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1822013, Is it time for the Cowboys to move on from Tony Romo? Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Dec-31-69 07:00 PM
I've seen enough football to know that QBs like that don't change. We have a young Brett Favre w/o the 3 MVPs and no chance win a ring.. Time to draft a QB Jerry..
Poll question: Is it time for the Cowboys to move on from Tony Romo?
Poll result (52 votes) | Yes | (16 votes) | Vote | No (Pinko's vote, NFC East Foes & Cowboys Haters) - lol | (36 votes) | Vote |
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1822030, I say no Posted by Organ, Sun Oct-02-11 03:36 PM
No He is capable of making this team wildly successful His coaches see how good he is and don't call careful He definitely needs to be reeled in but I still think there is chance
.500 going into the bye with 5 division games remaining Not the end yet
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1822038, I'm with you on the shitty playcalling too. Gotta put half of this on Garrett. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 03:39 PM
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1822042, Bottom line, can we win a SB w/ Romo... Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 03:39 PM
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1822057, Is he the reason you havent won yet? Posted by RaFromQueens, Sun Oct-02-11 03:45 PM
No.
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1822061, he's the reason I know we can't win it.. Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 03:48 PM
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1822133, dude yall are stuck with him. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-02-11 04:16 PM
coaches just gotta figure out a way to work around his issues.
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1822062, TY! Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 03:48 PM
It's pretty simple minded to think that the QB position is the only thing that has held us back.
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1822671, searing indictment because youve made a career of backing losers Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sun Oct-02-11 11:38 PM
nm
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1822034, Anyone who votes yes is clueless about finding and developing QBs.. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 03:38 PM
in the NFL. I'm not even copping pleas for dude at this point. I'm just saying, realistically, pro-bowl/HOF/SB QBs are a rarity in this league. Until you have a feasible way of replacing Romo with someone better, then you're smoking that good shit. If you've been watching the NFL for as long as you say, it's pretty simple and logical.
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2100997, Come on Pinko...3 ROOKIE QBS are taking their teams to the playoffs. Posted by MALACHI, Mon Dec-31-12 12:38 PM
it ain't as hard as you're making it out to be...
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1822039, it's OBVIOUSLY a no. we're in game 4. be rational. Posted by rob, Sun Oct-02-11 03:39 PM
if a rodgers situation comes up, then go for it, but look at the elite qbs in the league...
and look at home many qbs as good as romo or worse came in that top of the first.
it's scary out there.
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1822043, I didn't say clear out his locker after the game - lol Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 03:40 PM
but draft a young QB, period... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1822064, in the past decade only every other DRAFT has had a better qb Posted by rob, Sun Oct-02-11 03:50 PM
it's terrible odds.
it's ironic because you want to force a draft as bad as romo wants to force a pass to someone in double coverage.
i'm sayin....seize that opportunity like GB did when it comes. but don't worry about that shit now when we got a season to play.
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1822071, I'd support tanking to get Andrew Luck... Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 03:53 PM
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1822082, colts, vikings, seahawks at least probably have the same idea Posted by rob, Sun Oct-02-11 03:57 PM
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1822075, ^^^On point! Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 03:54 PM
Never mind the fact that the rest of the team ages as you develop someone new, so it's basically saying "blow up the entire team".
The logic of dropping him and developing someone new is so horribly irrational.
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1822105, On the contrary though the Cowboys are very young at the moment Posted by B.J.S.301, Sun Oct-02-11 04:03 PM
So I mean...its not such a bad idea to go for Luck.
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1822106, he drinks Tony's seed.. you can't talk sense to him.. lol Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 04:04 PM
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1822120, Man, other team fans are coming out the woodwork to let you know... Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:12 PM
how ridiculous and irrational you're being. Fans that usually clown us ffs. lol Come on man, is your understanding of drafting/developing QBs from scratch that poor? Get a grip, man the fuck up and live with what your team is stuck with
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1822250, forgive me for wanting to actually win a ring... Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 05:23 PM
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1822259, We all do. I'm just not gonna get bat-shit insane about QBs over it. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 05:33 PM
No matter what you think of this current team, they are in the best possible position to play for one. Going all bat shit about drafting and developing a new QB is not going to do us any good.
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1822263, We're not winning w/ Romo & I'll be here to remind you when they Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 05:36 PM
finally move on.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1822270, And our 1% chance of tanking for Andrew Luck will win us one? Good logic Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 05:40 PM
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1822289, 1% > 0% Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 05:57 PM
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1822290, ^^^Official bat-shit territory. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 05:58 PM
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1822312, no bat shit is assuming it's only a 1% chance... Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 06:10 PM
but facts are facts.. 1% > 0% ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1822337, Right. "Facts". Because based on facts, this thread went well for you. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 06:26 PM
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1822651, We're not winning w/ Romo - rinse, wash & repeat.. Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 11:02 PM
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1822053, Exactly, sir. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 03:44 PM
It's a gross misunderstanding of this league to think you can just grow an elite QB in the NFL like they are sea monkies.
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1822047, nah but i cant see yall winning a title with him Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-02-11 03:43 PM
i like him, but his mentals are all fucked up.
he'll get yall 10-12 wins a year usually and he might sack up enough one year to put together a playoff run.
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1822051, basically..... Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 03:43 PM
>i like him, but his mentals are all fucked up. > >he'll get yall 10-12 wins a year usually and he might sack up >enough one year to put together a playoff run.
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1822056, yup i see him getting us to the playoffs maybe a couple more times Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Sun Oct-02-11 03:45 PM
but i dont see winning superbowls with our current set up
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1822084, I agree with this. It's not easy to find a franchise QB though Posted by icecold21, Sun Oct-02-11 03:57 PM
or a quality starter, or what have you.
Romo is good, but he's not going to win someone a Super Bowl. So unless you're planning on winning on behind a really strong D and run game, a la the Ravens and Steelers, you gotta get a different QB. But that's easier said than done. How long did it take them to even find Romo? It's not like they can just go and get one. He might be the best option regardless of his flaws.
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1822124, they definitely cant get anyone better right now. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-02-11 04:13 PM
but i think a good coach can manage romo to where his weaknesses (confidence and favrian tendencies) dont harm the team.
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1822129, Exactly, Garrett should be running the ball and milking clock up 27-3 Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:15 PM
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1822094, I can agree with this. Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-02-11 04:01 PM
I'm actually low-key a Romo defender. In 2009, when McNabb was on his way out, the O-Line was turning into shit, and it seemed like Kolb was going to be the QB of the future... I thought it was only a matter of time before Romo lead the Cowboys into the juggernaut that they were touted to be.
from the second he took over for Bledsoe I knew the Cowboys had a franchise QB, and it made me sick.
but ... the Cowboys (as an org) are making the same mistakes that are sinking the Eagles. Plus Romo's "Favrian" qualities don't help..
but I don't see the Cowboys being in a situation that would allow them to acquire someone BETTER. Unless somehow they ditch Romo and sign Vince after this season
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1822108, Truly bizarre day. I'm getting support from Eagles and Giants fans... Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:06 PM
lol.. but it's true. You have to be insanely delusional to think you can just go out and find a beast franchise QB in this league. I still believe that at least 20 teams out there would jump on the chance to take Romo in this league rather than develop a new project.
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1822165, Romo was the polar opposite of Bledsoe Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-02-11 04:28 PM
>lol.. but it's true. You have to be insanely delusional >to think you can just go out and find a beast franchise >QB in this league. I still believe that at least 20 teams >out there would jump on the chance to take Romo in this >league rather than develop a new project.
who was basically only in there because Parcells was the coach, and if there's anything he values, is QBs from teams he's coached in the past (see: Testaverde in 2004). Bledsoe served y'all well, but he was The People's Statue, a dying breed among QBs and it was only a matter of time. In comes Romo and he looks like Favre from 1996...
I thought the end was near.
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1822170, Luckily, it's only game 4 and I don't believe the sky is falling yet lol Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:30 PM
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1822192, with this defense, 1-3 season and conference record Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-02-11 04:40 PM
plus an 0-1 division record doesn't make me very optimistic.
instead of being afraid of Vick coughing it up, it's the rest of the team.
even if the kicker missed 2 FGs. even with the turnovers.
you basically have to score 40 points to win. and with ^^^^ that, it's just not happening
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1822089, Im watching Green Bay right now... Posted by Dstl1, Sun Oct-02-11 03:59 PM
I look at Aaron Rodgers and I see a guy who makes all the right moves. Then I look at Tony and I see a guy with similar physical abilities, but he's not built the same mentally. The schematics are different, lol. That being said, I have always liked Tony and I still do, but I feel like if we win it big with him its because we'll be equipped to absorb his errors. I don't think it can be coached out of him. Tony is what he is a this point.
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1822101, Our coach could be better when up 24 too lol Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:02 PM
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1822102, absorbing his errors has us at 2-2.. it's not gonna work... lol Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 04:03 PM
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1822116, its not even so much the mentals between those two i think Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-02-11 04:11 PM
romo doesnt see the field as well and he isnt NEARLY as consistently accurate as rodgers. romo's throws get away from him a lot.
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1822109, so this is gonna be an every other week thing huh? Posted by southphillyman, Sun Oct-02-11 04:06 PM
yall sounding real faggotty
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1822122, Nope. Still my QB (c) T.O. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:12 PM
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1822134, yup that's yall franchise QB. might as well get use to it Posted by southphillyman, Sun Oct-02-11 04:16 PM
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1822138, Emo ass fantasy GMs need to man the fuck up and deal. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:19 PM
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1822176, Romo is clearly a top 10 QB imo. unless there is a better option out Posted by southphillyman, Sun Oct-02-11 04:33 PM
there yall need to calm down. good QBs are hard to come by remember when yall were trotting quincy carter out there lol
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1822181, Shit, that's all I've been saying! Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:36 PM
>there yall need to calm down. good QBs are hard to come by >remember when yall were trotting quincy carter out there lol
But there's always a vocal crowd of Cowboys fans who think you can just grow QBs that will go out and win you SBs every year like they are sea monkies. "Just add water" simplistic logic imo.
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1822194, or Brad freakin' Hutchinson Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-02-11 04:41 PM
>there yall need to calm down. good QBs are hard to come by >remember when yall were trotting quincy carter out there lol
they even fielded Brad Johnson.
Romo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .....
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1822201, it's Chad but Brad Hutchinson sounds funnier Posted by Organ, Sun Oct-02-11 04:46 PM
It's like a hybrid of Chad Hutchinson and Brad Johnson Wow imagine that
>>there yall need to calm down. good QBs are hard to come by >>remember when yall were trotting quincy carter out there lol > >they even fielded Brad Johnson. > >Romo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .....
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1822213, lol...yeah, it does. Posted by Dstl1, Sun Oct-02-11 04:54 PM
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1822233, yeah, Chad and Brad kind of were the same QB to me Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-02-11 05:08 PM
the post-Aikman era was kind of a cold one at that position
I remember that Drew Henson almost started too
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1822235, Hey! Let's draft the next Ryan Leaf!!! (c) LegacyNS Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 05:09 PM
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1822264, or the next Aaron Rodgers.. u know, the guy who's already better Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 05:37 PM
than Romo... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1822268, I hope you don't play poker b/c you're clueless about odds and stats Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 05:39 PM
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1822316, We're not winning w/ Romo - rinse, wash & repeat... Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 06:13 PM
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1822295, He started 1 game against Chi on Thanksgiving Posted by Organ, Sun Oct-02-11 06:00 PM
He was benched for the 2nd half Vinny Testeverde to the rescue.......
