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1935172, Build the best under-25 NBA team you can and let's talk it out....
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 10:33 AM

1. They have to be in the L...prospects don't count.

2. Duplicate players are fine...Identical teams....NO!

3. Picks are based on potential AND current production

4. Please be ready to explain how your team is best, with respect to team chemistry and skillsets.


Mine:

PG: C'mon now...

SG: Professor James Harden, Af-Am Studies

SF: KD

PF: Love

C: Greg Monroe


^^^^^ I can't see another team being as good...at all.
1935179, RE: Build the best under-25 NBA team you can and let's talk it out....
Posted by Castro, Tue Mar-13-12 10:40 AM
And I did it based on taking folks you hadn't picked...so thats why there is no overlap.


PG- Kemba

SG- Iman Shumpert

C- Damarcus Cousins

SF- Klay Thompson

PF- Kia Spokesman
1935184, thought about Klay over Harden, but I couldn't do it.
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 10:43 AM
1935182, tempted to take Blake, but I'd prefer Love's versatility, for now.
Posted by thejerseytornado, Tue Mar-13-12 10:42 AM
I also think I take Paul George over Harden. Harden's a better scorer, but I don't need that for the team. Durant and Rose are enough scoring. George is a better defensive stopper.

Rose
George
Durant
Love
Monroe

yep. that's my team. still can't decide on Blake vs. Love in terms of team make-up. Let's just say that I'll put Blake/Harden as my 6th and 7th man for sure.

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1935188, this shit would score 130+ nightly
Posted by select_from_where, Tue Mar-13-12 10:46 AM
1935189, george a great pick...
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 10:46 AM
1935198, the monroe-love combo is just awesome.
Posted by thejerseytornado, Tue Mar-13-12 10:49 AM
feed monroe in the post, move Love to the 3 point line and Monroe either scores easily because the other team's post defender just got sucked out to the 3 point line or feeds Love if his defender doesn't follow him to the 3 point line. i love that shit.

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1935273, Shit...that's who I would put in place of Klay. Great pick.
Posted by Castro, Tue Mar-13-12 11:20 AM
1935201, Kyrie, Harden, KD, Griff, Monroe.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Mar-13-12 10:51 AM
I don't need K-Love's superior jump shooting to Griff's, considering Kyrie, Harden, and Durant are probably the best shooters at their positions, and Monroe's jumper ain't broke itself-- I'll take the superior athletic prospect going forward.

Considered Lopez, but the injuries scare me.

I can't go against the rest of your picks. They're too good.
1935208, Under 25 is easy
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 10:52 AM
PG- Rose
SG- Westbrook
SF- Durant
PF- Love
C- Bynum






With Rose at PG and Westbrook at SG, there is no way these guys aren't getting to the rack and kicking it out to Durant or Love.

Bynum would have the easiest job in the world because you can't double him with Love out at the high post or by the 3pt line and Durant roaming the perimeter and slashing low post.

It would be layup city, and running the pick and roll with Bynum or Love or the Pick and Pop with Love and Durant...


NASTY


1935218, RE: Under 25 is easy
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-13-12 10:56 AM
>PG- Rose
>SG- Westbrook
>SF- Durant
>PF- Love
>C- Bynum



Don't know about Russy as my SG...(edit---ok...I'll go with it...lol).....


But the funny thing is, beyond Harden, who could u put in that spot?


Mines would look like....



Rose
Harden
Durant
Love
Bynum
1935225, Eric Gordon's a great choice for anyone not picking Harden.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Mar-13-12 10:58 AM
1935228, RE: Eric Gordon's a great choice for anyone not picking Harden.
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-13-12 11:00 AM


With his alarming history of injuries at such a young age, I don't know about that...
1935243, tyreke evans then
Posted by southphillyman, Tue Mar-13-12 11:07 AM
harden is having a break out yr
but dude is only a yr removed from avg. 12 pts on 40% shooting
evans gives u a 17 5 and 5 player who is hard to handle with his handles and speed
1935246, still neither over Westbrook
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:09 AM
1935257, RE: tyreke evans then
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-13-12 11:13 AM


I could see that....

