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2104620, Nuggets @ Lakers
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 10:19 PM
The individual perimeter D is a fucking joke. I can't even put any blame on the rotations because these guys are getting beaten so quickly, there isn't even a rotation in place. I mean Nash is doing a better job on Lawso than Kobe or Meeks on their men. Meeks falls for ANY movement, dude is retarded defensively. You can't simply matador on the perimeter and hope the help rotation bails you out. Shit is pathetic. The screen-roll D is pathetic as always.
2104622, Jodie Meeks is a one skill player who isn't that good at that skill
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jan-06-13 10:28 PM
enjoy!
2104631, He's been one of the best set shooters in the league, % wise
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 10:44 PM
He was the best last year, and I believe he's hovering around the top this year. All we need from him is to hit those set jumpers and play more than a split seconds worth of individual D. Problem is when dude tries to shoot off the dribble, dribble into traffic, jump at any kind of jab or ball fake, etc.

Shoot when set and fucking defend. Know your role man. Damn.
2104628, 11 turnovers, 10 off boards, 28 points in the paint allowed..in the 1st half
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 10:42 PM
We are playing incredibly efficient on the offensive end (shooting 58%) but can't get stops or defensive rebounds with any fucking consistency. What do the latter two have in common? EFFORT.

This half pretty munched summed up our season...great offensively, but commit unforced errors along with terrible man-man perimeter defense and weak-side defensive rebounding.
2104629, finally Jamison plays
Posted by LBs Finest, Sun Jan-06-13 10:42 PM
2104633, Played 3 mins last game. Worst defender on the team, team & individual
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 10:45 PM
2104632, Waiting patiently for the comedy that is Javelle McGhee
Posted by Beezo, Sun Jan-06-13 10:45 PM
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2104643, gawd damn Pau.. nga breakin backboards w/ dem bricks..
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Jan-06-13 11:02 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104648, Pau has had 3-4 chances to post up this quarter and hasn't
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:11 PM
This is another reason I find it hilarious when dude asks for and people complain about his low post touches...he doesn't take the fucking initiative when the chance is there. Within this system, players have to recognize and react.
2104655, *3 dribbles vs Fareed*
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Jan-06-13 11:19 PM
Nah, I'll pass it out to Duhon for 3... lol
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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104645, even when McGee makes a good play it's still goofy.. lol
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Jan-06-13 11:06 PM
Nga punched the ball out of bounds out of the view of the camera.. lol
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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104647, Nash is so good, it's ridiculous
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:07 PM
2104653, that dime when he was double teamed on the baseline...
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Jan-06-13 11:16 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104657, WIDE OPEN looks and these guys can't make shit
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:23 PM
2104668, getting pretty sick of Odie Meeks
Posted by Kungset, Sun Jan-06-13 11:34 PM
2104663, shit is horrible to watch
Posted by las raises, Sun Jan-06-13 11:28 PM
2104671, Laker fans how do you bear to watch this team
Posted by MothershipConnection, Sun Jan-06-13 11:35 PM
Their offense is actually pretty efficient and they can defend if they really really try but I swear these dudes spot the other team like 20 points a game off of dumb turnovers, not getting back on D, and minimal effort on the boards.
2104680, i tell myself shattered expectations and disappointment build character
Posted by Kungset, Sun Jan-06-13 11:44 PM
but really though, i just turned off the TV in the 4th quarter. not good for my health.
2104731, That's what makes it frustrating because they show signs that they
Posted by El_essence, Mon Jan-07-13 12:28 AM
can be extremely dangerous. But they're getting to a point where they look defeated. All of them.
2104673, Honestly, this team as constructed is done
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:35 PM
If we don't get some perimeter defenders and athleticism, we're toast. I'm talking fighting to make the playoffs, the team is that poor.
2104676, Dwight keeps bringing the damn ball down below his waist
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:39 PM
Results in either a turnover or a foul.
2104684, HOW HARD IS IT TO TALK DEFENSIVELY???
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:46 PM
Switch! I got yours! Turn, turn!

Shit is simple fucking everyday fucking basketball man. Open your fucking mouth and use your cotdamn words man.
2104687, Gallo is friggin terrible
Posted by MothershipConnection, Sun Jan-06-13 11:47 PM
Dude is playing like he owes D'Antoni a favor for drafting him so high.
2104700, My bad.
Posted by MothershipConnection, Sun Jan-06-13 11:59 PM
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2104692, SMH @ Dwight
Posted by ChampAreno, Sun Jan-06-13 11:52 PM
lost the game right there
2104693, Pau's nose was already terrible. Not helping
Posted by veritas, Sun Jan-06-13 11:52 PM
Wow.
2104694, And that Dwight turnover pretty much sums up everything
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:52 PM
Defensive rebound, throws the ball into Mcgee's hand, Lawson gets the ball back, Denver scores. Game over...just as we might have had a chance.
2104695, Wow, just gave that shit away
Posted by BlassFemur, Sun Jan-06-13 11:52 PM
2104696, Finding new ways to lose
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:53 PM
2104697, And now Pau gets his nose busted. *sigh*
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:55 PM
I mean, what else can go wrong man. Jesus fucking Christ.
2104698, man we some bullshit..
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Jan-06-13 11:56 PM
No defense...
Old/Limited athleticism
Near the bottom of the league in turnovers..
Near the bottom of the league in FT shooting..
Awful bench...