>the post-Aikman era was kind of a cold one at that position > >I remember that Drew Henson almost started too
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1822200, *shivers* Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Sun Oct-02-11 04:46 PM
the QB's we went through. just makes me ill thinking about them. If romo's contract wasnt the way it was I would assume the cowboys would always be looking for new talent. but at this point dont matter gotta stick with romo and hope the mental game comes along. plus no telling whats going through JJ's mind, if anything
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1822112, oh, romo aint going anywhere though Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Sun Oct-02-11 04:08 PM
due to his contract sitch
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1822156, Yeah, and even regardless of contract he's staying... Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:24 PM
...he's the face of the team now after Jerrah. As fans, we just have to support this team we have and stop jerking off to thoughts about getting Andrew Luck or some shit. As if that would guarantee us a superbowl even if we made the 10% of getting him after tanking.
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1822184, JJ too hard headed anyways Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Sun Oct-02-11 04:38 PM
it would be like admitting the stachum was a mistake
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1822452, RE: JJ too hard headed anyways Posted by beeazy, Sun Oct-02-11 08:01 PM
yeah we saw how long he road with Wade
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1822193, Almost any other coach Posted by Organ, Sun Oct-02-11 04:41 PM
doesn't do today to their QB what Garrett did
3rd qrt 27-3
Romo up to that point did all on offesne that was needed to walk out of there with a win
There is no other call but -----
Get the ball 1st down - run 2nd down - run If there is a 3rd down, probably pass, but maybe even run 4th down - Punt and let the D that has only given up 3 pts go to work
You do this over and over again Det makes it 27-10 Guess what Garrett --- you do it again I mean, you do this until it is 27-17 if it even gets there
Milk the fucking clock up that much man 17-6 is different then you can get mad at coaches for playing not to lose but 27-3 C'mon man the game is pretty much done
WHY ARE WE PASSING ON 1ST AND 10? Why is Garrett putting a gun slinger in that position? He knows what he is by now
He goes both ways If you have got nothing but good from the guy and it's 27-3 it's time to cruise man Yes Romo takes stupid chances but that is him It's in his brain He killed Det let the guy rest and coast for the rest of the game until he is needed again
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1822210, exactly. garrett gotta own some of that. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-02-11 04:50 PM
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1822212, passing on 1st and 10 up 3 touchdowns is some madden shit Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Sun Oct-02-11 04:54 PM
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1822216, Absolutely! This game was lost on bad situational coaching/playcalling. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 04:58 PM
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1822460, yea what a fkin dummy Posted by beeazy, Sun Oct-02-11 08:04 PM
nm
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1822731, ^ the kind of biased hindsight 2-pick Tony defenders are left with ^ Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 06:45 AM
Now I know you don't give Tony a pass per say but this the kind of shit people who are giving him a pass are saying so let's look @ this in context.
1> The Cowboys offense was destroying the Lions D. There was no reason to think that it wouldn't continue whether you're calling run or pass plays. The ONLY reason you see this as an issue in hindsight is because the choker choked away the game, again.
2> The Lions have an EXTREMELY explosive offense. We held them to 3 point in the 1st half but there's no reason to think we'd hold them to 3 for entire game. With Calvin Johnson out there, it only takes on big play for 7 points to be put on the board (which was on display later in the game).
3> Last week, the Lions were down 20-0 @ Minnesota @ the half and came back and won the game. Garrett was fully aware of this & thought he needed to keep the foot on the pedal. I don't disagree with him.
So yeah, we can quibble about a play call or two. I've criticized Garrett for his questionable play calling @ times just like I've criticized Romo for being a choke artist. However, regardless of the play call players have to execute the plays. You're paying Tony Romo a SHITLOAD of money to make the right play. If you're at the point where you're saying "you know what he is" & you have to call plays to protect your team from your QBs mistakes, aren't you kind of admitting you don't have the right QB?
I mean we're saying it in so many way w/o realizing that's we're saying it...
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1822732, ^ the kind of biased hindsight 2-pick Tony defenders are left with ^ Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 06:45 AM
Now I know you don't give Tony a pass per say but this the kind of shit people who are giving him a pass are saying so let's look @ this in context.
1> The Cowboys offense was destroying the Lions D. There was no reason to think that it wouldn't continue whether you're calling run or pass plays. The ONLY reason you see this as an issue in hindsight is because the choker choked away the game, again.
2> The Lions have an EXTREMELY explosive offense. We held them to 3 point in the 1st half but there's no reason to think we'd hold them to 3 for entire game. With Calvin Johnson out there, it only takes on big play for 7 points to be put on the board (which was on display later in the game).
3> Last week, the Lions were down 20-0 @ Minnesota @ the half and came back and won the game. Garrett was fully aware of this & thought he needed to keep the foot on the pedal. I don't disagree with him.
So yeah, we can quibble about a play call or two. I've criticized Garrett for his questionable play calling @ times just like I've criticized Romo for being a choke artist. However, regardless of the play call players have to execute the plays. You're paying Tony Romo a SHITLOAD of money to make the right play. If you're at the point where you're saying "you know what he is" & you have to call plays to protect your team from your QBs mistakes, aren't you kind of admitting you don't have the right QB?
I mean we're saying it in so many way w/o realizing that's we're saying it...
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1822930, it was three picks but who's counting Posted by Bombastic, Mon Oct-03-11 11:52 AM
>Now I know you don't give Tony a pass per say but this the >kind of shit people who are giving him a pass are saying so >let's look @ this in context. > >1> The Cowboys offense was destroying the Lions D. There was >no reason to think that it wouldn't continue whether you're >calling run or pass plays. The ONLY reason you see this as an >issue in hindsight is because the choker choked away the game, >again. > >2> The Lions have an EXTREMELY explosive offense. We held them >to 3 point in the 1st half but there's no reason to think we'd >hold them to 3 for entire game. With Calvin Johnson out there, >it only takes on big play for 7 points to be put on the board >(which was on display later in the game). > >3> Last week, the Lions were down 20-0 @ Minnesota @ the half >and came back and won the game. Garrett was fully aware of >this & thought he needed to keep the foot on the pedal. I >don't disagree with him. > >So yeah, we can quibble about a play call or two. I've >criticized Garrett for his questionable play calling @ times >just like I've criticized Romo for being a choke artist. >However, regardless of the play call players have to execute >the plays. You're paying Tony Romo a SHITLOAD of money to make >the right play. If you're at the point where you're saying >"you know what he is" & you have to call plays to protect your >team from your QBs mistakes, aren't you kind of admitting you >don't have the right QB? > >I mean we're saying it in so many way w/o realizing that's >we're saying it... > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ><---- 5.... >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo > >======================================= >Recovery????? > >http://www.cehwiedel.com/blogs/traces-pix/2010/09/CalcRisk-JobLosses.jpg
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1822986, I was hoping a Romo defender would fall into that trap.. - lol Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:56 PM
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1822960, it's true that hindsight is 20/20; but, Posted by young_frose, Mon Oct-03-11 12:14 PM
you have a QB with a cracked rib, an eh o-line at best that is going against a ferocious pass rush. take the air out of the ball.
did i mention that your number 1 wr is also out?
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1822988, none of that mattered when we were scoring 27 points.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:58 PM
>you have a QB with a cracked rib, an eh o-line at best that >is going against a ferocious pass rush. take the air out of >the ball. > >did i mention that your number 1 wr is also out?
It's only matters now because Tony Romo choked... again... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1823048, not saying that he didnt choke because he sucked ass; but, Posted by young_frose, Mon Oct-03-11 02:01 PM
the entire team choked.
on the 2nd pick 6, robinson quit on his route. shoulda got in front of the defender.
defense shoulda got a 2nd half sack.
defense can't let megatron beat a triple team
what the hell was newman doing on the go ahead touchdown?
why is it a 2-1 pass/run ratio?
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1822230, This post should've been about Jason Garrett. Posted by theeraser, Sun Oct-02-11 05:07 PM
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1822236, and I remember Cowboys fans complaining about him last season Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-02-11 05:09 PM
I still think last season was an out and out tank after Romo went out for the season
because Son of a Bum making those Texans look good
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1822253, i never liked that fool Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Sun Oct-02-11 05:27 PM
his offensive play calling was always questionable to me. especially red zone.
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1822318, yeah lets ask him to sandbag these last 12 games so we can get luck Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Oct-02-11 06:13 PM
FOH..he'll be fine
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1822332, lololol Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 06:22 PM
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1822334, Maybe draft one, but Romo's your guy 2-3 more yrs minimum. Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Oct-02-11 06:23 PM
He's never winning a Super Bowl. But there's not someone better immediately available for a team with enough talent to be in a playoff race yearly.
You either have to tank, which Dallas can't do, or draft a guy and develop under Romo for a couple years. I say latter.
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1822371, List of 1st round QBs drafted over the last 10 years. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sun Oct-02-11 07:11 PM
Chad Pennington Michael Vick David Carr (1st pick) Joey Harrington Patrick Ramsey Carson Palmer Byron Leftwich Kyle "baller" Boller Rex Grossman Peyton Manning Philip Rivers Ben Roethlisberger J.P. Losman Alex Smith (#1 pick) Aaron Rodgers Jason Campbell Vince Young Matt Leinart Jay Cutler Jamarcus Russell Brady Quinn Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Josh Freeman
A) How many of those QBs are statistically better than Romo?
B) What % of them have won superbowls vs what % are mediocre at best?
Clearly, in the gamble that is drafting and developing QBs, we're in a great position compared to all those teams that drafted the vast majority of the above QBs.
Outside of Manning, Rodgers, Rapelisberger and Vick, who is fucking with Romo on this list? You really want to take those odds in a draft?
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1822470, Not that I agree with legacy at all... Posted by beeazy, Sun Oct-02-11 08:13 PM
...... were stuck with romo for awhile, no getting around it.
But theres a few guys on that list I would take over Romo, based on the offensive weapons the cowboys have i think it would make it easy for some of those qbs. Cutty, Rivers, Staffard ( obviously) as well as the guys you mentioned, plus who knows what a guy like vince young would do with the weapons romo has. I mean we know what romo does with a good team, he blows it......
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1822481, As someone who thinks Romo doesn't have what it takes... Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Oct-02-11 08:20 PM
... you're insane if you choose Cutler over Romo. Romo is Joe Montana, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady's three-way gayby compared to Cutler.
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1822495, Cutty never had near the weapons Posted by beeazy, Sun Oct-02-11 08:25 PM
Of witton, dez, austin, TO before that. Im not gonna go look at stats ( actually I will but im sure they wont help case) but I was wishing boys woulda traded for him ( though I knew they wouldn't) when broncos were getting rid of him...... basically for the reason that we know what romos gonna do......
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1822655, Cutty has never shown the same skills Posted by pretentious username, Sun Oct-02-11 11:06 PM
and is even more INT prone than romo.
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1871348, RE: As someone who thinks Romo doesn't have what it takes... Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Mon Dec-12-11 08:08 PM
Right now, Cutler is significantly better than Romo. He had Chicago rolling, gets hurt, and they are the worst team in the L.
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1822675, who said it has to be 1st round only? Brees was a 2nd round pick Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 11:41 PM
has a ring & is better than Romo... cry.
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1822698, Only one crying in here is you. Man up and deal with the team you got. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 12:36 AM
This ain't the Lakers or the Yanks. You can't just buy a squad in the NFL.
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1822631, Tony Romo's Role in Historic Collapse Signals Time for a Change Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 10:32 PM
Be mad but people see it...
Dallas Cowboys: Tony Romo's Role in Historic Collapse Signals Time for a Change http://bleacherreport.com/articles/875436-tony-romo-mistakes-in-historic-collapse-signal-its-time-for-change-in-big-d
By Kyle Vassalo (Featured Columnist) on October 2, 2011
Tony Romo's was able to fool the general public into thinking he may not be a choke artist, but after blowing a 27-3 lead at home, it's clear that the Cowboys can't win as long as Romo is under center.
