man, if the cavs fuck THIS one up, i'm done.

you pass on klay...then lamb...now, here's a youngin who far better than BOTH.

i swear ta god...they bette take him. and they better take rodney williams later...late first or early second.

him or shabazz, who better?

and who rodney williams?

tubby makin him smart tho...his IQ aint natural tho.

I neither claimed he was a better nba prospect nor do I care about a poor shooting night

Yes.

Too bad Duke isnt in michigan's region...It would be nice to see McGary vs Plumlee and Curry/Cook vs Burke


To be honest, I thought McL was a better athlete with more NBA potential, while Burke was the better college pg.

But now it's not even close anymore.

Burke has that killer instinct while McL is nowhere to be seen in big games.

... that become at best decent pros. There's a reason that the number of terrific college PGs 6'0 and under that go late-first to second faaaaar outweighs the number of college PGs 6'0 and under that go lotto.

Without looking, outside of Chris Paul, who qualifies as a 6' and under PG that went lotto since? Augustin, Telfair, Flynn, Ford... I'm sure I'm missing one.

Not that I think Burke isn't a pro. He would be better than a few teams' starters right away, especially late lotto, mid-first. I just don't see him as your permanent solution at the point, primarily due to size-- a strong backup or sixth man best case scenario, Jonny Flynn worst case scenario.

I would bank on McLemore becoming a better pro than Burke though. That's a no-brainer IMO, not any sort of bold agenda claim.

(This is all outside of the obvious, which is Burke is beasting in this tourney.)

if he didn't have to handle so much of the scoring load himself, I'm positive he would be averaging at least 3-4 more dimes per game...

IDK, McL looks the part, I'm just not sold on his demeanor/make up



>... that become at best decent pros. There's a reason that
>the number of terrific college PGs 6'0 and under that go
>late-first to second faaaaar outweighs the number of college
>PGs 6'0 and under that go lotto.
>
>Without looking, outside of Chris Paul, who qualifies as a 6'
>and under PG that went lotto since? Augustin, Telfair, Flynn,
>Ford... I'm sure I'm missing one.

Mike Conley Jr, a few others..I'll remember when I'm sober

He played terrific basketball nearly all year. Some road woes, but that's not uncommon in freshman shooters. That stroke don't lie.

Conley was younger, so I forgot that he grew an inch or so once drafted. I was also gonna cyse Conley's wingspan, but I think Burke's is probably 6'4, 6'5 too.

He is kind of a throwback, better prospect than his numbers show.

it is EXACTLY what was said. y'all put all that stock in a 6-game tourney and wrote harden off as a subpar athlete and weak-willed player. NOW, in 2013, muhfuckas wanna be friends. it's disgusting.

so, when ernie, the king of "well, who couldn't predict a lottery pick was gonna be good," starts copping pleas next year when b-mac is beasting, him, you and anyone else co-signing need to just suck it up and not depend on this weak ass search function to hide your stupidity.

This is more about Burke and your epically wrong assessments of him. Just awful. Quinn Cook? Seriously? I mean if there's "a Trey Burke every year" how many Quinn Cooks are there? 70? 100?

yeah...i'll stand by it.

He's arguably the best player in the nation. Period. You could not have been more wrong about him. Swing and a miss, you'll get em next time.

on some "i'm the bigger man, but now here is an underhanded comment blaming the player as if my opinion matters" type of thing.

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it was upped because michigan won, right?

Macilginneys only memorable moment of the game was a 90mph fastball at the backboard that went in for 3.

Meanwhile Burke won the game by himself

Also Benny 1 dime failed to cross the bk assist line of 2..... In an OT game

Cuz he did play really well. The only thing that stopped him from being the hero of the game for Kansas was Burke having ice cold water in his veins.

Burke played better, of course, especially because they won. But if Burke misses that one extra long 3, McLemore is the focus of media praise today.

Im not sure he even registered a stat. Ghost.

I don't really blame him for not being aggressive before the end of the second half, as they were sitting on the lead and just letting Elijah do his thing.

In overtime, yeah, he should've gotten the ball, but again, down the stretch it tends to be the Elijah Johnson Show. Didn't he just go iso four of their like six or seven possessions in OT?

I don't blame Ben for that loss. He was the chief reason they opened up a lead in the first place. They obviously should've gotten him the ball more down the stretch and especially in OT.

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... because of Burke's miraculous last minute saving UM?

Again, if Burke misses that shot, no one cares that McLemore was ignored down the stretch. He led the team in scoring on over 50% shooting. He secured them their lead. He's struggled at times away from home, and for most of the game, he didn't.

Kansas just isn't a team that runs their offense through McLemore every play. They run through Johnson, who was horrendous, and who struggled to pass except inexplicably on that last play. If Johnson makes one more free throw in regulation or makes one more pass to an open player instead of chucking a 3, the game is different.

I just struggle to believe that people left that game going "I'm not sure about McLemore as a pro."

Dude got shut down.

And much of the second.

Truthfully, I didn't even pay much attention to the 8 to 2 minute mark in the second half, as the game felt pretty in hand. I had no idea he didn't score during that stretch.

I watched that pretty stroke and I watched that athleticism and height for a 2 guard in action.

