong though of course.

And the more Crabtree emerges, I cant see us letting him go. Maybe this is more conjecture than inference..but 90 catches 1000+ and 9tds when we spent years without a good wide out would seem counterproductive as hell.

Culliver...i'm not sure on.

not that the 9ers wouldn't want him but I don't see them emptying the bank for a WR
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With the money the 49ers are spending on the O-line and what they will have to pay Kaep, I don't think they can afford to pay two different receiving targets big dollars.

Given the style of Offense we've seen the last couple years I think VD is more likely to stay, but Kaep and Crabs did seem to have a connection last season and things can change a lot in the NFL in 2 years.

Just based on his rookie holdout, I can see Crabtree wanting to get paid like he's a top 5 in the league wideout. In which case this organization would let him walk.

>>By end of 2015 I'm guessing:
>>
>>RE-SIGNED
>>Iupati
>>Kaep
>>Kilgore
>>Miller
>>T Brown
>> Manningham
>
>>PROBABLY GONE
>>Gore (retired?)
>>J. Smith (retired?)
>>A Boldin (retired?)
>>Whitner

>
>>GONE
>>Hunter
>>Goodwin
>>

Question marks

Crabtree
Culliver


Manningham is still pretty young, and hasn't hit his peak yet. He came on for cheaper than the Skins paid Morgan and isn't likely to get more money from anyone else until he puts together some monster seasons.

Crabs is finally earning his big money, I'm not sure on what he's going to do. I think he's going to give the 49ers a chance to sign him without breaking the bank, but he will want to be justly compensated. Kind of depends what happens with Lockette, Jenkins and dem...

Culliver will probably be at safety this year, which is supposed to be his natural position so if he beasts out, he'll probably stay. Otherwise, his distraction factor may not have him around in 2015

Even if Lattimore doesn't stick, Hunter and LMJ are too similar to both stay active on this roster for very long, IMO. But like you said timeiswhen, who knows, maybe having them both come in keeps the defense on edge with their quick bursts.

I'm still fucking giddy that we can even discuss such things. We have the makings of a dynastic run, provided we actually win some fucking titles of course. The overwhelming majority of our success has been homegrown and with 10 more picks + compensatory next year, that trend looks to continue.

Makes me think of Michael Carter

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/london-calling-49ers-sign-lawrence-okoye/

London calling: 49ers sign Lawrence Okoye

“He’s just an Adonis. Just a great physical specimen of a man. I can think of some other adjectives. Our Creator created a beautiful man. And the things that really impressed, he had the rugby background growing up, and didn’t start throwing the discus until he was 18 years old. And then two years later he was throwing in the Olympics. So, you maybe start to put the pieces together and say, taking on football at this time in his life, I can see this guy doing it. So, I’m excited.”

– Jim Harbaugh on Lawrence Okoye

Here’s Okoye at CES Performance in Atlanta, officially signing with the San Francisco 49ers today.

Okoye is a 21-year-old, and it’s hard to blame Harbaugh for getting excited. He truly does sound like the perfect man. Not only is he gigantic (6′ 5 1/2″, 304 lbs, 34 1/2″ arms), fast (4.78 40-yard dash) and strong (30 bench reps). Not only did he jump higher (35 inches) and further (125 inches) than every 49ers draft pick other than their first (Eric Reid) and their last (Rutgers CB Marcus Cooper).

He’s an Olympian: Okoye finished 12th in the Discus in London with a throw of 61.03 meters.
He’s smart: he has a place deferred to study law at Oxford University.
He’s got bloodlines: his dad, Lawrence Okoye, Sr., played defensive end at Nebraska.
He’s really, really strong: here’s a clip of him putting up 210 kg (463 lbs)

Chances are Okoye will be stashed on the 49ers’ practice opportunity squad, where he’ll work towards becoming a world-class defensive lineman as quickly as he soared to elite status in the world of discus. The 49ers — who might have the most British fans of any NFL franchise — are playing the Jacksonville Jaguars at Wembley Stadium (which sits 20 minutes from Croydon, where Okoye grew up) on Oct. 27. And the 49ers just so happen to let their opportunity squaders travel with the rest of the team on road trips.