The Cowboys can bring in elite weapons to surround Romo with, beef up the offensive line, fire the coach, stack the defense and make excuses for Romo until he retires, or move in a different direction before it's too late.
Romo's heroics with a punctured lung in Week 2 and win with a cracked rib in Week 3 had some people thinking that it was the media who had blown Romo's short comings out of proportion.
Maybe people were too overly critical of Romo over the botched hold and a few unlucky plays in crucial situations. Maybe Romo could lead Dallas to the promise land after all.
After Week 4, it's clear that Dallas isn't going anywhere as long as they keep Romo under center. His inconsistency and MIA status in the big moment will prevent Jerry Jones from adding to his Super Bowl collection.
Romo threw three picks and was an instrumental part of the Lions' epic comeback win. His stat line isn't indicative of how bad he was when it mattered most. The only way the Lions could come away with a victory was if the Cowboys handed them a victory, and Romo did everything in his power to make it happen.
The Cowboys have made significant changes, but Jones' loyalty to Romo will ultimately bar them from succeeding. Romo is 31. He's been on talented enough teams to make deep runs in the playoffs, but his lack of the "it" factor binds the entire team to failure.
The Cowboys had this one in the bag and choked. They can make all of the personnel changes they want to in order to turn the team around, but at some point they need to take a long look at their situation under center and trade Romo in for a field general they won't have to keep making excuses for.
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1822650, the more i think about this Posted by beeazy, Sun Oct-02-11 11:02 PM
the more blame I start to give garret, a good coach plays to there players and teams strength and weaknesses. I mean whats so hard about letting romo do his thing in the first half to get a lead then reining him in BIG TIME by being very picky with the pass plays your calling for him, knowing hes mistake pron in certain situations......
lets face it if were down in the 4th quarter of a game theres not many qbs id rather have to try and bring us back. At the same time if were nursing a lead romo is at the bottom of the list for guys I want THROWING the ball. But WHY does garret have him throwing up 24 or whatever it was???? Romo made the mistakes and gets the blame for sure but he is what he is..... I think we can win with him if we play right.
makes me wish we had a proven coach/leader ie cowher, chucky, dungy.
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1822659, Garrett is certainly not blameless.. Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 11:17 PM
However, you're paying your QB millions of dollars to execute plays. If he can't do it or you don't trust him then why is he your QB?
It's time to move on... A lot of guys are in denial but Romo is 31 years old. He's not a 1st year starter making "rookie" mistakes. He's at best Brett Favre in the 2nd half of his career after the SB ring. We've watched QBs like Rodgers & Rivers come into the league & pass him by. Younger guys like Stafford might already be on their way... It's a wrap for this dude..
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1822667, I agree but with most of what u said but Posted by beeazy, Sun Oct-02-11 11:26 PM
it aint a wrap till j jones says so........
if trent dilfer can get a ring, and brad johnson can get a ring, then romo, with the right pieces, and COACHING, could get one
Im with you as far as I wish there was a better option, but theres not
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1822673, well Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 11:40 PM
>it aint a wrap till j jones says so........ > >if trent dilfer can get a ring, and brad johnson can get a >ring, then romo, with the right pieces, and COACHING, could >get one > >Im with you as far as I wish there was a better option, but >theres not
we don't know that... we could draft the next Aaron Rodgers. Drew Brees was a 2nd round pick.
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1822699, Clueless, abso-fucking-lutely cluesless...smh Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 12:43 AM
>>it aint a wrap till j jones says so........ >> >>if trent dilfer can get a ring, and brad johnson can get a >>ring, then romo, with the right pieces, and COACHING, could >>get one >> >>Im with you as far as I wish there was a better option, but >>theres not > >we don't know that... we could draft the next Aaron Rodgers. >Drew Brees was a 2nd round pick.
Yeah, just gamble it the fuck up and try to get lucky like two teams did. As if we didn't already fucking try that for over a god damn decade.
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1822721, If we win a SB w/ Romo this year I'll log off for good... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 05:25 AM
If we don't, you log off for good since you're so confident in Romo.....
No aliases.... you leave the site permanently..
Yeah, that's what the fuck I thought.. shut smooth the fuck up... Now get off my dick...
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1822918, LMAO! You don't have a single ally on this topic. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 11:37 AM
Shit, you call me out on a gay ass "poll" thread, expecting cats to come in and vindicate you by burning Romo at the stake. Instead, you got a gang of realistic, eyes-open, clear minded people telling you how the NFL works. Nice thread though. Sorry it didn't work out for you. Peace.
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1822927, It pains me to see yall goin at each other's necks... Posted by Dstl1, Mon Oct-03-11 11:49 AM
straight up.
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1823040, Man, i'm just trying to speak truth to complete insanity. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 01:57 PM
How the fuck is anyone gonna truly believe that we can magically switch out one player and produce a magic chip? I'm all for differences in opinion, but this culture of simple mindedness in sports analysis is aggravating. It's like reducing shit to slogans "NOPE! NO SUPERBOWL!"
Come on...
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1822934, So that's a no & you're too chicken shit to make the bet? Got it... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 11:58 AM
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1823031, Dawg, you're flying off the handle and being an irrational twat. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 01:47 PM
You're talking about superbowls and I'm talking about dealing with what we have. In terms of "what we have", our current situation -- FOR BETTER OR WORSE -- is our best shot at contending for a championship. If we get rid of Romo, we're looking at another 5 years of mediocrity at best UNLESS we hit double zero on the roulette wheel and get lucky like Green Bay did with Rodgers. So chill with the catty shit.
Do I think Romo has the ability to win a superbowl under the right conditions? Absolutely.
Do I think the Cowboys will win one with him as our QB? Yes, but only if we get all our pieces on offense together -- including coaching.
Let's also not forget that Romo's asked to do EVERYTHING in this offense. He's not Kobe Bryant but they want him to take the last shot all the time. If we had a half decent run game, we'd be talking differently about all this. Shit, Aikman sure is hell wouldn't have won shit without that monstrous line and Emmitt. That's not even a stretch to say.
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1823043, blah blah blah... Is he winning us a chip this year or not? Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 01:58 PM
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1823045, ^^Tea-Party logic.Good argument. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 02:00 PM
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1823051, lol - you're melting down.. take the bet or go away... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 02:04 PM
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1823057, LMAO @ "melting down". Who you got on board with this shit? Zero support. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 02:07 PM
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1823059, Take the bet or go away... u scared? Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 02:09 PM
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1823135, No, I'm not making that bet on any single QB in the NFL per given year lol Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 04:15 PM
You're just being ridiculous man. Swinging at your own shadow.
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1823142, ^scared to death, scared to look^ Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 04:26 PM
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1823157, ^^Not scared of looking completely retarded^^ Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 04:35 PM
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1823270, take the bet or go away Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 08:39 PM
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1823280, No and no. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 08:47 PM
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1823285, RE: No and no. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 08:49 PM
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1823308, ^^^ http://allstarme.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/the_sad_clown.jpg ^^^ Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 09:28 PM
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1822647, 5 Reasons Romo's Run with Cowboys is Over Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-02-11 10:59 PM
yep, keep acting like ppl aren't talking about it...
5 Reasons Romo's Run with Cowboys is Over By David Daniels (Featured Columnist) on October 2, 2011
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/875539-tony-romo-5-reasons-romos-run-with-cowboys-is-over
If unclutch was a word, Tony Romo would be the definition.
No season is a successful season for the Dallas Cowboys unless Jerry Jones is hoisting a Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year. In 2011, Romo has made it loud and clear that the Cowboys will never win a Super Bowl with him under center.
Dallas should be 4-0 right now. Sure, Romo proved his toughness playing with a broken rib and punctured lung, but hard as it would be to negate all of the praise for such a heroic performance, No. 9 managed to do it.
This year will mark the last of the Tony Romo era in Dallas. If he’s still starting for the Cowboys next season, it would be a shocker and here’s why:
5. Turnover Prone
Tony Romo has put up big passing yards and touchdown numbers ever since he took over in Dallas as a full-time starter. Throwing for 300 yards and three touchdowns looks great on paper, but how many points the opposing offense scored off of turnovers doesn’t show up next to Romo’s name.
He threw for three interceptions against the Detroit Lions giving him five on the season through four weeks. Last season, Romo threw seven picks despite playing just six games. He also has had issues with holding on to the football and not just on field goal holds either.
Romo has fumbled the football a whopping 41 times in his career. Turnovers lead to losses. You can’t be as careless with the football as Romo is and consistently win football games.
4. Bad Timing
As soon as Tony Romo’s hot seat reaches its peak temperature, the Cowboys have plenty of replacement options. Dallas won’t be bad enough to draft Andrew Luck. Of course, I’d never count out Jerry Jones to pull off a blockbuster deal to trade up for the best quarterback prospect to enter the draft in years.
The 2011 draft class has plenty of depth at the QB position as well, though. Matt Barkley and Landry Jones are each talented enough to be selected inside the top five. Again, Dallas will most likely win too many games to finish among the worst five teams in the league.
Still, borderline first-round to second-round picks like Ryan Tannehill and Nick Foles are solid options as well.
3. Postseason Failures
When quarterbacks like Ben Roethlisberger and Mark Sanchez struggle in the regular season, at least their teams can simply shrug it off and point to the QBs’ consistent success in the playoffs. The Dallas Cowboys can do no such thing.
Romo boasts just one postseason win since 2006 when he took over under center for the Cowboys. He has made three Pro Bowls during that time period; he puts up monster numbers the first 17 weeks of the year. From his 2006 bobbled hold against Seattle to failing to lead a single touchdown drive against the Vikings in 2009, though, Romo has been a flop in meaningful games.
The regular season is virtually meaningless for NFL quarterbacks.
2. Inability in Crunch Time
For the second time this season, Romo has failed to finish off what should’ve been easy wins for the Cowboys.
In Week 1, Dallas was up 24 to 17 against the New York Jets. On 3rd-and-goal from the Jets’ 2-yard-line, all the Cowboys had to do was play it safe and kick the field to take a two-score lead in the fourth quarter. Instead, Romo scrambled, fumbled and lost the football.
His interception with the game tied set the Jets up for a 27-24 victory. Against the Detroit Lions, Cowboys fans would see a reenactment from Romo.
Dallas was leading the Lions 27-3; the game was over and all the Cowboys had to do was to take care of the football. Three Tony Romo interceptions, two that were picks sixes, and two Calvin Johnson touchdowns later (Rob Ryan salute), Detroit had come back to win 34 to 30.
1. Time's Up
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/373/618/127886036_display_image.jpg
The time to talk is up. The Dallas Cowboys go into nearly every season looking like paper champions. Each year though, preseason predictions are turned into postseason trash.
Tony Romo is basically the LeBron James of the NFL. He is one of the most talented quarterbacks in the league, but he lacks the killer instinct to finish games.
The question every team must ask themselves about their starting signal caller is: can we win a Super Bowl with our QB under center? When Jerry Jones asks himself and his staff that question about Tony Romo next spring, the answer will be a resounding no.
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1822653, Some dummy on ESPN Radio had a good point: Posted by CliffDogg, Sun Oct-02-11 11:04 PM
Basically Romo is just good enough to give them a low enough draft pick that they won't be able to draft a franchise QB early in the first round without lucking out like Green Bay with Rogers.
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1822695, Romo: the record setter Posted by will_5198, Mon Oct-03-11 12:29 AM
Detroit's 24-point comeback was the largest blown lead in the 52-year history of the Dallas Cowboys.
this adds to Romo's masterpiece against the Jets, where he broke Dallas' 247-game undefeated streak when leading by 14 points in the fourth quarter.
