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2101549, can someone explain why these coaches are being considered? Posted by Binlahab, Tue Jan-01-13 06:44 PM
like...reid from philly is already considered a shoo in @ zona.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8800439/andy-reid-favorite-become-arizona-cardinals-coach-sources
the hell for?
whats he done?
lovie. made ONE super bowl. hasnt been back or even close. 4 teams are on contact w/ him.
the fck for?
do or die
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2101551, Ummm because they are good coaches? Posted by The Real, Tue Jan-01-13 06:45 PM
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2101558, *explains* Posted by Kira, Tue Jan-01-13 07:17 PM
Reid is considered a shoo-in for Arizona because he's a proven winner that brings stability to an organization across the board. He's rumored to bring Chilly as offensive coordinator, Juan Castillo as offensive line coach, Pat Shurmur as an assistant and Tom Hecket as GM. If Horton stays that legitimizes the cardinals as a stable organization.
Lovie just won 10 games and took the Bears to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. He overachieved last year. Therefore, he's in demand.
Ken Whisenhunt took the cardinals to a Super Bowl and that's all that matters.
Mike McCoy survived games with a fullback playing out of position and successfully made use of backs most of us thought were done.
I'm clueless as to why Doug Marrone, Horton and Chip Kelly are considered for any position. That Oregon offense might not work in the big boy league. Horton's defense sucked this year. It was horrible.
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2101560, Your Reid explanation is spot on. Your Lovie is only partly right. Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-01-13 07:24 PM
>Reid is considered a shoo-in for Arizona because he's a >proven winner that brings stability to an organization across >the board. He's rumored to bring Chilly as offensive >coordinator, Juan Castillo as offensive line coach, Pat >Shurmur as an assistant and Tom Hecket as GM. If Horton stays >that legitimizes the cardinals as a stable organization. > >Lovie just won 10 games and took the Bears to the Super Bowl >with Rex Grossman. He overachieved last year. Therefore, he's >in demand.
Lovie is a football's guy, football guy. Everyone he has coached speaks to his impact on their professional development. He's HIGHLY regarded by players, not for being lax, but for being respectful yet demanding. Guys like Urlacher, who are always outspoken and critical of people (he barked at Gale Sayers, for god's sakes) always had great things to say about Lovie.
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2101561, Marrone was the Saints OC Posted by DJR, Tue Jan-01-13 07:29 PM
Cuse had become one of the worst programs in the nation at the time he took over, and he turned it around. .500 career record doesn't look great on the surface, but look at what he inherited and where the program is trending right now.
In a league where guys like Chan Gailey, Norv Turner, Dave Wannstedt, etc. have gotten multiple head coaching opportunities and failed at all of them, what's wrong with hiring a guy who had success as an NFL OC and college head coach?
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2101564, I don't want him as a Browns coach but... Posted by Kira, Tue Jan-01-13 07:41 PM
>Cuse had become one of the worst programs in the nation at >the time he took over, and he turned it around. .500 career >record doesn't look great on the surface, but look at what he >inherited and where the program is trending right now. > >In a league where guys like Chan Gailey, Norv Turner, Dave >Wannstedt, etc. have gotten multiple head coaching >opportunities and failed at all of them, what's wrong with >hiring a guy who had success as an NFL OC and college head >coach? > >
I kind of see where you're coming from. Everyone needs a shot at some point. FWIW, he might turn out to be a great head coach.
However, the Browns need someone who can do more with less. Drew Brees ain't walking through that door anytime soon so IMHO we need another guy.
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2101571, Plus the Cardinals have a history of taking Philly retreads Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jan-01-13 07:50 PM
Lest we not forget the 90s with Seth Joyner, Clyde Simmons, Andre Waters, Buddy Ryan, et al.
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2101742, Lest we not forget? Are you a Stern Fan? Posted by muzuabo, Tue Jan-01-13 11:56 PM
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2102076, David Stern? Howard Stern? Well whatever, the answer is no Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Jan-02-13 02:52 PM
Dunno, I thought that was a common phrase
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2101577, wat...no. Posted by will_5198, Tue Jan-01-13 07:58 PM
>Horton's defense sucked this year. >It was horrible.
they were the second toughest defense to convert third downs against, were second in interceptions, 12th in yards and 17th in points allowed per game* -- which is amazing, considering they played with the most inept offense in the NFL.