“It would be a dream come true to play American football in front of my home country and my hometown in London,” Okoye said. “I’m a long, long way away from that. My priority at the moment is to get to camp, train as hard as possible and work with Jim Tomsula.”

As an undrafted free agent, Okoye probably chose the 49ers for several reasons. They’re a marquee franchise, they win and they’ll be taking that aforementioned trip to London this year. But Okoye has a steep learning curve ahead of him, so the smartest reason to choose San Francisco (other than the weather in the fall and winter compared to other locales) may be the presence of Tomsula. Just ask Ricky Jean-Francois, a former seventh-rounder who signed a huge deal with the Colts this offseason. Or Ian Williams, who was undrafted out of Notre Dame and signed a two-year contract extension with the 49ers that takes him through the 2015 season.

The craziest thing about this Adonis? He’s only going to get bigger after the 49ers’ strength and conditioning team starts working with him. With his height and long limbs, watch that weight to travel upward as he trains for the gridiron instead of the track. I might be getting ahead of myself here, but with his athleticism and intelligence I wouldn’t be surprised to see Okoye follow the path of guys like Isaac Sopoaga, Will Tukuafu and Demarcus Dobbs and get a look at fullback.
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Levi's Stadium


http://splicd.com/DOaHLsNPM88/113/114


(05-08) 11:41 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- One of San Francisco's most widely recognized companies, the clothing outfit Levi Strauss & Co., will pay $220 million over the next two decades to put its name on the San Francisco 49ers' new stadium in Santa Clara.

The naming rights agreement - which will help the Niners pay for their $1.2 billion stadium, scheduled to open for the 2014 season - was announced Wednesday in a press conference at Levi's headquarters.

The 68,500-seat venue will be called Levi's Stadium.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Niners-stadium-will-carry-Levi-s-tag-4498958.php#ixzz2SjiEA332

At least Levi Strauss was a real person who is tied to actual California history.

Could have been "Yahoo! Stadium" or "Sun Microsystems Field" or something.

oh wait.

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Levi's is at least strong associated with the region and the gold rush so it ties into the team. Also good to have a stable a company which should avoid the issues the A's/Raiders have had over the last decade, I gave up on trying to remember what the Coliseum is called.

The only downside I see is being named after a jeans company will lead to many awful and obvious pants-related nicknames.

Levi's Field sounds more natural, but whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7VyypCZG7K4


That shit cray

Though watching that "touch pass" drill brought up some painful memories...

That's cool. If we aren't playing/winning in it, though, doesn't mean that much to me.

Also, can we finally lose the roman numerals on these things? "Super Bowl L"??

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2013/05/22/49ers-receiver-michael-crabtree-torn-achilles/2350547/

>

Time to step up, AJ.

The very small silver lining is that this increases the chances that Crabs get's resigned. If he had a career year in 2013 I think he would have been as good as gone.

>Time to step up, AJ.
>
>The very small silver lining is that this increases the
>chances that Crabs get's resigned. If he had a career year in
>2013 I think he would have been as good as gone.

my thoughts exactly

but this might be a blessing in disguise as now he'll have to diversify his throws a bit more.

Here's to hoping Crab's comes back swift and as good.

interesting hire.

"you can't see what i can see...ya blind, baby, ya blind" (c) mangini to greg roman (via heavy and flav)??

Brown's salary drops $2 million due to offseason absence


Cornerback Tarell Brown chose to remain in Texas for most of the offseason and conduct workouts focused on increasing his speed.

As a result, he quickly saw $2 million get away from him.

A league source confirmed a Yahoo! Sports report Thursday morning that Brown forfeited a $2 million escalator in his contract for failure to complete the 2013 offseason workout clause in his contract. As a result, his base salary for the upcoming season falls from $2.925 million to $925,000.

Brown, who reported to training camp Wednesday with all the other 49ers veterans, is also in line for a $500,000 roster bonus for the upcoming season. He will earn $31,250 for every game is among the 49ers' 46 active players during the regular season, a source said.

Brown's agent was not immediately available for comment.

Brown originally signed a five-year, $10.2 million extension in October of 2009 that was negotiated by agent Brian Overstreet. That dollar figure drops to $8.2 million with his failure to meet workout requirements. Brown also did not earn a $75,000 workout bonus.