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1822728, Romo is not the problem, play calling and defense are. Posted by mr_graff, Mon Oct-03-11 06:25 AM
Romo isn't a top 5 qb but you can win with him.
Jason Garrett is not the Wunderkid some folks thought he was. He may be an improvement over Wade Phillips but is that saying much? Up 27-3 it's time for the running game instead of having your injured qb slinging it.
And when you lose a 24 point lead, that's on the defense. Even with those two pick 6s you are up double digits.
Besides, haven't we already seen how Dallas looks without Romo? They don't have anyone better and probably won't be able to get one of the top qb prospects.
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1822733, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 06:47 AM
>Romo isn't a top 5 qb but you can win with him. > >Jason Garrett is not the Wunderkid some folks thought he was. >He may be an improvement over Wade Phillips but is that saying >much? Up 27-3 it's time for the running game instead of >having your injured qb slinging it. > >And when you lose a 24 point lead, that's on the defense. Even >with those two pick 6s you are up double digits. > >Besides, haven't we already seen how Dallas looks without >Romo? They don't have anyone better and probably won't be able >to get one of the top qb prospects.
The D damn near pitched a shutout in the 1st half and only gave up 17 in the 2nd half.. are you fuckin kidding me? It's the Ds fault? - lol
And yes Garrett has bad judgment at times. However, he's not responsible for Romo's bad judgment. And Romo didn't look all that injured when he was throwing 3 TDs in the 1st half..
The plea coppage for Romo is reaching LeBron James levels...
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1822736, ditch Romo and Dallas may be like the Lebron-less Cavs Posted by mr_graff, Mon Oct-03-11 06:59 AM
> The plea coppage for Romo is reaching LeBron James levels...
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1823145, You've got to be fucking kidding me. Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Oct-03-11 04:28 PM
Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, and Jason Witten could catch at least 250 yards from any QB in the league. Fuck outta here acting like Romo has zero talent around him.
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1823272, shit is amazing.. any DECENT QB can score points w/ that offense Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 08:40 PM
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1823457, You gotta remember that Miles and Dez have played only a few together Posted by Pinko_Panther, Tue Oct-04-11 01:18 AM
Oh, and the jury is still out on whether Dez (like Felix) can stay healthy long enough per season to fully develop and make a serious impact
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1822780, "Look at me! Look at my face! I did this to you!" - Sonny from A Bronx Tale Posted by Jayson Willyams, Mon Oct-03-11 08:52 AM
I'm so fucking happy it was the Lions who destroyed your fragile collective psyche. A platinum post full of pants-shitting and mass retardation--it couldn't happen to a worse group of fans. You guys should TOTALLY tank for Andrew Luck! That is an awesome strategy. He's the missing piece, probably.
(Peace to Organ, who--unlike 98% of Dallas residents--isn't a mouth-breathing retard.)
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1823440, lol Posted by beeazy, Mon Oct-03-11 11:50 PM
enjoy it, I know detroit fans must hate the cowboys, jealousy breeds hate of course. Detroit being laughed at all those years on thanksgiving, emmit smith breaking all the records winning superbowls while barry was trying to get his ass out of detroit......then quitting on team like tiki quit on ny.
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1822786, Y'all didn't do it to Peyton Manning, by Romo? Posted by Ish, Mon Oct-03-11 09:05 AM
Not saying Romo is as good as Manning, but I remember Manning choking hard throughout his career. Romo can be a good qb but he tries too hard. He just needs to stop listening to the media and play to the team's strengths.
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1822792, Yes, He's the Donovan McNabb of Dallas Posted by bentagain, Mon Oct-03-11 09:10 AM
There are a lot of caveats for his career though
I think DAL has gotten a lot out of an undrafted rookie FA Romo has a career 95 passer rating Ranked #10 today in passer rating The Cowboys let a lot of people go due to the new salary cap restricitons The guy is playing hurt
Bottom line:
If you can't beat the Skins in a FG kicking contest and lose a 20+ lead to DET, you're team has bigger issues than QB, and short of drafting the next Cam Newton, I'm not sure how much better you can get than Romo
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1822928, uh, they did beat the Skins in a FG-kicking contest though Posted by Bombastic, Mon Oct-03-11 11:50 AM
>There are a lot of caveats for his career though > >I think DAL has gotten a lot out of an undrafted rookie FA >Romo has a career 95 passer rating >Ranked #10 today in passer rating >The Cowboys let a lot of people go due to the new salary cap >restricitons >The guy is playing hurt > >Bottom line: > >If you can't beat the Skins in a FG kicking contest and lose a >20+ lead to DET, you're team has bigger issues than QB, and >short of drafting the next Cam Newton, I'm not sure how much >better you can get than Romo > >
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1822940, well shit, what's all the fuss about then Posted by bentagain, Mon Oct-03-11 12:02 PM
oh yeah, it's DAL
they think they're the SB favorites every year...right...up...until the bye week
DAL thought they were winning the SB this year?...for real?
2-2 sounds right
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1822946, go look at some posts.... Posted by Dstl1, Mon Oct-03-11 12:06 PM
not nary a Cowboy fan even remotely let SB come out of their mouth. We were just hoping for a competitive team. It was the Dream Team that had the SB parade route planned out already. Basically you just came in here and said some false shit and Bomb corrected you right quick so you tried to make up for it by saying something equally false.
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1822962, 2-2 sounds right Posted by bentagain, Mon Oct-03-11 12:16 PM
then why are you mad?
hell yeah i'm mad as shit that the Iggles suck right now
but if you didn't have SB aspirations, why are you so mad with a 2-2 record, with a starting QB playing through injuries, in a rebuilding year
you beat the skins, my bad, care to refute any of the other statements i made
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1822969, I'm mad because.,.. Posted by Dstl1, Mon Oct-03-11 12:21 PM
both of the losses should have been wins. We were dominating both games and a combination of shitty coaching and poor decisions by our franchise QB gave it all away.
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1822952, I agree, Romo's also likely fatally flawed but better than their other options Posted by Bombastic, Mon Oct-03-11 12:09 PM
> >2-2 sounds right > I guess if they can get a team to bite on overpaying for Romo via trade they should do it but that's the kind of move that rarely happens in this league.
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1822956, man, Jerry aint lettin Tony go.... Posted by Dstl1, Mon Oct-03-11 12:12 PM
bottom line is Tony is our QB. He's talented as shit but fucked in the head. Some of it is who he is and some of it is what the coaching staff allows him to do. I still maintain my position that he's the best QB we could hope for anytime soon but if we win it will be in spite of him.
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1822983, which to me suggests we're not winning anything significant.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:53 PM
>but if we win it will be in spite of him.
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1823032, see Donovan McNabb of Dallas reference above Posted by bentagain, Mon Oct-03-11 01:49 PM
the win in spite of him, not because of him is Donovan's M.O.
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1822972, Right today, how many team would trade their QB for Romo? Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:23 PM
Forget the money involved.. assume you can make it fair w/ addt draft picks & compensation..
Gimme a list of teams that w/o a doubt would trade their current QB for Romo..
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1822925, And replace him with who? Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 11:48 AM
Cowboy fans today remind me a lot of 49er fans from 91-94. If they had their way Steve Young would have been shipped off on draft day for the rights to Heath Shuler.
Yeah it sucks as a Cowboy fan to watch games like y'all had yesterday... but finding a QB with even 85% the ability Romo has could take you decades. I think coaching is the real answer here. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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1822932, It really is THAT simple! Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 11:56 AM
>Cowboy fans today remind me a lot of 49er fans from 91-94. If >they had their way Steve Young would have been shipped off on >draft day for the rights to Heath Shuler. > >Yeah it sucks as a Cowboy fan to watch games like y'all had >yesterday... but finding a QB with even 85% the ability Romo >has could take you decades. I think coaching is the real >answer here.
^^The right answer.
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1822938, cmon OP... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:00 PM
>Cowboy fans today remind me a lot of 49er fans from 91-94. If >they had their way Steve Young would have been shipped off on >draft day for the rights to Heath Shuler. > >Yeah it sucks as a Cowboy fan to watch games like y'all had >yesterday... but finding a QB with even 85% the ability Romo >has could take you decades. I think coaching is the real >answer here. >_________________________________ >Reunion Radio Podcasts >Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance > >http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
Young was losing in NFC championship games to a team that won 3 SBs in 4 years.. lolololol
Romo is NOWHERE NEAR that level right now...
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1822948, Those 49er teams were more experienced too Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 12:07 PM
This is a young as hell Cowboy team with very little playoff experience.
But still expectations in Dallas are just as high as the were in SF back then. Do you really believe that Romo wouldn't be catching just as much heat had the Cowboys made it to and lost the NFC championship the last two years? Especially if had had 4 turnovers like Young had that one year. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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1822971, but the Cowboys were better.. they beat everybody... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:22 PM
SF, GB, Philly, Buffalo, etc....
And again, Steve was losing in NFC title games... Romo hasn't even PLAYED in a NFC title game...
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1822978, Without those turnovers.... Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 12:39 PM
and a bullshit penalty that took away a Rice TD the 49ers should have beaten Dallas in 92... so you're overstating a bit.
But really that's neither here nor there... you're missing the point.
Romo has been asked to carry a team to a level it's talent really doesn't warrant. He's not Brady, Manning or Rogers and he never will be. But I have a hard time accepting he's not right there with guys like Roethlisberger and Eli Manning who both have rings... they just played on better teams. I see Romo along the lines of a Drew Brees really. Before he left San Diego how many people were really calling him a super bowl level QB? He just got with the right staff and right system and it all came together. I could see the same happening with Romo easily. Hell send him on to a team like the 49ers and I bet you'd end up regretting it the rest of your life. If Harbaugh can get Alex Smith through 4 games with only 1 pick and a 98 QB rating what would he do with Romo?
Bottom line is you have a guy that's a top 10 QB and are asking him to play like a top 3 or 4.... if you replace him what are the odds you can find another guy that will ascend to a top 5 level?
The Cowboys have more problems than Tony Romo.... how about addressing those before you talk about blowing the whole thing up. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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1822985, who said blow it up... I said draft a young QB Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 12:55 PM
and start grooming our next starter... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1823020, Is it time for the Cowboys to move on from Tony Romo? Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 01:29 PM
That was the question you asked correct? Drafting a young QB that most likely wouldn't be ready to play at a high level for 2-3 years (if you're lucky) isn't moving on imo. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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1823046, moving on in the context of realizing he's not going to win us a chip.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 02:00 PM
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1823113, RE: moving on in the context of realizing he's not going to win us a chip.. Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 03:28 PM
thing is you don't know that. people think they know shit all the time and end up being proven wrong. I hope you're right because the idea of Dallas winning a Super Bowl is only eclipsed in my nightmares by living through a championship Raider season... but if I'm being honest I think the fastest way to make sure that never happens is to start a replace Romo campaign.
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1823134, BOOM! Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 04:14 PM
>thing is you don't know that. people think they know shit all >the time and end up being proven wrong. I hope you're right >because the idea of Dallas winning a Super Bowl is only >eclipsed in my nightmares by living through a championship >Raider season... but if I'm being honest I think the fastest >way to make sure that never happens is to start a replace Romo >campaign.
I really don't know what's so hard to understand about this?!?!
