Who you got?







Hi, haters.

Poll question: The Dynasties: '94-'97 Nebraska vs. '09-'12 Alabama

Poll result (22 votes) Nebraska (16 votes) Vote Alabama (6 votes) Vote

with scholarship limitations.
in the most dominant conference in years.
a conference that has won 7 straight titles.
Bama is the gold standard and if Saban stays,
man. this is 80's Miami shit without the .... ya know.

but Nebraska's run was epic. sure the '97 title
was a split but we didn't win our division or conference
in '11. every run involves some luck.

>with scholarship limitations.

All snark aside, congrats for real.

I hope we get to square off with you guys before Saban leaves for Texas or the NFL.

I still think Nebraska gets a slight edge in terms of the all time great dynasties.



______________________
Young Jeezy- It's Tha World
Raekwon - Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
Obie Trice - Cheers

Back in the day, you could have like 125.
You guys are just....I don't know. Roll Tide?

teams with 100+ scholarship players, today every other team is dealing with those limitations.

sometimes the whole "salary cap era" thing comes into play talking about dynasties, but where you can just refill your slots every year and everyone plays by the same rules? eh, doesn't strike me the same way, sorry.

http://www.google.com/search?q=alabama+oversigning&oq=alabama+oversigning&sugexp=chrome,mod=10&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

dont play dumb

true statement

don't miss: Signing players is different from the NCAA limit on the amount of
student athletes you can have on scholarship. If you have 65 players
on scholarship and you sign 22 and only 20 qualify academically,
then you have 85 players on scholarship. Got it? Good.

what does that have to do with my original point, that
it's now 85 vs. 85 as opposed to 105 vs. 65? This point
was made in reference to the previous dynasties of
the 40s (Notre Dame) and 70s (Bama). Not sure what
the rules were in the 90s.

If you're butt hurt at saban and Bama's success just say that.
But you're getting nowhere here. I don't know why people don't
just learn from saban and try to apply his process to their lives.
That's what I plan to do. The guy is an amazing example of
superb discipline and focus and organization. Don't hate, appreciate.

he has signed 100 recruits in the last 4 classes

i mean cmon

>he has signed 100 recruits in the last 4 classes
>
>i mean cmon

the years were 26, 22, 27, 27

You're not taking into account graduation and early
entrants to the nfl. The numbers work themselves out.
I'm done with you. There are people who need my attention.
I'm wasting time on you.

Hell of a run, major props on that, but extremely lucky as well.

You don't win 2 of these titles pre-BCS (for better or worse, but true).


Nebraska and their 3 undefeated seasons in 4 years clearly takes this.

>Hell of a run, major props on that, but extremely lucky as
>well.
can't win championships without luck.

>You don't win 2 of these titles pre-BCS (for better or worse,
>but true).

everything should be examined within the context of the system
that exists at the time.

>
>Nebraska and their 3 undefeated seasons in 4 years clearly
>takes this.

but compare the big 8 or 12 or whatever with the SEC right now.
look at how tough the SEC West is. The SEC. 7 straight titles.
Parity. a system that guaranteed 1 vs 2. clearly? really?

A National Championship without even winning your division is so far below what Nebraska accomplished its ridiculous. The amount of luck involved in these last 2 "championships" is laughable. You needed other teams to trip over their own feet for you to even get in the game in 2 straight years.

Nebraska simply WON ALL THEIR GAMES.

Here are the rankings of teams Nebraska beat in their undefeated seasons:

1994: (2, 3, 13, 16, 24)
1995: (2, 7, 8, 10)
1997: (2, 3, 14, 17)

Nebraska beat the #2 ranked team in all 3 seasons, and the #3 ranked team twice. So there goes that argument. They played tough schedules, period.

They went undefeated 3 times, no luck needed win you win em all. Unlike Bama which lost AT HOME in each year of its last two titles.

>A National Championship without even winning your division is
>so far below what Nebraska accomplished its ridiculous. The
>amount of luck involved in these last 2 "championships" is
>laughable. You needed other teams to trip over their own feet
>for you to even get in the game in 2 straight years.
>
>Nebraska simply WON ALL THEIR GAMES.
>
>Here are the rankings of teams Nebraska beat in their
>undefeated seasons:
>
>1994: (2, 3, 13, 16, 24)
>1995: (2, 7, 8, 10)
>1997: (2, 3, 14, 17)
>
>Nebraska beat the #2 ranked team in all 3 seasons, and the #3
>ranked team twice. So there goes that argument. They played
>tough schedules, period.
>
>They went undefeated 3 times, no luck needed win you win em
>all. Unlike Bama which lost AT HOME in each year of its last
>two titles.
>
>
>
>
>
>

You want it both ways and you're just arguing every point in favor of Bama, mostly with insults to other posters. Is this sports or politics?

got snubbed from the title game in 2000, and shoulda won back to back after that.