I also watched Elijah, as he's done much of the year, go countless possessions without giving the best player the rock. And I watched Elijah blow the game singlehandedly as much as Burke stole it.

not saying that's some sort of indicator that he won't be a good pro but he was horrible in this tournament overall.

But yeah, he'll be a top three pro from this draft. Crazy how good a shooter he is already without having even met his full potential.

as proof of just HOW MANY people truly doubted and hated on b-mac and niggas gonna SWEAR that NOBODY said he wouldn't be a beast. you dudes can really be some bullshit sometimes. it's amazing.

He HAS kinda sucked this tourney. He DID dissapear when it mattered. And Trey Burke, right yesterday, DID outshine him. Like, alot. That and him being a beast in the L are two entirely different things.

If we're hating on B Mac it's for one thing. He didn't show up in the clutch IN THIS GAME.

No one projected that he won't be a star at the next level.
No one said he sucks.


You hated on Burke & Burke busted his @ss in the sweet sixteen & sent his ass home, period. That's all this post is about & you know it.




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*thats* why it was upped.

But still....

i'd honestly forgotten about it, but you got hyped and wanted to talk shit.

great season tho. enjoy his mediocrity at the next level.

classic game. burke has tier 1 court vision and nba range
better college player duh but he still probably gotta cross those fingers for late lotto

this and the Cook agenda are easy Ls

The anti-agenda people are right, this shit is ruining the boards. I can't even say the #1 pick is a better NBA prospect than a mid-lotto guy without everyone saying "OH HE'S JUST PIGGYBACKING BA."

I have zero agendas other than Duke players. Saying one player is a stronger NBA prospect isn't an agenda.

Good grief.

Yes!

today, the only answer is Yes!

you in for the long play

up this post next year

but today

Ls

I didn't say McLemore is better than Burke this season. I already said Burke is the Naismith winner.

But McLemore is clearly the better NBA prospect IMO. I don't see why that puts me in a "camp" for stating the obvious.

The Duke shit, fine. I ride for Duke players-- duh, I went there. It's to be expected.

But all this other shit? C'mon.

history i'm unaware of
but the thread is describing burke as "wack" and positioning him against mclemore when i haven't seen a single mock draft with burke projected higher
why does this thread even exist? it's basically a manufactured agenda. a low risk one at that.
saying mclemore is a better nba prospect is not outlandish but trying to minimize burke's performance in that game kinda is
especially when it's only being done so that the bags doesn't look stupid as ppl party


and burke is ballin again today, good for him

There's no argument to be made that Burke has been worse *this season* than McLemore. Burke is at absolute worst a top three player this season, and I think he's been the best.

I was merely arguing that McLemore's game the other day, despite the absence of shots late, wasn't the disaster people are making it out to be-- in fact, he played quite well overall. Elijah Johnson wrecked the game, not McLemore.

Nowhere did I say that McLemore played better than Burke. Cuz he didn't. Burke was a beast.

Cooked

Ba moved the goalposts to the "#1" NBA prospect

which is a defeated agenda to begin with

some hypothetical future projection BS that couldn't even be argued to begin with

what can't be argued is whether or not Burke is better TODAY!!!

do we even know if McLemore will be the #1 pick, NO

do we even know if CLE would draft McLemore, NO

this whole post is struggle

about the top prospect in this draft, certainly the guy i'd want.

that probably makes you nervous.

but yes, i am being serious and said it during the preseason tourneys as well.

there are a few guys i havent seen that much of but i'd definitely take him over the other wing guys out there (e.g. shabazz). it's tempting to go for a big guy but i don't think there is anyone #1 overall good.

and that shot was a shaky ass floater that happened to go in....this kid (B-Mac) is a lot like Ray, except he is going to go pro after one year...so the question is, when and how will he be able to develop like Ray did? What if he ends up in Sacramento/Seattle?

Trey Burke is good, but I don't see him being a future hall of famer, and with B-Mac, if he goes to the wrong organization, he will be set back 3-5 years before he MIGHT get a chance to realize his potential.


Reason #181781 why this agenda trading card red hand gang bullshit sucks.

Search works fine.

i know you were REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping your michigan kid would beat him out for that spot (yeah, you thought about the angle), but b-mac coming around...just like rivers...just like bennett.

and when the time comes, you will be among those who will have to answer for what you said. but rather than simply doing that, i know i'll have to scratch and claw for a simple "i was wrong."

trey a goomba, by the way...he's a walking talking Dante Exum test dummy.

i've said kyrie was gonna be better than isiah, dude. it's what i do. both mine. *shrug*

Win some lose some.

who couldn't predict a lottery pick would be a star? YOU MOTHERFUCKAS, THAT'S WHO? YOU ALL DIDN'T PREDICT HARDEN, LOVE, GRIFF, KLAY would be ****STARS****….i did.

his conditioning its a wrap.

The fact that it hasnt happened by XMas of Stauskas's rookie year has no impact on my confidence in this

I was really disappointed in B-Mac's rookie year (I had a convo on here about how Sac wouldn't let him go hard last year) but it was just the fact he wasn't ready yet. Now that he's been in the league a year, you can tell he's comfortable in what he can do AND he spent the summer getting better.

Dude is coming and a few folx better watch themselves.

I'd take him on the Bulls in a heartbeat.

SMH...whatever.