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1823150, Holla at me when Romo makes a NFC chip game Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 04:31 PM
Less known wins a SB.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1823166, Again I hope you're right Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 04:50 PM
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1823112, Your point is well founded but let's be fair Posted by Beamer6178, Mon Oct-03-11 03:27 PM
>Cowboy fans today remind me a lot of 49er fans from 91-94. If >they had their way Steve Young would have been shipped off on >draft day for the rights to Heath Shuler. Steve Young was under heat because of who he replaced (who proved in KC he could STILL PLAY), not because of his losing to Dallas in and of itself. I still believe with Montana we beat Dallas in '92. Probably not 93, but in 92 they didn't even realize how good they were yet.
It was a tough ass situation. The fucking Giants probably cost us two more potential championships. We'd have beaten the Bills if we had gotten past them in the 91 NFC championship game, would have been the first threepeat ever, and possibly some more. Hard to fault management for what they did, but at the same time, can't remember where your all time great QB who was still a peak performer is sat due to injury (and never gets the job back) in favor of an upstart and very very good backup as well.
>Yeah it sucks as a Cowboy fan to watch games like y'all had >yesterday... but finding a QB with even 85% the ability Romo >has could take you decades. I think coaching is the real >answer here. I agree. its frustrating to have your QB do that, but he's so talented, it's kind of something you're stuck with. they need a coach with a stronger personality to get him right, IMO. who knows, maybe garrett is that guy after all, not like i care, dallas's struggles keep my teeth white lol.
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1822944, get RG3 Posted by darius heyward bey, Mon Oct-03-11 12:05 PM
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1822947, any Eagle fans see the irony in this shit... Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Oct-03-11 12:06 PM
Legacy and Pinko kinda remind me of the night where McNabb turned into McFavre against the Cowboys in his last game as an Eagle
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1822992, @ least McNabb got to the SB & multiple NFC title games... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 01:00 PM
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1823033, With a totally different team and system Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 01:49 PM
Seriously this idea the QB is the one solely responsible for getting a team to the super bowl is just lazy. It started about 25 years ago I think as a result of the explosion of sports talk radio. It's just an easy way for people to judge things... the reality is just too nuanced and makes their heads hurt. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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1823035, RE: With a totally different team and system Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 01:51 PM
>Seriously this idea the QB is the one solely responsible for >getting a team to the super bowl is just lazy. It started >about 25 years ago I think as a result of the explosion of >sports talk radio. It's just an easy way for people to judge >things... the reality is just too nuanced and makes their >heads hurt.
This is the problem, imo. People are too lazy to think i depth about what it takes to win. It's not the NBA where you can just buy yourself a chip.
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1823058, you said that... I didn't.. but have fun w/ that strawman you built Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 02:08 PM
The fact is regardless of the circumstances, you're not winning w/ a QB that's an undisciplined, mistake prone choke artist..
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1823123, You realize the same was said about Terry Bradshaw Posted by OldPro, Mon Oct-03-11 03:39 PM
>The fact is regardless of the circumstances, you're not >winning w/ a QB that's an undisciplined, mistake prone choke >artist..
And Romo has been far better in his first 5 years than Bradshaw was. But see the Steelers were about becoming the best team they could be instead of just expecting a QB to take them to the promise land. They did the same thing with Roethlisberger decades later and it paid big dividends.
The way to approach this is to work on improving your running game and defense so Romo isn't put in some of the positions the team keeps putting him in. No doubt he's done some dumb ass shit during his career but the solution to all of this is to look at this as a team problem and address it as such.
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1823146, I realize Romo isn't Bradshaw & won't win a SB... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Oct-03-11 04:29 PM
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1823163, The problem is the head coach's playcalling Posted by Organ, Mon Oct-03-11 04:43 PM
When Romo and the offense does enough to get a lead/win he needs to change the gameplan and get more conservative
Not saying he needs to play not to lose but this is ridiculous The defense has proven that they can stop teams Garrett is psyching himself out/outcoaching himself
Teams that are losing by a good amount in the 2nd half may as well just play coverage and not even acknowledge the run because they know eventually that Garrett is going to get cute and pass when he shouldn't Just keep disguising coverage because sooner or later, with the lead, Garrett will have Romo chuck it up there on 2nd and 3 with the clock running
>>The fact is regardless of the circumstances, you're not >>winning w/ a QB that's an undisciplined, mistake prone choke >>artist.. > >And Romo has been far better in his first 5 years than >Bradshaw was. But see the Steelers were about becoming the >best team they could be instead of just expecting a QB to take >them to the promise land. They did the same thing with >Roethlisberger decades later and it paid big dividends. > >The way to approach this is to work on improving your running >game and defense so Romo isn't put in some of the positions >the team keeps putting him in. No doubt he's done some dumb >ass shit during his career but the solution to all of this is >to look at this as a team problem and address it as such. > >_________________________________ >Reunion Radio Podcasts >Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance > >http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
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1823458, The 2nd pick yesterday can be put on the inexperience of Robinson... Posted by Pinko_Panther, Tue Oct-04-11 01:23 AM
I mean, it was a standard slant pass and the inexperienced receiver let the CB get in front of him. The pass was where it was supposed to be.
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1823026, Eagles this year remind me of Dallas last year... but slightly better lol Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Oct-03-11 01:37 PM
Explosive offense with bad breaks and a defense everyone thought was good but gives up too many big plays. Same start pretty much
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1823063, it's weird to see the positions flip flopping like this... Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Oct-03-11 02:20 PM
I guarantee, if they go 1-4 I'm suspecting an all-out J-O-B like the Cowboys did last season. I mean after Romo went down it was much the same. bad breaks just turned to bad all around...
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1823220, Who the HELL IS VOTING BLUE!! Now Cypher!! NOW CYPHER!! Posted by M1ZSolitayre77, Mon Oct-03-11 07:11 PM
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1870551, Ok, Garrett can go too... deal? Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 09:18 AM
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1870685, I still say NO Posted by Organ, Mon Dec-12-11 11:35 AM
There is only a hand full of QBs on the planet earth, including Romo, that could be successful with that protection and with Garrett as offensive coordinator
Chances are any other QB you throw in there fails and fails horribly After years of Chad Hutchinson, Q, Testeverde, Ryan Leaf, Anthony Wright, etc I can't
We can't give this guy up He puts the team in position to win the game What more can you ask for
Every team can't have the best QB on the planet A team like Baltimore would murder babies to have Romo as their QB
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1870691, I'd go after a marquee coach. But it's retarded to part with Romo Posted by Lach, Mon Dec-12-11 11:40 AM
He's one of the top 10 QBs in the league imo regardless of some bonehead moments. That's all that needs to be said.
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1870714, The stupid penalties and lack of mental toughness were on Wade Posted by RaFromQueens, Mon Dec-12-11 12:02 PM
now Garrett?
Y'all got a lot of problems that don't rhyme with homo.
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1870694, Yes, please dump one of your best players at an important position. Posted by smutsboy, Mon Dec-12-11 11:42 AM
It's totally his fault the OL and defense and coach suck.
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1870833, That's what I'm screaming....last night was NOT TONY'S FAULT Posted by Dstl1, Mon Dec-12-11 01:15 PM
.
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1870761, if yall dont want him send him to the Titans. I'll GLADLY have Romo. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Dec-12-11 12:24 PM
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1870763, i'm saying there are 12-15 teams that would love him Posted by rob, Mon Dec-12-11 12:26 PM
and another few that might think seriously about it
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1870775, That's not a flattering number lol Posted by RaFromQueens, Mon Dec-12-11 12:33 PM
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1870881, shit i'd go higher than that. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Dec-12-11 01:38 PM
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1871158, If I were a GM of these teams, and I could get Romo I take him... Posted by Lach, Mon Dec-12-11 04:32 PM
I mean the starters on these teams are not better or as good as Romo imo
Redskins Vikings Bucs Jags Cardinals Seahawks Rams Jets Bills Dolphins Browns Broncos Titans Raiders Chiefs Ravens 49ers Eagles Texans
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1871175, yup. Posted by smutsboy, Mon Dec-12-11 04:47 PM
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1871215, if anything this year has been a huge pro-romo year Posted by rob, Mon Dec-12-11 05:11 PM
it's only 4 qbs (including big dumbass ben, though i'm very ambivalent there) i'd swap out for romo in 2011.
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1871233, actually, the number of teams would be a lot lower than that Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 05:35 PM
The following are the only squads I could see actually being in position & perhaps wanting to make a play for Romo this offseason:
Skins Seattle Dolphins Browns Titans Chiefs
The rest of the league either has a better QB, recently drafted a QB they're moving forward with, or just invested a ton of money/trade-value in a QB so won't wanna admit they fucked up yet (i.e. Arizona, Buffalo & possibly Oakland).
Basically, there's not much market for Romo right now, I'm pretty sure he's got a trade-kicker in his deal too.
He ain't going anywhere (both in the roster & postseason sense).
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1871256, we aren't trying to trade for dwight, shit's hypothetical. Posted by rob, Mon Dec-12-11 06:11 PM
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1871260, so? I was just laying out the current landscape Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 06:13 PM
.
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1871267, football reasons Posted by rob, Mon Dec-12-11 06:17 PM
it's a dozen or more
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1871273, I just gave you the list of who would want him for football reasons Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 06:20 PM
feel free to add on if you like.
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1871330, drafting/paying/trading for a shitty qb is $$$ not football Posted by rob, Mon Dec-12-11 07:40 PM
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1871364, salary, time/trade-investment & draft position are all part of football Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:27 PM
I know you're smart enough to get that even if Jerruh doesn't seem to that often.
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1871382, oh i understand that, but thats not what this post is about Posted by rob, Mon Dec-12-11 08:37 PM
and also i was thinking about cp3
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1870896, And all this Dec shit Posted by Organ, Mon Dec-12-11 01:42 PM
you know, maybe it's time to start looking at the team/coaches as a whole
Last time he played in Dec (2009) he had 8 TDs and 1 int This year he has 6 TDs and no INTs in two games in Dec
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1871218, i agree..but i keep thinkin about that throw to miles Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Dec-12-11 05:13 PM
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1871325, if miles isnt babying his hammy that's a catch. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Dec-12-11 07:30 PM
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1871332, I can roll w/ that but Romo could have also made a more direct throw Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 07:44 PM
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1871335, true but he saw the opportunity and went for the money Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Dec-12-11 07:46 PM
that's just Romo. itd be hard for me to be mad at that.
i just yall need to be hanging the defense out to dry this time for blowing a 2 possession lead.
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1871339, I would make this solely about the defense if not for one fact... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 07:50 PM
Eli had to overcome the very same thing from his defense.. Yet, Eli made all the plays to win while Romo missed a game ending play.
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1871356, You know, the D was actually playing pretty well until that last 5 mins. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:21 PM
When they had 22, 10 points were off 1 blown coverage and a Felix fumble. I do expect the D to make 1 stop. Sorry, but THAT is what CHAMPIONSHIP teams do. You got it backwards by putting our lack of champ-drive all on the QB. Backwards.
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1871354, Shit, Michael Irvin said the same thing. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:20 PM
And apparently Miles admitted to "losing the ball in the lights". So, it's retard levels of silly for anyone to point to that play and look to blow up the QB position on this team.
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1871265, and 2 losses Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 06:16 PM
>This year he has 6 TDs and no INTs in two games in Dec > >
Don't try to act like QBs don't get the credit when the team carries them. Shit look at Tebow - lol.
QBs are LEADERS. They fall on the grenade. That's how it is man.. Brady was talking about how he was getting yelled @ by the OC & how he fucked up yesterday even though they won. That team ain't SHIT w/o Tom Brady but that doesn't change the fact that a leader has to take the hits as well as get the love when shit goes right..
