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2122068, 1-29-2012 - NBA Night..
Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Jan-29-13 10:47 PM
Golden St @ Cleveland..
Milwaukee @ Detroit..
Dallas @ Portland..
New Orleans @ LA Lakers..

Kobe passin.. nope... passin..
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2122080, Damn, Jarrett Jack ate Kyrie's food
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-29-13 11:00 PM
2122082, Earl mah'fuckin Clark
Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Jan-29-13 11:01 PM

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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2122085, if im Mitch i lock him up cheap now
Posted by LBs Finest, Tue Jan-29-13 11:03 PM
2122086, Clarktastic
Posted by justin_scott, Tue Jan-29-13 11:03 PM
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2122087, this team is sooooooo much better w/ Pau coming off the bench..
Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Jan-29-13 11:05 PM
We really need his scoring & passing w/ the 2nd unit..
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2122099, blueprint right there in front of them: Kobe faciltate, D12 play D/Board
Posted by Bombastic, Tue Jan-29-13 11:22 PM
Nash look for his shot and help when Kobe's in trouble, Pau beast off the bench as their primary post-player/#1 option on the floor versus second units, the rest is gravy is those four fall in line.

Can they sacrifice individual concerns & put ego aside for the sake of the group?

Time will tell but the formula is glaringly obvious now.

They have no excuse to miss the playoffs & possibly make noise in them if they stick to that script.

The question isn't whether they'll stick to it while on this little win streak, the question was whether old habits, finger-pointing & bitchassedness resurface when they finally lose a game to a hot shooting team because they're never gonna be able to play perimeter D worth a damn.

If they're smart, they'll realize that ain't important as long as they stick to the core principles of what they need to do to win together on offense.

Btw, Herb needed a timeout during that 'bench' run with Gasol & Blake out there. He's got a young-ass team, they don't need to rest just because the Lakers first-unit is, that Rivers/Jason Smith trash is gonna get you run out the building before you even bring Gordon/Davis back.
2122122, How long was I ranting about that shit for? Lol
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-30-13 12:26 AM
2122095, This Laker team is 13-3 this season when Kobe shoots less than 20 times
Posted by Bombastic, Tue Jan-29-13 11:15 PM
you can do the math on their record when he shoots 20 or more.

"It could all be soooooo simple,
but you'd rather make it haaaaard,
playing with you is like a battle,
even teammates come out scarrred.

Share Kobe, Share Kobe
Why Don't You Share Kobe?
Care Kobe, Care Kobe
Open Man There, Kobe!"

2122152, They also win about 70% of their games when he scores 40
Posted by El_essence, Wed Jan-30-13 01:18 AM
neither means shit when they weren't playing like these past 3 games all season.
2122154, nah, actually, they're 0-4 this season when he scores 40.
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 01:20 AM
>neither means shit when they weren't playing like these past
>3 games all season.

what's the biggest difference in the past three games, El?

c'mon.
2122156, damn, just sent essence out for a nice lunch.
Posted by Guinness, Wed Jan-30-13 01:33 AM
2122168, wasn't talking about just this season. I was referring to the shot attempts
Posted by El_essence, Wed Jan-30-13 02:53 AM
thing that is always applied to kobe and the lakers. It lacks no nuance at all. Neither does the 40+ ppg thing I mentioned.

The biggest change is Kobe distributing the ball the last 3 games. However, the unspoken implication on your part (as well as others who've thrown similar shot attempt numbers out over the years) is that the sole reason the ball isn't moving is because of Kobe. But you already know the drill. I'll just agree to disagree with you in advance. Because this is where it's heading.
2122176, My stat clearly indicated this team & stands, no need to spin/save face
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 06:46 AM
What this team should do has long since been obvious and since Friday is being done.

14-3 now. Laker win streaks should equate to nice lunches. Bon Appetit.
2122285, my stat didn't.. but my point still remains. how they're playing is
Posted by El_essence, Wed Jan-30-13 12:40 PM
less about shot attempts and more about the way the offense is being orchestrated. Saying "Kobe needs to shoot less" isn't the same as "Kobe play point guard and Nash play off guard" literally no one had that in the cards.