Coach Jim Harbaugh did not seem too concerned during the offseason program with the absence of Brown or center Jonathan Goodwin, who trained in South Carolina.

hopefully he can work something out with the team

Crab out for most of the season.

Culliver now out for the entire season.

Most of the receiving corp not practicing "working through something."

Willis breaks his hand.

Hope this is the end of the bad news. I know Cully let us down on and off the field in the Super Bowl but he was a solid 3rd CB. We need Nnamdi and Brock to seriously step up because we will be in nickel and dime constantly this season.

losing depth is always a bad thing. hopefully, nnamdi will help fill the void. according to matt maiocco, so far nnamdi has been having a strong camp.

i'm more worried about the WR situation. either jenkins or williams needs to step up.

3rd round grade, I said it on draft day, major reach...

lets hope he isn't another Rashaun Woods lol

You say enough dumb shit sooner or later some of it will have to end up coming true
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i said he was a huge reach, which he was, just like Jenkins, and Lamar Miller was a better back, which he is, and you'll see that this year when he shines with Reggie Bust gone

and if they don't just say "I just said it was a reach"

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it literally has zero to do with how they perform on the field. If I take the Niners D/ST in the 1st round of my fantasy draft, they could finish 1st in points, it was still a reach.

"Damn I hear AJ Jenkins is still disappointing"

That was what you typed. Then below you added how you said he was a reach on draft day. If you saying "reach" has no barring on how the player actually performs on the field then why even bring it up? You clearly used it in an "I Told You So" fashion. I highly doubt you would have followed up a post about a player excelling with "I told you he was a reach on draft day"

See this right here is why I have zero respect for you... you never own anything and want to pound your chest when you're occasionally right.

It's just bitch made man.
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what's up with CSN the Chronicle... is that show gone? is it yahoo sports talk? i saw Zion I on sportstalk the other day but the rest of the show was shit, tons of yahoo drops and shitty yahoo writers/reporters. did i miss something? (i just got a slingbox, haven't had cable in over a year)

basically the same show with a tweaked format
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but if greg papa, who might be the smartest announcer working today, ain't hosting, i might not be as inclined to watch.

>but if greg papa, who might be the smartest announcer working
>today, ain't hosting, i might not be as inclined to watch.

Agree... Kozimor is awful. Has been since his days out here in Sac. KHTK got rid of his ass a few years back.. How he got that gig over there I'll never know.


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Can't keep this up

smh yea gotta for sure though.

there's always one or two players that get knocked out before season starts during training camp .. are they not properly "eased" into action once the pads come on or did they not condition properly during the offseason? It always happens ...usually some stupid non-contact drill..and at a more frequent pace then even the regular season. Shit sucks and i feel for 'em.

- n/h and consequential public apology
- getting torched in the SB by boldin and jacoby jones
- "b!tches and hoes" on instagram
- out for the year

L

(forget about our WR problems, our DB situation is cause for way more concern imo. With Culliver out, I don't think we'll be letting Nnamdi go exactly, but the fact that Fangio comes out and says he's in between is not a good sign for our secondary/defense)



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000225628/article/nnamdi-asomugha-isnt-guaranteed-49ers-roster-spot

Dan Hanzus surmised that the loss of San Francisco 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver to a torn ACL would likely lock up a roster spot for veteran Nnamdi Asomugha.

It might be the logical inference, but defensive coordinator Vic Fangio suggested Friday that it's a premature one.

"We didn't really know what we were getting when we got Nnamdi. He's had some good days out here and some days where you weren't sure if he was going to still have it," Fangio said, via The Associated Press. "I think we're kind of in between with him right now. Hopefully he'll be able to still have some gas left in his tank to go out there and play like he did prior to going to Philadelphia. So, I think the jury is still out there."

Needless to say, Asomugha's first week of practice has left a lot to be desired. It's fairly damning that Fangio can't tell yet if Asomugha still has gas left in the tank. It's also no surprise to Eagles fans, who watched Asomugha get toasted on a consistent basis the past two years.