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1871166, Cowboys fans who don't appreciate Romo, don't deserve a good team Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 04:40 PM
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1871235, sounds like the same bullshit I used to hear about McNabb Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 05:36 PM
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1871244, So, what's the excuse after McNabb? Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 05:47 PM
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1871248, huh? the excuse as in we traded McNabb for a 2nd & he's Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 05:55 PM
out of the league 15 months later?
That Vick played better last year than McNabb had in the seven years prior while we won the division?
Or the fact that we should have franchised him rather than counted on a guy Iverson's size playing as a running QB long-term?
This team's got a lot of problems, jettisoning Donovan was certainly not one of them.
The bottom line is I spent about the same amount of years copping pleas for McNabb & denying what became increasingly more obvious: he wasn't gonna get it done here or anywhere.
While I still think the Cowboys' main issue is an owner who thinks he's a football guy, your QB is kinda fool's gold anyway.
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1871268, what does that have to do w/ McNabb never getting it done? Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 06:18 PM
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1871367, See: Andy Reid. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:28 PM
McNabb had SB caliber years. Gosh, he might have even gone to one.
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1871376, gosh, he mighta even throw 3 picks & thrown running a 2-min crawl in one Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:34 PM
>McNabb had SB caliber years. Gosh, he might have even gone to >one.
BUT IT WASN'T HIS FAULT!
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1871385, He still got there though. Stay mad. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:39 PM
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1871411, I'm more mad at him literally choking up when he got there.. Posted by mtbatol, Mon Dec-12-11 09:14 PM
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1871189, I hope he plays on the Cowboys forever. Posted by chillinCHiEF, Mon Dec-12-11 04:55 PM
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1871239, co-siggy, I hope he plays in Dallas til he's Jerry Jones' current age Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 05:46 PM
while GM Jerruh watches from a Han Solo Carbonite Delivery Box in his luxury-suite lair above.
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1871309, I also hope so Posted by Organ, Mon Dec-12-11 06:53 PM
Cause the grass isn't greener This team without Romo is probably 2-11 this year
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1871319, Highest QB Rating for a QB over 300 yds that resulted in an L Posted by Organ, Mon Dec-12-11 07:13 PM
In NFL history That was Romo on lastnight
No QB has ever thrown for over 300 yards and had a rating as high as that and lost
That should tell you about this team
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1871327, Romo played great.. I never said different but he had a chance Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 07:35 PM
to win the game in spite of the D letting him down & he didn't get it done. Eli was in the exact same situation. He was up 22-20 & the Giants D shit the bed & gave up 2 long passes on 2 drives that lead to a 34-22 lead for us. Eli made all the plays to bring the Giants back. Romo missed the play to seal the deal.
It's not fair but that's life as a QB especially for a franchise like Dallas.
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1871344, Nah I know Posted by Organ, Mon Dec-12-11 08:01 PM
I'm not going at you or anyone specifically, just stating things I get where you are coming from
Eli did do what he needed to win, but the end result should have been him making a game losing mistake
That pick to Lee and the score after should have sealed the game That should have been it He lost (I know he didn't, but any other team other than pathetic Cowboys he lost)
Romo didn't throw the pick He took advantage of the one damn thing the D did do right and gave a 12 pt cushion
A lot of games that Romo is in and loses I usually find myself saying "It shouldn't have come to that"
It's like a boxer being up like 11 rounds He didn't lose 1 round The crowd knows it, the other guy's corner knows it All of the sudden, he gets knocked out in the 12th under the advice of his corner telling him that he is losing and he needs to go for broke and land a flash knockout I swear, our losses ARE THAT BAD THEY ARE THAT STUPID AND BAD I even know the analogy is the most stupid and far fetched thing ever, but, it REALLY IS THAT STUPID AND BAD
Just look this year 27 - 3 We get the ball punt, stop Det they punt Around the 10 min mark And we pass on 1st and 10 Almost every possession for the rest of the game Garrett made bad calls
Yeah, Romo lost the game, but he won that game earlier It was over Why?
He won that Giants game He won it
It's so ridiculous He got in position to win the Zona game Garrett calls timeout
On the road we could have beat NE I was at that game (which doesn't mean shit just saying I was there and got to witness the ridiculousness) We can put them away Garrett runs 3 straight times
We should be yelling at Garrett man Spread shotguns on 3rd and 1 when the running game avg like 6ypc This is so dumb I can't get mad at Romo this year
>to win the game in spite of the D letting him down & he >didn't get it done. Eli was in the exact same situation. He >was up 22-20 & the Giants D shit the bed & gave up 2 long >passes on 2 drives that lead to a 34-22 lead for us. Eli made >all the plays to bring the Giants back. Romo missed the play >to seal the deal. > > >It's not fair but that's life as a QB especially for a >franchise like Dallas. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ><---- 5.... >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo > >======================================= >Occupy Big Government.. > >Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses >http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B
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1871352, RE: Nah I know Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 08:19 PM
>I'm not going at you or anyone specifically, just stating >things >I get where you are coming from > >Eli did do what he needed to win, but the end result should >have been him making a game losing mistake > >That pick to Lee and the score after should have sealed the >game >That should have been it >He lost (I know he didn't, but any other team other than >pathetic Cowboys he lost)
True but there's 2 ways to look at this. You could say Eli overcame what should have been a game ending INT AND HIS DEFENSE to make a comeback. That further illustrates the point of what it means to be a winning QB. You have to make the plays or it doesn't happen.
>Romo didn't throw the pick >He took advantage of the one damn thing the D did do right and >gave a 12 pt cushion > >A lot of games that Romo is in and loses I usually find myself >saying "It shouldn't have come to that"
He didn't make his usually soul crushing mistake but he also didn't make the necessary play in the clutch...
>It's like a boxer being up like 11 rounds >He didn't lose 1 round >The crowd knows it, the other guy's corner knows it >All of the sudden, he gets knocked out in the 12th under the >advice of his corner telling him that he is losing and he >needs to go for broke and land a flash knockout >I swear, our losses ARE THAT BAD >THEY ARE THAT STUPID AND BAD >I even know the analogy is the most stupid and far fetched >thing ever, but, it REALLY IS THAT STUPID AND BAD
The losses suck... no argument there.
>Just look this year >27 - 3 >We get the ball punt, stop Det they punt >Around the 10 min mark >And we pass on 1st and 10 >Almost every possession for the rest of the game Garrett made >bad calls > >Yeah, Romo lost the game, but he won that game earlier >It was over >Why? > >He won that Giants game >He won it > >It's so ridiculous >He got in position to win the Zona game >Garrett calls timeout > >On the road we could have beat NE >I was at that game (which doesn't mean shit just saying I was >there and got to witness the ridiculousness) >We can put them away Garrett runs 3 straight times
Ditto: Those losses fucking sucked.. lol
>We should be yelling at Garrett man >Spread shotguns on 3rd and 1 when the running game avg like >6ypc >This is so dumb >I can't get mad at Romo this year
Oh Garrett fucked up against Zona.. Personally that the biggest fuck up this season. That's just retarted.. but the losses go like this..
Romo (NYJ,DET,NE 1/2) Garrett (NE 1/2, ARZ) D(Eagles,Giants)
There's plenty of blame to go around but I'm not looking @ Romo from last night or just this season. I'm looking at his entire tenure.
>>to win the game in spite of the D letting him down & he >>didn't get it done. Eli was in the exact same situation. He >>was up 22-20 & the Giants D shit the bed & gave up 2 long >>passes on 2 drives that lead to a 34-22 lead for us. Eli >made >>all the plays to bring the Giants back. Romo missed the play >>to seal the deal. >> >> >>It's not fair but that's life as a QB especially for a >>franchise like Dallas. >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >><---- 5.... >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo >> >>======================================= >>Occupy Big Government.. >> >>Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses >>http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B >
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1871340, Don't bother Organ, it's a fucking pointless argument Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 07:55 PM
Anyone who doesn't understand how hard it is to come by Romo's level of talent at QB lacks some serious brain cells when it comes to football. You don't just ditch the guy who's saved your franchise from a ten year funk and HOPE/PRAY the next Staubach-Brady-Montana will just strut into town and replace him. It's fucking delusional and demonstrates a clear lack of understanding regarding how football and the NFL works.
It's even more disturbing to think we should WASTE a first round draft pick on the QB position when we are (a) seriously bleeding in critical spots on defense and (b) have a cultural and organizational problems on this ENTIRE team that keeps us from taking the next step.
I think it's very important to note that over the last 2 years, the vast majority of games the Cowboys have played have been won or lost by less than a TD. This has very little to do with who is throwing the ball and a ton to do with game planning, time management, defense making plays, and aggression in play calling. Yes, elite QBs win close games (they often lose too) but I'd be hard pressed to find an elite QB that has been put in the situations that Tony had last night nearly as often.
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1871343, ha. that sums up Romo's career in a night. Posted by will_5198, Mon Dec-12-11 08:01 PM
lots of empty numbers and excuses.
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1871349, Romo is the LeBron James of the NFL Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 08:13 PM
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1871379, or the playoff victories or the dominance or the pending chips Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:37 PM
>Without the league MVPs tho... >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ><---- 5.... >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo > >======================================= >Occupy Big Government.. > >Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses >http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B
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1871393, Please, Bron ain't got no chips - lol.....not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 08:51 PM
And it's FAR from a guarantee that he's going to win one at this point...
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1871401, he's already gotten to two 'Super Bowls' & he will get around to winning Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 09:02 PM
I mean, believe me I wanted to think Kobe would never win sans Shaq & 2008's collapse in the final got me a stay of execution but it wasn't like I didn't know it was coming deep down after that the same way you do now.
It'll be okay though, you still got the "Wade's Team" mantra.
But anyway back to Tony, he's still yet to make it out of the divisional round in two less seasons (five years older though).
Lebron's playoff performance would actually be a major upgrade for him.
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1871362, Let's not forget a shitty 33 yard punt by our All-Pro punter. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:25 PM
I mean, if there's every a loss that can be put on everyone BUT Romo, this is it.
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1871370, Ill give u credit-u at least go all the way w/the shameless plea-cops Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:31 PM
>I mean, if there's every a loss that can be put on everyone >BUT Romo, this is it.
But unfortunately for you, reality/replay shows that Romo missed the biggest throw of the game in hilarious fashion so while it's fair to say he doesn't deserve *all* the blame to say he deserves none of it is laughable.
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1871372, I'll give you credit, at least you're a persistent troll Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:33 PM
...who doesn't watch the games But, being a troll, whether or not you watched is irrelevant.
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1871378, it's okay Lil Romeo, someday you'll understand Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:36 PM
.
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1871384, and someday you'll concern yourself with our own teams's shitty problems. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:38 PM
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1871397, oh I adress those too, player, however it's fitting u'd need to divert Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:55 PM
there's certainly no game-won Romo Rebuttal that would work.
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1879301, NOPE. BOMB RIGHT Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 03:34 PM
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1871387, Bomb I really don't understand how Romo is blameless in this.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 08:39 PM
>>I mean, if there's every a loss that can be put on everyone > >>BUT Romo, this is it. > >But unfortunately for you, reality/replay shows that Romo >missed the biggest throw of the game in hilarious fashion so >while it's fair to say he doesn't deserve *all* the blame to >say he deserves none of it is laughable. >
Does he deserve less blame than anyone else? Of Course... Did he ball his ass off for the most part? Yes.
However, IN THE CLUTCH he missed the game clinching throw.. That's not blameless.. that's a pattern. And like I said, why are we acting like Romo had to overcome a shitty defensive performance like the Giants pitched a shutout? WTF do they think Eli was doing? He watched his D get torched on back-to-back possessions by Laurent Robinson & Dez. A 22-20 Giants lead turned into a 34-22 deficit. Yet, Eli overcame it.