1935236, I considered Gordon, but Westbrook is better than Gordon
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:04 AM
Paul George and Shumpert would be very last resort picks I would probably go Westbrook, Gordon, Tyreke, Harden, George, and Shumpert in that order


but the team I have would just obliterate fools


1935279, In the role of the 2 guard, I prefer Gordon.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:23 AM
Although again, health scared me away.
1935291, your team is pretty much option 2
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:27 AM
I can't argue with it
1935229, RE: Build the best under-25 NBA team you can and let's talk it out....
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Mar-13-12 11:01 AM
Kyrie
Rose
Durant
Horford
Monroe


niggas sleeping on sliding rose to the 2-guard. plus, dude can defend any 2 in the league quiet as kept.
1935254, RE: Build the best under-25 NBA team you can and let's talk it out....
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-13-12 11:12 AM
>Kyrie
>Rose
>Durant
>Griffin
>Monroe
>
>
>niggas sleepin on sliding rose to the 2-guard. plus, dude can
>guard any 2 in the league quiet as kept.


Nah...I would put Russy at the 2 way before Rose...He has longer arms (think Wade), is more physical and is more of a shoot first player...
1935256, uh, except for the fact that kyris is BETTER than russy...
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Mar-13-12 11:12 AM
1935289, RE: uh, except for the fact that kyris is BETTER than russy...
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-13-12 11:27 AM



That's why Rose would be my point...lol
1935278, Thought about that briefly... in NBA2k, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:22 AM
Stacking Ky, Rose, and Durant all on the same team... I realize it's a problem that you take and just fucking deal with when you get there, but I worry about a team where three guys on the outside want the ball in their hands to create. So I make Durant my main scorer, Ky my main creator, and Harden to keep Ds on the perimeter honest-- bigger than Rose and better at the 3.

I'd rather just put Ky OR Rose as my 1.

But how do you say no to the MVP?

Fuck. It's a tough call. Just put Rose as the most insane Sixth Man of the Year and have him sub in for Ky and Harden (and Durant, really, since Harden could switch over to the 3).
1935233, Analysis of teams here:
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 11:03 AM

the problem with Rose and Russ at PG is that what they excel at won't be as needed on a team full of guys who can get 25+

All my players can knock down open Js and pass the ball.

I will say if Rondo was 25...yeah, I'd prolly take him over young 'Rie...real talk. Give Rondo all them weapons and let him play his floor games...3-Ds all day.
1935239, the problem with Kyrie at PG
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:05 AM
is that he would be good at times, but when he plays a team with Rose at PG, he'll be sick that game





*drum hit*


1935242, lol...they'll play soon enough...
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 11:06 AM
1935255, it won't be fair to asses though
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:12 AM
it would be like MJ vs Ron Harper (Cleveland)

Both are really good

One is CLEARLY better

One has a team that sucks so when the one that is CLEARLY better wins and wins their head to head, it won't seem fair





The Clippers are idiots, they should have drafted Kyrie to run with Gordon and Blake and Jordan and they would have been....NASTY


but oh well


1935249, RE: Analysis of teams here:
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-13-12 11:09 AM
>
>
>the problem with Rose and Russ at PG is that what they excel
>at won't be as needed on a team full of guys who can get 25+
>
>All my players can knock down open Js and pass the ball.


Basa...

Rose can pass the ball...He can drop 11 assists....He can penetrate and kick out...And he can play the pick and roll with players who actually "roll" to the basket...

Your comment makes much more sense when it comes to Russy...Because dude is dropping 30 plus points and only dropping 4 assists in some games...And then he'll turn the ball over 4 times...

Apples and oranges, homie....

1935253, RE: Analysis of teams here:
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Mar-13-12 11:11 AM
>
>the problem with Rose and Russ at PG is that what they excel
>at won't be as needed on a team full of guys who can get 25+
>


lol @ you playing "agenda hot potato" w/ russy.

oh and lol @ rondo over kyrie. nigga go take a nap.
1935300, I was so ready to take rondo. wish we had done this earlier
Posted by thejerseytornado, Tue Mar-13-12 11:35 AM
lol.