2122289, the first part was certainly in the cards on a common sense level
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 12:47 PM
the second part was a serendipitous byproduct of finally doing the first part out of desperation at Game 40 of the season.

>less about shot attempts and more about the way the offense
>is being orchestrated. Saying "Kobe needs to shoot less" isn't
>the same as "Kobe play point guard and Nash play off guard"
>literally no one had that in the cards.
>
>
2122102, Gordon always plays harder against Kobe.
Posted by haj20, Tue Jan-29-13 11:31 PM
2122110, Wow, how the fuck did Dwight miss that dunk?
Posted by Bombastic, Tue Jan-29-13 11:50 PM
2122115, All-Star David Lee's statline: 20/13/8
Posted by TRENDone, Wed Jan-30-13 12:01 AM
2122119, hickson's such an animal this year.
Posted by Guinness, Wed Jan-30-13 12:13 AM
thank goodness aldridge is doing all the heavy boxing out and allowing him to snatch up countless rebounds.
2122120, Earl mah'fuckin Clark
Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Jan-30-13 12:24 AM

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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2122121, the lakers look like a completely different team, lol
Posted by kayru99, Wed Jan-30-13 12:24 AM
Let's see if Kobe can stick with this "passing" thing people keep talking about, lol

Also, the hornets are brickin' something serious from all over the court
2122123, It had to start somewhere...
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Jan-30-13 12:27 AM
2122124, Team ball gets everyone invested man = collective energy and effort
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-30-13 12:27 AM
Night and day
2122139, oh, I agree. But it's just been funny to see how everybody
Posted by kayru99, Wed Jan-30-13 12:54 AM
in the media just ignored the hell outta that common basketball sense most of the year.

Ball movement keeps everybody involved, and makes everybody pay attention. Less watching and more playing.

2122159, fixed it for you.
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 01:49 AM
>in the media just ignored the hell outta that common
>basketball sense most of the past sixteen and a half years.
>
>Ball movement keeps everybody involved, and makes everybody
>pay attention. Less watching and more playing.
>
>
2122164, HA! Yeah, that too, lol
Posted by kayru99, Wed Jan-30-13 02:07 AM
2122196, so you are saying kobe should have more than 5?
Posted by D_Tox151, Wed Jan-30-13 09:39 AM
2122292, Yes. He has the tools & has had the casts, coaching & city/organization
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 12:53 PM
to net him even more titles than the five they did get over the course of his seventeen seasons.

Don't get me wrong, I'd certainly take the results but it's pretty easy to make that case.
2122298, I can't think of a multiple champ that has had a better collection
Posted by kayru99, Wed Jan-30-13 12:59 PM
of centers on his squads (outside of robert horry, lol)
2122304, combination of coach, post player, desirable location & organization
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 01:39 PM
is the best hand any elite two-guard has had in NBA history.

Played with like two wack rosters in seventeen years & was publically demanding a trade because of it by the second one.

That's taking nothing away from his skills as a player, it's just the reality of what he's been blessed with during his career.
2122219, lol @ the idea of the media "ignoring" the idea that Kobe shoots too
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Jan-30-13 11:04 AM
much

I guess all of them former player talking heads on ESPN (and Time Warner Cable out in L.A) bitching about Kobe's shot selection don't count

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I like whatever The Media™ tells me to like.
2122297, Five days ago cats were discussing trading D12,
Posted by kayru99, Wed Jan-30-13 12:56 PM
before that it was Pau, while bigging up Kobe's numbers.

And not on OKP but everywhere, lol. Matter of fact the only people who haven't gotten heat for the Lakers wackness is Nash and Kobe.

Everybody else been getting blasted.

2122300, More lies. How boring.
Posted by Cold Truth, Wed Jan-30-13 01:13 PM
Perhaps you shouldn't be so blatant and try some subtly with your dishonesty. This isn't even mad worthy, it's just laughable. Kobe has gotten roasted quite a bit and you're a liar if you say otherwise.
2122166, Clarksanity tho...Pau got Alex Smith'd
Posted by TRENDone, Wed Jan-30-13 02:24 AM
2122125, What a finish in Portland....
Posted by BSharp, Wed Jan-30-13 12:30 AM
2122128, Aldridge!!!!
Posted by BSharp, Wed Jan-30-13 12:33 AM
Game-tying three with 4 seconds left....