And more to the point why are folx acting like this is JUST about the Giants game last night? If Romo played like that all the time no one would be saying shit about him.
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1871389, Dude, Bomb is trolling. Stop feeding the Troll. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:43 PM
lol. keep it in house :P
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1871396, when even your own fans & me can see it but u can't, it might Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 08:53 PM
be time to take a long, hard look.
Maybe we can swap QB problems.
The Cowboys get to look dominating on the nights Vick is on while able to start/finish games, the Eagles O can thrive under Romo's presence except when it matters.
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1871398, Who, other than Legacy, is riding against Romo? You suck at trolling Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:56 PM
In fact, there are like at least 10 people who root for other teams, in here to defend Romo. You either a troll or suck at life.
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1871416, awww, now you're actually getting upset, I'm sorry lemme get u somethin: Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-12-11 09:17 PM
http://chzupnextinsports.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/funny-sports-pictures-tony-romo-pink-towels1.jpg
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1879313, Me Me...i'm kinda on the fence with him overall Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 03:58 PM
hes good with me right now...but uh....for the most part i need some more clutch play...
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1871374, and the blocked FG.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 08:33 PM
and the stupid penalty D. Ware got when they snapped the ball over Eli's head for a huge loss.... lololol
That game wasn't simply about Romo but then again my criticism isn't simply about last night game which Romo was the least at fault. So 2 things:
One take away from last night is that BOTH QBS were let down by their defenses. One guy had a chance to win the game & got it done. One guy had a chance to win the game and missed a routine throw. I don't know how you guys can't see that.
Also, Romo over his CAREER hasn't been clutch & doesn't win games in DEC.. Are there other factors? Of course but the QB is the leader. Now, I'll say this. If for 4-5 years Romo had been playing like he did last night we were still losing we'd be having a much different conversation but we ALL know that's not the case..
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1871380, Thing is, I think you're overblowing that throw to Miles. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:37 PM
>and the stupid penalty D. Ware got when they snapped the ball >over Eli's head for a huge loss.... lololol > >That game wasn't simply about Romo but then again my criticism >isn't simply about last night game which Romo was the least at >fault. So 2 things: > >One take away from last night is that BOTH QBS were let down >by their defenses. One guy had a chance to win the game & got >it done. One guy had a chance to win the game and missed a >routine throw. I don't know how you guys can't see that. >
I think the throw was on enough for a focused Miles Austin to both not lose sight of the ball and put one more step in his stride to catch that ball. I don't think the throw was as off target as you think. Watch it again.
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1871390, Pink, that missed play to Miles IS the difference between Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-12-11 08:44 PM
winning Tthe division & sitting home in JAN. It's the difference between winning a playoff game & losing a playoff game. It's the difference between winning a SB & losing a SB.
(And yes I'm well aware of everything that happened but I'm talking about QB play).
That's the entire point. Winning QBs MAKE THOSE PLAYS. The margin between winning QBs and losing QBs especially when you have Romo's talent is miniscule. It's those one or two key plays that make ALL the difference in the world.
Think about Eli's scramble in the SB vs the Pats which leads to a huge reception & eventually the game winning TD. Think about Neil O'Donnells 2 bad throws vs us in the 1995 SB....That's it. The margin of error is small. You don't have to be perfect but you gotta be better than the other guy & that other guys COULD be Brees, Rodgers, etc.
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1871395, There are a ton of factors that determine a QB's "greatness" Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 08:52 PM
>winning Tthe division & sitting home in JAN. It's the >difference between winning a playoff game & losing a playoff >game. It's the difference between winning a SB & losing a SB. > >(And yes I'm well aware of everything that happened but I'm >talking about QB play). > >That's the entire point. Winning QBs MAKE THOSE PLAYS. The >margin between winning QBs and losing QBs especially when you >have Romo's talent is miniscule. It's those one or two key >plays that make ALL the difference in the world. > >Think about Eli's scramble in the SB vs the Pats which leads >to a huge reception & eventually the game winning TD. Think >about Neil O'Donnells 2 bad throws vs us in the 1995 >SB....That's it. The margin of error is small.
2 things: A) if dude doesn't hold on to the ball on his helmet and drops it like most receivers would, do we talk about Eli as "great" still? I don't think so. He had some luck/help.
B)That same year, in the playoff Tony makes a huge play to Patrick Crayton that would have probably put the game away for us. What happened? Crayton, wide open, drops what would have been an open field run straight to the endzone. As a result, Romo is cast as a "choker" and Eli is discussed as an all-time great.
If Crayton makes that catch, the conversation about these 2 QBs could be exactly the opposite of what we're hearing now. Eli could be the choker, and Romo would be the guy who overcame adversity. Point is, winning QBs are not only great but they often have A LOT of luck and help on their side.
PS. For every better QB you mention, can you at least admit they ALL have had better coaching that Romo? Like, IN EVERY CASE.
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1871437, In case memories need refreshing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h7PddVtISM Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-12-11 10:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h7PddVtISM
Romo played his ass off in this big playoff game. There is also a play that game where Romo delivers an easy game winner to Crayton in the endzone and Crayton just stops short and lets the ball sail.
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1871510, Oh I'm not saying Garrett is blameless.. Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Dec-13-11 04:01 AM
I upped this post with a comment about Garrett not Romo.. And I clearly said of all the losses, the Garrett loss was by far the worst. At least Romo is out there playing & trying to make plays. You can't have an error like Garrett did vs Arizona from the sidelines. You just can't. Then Garrett gives Coughlin the blueprint on how to freeze out kicker.
When I'm talking about Romo I'm talking about what HE can control. He could have won that game yesterday & he missed the one play to seal the deal. He made that play vs San Fran earlier this season. However, as I was saying then it's great but I need to see it in WHEN IT MATTERS MOST.
Season on the line. Division on the line. He didn't make the play.
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1878244, So it all boils down to this... Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Dec-21-11 05:24 PM
Welp, here we are again. Late in the season with our good buddy Tony who has a chance to exercise his demons.. (not exorcise, exercise... don't make we slap you on the rest... )
Now, for the record Romo has been pretty damn good in December this year but we have a 1-2 record to show for it..
72/103 69.9% 869 yds, 9 TDs(1 Rushing), 0 INTs, 1 FumL....
Much like Deion, I've been a very harsh critic of Romo because I understand what type of QB play is required to win a Superbowl. Well, here's Romo's chance to make his mark..
Win vs Philly, Win @NYG, win the division, get to at least the NFC title game... If he does that I'm all in. I wearing a Romo jersey..
Now is the D gonna be perfect? No. Garrett? No. Special Team? No. Sometimes you have to overcome *some* of those things. Hell, Romo doesn't even have to be perfect if he doesn't a Eli vs us a few or so ago.
So let's see what happens..
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1878257, so the games he played real good in don't count Posted by rob, Wed Dec-21-11 06:02 PM
because other people sucked.
ok.
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1878266, shit is comical. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Dec-21-11 06:24 PM
im reading these stats like "how is this his fault again???"
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1878269, I guess some Dallas fans would rather have a guy like Flacco Posted by Lach, Wed Dec-21-11 06:31 PM
than a top 10 QB.
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1878819, Really, it drives me nuts how some of our fans can be so dense. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Thu Dec-22-11 05:31 PM
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2155015, http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/2013/02/12217533-standard.jpg Posted by LegacyNS, Fri Mar-29-13 05:22 PM
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2155017, lol nice Posted by RaFromQueens, Fri Mar-29-13 05:24 PM
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1878328, huh? Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Dec-21-11 10:18 PM
I didn't say it didn't count. He's played well so far this month. I just said we have a 1-2 record to show for it. That's not his fault..
However, let's keep real.. It's not like Romo doesn't have some catching up to do since he was the main reason we lost to NYJ, DET and NE..
My only point was if we win these last 2 games none of it will matter. If we lose people will keep talking about late season flops again.
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1878333, that's not how it works Posted by rob, Wed Dec-21-11 10:41 PM
but keep moving those goal posts back and forth
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1878425, wow.. you're pretty mad but I have no idea why.. lol Posted by LegacyNS, Thu Dec-22-11 08:21 AM
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1878823, what gave you the impression i was mad? Posted by rob, Thu Dec-22-11 05:45 PM
you're wrong about this and its frustrating but i'm not mad.
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1878955, wrong about what? To date Romo hasn't LED this team Posted by LegacyNS, Thu Dec-22-11 09:36 PM
on a deep post season run...
Manning has Brady has Big Ben has Eli has Brees has Rodgers has...
I'm waiting on Romo to do it..
However, my latest post wasn't a knock on Romo at all. I was basically saying he's got a chance to do it but it starts with beating the Eagles and Giants...
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1878956, what's the subject line of this thread? Posted by rob, Thu Dec-22-11 09:38 PM
that's what you're wrong about.
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1879142, well 1st of all it's a QUESTION Posted by LegacyNS, Fri Dec-23-11 07:52 AM
and if he leads us on a deep playoff run then fine. However, we continue to flounder around 8-10 wins & can't get past the divisional round of the playoffs we need to consider other options..
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1878982, I'm arguing that the playoff game vs the Giants (the one you keep ignoring) Posted by Pinko_Panther, Thu Dec-22-11 10:48 PM
Tony LED the team and the team let him down.
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1879143, cool story bro.... Posted by LegacyNS, Fri Dec-23-11 07:57 AM
If you want to argue for Tony's greatness in a game where he was 18/36 w/ 1TD and 1INT have at it. You could make a MUCH better argument that the team let him down vs the Giants this year.
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1879251, Unfortunately, I watched both games. The team let him down. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Fri Dec-23-11 01:15 PM
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1878385, Name 1 elite QB that hasn't needed his D to bail him out at some point... Posted by Pinko_Panther, Thu Dec-22-11 03:04 AM
...Tony has had 2 choke jobs vs NYJ and Det, but let's be real here. He's had zero help from the D and there isn't a superbowl championship caliber QB that would have had a superbowl by now with this defense.
By the way, how has NE his fault? That was Garrett's conservative playcalling at the end that cost us that game. Also, the defense not making one single stop on the final drive. You're really reaching on Tony, man. Stop buying into the soap-opera hype and recognize that this is a team game.
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1878426, that's fine but name one elite QB who hasn't bailed out his team? Posted by LegacyNS, Thu Dec-22-11 08:25 AM
And I'm not talking about in Sept.. I'm talking Dec and Jan. Romo had a chance to do that vs NYG but he missed a key throw. However, thanks to the Giants shitting the bed he's got a 2nd chance..
What I'm talking about is Romo winning a game or two when it matters most. I'm not saying he has to throw for 500 yds & 6 TDs.. It could be as simple as what Eli did to us late in the 4th qtr. Just put together a drive or two to win games against good competition late in the season. At some point, your QB has to do that.
And come on, we both know Garrett's play calling vs NE was because he was questioning Romo who has blown the NYJ & DET game. Garrett had every right to be cautious with Romo at that point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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1878817, Look at the youtube clip I posted that you never responded to directly Posted by Pinko_Panther, Thu Dec-22-11 05:29 PM
In the playoffs, vs the Giants, Romo made plays to bail his team out and was rewarded by Patrick Crayton dropping a potential game winner. Later that same game, Romo found Crayton in the endzone, and Crayton slowed down while the ball was in the air, causing an incomplete pass. So, yes, he has made plays in Dec and Jan. Also, don't forget about the year we beat Philly in the first round. We lost to Minny, but Tony made plays all December and the first 2 weeks of January.