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1935250, Monroe over Bynum?
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Mar-13-12 11:10 AM
My 13 man roster

C: Bynum
PF: Love
SF: Durant
SG: Eric Gordon
PG: Kyrie

Second Unit
C: Al Horford*
PF: Blake
SF: George
SG: Harden
PG: Rose (I think right now he's better but I like Kyrie better with that top unit.)

End of Bench
Russy, Gay*, Monroe

*Gay and Horford are 25 so if it is under 25, I put Monroe in second unit and Brook Lopez on the pine. Replace Rudy with 'Reke at SF.

1935266, RE: Monroe over Bynum?
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Mar-13-12 11:14 AM
>My 13 man roster
>
>C: Bynum
>PF: Love
>SF: Durant
>SG: Eric Gordon
>PG: Kyrie


2 of your 5 starters would be on perpetual IR.
1935268, Yeah, injuries scared me away from Socks.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:15 AM
1935290, I could see dropping Gordon down because of it
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Mar-13-12 11:27 AM
But I think Bynum's good enough to roll the dice on.
1935251, OK, here's my 5
Posted by Ill Jux, Tue Mar-13-12 11:10 AM
1.Rose
2.Ev Turner
3.KD
4.Griffin
5.Jordan

I'll explain later
1935259, lol
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Mar-13-12 11:13 AM
>1.Rose
>2.Ev Turner
>3.KD
>4.Griffin
>5.Jordan
>
>I'll explain later
1935262, I don't want to hear the explanation
Posted by FromTheGo, Tue Mar-13-12 11:14 AM
Jordan over Bynum and Monroe and Cousins...

Nope I'm straight



1936091, monroe? where he at on my list nigguh?
Posted by Ill Jux, Tue Mar-13-12 10:25 PM
2156689, He's not, which is the problem, dummy.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Apr-02-13 02:11 PM
1935267, 1 "shooter"
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 11:15 AM
1936093, yes, but they will destroy your 5 in the paint
Posted by Ill Jux, Tue Mar-13-12 10:27 PM
and i know you hate on rose, but there isn't a pg in the league that can stop him from gettin to the basket. also, who the fuck would want to run with my crew? the pace would be too much for nigguhz to fuck wit.
1935302, i was waiting for evan turner to be named
Posted by southphillyman, Tue Mar-13-12 11:36 AM
1936095, RE: i was waiting for evan turner to be named
Posted by Ill Jux, Tue Mar-13-12 10:29 PM
he's gettin better. i see him turning into the player he was at ohio st right now. he's been ballin since he got inserted into the starting line up.
1935304, Let me see...off the cuff.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Mar-13-12 11:37 AM
PG: John Wall
SG: Paul George
SF: Kevin Durant
PF: Bismack Biyombo
C: Demarcus Cousins


We going for length and speed.

I'm pretty sure there's some I left out.
1935310, you going for the worst halfcourt team of all-time
Posted by Basaglia, Tue Mar-13-12 11:43 AM
you have 1 guy knocking 'em down outside 18 consistently.
1935316, Lol....I did notice that, But in the halfcourt we can do 1 of 4 things:
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Mar-13-12 11:50 AM
1. Give the ball to KD and get out of his way.

2. Give the ball to Big Cuz in the post.

3. Run pick and roll with Big Cuz.

4. Run pick and pop with Big Cuz.

5. Have John drive then either kick it out to KD or PG.

But I also plan on getting a lot of transition points with our speed, and defense.

We'll be tough to score on in the half court though.
1935417, Gotta go with Ibaka for Bismack
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Mar-13-12 12:57 PM
If that's the direction you're going.
1935422, I can see that, but Bismack seems younger with more upside.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Mar-13-12 01:03 PM
A little bit stronger too. That game vs Dwight too.
2156554, ^^^Lol, I said this. Smh
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Apr-02-13 11:28 AM
2156555, My team is still pretty hard body
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Apr-02-13 11:28 AM
I'd probably switch out Bismack for the best young PF in the game in a few years Anthony Davis though. He wasn't eligible first go round.
1935306, Mine- I go big
Posted by AnonymousCoward, Tue Mar-13-12 11:38 AM
D-Rose
Paul George
KD
Love
Boogie

Rings
1935337, I no longer listen to anyone who picked Monroe over Bynum.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Mar-13-12 12:02 PM
Unless your justification is "I forgot Drew was only 24" then you're an idiot.
1935355, I had to go with injuries, Kentucky, and the offense of Big Cuz.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Mar-13-12 12:15 PM
No way I pick Monroe over Bynum though.
1935398, injuries + passing
Posted by thejerseytornado, Tue Mar-13-12 12:45 PM
+ homerism.

mad?