Game-winning turnaround for the win!!!
2122136, Dude, I don't even know how that shit happened, but Im glad it did...
Posted by BlassFemur, Wed Jan-30-13 12:49 AM
they battled back. This team is really overachieving just by playing hard every game. LA and JJ played great. Lillard has to get that fg% up.
2122144, he's fine.
Posted by Guinness, Wed Jan-30-13 12:58 AM
>Lillard has
>to get that fg% up.

while that would be nice, his TS is 54% -- higher than jrue's and waaaay better than westbrook.
2122147, He wasn't taking bad shots, though...
Posted by BSharp, Wed Jan-30-13 01:06 AM
>Lillard has
>to get that fg% up.

He is a good decision maker, so even though he hasn't been shooting the ball too well, he made two big threes in the second half, and didn't shoot us out of the game.

I'm not discouraged. I'm more discouraged with LMA's shooting percentage, but he's been shooting a little better in the past week or two...
2122146, Video of LMA's game winner
Posted by BSharp, Wed Jan-30-13 01:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwGkzpYdu7U
2122150, not gonna lie, I quit on the game somewhere in the 3rd quarter
Posted by celery77, Wed Jan-30-13 01:11 AM
to watch Moonrise Kingdom instead.

I regret the error.
2122163, just watched the DVR ---> lmao @ LA cracking up after the shot
Posted by celery77, Wed Jan-30-13 01:58 AM
cuz he knew damn well Portland had NO BUSINESS winning that game. they played good basketball for *maybe* 20m out of that 48m game and still got the W. that was nuts.

the way the Blazers play real team ball makes this team fun win or lose.
2122177, Did you see Nic run the other way celebrating...
Posted by BSharp, Wed Jan-30-13 07:39 AM
...the moment the shot left LA's hand?

Awesome.
2122133, Oh shit!
Posted by ErnestLee, Wed Jan-30-13 12:42 AM
2122134, Well we don't quit...thats for sure.
Posted by Kajun, Wed Jan-30-13 12:43 AM
Lets see if we can make this REALLY interesting.
2122143, Vasquez got emotional and it led to that airball shot in transition
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-30-13 12:57 AM
He was mad at the refs for not calling 3 in the key (a legitimate gripe) but then he goes and just tries to force body contact and get a foul call on Nash...easy rebound, Nash 3, lead back to 6. Dude has to keep his head in that situation
2122148, Yup, you nailed it.
Posted by Kajun, Wed Jan-30-13 01:06 AM
That was the game right there. Kobe shoulda been called, but still it was only a 3 pt game. Gotta slow it down and let it go.

Greivis' emotion is a blessing and a curse.
2122160, been that way since at least the Terp days. Still I kinda like your team
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jan-30-13 01:50 AM
going forward.

>
>Greivis' emotion is a blessing and a curse.
2122137, shitty D in the 2nd half but a win is a win.
Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Jan-30-13 12:53 AM
incredible offensive execution the last 3 games....
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2122141, Oh my lord. Phew...had a lull in transition D and NOH caught fire
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-30-13 12:55 AM
Cotdamn...up 1, Kobe surrounded in the paint and somehow finds EC for a layup to go up 3. Vasquez with a really bad force, Nash 3 and it's back in our control.
2122149, nola's also a good team.
Posted by Guinness, Wed Jan-30-13 01:11 AM
8-4 over previous 12 games coming into tonight.
2122165, Including 3/4 on the road, but we got lazy in transition and NOH got looks
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-30-13 02:15 AM
Give a team a team with some shooters some rythym, compound it with missed layups + turnovers, and you have what almost happened to us tonight.
2122170, Pau's complaining about not playing in the 4th...
Posted by mrshow, Wed Jan-30-13 04:37 AM
He should have just said "I really need to work on my free throws."
2122171, Had nothing to do with ft's though. NOH went pretty small
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jan-30-13 04:48 AM
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2122286, just seemed like a mistake to me. By the time shit got crazy
Posted by El_essence, Wed Jan-30-13 12:41 PM
Pau was super cold.