years and had better coaching and that went out the window.

Ray Allen, Chauncey, Paul pierce and even melo now come to mind.

Being a bad on the ball defender is one thing, but everyone can rotate properly, take better angles, be more aware etc.

in reference to amare, i'm not sure how being on the bench is a distraction and why he couldn't do his conditioning etc earlier. and be on the bench during games? not even all home games, but he was never there.