If we don't make a few moves I doubt this team makes the playoffs less known compete for anything significant..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104699, Of course man. Of fucking course
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jan-06-13 11:58 PM
2104701, Theme music for that last shot just now
Posted by Numba_33, Sun Jan-06-13 11:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0FAosDi4XA
2104702, Don't defend, don't defensive rebound, don't win
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:05 AM
Again, this roster and season is over unless we make a trade.
2104703, LOLAKERSLOL
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Jan-07-13 12:06 AM
nigga yall pathetic..dwight cmon to the rox lets get this rang..
2104706, RE: LOLAKERSLOL
Posted by murph71, Mon Jan-07-13 12:08 AM
>nigga yall pathetic..dwight cmon to the rox lets get this
>rang..


I can see this happening...

Hell, maybe the Bulls need to make a run at him...
2104704, 3 games back
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Jan-07-13 12:06 AM
Jazz.
Portland
Denver
Hou and
Gstate

Are gonna be the teams they're battling with.

I still think their a playoff team but at this point sneaking into 8th or 7th and knocking off one of the favorites would be a successful season right today.
2104705, this is not a playoff team as currently constructed.. it's just not...
Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Jan-07-13 12:07 AM

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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104743, And THAT's A Damn Shame
Posted by RexLongfellow, Mon Jan-07-13 12:39 AM
There's no way in hell this team shouldn't compete for a playoff spot, let alone home court advantage.

2105059, too much old.. need a mix of young legs
Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Jan-07-13 02:29 PM


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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104707, thats if nobody get hurt..
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Jan-07-13 12:08 AM
.if they have one injury ..lottery
2104710, Doesn't matter if we sneak in or not. Team isn't winning shit of note
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:09 AM
As constructed.
2104713, base. We need at least 2 younger players added to the roster
Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Jan-07-13 12:11 AM
Ideally 3 or 4...
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104716, why would any good young player want to be on this team?
Posted by rob, Mon Jan-07-13 12:13 AM
and how would they thrive?

they'd be scapegoats before they learned how to play.
2104718, Huh? It's called a contract
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:15 AM
We have to make a trade and it's going to involve Pau.
2104756, again. what makes you think they would thrive?
Posted by rob, Mon Jan-07-13 01:09 AM
2104758, Don't have to 'thrive'. We need role support players
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 01:18 AM
Provide resistance defensively, rotate, box out, fill the lanes, just compete man.
2104766, you need kobe gone so they can stop grasping at straws
Posted by rob, Mon Jan-07-13 02:01 AM
2104781, Oh, so this is about a Kobe agenda
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 04:59 AM
Shoulda just said that shit outright from the jump and I wouldn't have wasted my time.
2105087, it's going to stay about that until it isn't the root
Posted by rob, Mon Jan-07-13 02:49 PM
of their roster and coaching issues.
2104747, Do you think things would've been different with Phil?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-07-13 12:47 AM
2104750, At this point, not really
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:51 AM
Our offense wouldn't be as efficient and we still wouldn't be able to guard anyone. Nash would be minimized, Dwight's lack of post game would be even more prominent and we saw how Pau played in the triangle his final playoffs under Phil, after Bynum's emergence.

Mitch made a couple serious mistakes in not going after Pietrus and Barbosa.
2104708, my ladyfriend got beautiful Laker Hate
Posted by veritas, Mon Jan-07-13 12:08 AM
she had just gone to bed, but definitely wasn't asleep.

me: "wanna see Pau Gasol bleed from the face?"

her: "YEP!" <sprints into living room>
2104725, LMAO. Marry that woman, like for reals.
Posted by spawn2k, Mon Jan-07-13 12:19 AM
2104926, "I blame hip hop" worked particularly well here...
Posted by BSharp, Mon Jan-07-13 12:17 PM
...not that it doesn't always work, because it does.
2104719, only bad thing bout the Nash trade was it took Pau off the trading block
Posted by LBs Finest, Mon Jan-07-13 12:15 AM
(i don't know why). but he needs to be made available again, in fact Mitch really should've been shopping him the second we hired D'Antoni.

not trading him for Josh Smith when they had the chance might come back to hurt us.
2104723, the bad thing about the nash trade is nash...nigga he old
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Jan-07-13 12:18 AM
cant guard a fkng parking meter...
2104727, Our other option was Sessions...who is a worse defender than Nash
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:21 AM
And a worse shooter, ball handler, leader, etc.
2104726, Because Nash was promised a chance to play with Pau
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:20 AM
What really hurt was Nash's injury so we would have known far earlier that Pau simply can't play in this structure, Nash or not. I'd bet my balls that Mitch is shopping Pau after seeing this past week of games.
2104729, we are ass....wow. I'm assuming I wasn't the only one who knew
Posted by El_essence, Mon Jan-07-13 12:24 AM
Galinari was hitting that three off the Dwight block right?
2104734, O I think everyone knew it was going in
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:30 AM
Been that kind of season
2104736, I'ma need Nash to shoot more 3s too nm
Posted by El_essence, Mon Jan-07-13 12:32 AM
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2104740, Shoot more in general really n/m
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:35 AM
2104748, did he shoot once after that beautiful backwards teardrop?
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Jan-07-13 12:50 AM
2104753, Once...jumper off a screen, going to his right. But that's it
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 12:54 AM
2104744, Yeah this sucks.
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Jan-07-13 12:42 AM
2104751, "The Lakers ain't got no athletics." © Magic
Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jan-07-13 12:52 AM
(yes, he actually said that)