Asomugha's one-year contract with the 49ers contains no guarantees. While it's early yet to write him off in a suddenly shaky secondary, Asomugha is sitting squarely on the roster bubble.
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This staff likes playing head games in press conferences.

had to do it.

http://tinyurl.com/m698z27

and who is this Moore cat? he's been making a lot of noise in camp, and he had a nice grab from Kap in the preseason game

1. Started
2. Only played 8 snaps and was pulled along with Boldin despite not being hurt.

Right now it seems like Jenkins is, at best, 4th on the depth chart (behind Boldin, Williams, Moore)

Not a good place to be. If Manningham and Crabtree were healthy he'd be 6th--without the special teams assets that somebody like Osgood brings.

They didn't use him last year because they felt they had better weapons. He has had some good practices and i'm not willing to throw in the towel. He was barely on the field when active last year. I'll wait to see him play a full season getting consistent reps first.

he didn't really make a good impression coming into camp outta shape last year, despite jerry rice offering to take him under his training wing... to which jenkins didn't follow-up on.

and here we are again with him having a dubious camp.

right we need a little more time to see how this shakes out. Right now it's not looking good but then I remember Rice being called a bust too so I try and keep this all in perspective.
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being called a bust...thats something us young kids have never heard before

the wide-open post route in the '85 playoff game against the NYG sticks out the most.

And almost a thousand yards.

He was not struggling to get on the field against old Randy Moss and Ted Ginn.

>the wide-open post route in the '85 playoff game against the
>NYG sticks out the most.

Yep and this the very next year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtQjZECLjPA

The anti Rice crowd was in full rebellion after this

And for those thinking I'm comparing AJ to Jerry slow your roll.. I'm simply pointing out even great careers can start off on the wrong side of the fanbase

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i'm a mark for mario m and hope he returns soon, but with this coaching staff you know they're gonna keep folks guessing.

Nothing but WRs and CBs.

>Nothing but WRs and CBs.

they'll figure it out

Going to fly our from VA for GB, SEA, IND and ATL. Going to MNF in DC against WAS. Gonna talk to some friends and see about doing a NOLA weekend for the Saints game.

got about 10 of us drivin up from long beach to peep out the texans game..mighttt try to pull some tix for the seahawks game

i was originally gonna do a two week road trip from SF up to Vancouver and back down but because i got a new position at work i have to be in the office between games. Got a good deal on flights though so i am excited.

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Family and I are flying out for opening week against the Packers.

i'm going to the new orleans game...

we usually splurge and do the one requisite home game a year and sit between the 40's in lower reserve, but the NOLA trip's gonna be a grip, so might pass...

though i'd hate to miss the last year at the 'stick.

Originally i was gonna do two weeks of driving as the first vacation i have taken since Europe a few years ago. Job stuff happened where it became worth it to be back in VA for work and fly back and forth. The Skins game i am going to with friends and family and the Falcons trip is basically on frequent flier miles.

We trade our headache for KC's headache.

Obviously a colossal fuck-up to waste a 1st round pick, but good to see Baalke isn't letting ego/stubbornness stop the team from moving forward.

>Obviously a colossal fuck-up to waste a 1st round pick, but
>good to see Baalke isn't letting ego/stubbornness stop the
>team from moving forward.

Any word on why he didn't stick? I'm still not big on getting rid of receivers when we run out of them so fast. There was a lot of big talk on Lockette, any chance he gets back on the practice squad? I just have this 'concern' (not yet a fear) that one of the WRs we send off is gonna start balling in the near future...

Just a logjam right now.

Boldin
Williams
Moore
Baldwin
Patton

These dudes will almost certainly make the team.

Then Collie, Osgood (probably best ST), Hall all seemed to be ahead of Lockette.

I think he'll almost certainly get signed by the Seahawks.

Really excited to see how Moore and Baldwin look

But he's also 27 and has never made any real type of impact as a WR in either college or the pros. At some point the physical skills have to turn into production.

Assuming at least one of Carradine, Dial, and Lattimore turn into a long-term starter for us.

Reid, McDonald, Patton, Lemonier all looking like they'll get serious playing time this year. Daniels seems like he'll be our #3 and possibly long-term #2 after he learns the system.