Nebraska also had 3 undefeated seasons during that time


ALABAMA (2009-12)

Record: 49-5

Wins over Top 25 teams: 19

Wins over Top 10 teams: 12

Average scoring margin: 24.2

Wins decided by 7 points or less: Five

Losses: at South Carolina (2010), at LSU (’10), Auburn (’10), LSU (’11), Texas A&M (’12)

All-Americans: Mark Ingram (’09), Mike Johnson (’09), Terrence Cody (’09), Rolando McClain (‘09), Javier Arenas (’09), Leigh Tiffin (’09), Dont’a Hightower (’11), Mark Barron (’11), Trent Richardson (’11), Courtney Upshaw (’11), Dre Kirkpatrick (’11), Barrett Jones (’11, ’12), D.J. Fluker (’12), Chance Warmack (’12), C.J. Mosley (’12), Dee Milliner (’12)

NEBRASKA (1994-97)

Record: 49-2

Wins over Top 25 teams: 17

Wins over Top 10 teams: 10

Average scoring margin: 30.1

Wins decided by 7 points or less: Four

Losses: at Arizona State (’96), Texas (’96)

All-Americans: Zach Wiegert (’94), Brendan Stai (’94), Ed Stewart (’94), Tommie Frazier (’95), Aaron Graham (’95), Jared Tomich (’95, ‘96), Aaron Taylor (’96, ‘97), Grant Wistrom (’96, ‘97), Jason Peter (’97)

but have still managed to maintain in what I believe to be
a more difficult conference. Plus a conference championship game
in a conference experiencing unprecedented dominance.
7 chips in a row.

Sure we lost at home but we haven't lost on the road since 2010.

Advantage: Tide.

they should be thankful Alabama won because there were cracks in the foundation this year

furthermore NU's resume is better than the Tide's

* preseason

a kingpin in LSU getting taken down by an ACC squad

USC and UGA having to sweat until the 4th quarter against two schools with inferior talent

Alabama had a great bowl season, the SEC, unlike in past years, did not look that special against other leagues under the microscope

why are we even talking about them in the same breath as Bama?

94 being the most dominant football team of all time

______________________
Young Jeezy- It's Tha World
Raekwon - Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
Obie Trice - Cheers

Michigan was actually the far bigger travesty, since Osbourne announced his retirement a month early to steal sympathy votes away from the real best team.

you don't have a clue, or just forgot the beatdown over Tennessee and Peyton Manning

that and Michigan's outstanding defense but mediocre offense that would have been shutdown entirely

you are still mad

it's not like peyton lost every big game he played in college or anything. foh with that noise. michigan was ranked number 1 in both polls, osbourne manipulated the voters' emotions, and the voters fell for it.

butthurt that his boy didnt win the Heisman

If Michigan takes care of business against a mediocre Washington State squad it isn't an issue instead of sweating out clock management issues at the end

FOH

Baylor and Colorado combined for 6...total...against UM

Michigan had like 20 guys on that team that each spent >5 years in the NFL

Nebraska didnt even have half of that

and the mediocre offense you mentioned never scored less than 20, and put multiple skill players in the league

lol

you really don't want to do the comparison, which is why Vegas oddsmakers for Nebraska looked like Alabama's over Notre Dame

We can really blame it all on the Big Ten being too stupid and myopic to leave the Rose Bowl tie-in earlier.

There were a boatload of 'Huskers that went to the NFL during that time too not that it is a defining point.

17-14 UCF at the half

Nebraska beat Mizzou 45-38

and Colorado 27-24

thats not garbage time.

and for your pros i see Ahman Green...then Mike Brown...then Grant Wistrom and KVB (neither of whome have more career sacks than James Hall)

not a long list of contributors

i got a private tour of huskers stadium and wrote that in their guestbook.

teams were and the fact that Alabama has lost games in two of their national championship years.

BUT we could just be in the middle of Alabama's run. There's no signs of it stopping any time soon. As long as Saban is there they will be in contention for a chip and it could end up being a run unlike anything we've seen before. The only thing that could stop them is if they have one loss during the year and get left out of the championship game, but that's gonna be harder going forward with the playoff system.