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2125441, You done barked up the wrong tree, dunny
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Feb-04-13 12:35 PM
>John Harbaugh just WON a ring, and you're giving him 0 credit

Oh, sure he might deserve credit. He did fire Cam Cameron,
after all.


But here's the facts:

John Harbaugh's team was limping into the playoffs, basically
relying on the fact that Steelers whole team was in the
hospital. They weren't intimidating anyone, were a guaranteed
early exit.

Caldwell comes in, and Flacco instantly becomes Joe Montana
and the OFFENSE starts winning some games, due to better scheme,
better communication between coordinator and QB, better actual
playcalling, more balance.

Those are FACTS. That is not DEBATABLE.

The Ravens got better the *instant* Caldwell arrived

I'm not simply associating Caldwell with the victory
because he's black and I need black people to be responsible
for the sake of my self esteem. I'm kinda high on self-esteem, sparky.

I'm talking football here, more than I am race.

And I already contrasted John Harbaugh to Jim Harbaugh: I have
actual evidence that Jim is good. I do not have evidence that
John is good. He barely deserved that job to begin with, and
few can deny that the Ravens have been good largely because the
core from the last decade (3 DPOYS on the same unit; 2 guys who
are among the 3 best to ever play their position; ) is intact.
People whiter than you have admitted as much about John Harbaugh
and the Ravens.


>you're crediting the Head Coach for Indy 2010 and the OC for
>Baltimore 2013

Actually, you're lying-

Peyton Manning deserves tons of credit for Indy 2010. I know
that he called the plays. In hindsight, he probably should have
let Caldwell call the plays, because Caldwell obviously knows
that the fuck he's doing.

>you can't be selective with credit and get mad when somebody
>else does it the other way

No, you're an idiot, because you're treating this as a simple
race-baiting case, when I'm actually trying to have a football
discussion-

Caldwell's influence on the Ravens is undeniable.

JIM Harbaugh's influence on the Stanford Cardinal and
San Francisco 49ers is undeniable.

Jim Caldwell was given NO credit for the 2010 Colts and
ALL the blame for the 2011 Colts. And so far, the white
media is UNDERplaying his influence on the 2013 Ravens,
even though its CLEAR that he had a positive influence.




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