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1936063, I did think he was 25.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Mar-13-12 09:58 PM
But his past is still a little recent for me to not be scared by it. If he had another healthy year and it was under 26 next year, I'd pick him.
1935347, Evan Turner will be on this list soon enough...nm
Posted by guru0509, Tue Mar-13-12 12:11 PM
>
>1. They have to be in the L...prospects don't count.
>
>2. Duplicate players are fine...Identical teams....NO!
>
>3. Picks are based on potential AND current production
>
>4. Please be ready to explain how your team is best, with
>respect to team chemistry and skillsets.
>
>
>Mine:
>
>PG: C'mon now...
>
>SG: Professor James Harden, Af-Am Studies
>
>SF: KD
>
>PF: Love
>
>C: Greg Monroe
>
>
>^^^^^ I can't see another team being as good...at all.
>


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1935420, Turner's tough because he's best with the ball in his hands
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Mar-13-12 12:59 PM
And with KD and any of the PG options, you want an off-the-ball 2 guard like Harden, EG, George over Turner.
2156602, LOL!!!!!!
Posted by Guinness, Tue Apr-02-13 12:19 PM
2156608, *falls back on the Mike Conley Jr safety net*
Posted by guru0509, Tue Apr-02-13 12:24 PM
2156617, amazing that it's him, not oden or turner.
Posted by Guinness, Tue Apr-02-13 12:34 PM
1935349, my 5
Posted by bnicedh, Tue Mar-13-12 12:13 PM
1-Kyrie
2-Rose
3-KD
4-Kevin Love
5-Bynum
1936061, Like I said...
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Mar-13-12 09:55 PM
1936064, anyone picking any other center over Bynum is a novice
Posted by Ink_Spot, Tue Mar-13-12 10:01 PM
Monroe my ass...
1936096, lol with anyone puttin Cousins on their 5
Posted by Ill Jux, Tue Mar-13-12 10:30 PM
he dumb and he's gonna stay dumb
1936103, Those numbers don't lie.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue Mar-13-12 10:38 PM
1936131, sure looks like they lied tonight.
Posted by FortifiedLive, Tue Mar-13-12 11:28 PM
1936662, 19 and 12 is bad now?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Wed Mar-14-12 01:39 PM
1936154, Rose, Harden, Durant, Love, Bynum
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Mar-14-12 12:23 AM
i win.
1936649, it was tough, but i like my team...
Posted by builtfromwax, Wed Mar-14-12 01:34 PM
PG - Steph Curry, 24 - for him to have the ball in his hands as much as he does, he don't have too many TOs. pick-n-roll with Ibaka? deadly. defensive liability tho'. but he got help in the paint with Ibaka and Hibbert.

SG - Nicolas Batum, 23 -- he playin' out of position. he really a SF. but at SG, he's long and could be a defensive nightmare for opponents. he can guard a PG, SG or SF. capable ball handler. can get to the rim. can hit a open shot. not quite the playmaker, but doesn't need to the ball to feel engaged.

SF - Kevin Durant, 23 -- you all ready know.

PF - Serge Ibaka, 22 -- he has a chance to better than Blake and Love. he only 22. very active shot blocker, rebounder. sometimes can get out of position, but normally plays under control. can hit an open 15-footer. pick-n-roll with Steph Curry would result in EASY buckets for either of 'em.