Makes the 2012 draft whiffs even harder to explain...

and making plays.

i think greg jennings tried a deep stop and go route or something on the first play from scrimmage, but reid right there on him in position.

the kid didn't really impress last night.

but it is what it is. they clearly think bj daniels is still too green for the #2.

do y'all think the mad scientist and baalke are propping up mccoy for trade bait?

I don't see how Tolzein much less Wallace could have earned the #2 spot by now. And depriving them of any meaningful playing time in order to, what, boost McCoy's trade value from a 7th to a 6th? Doesn't seem worth it.

But who am I to predict what Baalke will do.

>but it is what it is. they clearly think bj daniels is still
>too green for the #2.
>
>do y'all think the mad scientist and baalke are propping up
>mccoy for trade bait?

At least I hope that's the case. Trade McCoy, name Wallace as the backup with Daniels as the 3rd string guy. I think there's a good chance Tolzien would clear waivers and could be placed on the practice squad. But whatever they do please just don't lose BJ.

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What's the source of your confidence in him as the backup?

as much as it's a lack of confidence in the other 3. I mean I like what I've seen from BJ so far but I'm not ready to put a meaningful game in his hands... not just yet.

The thing I like about keeping both Wallace and Daniels is they can at least mimic what Kap does so the offense doesn't have to make major changes should he go down.
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I'm still puzzled how they could trade or cut McCoy right now after they've seen so little of Wallace (who got cut by the Saints already and hasn't really had a decent season in years).

not sure what the niners got in return

Wasn't gonna start. Losing playing time to Lemonier.

Seems like a classy move. He'll start in NO and hopefully we get a 4th or 5th out of it.

kinda cheap considering they're getting a starter at a position they badly need.

Were we planning on outright cutting him? He wasn't that big a cap hit.

Oh well. Hope he has a good contract year and gets paid.

Not going to the home opener for the first time in years, but I'm glad my mom and dad are getting to go... I'll be hitting up the Texans game and for sure MNF vs the Falcons... LAST SEASON AT THE STICK!

LET'S GO! LET'S GO! LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing really happened on the first cut down day. Mostly just shifted guys we already knew were injured on to the official reserve lists. So the soonest Manningham, Wright, or Carradine can return to practice is after week 6. Okoye actually got waived but I have a feeling he'll find his way back to the practice squad on Sep. 1st.

Looking at who's left and healthy, I don't see too many controversial battles for the next cuts. Still a ton of WR's left but I think the top 5 of Boldin, Moore, Williams, Patton, and Baldwin are fairly safe so it's just left to Collie, Hawkins, and Hall to show enough to convince the Niners to keep 6 WR's.

Back-up QB competition could have some juice, but I think McCoy and Daniels are likely 2/3 with Wallace set at #1 on the 49ers speed dial should they need to pick up a street FA at QB during the season.

Jewel Hampton may still be pushing Dixon for the 5th RB spot but I still think Dixon earns his way onto the team through special teams. I still think Marqueis Gray is an interesting TE project, if the team trusts McDonald to handle the #2 TE spot maybe Gray can beat out Celek for a roster spot.

Any other battles people are going to be watching for on Thursday?

Seems like the biggest battle left is the long snapper. Jennings going will be kind of sad. The last man to have shared the locker room with Jerry Rice.

#6 WR is sort of academic since whoever it is will almost certainly not be active on game day. I'm guessing it's Hall.

Since Hunter looks 100% gotta assume they go with Dixon for his ST abilities instead of Hampton's marginally better RB skills.

According to the pre-game guys, Wallace is "not a member of the 49ers at this time"

Also, Quinton Patton. Not too shabby.

>Also, Quinton Patton. Not too shabby.

Sad. Zero memorable plays in his 13-year tenure which is why he was perfect at his job.

Not only shared a 49ers roster with Jerry Rice, he was drafted by Bill Walsh!

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/brian-jennings-ive-been-honorably-discharged

Classy way to bow out. He's in good health so somebody will pick him up.

longest tenured niner on the roster, never heard his name on sunday. loved his KNBR shows. hopefully he continues his career elsewhere.

I understand why the Niners wanted to get younger and cheaper at the position but it still hurts a little to see a loyal soldier discharged. He should get picked up somewhere, I can't believe there are 32 better longsnappers than Jennings.