No, I didn't watch the game

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2104763, LOL.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jan-07-13 01:50 AM
2104767, My Man© Magic
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Jan-07-13 02:02 AM
2104833, oh, magic...always thowin' da ball
Posted by Basaglia, Mon Jan-07-13 09:56 AM
2104840, LMAO
Posted by Lach, Mon Jan-07-13 10:37 AM
2105061, lol.. don't care.... that's my dude.. lolololol
Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Jan-07-13 02:30 PM

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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html
2104761, 'Talk is cheap and we don't believe it anymore' - Big Game James
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 01:39 AM
Dude has been great tonight. He's as flabbergasted as the rest of us.
2104770, That dude was hot and exasperated at the same time
Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jan-07-13 02:15 AM
"Something's rotten on this team, and I can't figure it out... whether it's in the locker room or what... this team doesn't believe in themselves, they don't believe in one another..."

And he pretty much wanted to say, "All that shit they're talking is bullshit" after every player interview

And he's 100% right, he's been 100% right since October, just as Kurt has been when he's been doing the games

Also, the Twitter segments with Andy Adler are a complete waste of everybody's time, especially since the Tweets don't say much of anything

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2104769, lakers next 3. Houston, San Antonio, OKC. bad moon rising.
Posted by themaddfapper, Mon Jan-07-13 02:10 AM
2104773, losing 7-9 of their next 11 seems decidedly possible
Posted by veritas, Mon Jan-07-13 02:51 AM
dropping to 19-25 or worse could be too much to overcome.

at any rate, it's certainly good theater for us laker haters.
2104782, If Mitch waits until the trade deadline to deal Pau, the season is over
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 05:00 AM
We are 3 games back of the playoffs with by far the hardest schedule in January of the potential 5-8 teams.
2104932, lol if you think that is going to save the team
Posted by D_Tox151, Mon Jan-07-13 12:22 PM
laker fans moved from 'when nash gets back, everything will be all right to' to now 'we just need to trade pau and everything will be fixed'.

this teams issues are much deeper than just pau.
2104938, Actually, I read that as him saying that the Lakers won't make
Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jan-07-13 12:25 PM
the playoffs, because trading Pau would be a signal that the Lakers have given up on the season, since any new players would have to come in and get quickly acclimated to the system

Or at least that's how I interpreted that sentence

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2105120, Keep putting words in my mouth, where did I say 'save the season'?
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 03:10 PM
This team, with Pau, is done...that's clear as the beauitful day in LA today. I was saying that if we have any chance of even getting to the playoffs, Pau has to be deal sooner rather than later. Did I say everything will be fine or saved? No, but go on using extremes because it's easier than actually reading.
2104784, Denver had 101 shot attempts. LA had 82.
Posted by d., Mon Jan-07-13 06:09 AM
tf?
2104790, Their called Turnovers and Offensive Rebounds, lol
Posted by Szabo, Mon Jan-07-13 07:55 AM
2104796, old men trying to play run-n-shoot ball against young boys
Posted by kayru99, Mon Jan-07-13 08:33 AM
get ran.

*shrug*
2104936, but but its the laker defense thats the problem!
Posted by D_Tox151, Mon Jan-07-13 12:24 PM
2104942, It actually is the problem, chief
Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jan-07-13 12:29 PM
Along with giving up offensive rebounds and lack of transition defense

Don't believe everything that ESPN is trying to sell you on

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2104957, defense isn't the ONLY problem
Posted by D_Tox151, Mon Jan-07-13 12:43 PM
its a given they need to fix that up.

but anybody who thinks that the offense is just fine (and citing their league leading stats in offensive categories) is wrong.

their offensive issues are compounding their problems on defense.
2105103, you can't run a fast break offense with old and slow
Posted by kayru99, Mon Jan-07-13 02:57 PM
guards and forwards.

Its gonna give other teams more uncontested possessions, and fuck your defense up.

Offense and defense in Bball feed each other pretty heavily.
2105124, Turnovers and offensive boards.
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-07-13 03:12 PM
10 more shots off turnover differential and 5 more off offensive rebounding differential.
2104831, Keep your heads up Laker Nation, Blake has your back.
Posted by haj20, Mon Jan-07-13 09:53 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A__OqeoCAAI5fLD.jpg
2104845, well damn...at least Kobe can play with Nash huh...
Posted by southphillyman, Mon Jan-07-13 10:49 AM
bwhhahahahah