C - Roy Hibbert, 25 -- another shot blocker to patrol the paint. not as athletic as Ibaka. not quite the rebounder you'd want from your big either, but...he's more than capable of grabbin' a few boards. effective scorer in the paint. good passer from the block too; could come in handy when cutters like Durant or Batum go thru the lane.

this team has guys who can hit open shots (i.e. Curry and Durant) which will create space on the floor for the slashers (i.e. Batum and Durant). the bigs are skilled enough offensively to score, but not quite strong enough to command a double team. however, Hibbert is big enough to hold his position in the paint to get easy buckets which might cause the help from the weak side to slide on occasion. if he sees it, he can pass to the open man who has a high chance of knockin' down an open shot.

if Steph can keep the opposing PG in front of him, really hard to beat this team. if not, then switch him to guard the SG and use Batum for stretches to disrupt the opponents offensive. PGs who over penetrate would have to contend with two shot blockers in the paint. kickin' out could be a problem too b'cuz the wings are long and quick guys that like to play the passing lanes. they only concern would be Ibaka's over aggressiveness to commit to the ball and either block the shot or take a charge.

still, this a pretty tough team to beat.
1936681, RE: Build the best under-25 NBA team you can and let's talk it out....
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Wed Mar-14-12 01:46 PM
Pg-rose

Sg-Derozen

SF-Durant

Pf-love

C-Bynum


D rose can play his game and attack attack attack
With love and Bynum feasting on boards are

Durant would have a field day as well being able to move without the ball
He would be like a young rip on steroids
Coming off screens hitting
1936762, I like your line up but with Harden, you don't NEED 'Rie
Posted by auragin_boi, Wed Mar-14-12 02:24 PM
>PG: Rose - Speed, decent from 3, willing passer, tons of pressure on opposing teams D and has developed into a decent defender and CLUTCH

>SG: Harden - Can play point when needed cuz he's a good passer, deceptively athletic, good finisher, good shooter, decent rebounder

>SF: KD - Buckets, some rebounding, deep threat and CLUTCH

>PF: Bi-Juggs - Chose him over Love not for what he's doing now but his potential. He's just gonna get better (especially on D). Love won't. And him, Harden, KD, Rose on the break = MURDA. Plus with the 3 wings, I don't need my PF shooting 3's.

>C: Bynum - He's my half court answer to anybody. Durant & Harden will feast if you double him, Blake will eat glass too if you double him and both him and blake are oop threats. He has a good array of post moves, he's strong as hell and very efficient. Good defender and can anchor a D with shot blocking.

Thibs or Pop would be my coach for this team.

Honorable Mentions would be Paul George, Evan Turner, Monroe, 'Rie, Russy
2156584, mine would be yours, but i'd slide anthony davis in over monroe
Posted by bshelly, Tue Apr-02-13 12:02 PM
with monroe and love, your team is letting everyone hit every layup. i'm not in love with any of the defensive skills of the under 25 crew, so i'd roll the dice with rook.
2156591, i'd take davis or drummond.
Posted by Guinness, Tue Apr-02-13 12:09 PM
2156597, if it's RIGHT TODAY, i can't take drummond
Posted by bshelly, Tue Apr-02-13 12:13 PM
defensive skills are just too raw. i agree that who will be better in the future is shockingly open. i'd still take davis, ftr.
2156600, i love both of them.
Posted by Guinness, Tue Apr-02-13 12:16 PM
both should be great pros for years. with a gun to my head, i'll take davis.
2156606, You have an under 25 point guard whose won an MVP....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Tue Apr-02-13 12:24 PM

Derrick Rose would be the point guard...

Rose has missed this year due to injury...but he had 3 complete seasons....of course the Mvp year being one of those.

basic difference between Rose and Kyrie is that Rose has actually accomplished things on the court in the NBA as both an individual and leading a team to success...as opposed to flashes during shortened seasons...a nice all-star weekend...and representing your team at the lottery..

also...

Russy Westbrook is under 25....

no need to detail how much better and accomplished than Irving he is.


Kyrie irving is still living in the world of potential... he needs to play something close to a full season..and lead his team to success before he should be discussed with guys who have already done both.
2156692, Wow, I didn't realize this post was old.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Apr-02-13 02:12 PM
I was shocked at some of the replies.