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Topic subjectSo where are we all currently at on the whole "Kobe can't play with a pg" thing
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2099715, So where are we all currently at on the whole "Kobe can't play with a pg" thing
Posted by El_essence, Sat Dec-29-12 02:03 PM
Just curious.
2099716, Was that ever a thing? I don't keep track.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Dec-29-12 02:07 PM
I remember Laker fans saying the total lack of PG was holding them back... was the rebuttal that Kobe can't play with a PG?
2099717, Definitely a thing. The assumption:
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Dec-29-12 02:16 PM
Kobe wanted and needed the ball in his hands at all times to operate.

The offense has to go through Kobe or he'll throw a tantrum. Or pout on the bench in game 7 again.

Kobe is going to keep Steve Nash from being Steve Nash.

Silly shit from people who don't watch Kobe play basketball outside of highlights.
2099725, Ah. Interesting.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Dec-29-12 02:48 PM
Fair enough. Just wanted to know both sides of this thing before it inevitably unfolds to platinum status.
2099718, It's funny that shit even continued after the Olympics, though.
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Dec-29-12 02:20 PM
2099794, Nygga said the olympics
Posted by SeV, Sat Dec-29-12 07:26 PM

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2099795, The one where Lebron was the best player or
Posted by RaFromQueens, Sat Dec-29-12 07:42 PM
the one where Lebron was the best player?
2099800, Bron being the best player proves my point.
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Dec-29-12 07:57 PM
Kobe played off the ball (was 4th in shot attempts even).

Still produced.
2099801, And he avg'd 15ppg.
Posted by RaFromQueens, Sat Dec-29-12 08:03 PM
Hardly analogous to this season.
2099807, He actually averaged 12.
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Dec-29-12 08:26 PM
Kobe ain't got no problem playing a role, is the point.
2099822, Kobe is not currently nor will he play a role this season.
Posted by RaFromQueens, Sat Dec-29-12 09:15 PM
His team his way.
2099867, The nygga aint have no choice but to lol
Posted by SeV, Sun Dec-30-12 04:16 AM
He was the 3rd(sometimes 4th) option anytime he was on the floor

so u can't even use that as a barometer

But yal keep partying

its clearly nash n gasols team now



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2099738, LOL.
Posted by LA2Philly, Sat Dec-29-12 03:45 PM
2099739, RE: So where are we all currently at on the whole "Kobe can't play with a pg" thing
Posted by murph71, Sat Dec-29-12 03:54 PM



Way too soon to be posting....

2099745, really? I'm just asking a question......nm
Posted by El_essence, Sat Dec-29-12 04:28 PM
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2099820, lol
Posted by ZooTown74, Sat Dec-29-12 09:06 PM
Had this team gone winless when Nash returned, these niggas would have fallen all over themselves to talk about how much of a "failure" it was bringing Nash to the team because of Kobe the Evil Selfish Gunner

But now that it appears that it's going to work, it's "too soon" to tell

These cats are nothing if not predictable

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2099830, RE: lol
Posted by murph71, Sat Dec-29-12 10:11 PM
>Had this team gone winless when Nash returned, these niggas
>would have fallen all over themselves to talk about how much
>of a "failure" it was bringing Nash to the team because of
>Kobe the Evil Selfish Gunner
>
>But now that it appears that it's going to work, it's "too
>soon" to tell
>
>These cats are nothing if not predictable


The problem is this is less about Kobe being selfish and more about styles of play...It's obvious that Nash makes the Lakers a better team...It's obvious that they will make the playoffs with a full squad...

U guys are making this out to be more than what folks are saying...Brush aside the contingent that's just itching to nitpick anything about Kobe's game...You will never win with those people...

Mostly everyone else is talking about styles of play--i.e. Kobe's style which at a glance should not fit Antoni's camping out for 3's guard, small forward play...It's great that the Lakers are winning games in December...But let's wait for those 'Offs....

The moment of truth will come in the playoffs when Kobe will have to battle the natural inclination to dominate the ball...He's never played with a real PG before in big spots when it really matters...Fisher never needed the handle the ball except to shoot 20 plus feet out...

Time will tell...If Kobe shows that an old dog can learn new tricks, bravo...

If he doesn't it won't make him any less of a player...
2099770, On the fence?
Posted by Szabo, Sat Dec-29-12 05:42 PM
He was horrible the first couple games, Put up 70 odd shots for 70 points in 2 games, now 2 wins against bad teams.
2099786, Kobe over the past 4 games:
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Dec-29-12 06:28 PM
49% FGA
33.8 PPG
6 REB
4 AST
1.8 TO
40.8 MIN

Kobe this season:
48% FGA
30.1 PPG
5.3 REB
4.9 AST
3.5 TO
38.7 MIN

YOU RIGHT. PROLLY NOT GONNA WORK.
2099815, So basically He is statistically similar but took more shots..
Posted by Szabo, Sat Dec-29-12 09:01 PM
2099825, Kobe can't play with a pg, right?
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Dec-29-12 09:27 PM
Except, he can. Pretty much the same way as he's always played.
2099861, statistically Kobe is the best shooting guard in the league right today
Posted by El_essence, Sun Dec-30-12 02:47 AM
with and without Nash on the court. He's taking more shots because he's getting better looks...with Nash. 7 of Nash's 10 assists last game were to Kobe.
2100814, Have you watched games? Kobe isn't spotting up.
Posted by Szabo, Mon Dec-31-12 03:13 AM
He is playing like he always did. Another thing is that the argument was never that Kobe won't put up numbers with a PG, it's that he won't allow the PG to do the PG thing and get the team going... Which we definitely need more games to judge.
2101146, he's spotting up. just from 3 and not in front of the 3. it's either 3
Posted by El_essence, Mon Dec-31-12 04:50 PM
or to the rack. The point is he's doing fine and Nash being Nash.
2099776, we are still currently on the "kobe can barely play WITH ANYONE"
Posted by rob, Sat Dec-29-12 06:05 PM
train. point guard? center? small forward? some other shooting guard?

kobe comes first.
2099788, i know right?
Posted by D_Tox151, Sat Dec-29-12 06:37 PM
he needs to win a chip first before we can start the convo
2099868, .........and your point is?
Posted by FILF, Sun Dec-30-12 04:24 AM
2099904, the point is that he CAN play with a great PG
Posted by justin_scott, Sun Dec-30-12 12:34 PM
contrary to previous talking
2100084, No! We have to WAIT UNTIL THE FINALS to see if this is true
Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Dec-30-12 04:03 PM
That's the ONLY way bro

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2100811, I love the brand newness of these responses. lol
Posted by El_essence, Mon Dec-31-12 02:53 AM
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