*if you subtract the seven (!) touchdowns opposing defenses scored by interception and fumble returns, Arizona would've had the sixth-best scoring defense in the NFL.
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2101582, naw son. Posted by Flash80, Tue Jan-01-13 08:09 PM
they cards D was solid, given what they were dealt.
oh and daryl washington's a fucking stud.
they need/needed a QB who can *cough* manage the game and not turn the ball over. that's why the 'alex smith to AZ' talk has been floating around.
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2101903, Kelly/Oregon Posted by sfMatt, Wed Jan-02-13 11:40 AM
Chip Kelly isn't in demand because of his offense, he's in demand because everybody that comes out to watch him coach and operate his team/program is blown away by what they see. He is meticulous, competitive as hell, and everything about Oregon football right now is made in his image. GMs are interested in him because they've visited Eugene, and been amazed at how practice is conducted, and how his players respond to him. (And obviously his belief in tempo as a weapon is starting to spread to other coaches in the pros, which plays a big part in the hype.) Kelly won't run the Oregon offense in the NFL unless it makes sense based on the personnel available. He's a football coach. He coached defense for years, and he only started using spread-option stuff at New Hampshire after they realized they weren't able to find fullbacks anymore.
>That Oregon offense might not >work in the big boy league.
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2102150, yeah. NE's offense is awful Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Jan-02-13 04:40 PM
>That Oregon offense might not >work in the big boy league.
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2101566, You're aware how few coaches there are with titles right? Posted by Y2Flound, Tue Jan-01-13 07:45 PM
Can't stand this win a title or you're worthless BS.
Titles are the #1 thing, not making any excuse for anyone, but not having a title does not mean you have done nothing.
14 years with a good record, lots of division titles and playoff wins is a big deal, especially in today's NFL and especially for a team that does not have a winning tradition.
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2101568, RE: can someone explain why these coaches are being considered? Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Tue Jan-01-13 07:48 PM
You are factually incorrect anyway.
Lovie took an overachieving squad to the NFC Championship game 2 years ago.
That's "not even close"?
Is there some other game before the Super Bowl that I don't know about?
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2101570, lol you cant be serious, sit the fuck down Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jan-01-13 07:49 PM
Andy Reid had more playoff victories in his tenure with the Eagles than the Oilers and Texans have COMBINED in franchise history (Reid with 10, Oilers with 8 and Texans with 1). He went to FIVE title games and a Super Bowl. He is easily one of the ten most successful coaches in the NFL and, as you'd imagine, most of the others are not available.
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2101703, always been the good ol boys network Posted by AlBundy, Tue Jan-01-13 10:40 PM
coaches get recycled more than grocery bags
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2102168, yup Posted by roaches, Wed Jan-02-13 05:11 PM
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2101709, I hope Reid takes the AZ job and dumps the D.Coordinator Posted by southphillyman, Tue Jan-01-13 11:01 PM
shit will be comedy (for me)
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2101908, Watch Reid Try To Run The Ball With Wells/Powell Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jan-02-13 11:55 AM
Just to piss Philly fans off If that happens, I know Philly fans will be having those Jim Halpert in the camera looks of bewilderment
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2101990, Reid will prolly keep the DC Posted by HeadNodda, Wed Jan-02-13 01:18 PM
unless he already has someone in mind. That's what made the Reid/Johnson Dynamic work. He let Johnson run the defense while he ran the offense. I seem him returning to that style.
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2101723, Reid in Arizona may do good for them Posted by mtbatol, Tue Jan-01-13 11:18 PM
May be even better if they restrict his personnel powers since, he just didn't make the best moves with said power
Cards won't do any worst & I actually wish the best for Andy so kudos to them.
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2102129, Andy in 'Zona would be crazy Posted by OldPro, Wed Jan-02-13 04:08 PM
talk about a power coaches division
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