then you threw in CP3 and hit the wayback machine for KG

NOR got Kaman, Gordon, and I think their pick turned into Austin Rivers

what did the picks for Bron and Bosh turn into

I'll wait...

I think CLE, mostly due to Dan Gilbert's delusion, thought they had a Chip team as constructed

so why would they trade Bron after being a shit franchise for over a decade

kind of the same with ORL

they thought that roster was a Chip contender (Otis?)

the TOR thing is just stupid unless Bosh had a no trade clause

then they were kind of limited in what they could do

but again

if all 3 instances were handled like the Melo deal

those franchises would be better off today

compared to waiting for picks (literally, waiting)

what are we arguing again?

Nobody wants to talk about the Bynum trade?

we gave up Iggy (our "Star"), Vuc(a rookie) and a draft pick (Harkless)

for a franchise center (I'm hoping)

that's a great trade IMO