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1878306, if the Cowboys lose Sunday, it won't be due to Romo Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Dec-21-11 09:05 PM
it'll be due to the fact that DeMarcus Ware can't do everything
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1879146, ROMOS FAULT!!!!!! no seriously Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 08:26 AM
Romo has been lights out that past couple of months... but he did contribute HEAVILY to THREE LOSSES...and we wouldnt be in this position had one of those games been a victory....the real problem here is..aside from DeMarcus Ware, this defensive team has NO heart....no killer instinct....none of that shit...i mean if youre up 2 scores and the other team is prolly gonna get the ball 2 more times...you NEED to make one of those possessions a 3 and out...or at the least give up one 1st down and clamp down...these niggas CANT STOP NOBODY WHEN THE CHIPS ARE ON THE LINE..NOBODY!!!...so while its not all Romos fault...he definitely going to get some of the blame if they fail in these last 2 weeks...bcz we really shouldnt be in this position...
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1879148, lol - I mean I clearly said he's been ballin the past few weeks Posted by LegacyNS, Fri Dec-23-11 08:35 AM
but none of that matters to the rest of the crew.. I was just making 2 points..
1> Romo was in a bit of a deficit because he lost a few games early. 2> Even though our D shit the bed vs the Giants, Eli was in the same situation & came thru in spite of it. Romo had a chance to close the game but missed a throw..
Either way, if he leads us to 2 wins & the division title I'll definitely give him props. If he leads us on a deep playoff run I'll shower him with praise.
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1879163, i mean..hes on my good side now..but hes one romavre play away Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 09:21 AM
from being on my bad side...but with that said...theres no one out there available that even comes close to what romo can do....
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1879266, lol @ Romavre Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-23-11 01:50 PM
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1879259, RE: ROMOS FAULT!!!!!! no seriously Posted by Pinko_Panther, Fri Dec-23-11 01:39 PM
>Romo has been lights out that past couple of months... but he >did contribute HEAVILY to THREE LOSSES...
Three now?! What's the third loss that he HEAVILY contributed to?
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1879311, ok..i'm not going to pin the NE loss on him Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 03:55 PM
but what about philly? didnt he have a part in that one?
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1879959, that was a team loss - e'rybody fucked up Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Dec-25-11 01:30 AM
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1879253, dude i NEED Romo to have the game of his life....PLEASE win Posted by southphillyman, Fri Dec-23-11 01:28 PM
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1879254, FOH nigga Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 01:29 PM
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1879263, FOH @ niggas having hope in a 6-8 team. fuck all that. lose these Posted by southphillyman, Fri Dec-23-11 01:45 PM
last two and get fat bastard out of HERE
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1879264, NOPE..yall winning the division...saving Andys job Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 01:46 PM
Congrats beforehand
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1879265, nah, Bomb was right... we're stuck with that asswipe Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-23-11 01:49 PM
>last two and get fat bastard out of HERE
at least while he's still under contract. they fucked up the "get Andy fired" shit when they came back and beat Miami's ass. DALLAS fucked it up when they lost to New York the first time. New York fucked it up when they lost to the fucking Skins.
fuck him though, for the Castillo/Matthews/Smith Experiments. shit, we could have kept McDillweed if it meant these results.
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1879269, yea i think he's here to stay regardless. at least at 6-10 the Posted by southphillyman, Fri Dec-23-11 02:12 PM
Fire Reid shit will be back on full blast i can't believe how ppl have completely flip flopped because of a 2 game "winning streak" u even have ppl saying Juan should be back because the defense had 13 sacks or whatever last 2 games foh
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1879270, NOPE 8-8... and winning the first round of the playoffs too Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Dec-23-11 02:14 PM
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1879315, Juan needs to be demoted Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-23-11 04:06 PM
>u even have ppl saying Juan should be back because the defense >had 13 sacks or whatever last 2 games >foh
I mean, the shit is kind of working but I don't want another "experiment" season... get someone who has coached NFL defense in there.
the Eagles lead the NFL in sacks I believe
dubious honor IMO. the defense has been 80% of the problem this season.
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1879297, MOAR ANDY!!! Posted by LegacyNS, Fri Dec-23-11 03:30 PM
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1879792, LOL! Yeah, getting rid of Romo! That's what this shitty team needs LOL Posted by Pinko_Panther, Sat Dec-24-11 06:32 PM
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1879953, you mean we'd have to give up that 1 playoff win in 5 years? Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Dec-25-11 01:23 AM
How would a franchise w/ 5 SBs ever bounce back? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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2043982, talkin' bout it Posted by bentagain, Tue Oct-02-12 01:12 PM
I still stand by the McNabb analogy
but somehow saying the same thing made Iggle fans racist
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2043995, Legacy still winning this post.... Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-02-12 01:27 PM
FYI
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2043998, Winning what? The delusion that we could have Andrew Luck now? Posted by Pinko_Panther, Tue Oct-02-12 01:32 PM
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2044014, As compared to the delusion that we can win anything significant Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Oct-02-12 02:04 PM
with Tony Romo??
How many times do you need to see the same movie before you realize you know the ending? You're dying here. No one believes you. You need more people.
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2044019, winning ..meaning he called this shit 2 yrs ago...while we was Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Oct-02-12 02:11 PM
still sucking on romos nuts thinking he was gonna be something that he aint...he a decnt qb that has at least 1 or 2 disasters waiting in the wings ery dam year.... i was on the fence when this post was made...and even rode with him into the season...but after the last few weeks..i just canT ..no more...he is what he is.....AND HIM TRYING TO GET CUTE WITH THIS LITTLE DUMB ASS SHUFFLE PASS HAS PISSED ME OFF FOR THE LAST FKNG TIME..
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2044033, cmon LA.. it's clearly someone else's fault when Romo has 5 turnovers Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Oct-02-12 02:32 PM
I mean, it's not like he could have taken a sack when a guy doesn't break off his route. It's not like he could have protected the ball in traffic. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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2044315, miss me with the shovel pass shit..2 TOs off that shit already Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-03-12 08:53 AM
scratch that bullshit
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2044322, If it works, great. if it doesn't not so great.. Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Oct-03-12 09:12 AM
Bottom line, he's gotta be responsible for his decisions, period. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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2044015, With the ___ pick, Jerrah Jones selects Tyler Wilson from Arkansas Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-02-12 02:05 PM
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2044040, I'll go down with a Romo ship Posted by Organ, Tue Oct-02-12 02:38 PM
he gonna have playoff success this year (barring injury) why are people conceding this early in the year when we are 2-2 is beyond me though
this is absolutely the worst time for me to go out on a limb like this with this putrid O-line but I will stand by it
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2044049, If he takes us on a deep playoff run I'll give him his props.. Posted by LegacyNS, Tue Oct-02-12 02:53 PM
However, how long before we call the shit like we see it?
At any rate, I've don't question his ability. He's just too mistake prone to win consistently IMO. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
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2044312, sanchez and tebow for romo? Posted by rjc27, Wed Oct-03-12 08:12 AM
america's team can start tebow and yall can have sanchez there for the Mexican support down in Texas
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2044314, idk...i'm a huge Romo fan. I love what he's done for the cowboys Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-03-12 08:50 AM
:-)
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2044316, ^^^^ Posted by Radio Rahim, Wed Oct-03-12 08:55 AM
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2044319, ^^ Voted Blue ^^ : Category - NFC East Foes - lol Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Oct-03-12 09:03 AM
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2044324, lmao..i didn't even read the poll choices. Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-03-12 09:15 AM
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2044340, which kinda makes my point - lolololol Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Oct-03-12 10:09 AM
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2044354, lol its funny cause its true Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-03-12 10:38 AM
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2044348, I'm a Skins fan.But I'm also a borderline Romo apologist. Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Oct-03-12 10:20 AM
This is because I feel his problems are now so deeply rooted that they cannot be fixed and these problems could have been so easily prevented; mostly, another year with Parcells would have surely made him elite.
Now he's veering off the "flawed but undisputed playmaker" course into the oh-so dangerous "traditional gunslinger" territory, and he's doing it with guys who don't know the playbook (Dez), seem disinterested at times (Miles), are hobbled and past their prime (Witten), or just in over their head altogether (Garrett, most importantly.)
Romo -MINIMUM- should've been what Eli is. In fact, Eli is an example Romo in the best case scenario, that being a mobile but raw QB surrounded by stellar talent that's invested and smart and lead by a coach who knows what the fuck the NFL is all about.
Romo is probably about done. But I still maintain that so few of his shortcomings were/are his fault.
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2058760, oh hai! Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-28-12 03:16 PM
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2058962, **cough** Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Oct-28-12 05:54 PM
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2059013, A Dez Bryant fingertip caused this post to get upped Posted by icecold21, Sun Oct-28-12 07:00 PM
But if I was y'all, I wanted a successor drafted now, sit him for a season or two and go from there.
But I'm guessing whoever gets brought in as the new HC will ultimately make that decision.
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2100676, yeah so Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Dec-30-12 11:30 PM
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2100715, http://i35.tinypic.com/2da0w8j.gif <--all the Romo apologists Posted by spawn2k, Sun Dec-30-12 11:56 PM
http://i35.tinypic.com/2da0w8j.gif
Just go ahead and take the L on this one. Time to move in different direction no matter how scary. 1 playoff win in 6 years and getting passed up by rg3.
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2100883, the silence is deafening... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 10:35 AM
We're a laughing stock. The rest of the NFC East is praying that we don't move on from Romo. Our fans have become a bunch of excuse makers for this choke artist. We'd rather be 8-8 every year than go out there & find a QB that gives us a chance to win SBs.
Enough of that bull$hit. I lived thru the Danny White era and guess what? No one remembers any of that $hit because he didn't win, period.
We've lost to EACH TEAM IN THE NFC EAST at the end of the year w/ a chance to make the playoffs. I mean, we've been literally passed around the division like groupie. Pathetic..
And this year we lost to a ROOKIE QB on one wheel who's on his way to surpassing Romo in the division.
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2100926, I can confirm this. Posted by RaFromQueens, Mon Dec-31-12 11:20 AM
>We're a laughing stock. The rest of the NFC East is praying >that we don't move on from Romo.
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2100934, and i second it. Posted by Awburn, Mon Dec-31-12 11:25 AM
---------- "To face that guy twice a year is going to be a headache…He takes away from your enthusiasm for the game a little bit." Justin Tuck on RG3
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2100960, I third it, I hope they keep him Posted by The Real, Mon Dec-31-12 11:45 AM
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2100972, 4th. Keep Hom...*Ahem* Romo! Posted by Radio Rahim, Mon Dec-31-12 12:01 PM
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2101276, stick in there, chumps Posted by AlBundy, Mon Dec-31-12 10:58 PM
romo 4 lyfe
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2100933, until they fix the rest of the shit that's wrong Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Dec-31-12 11:25 AM
Getting rid of romo does nothing unless you bringing in tom brady..and I'm not sure he could fk with this O line
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2100941, but none of that had anything to do w/ that game ending pick LA.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 11:31 AM
The defense was being held together with stitches. The OL wasn't perfect but they gave Romo time on most dropbacks. He was only sacked 2 times. RBs averaged 5ypc. Garrett was horrific in dealing with the blitz. With all of that being the case, Romo was handed the ball 21-18 with 4 minutes to go. He blew it, period.
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2100942, but none of that had anything to do w/ that game ending pick LA.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 11:31 AM
The defense was being held together with stitches. The OL wasn't perfect but they gave Romo time on most dropbacks. He was only sacked 2 times. RBs averaged 5ypc. Garrett was horrific in dealing with the blitz. With all of that being the case, Romo was handed the ball 21-18 with 4 minutes to go. He blew it, period.
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2100962, I'm amazed at the number of excuses made for Romo Posted by The Real, Mon Dec-31-12 11:50 AM
Even by the organization. They seem to walk on eggshells and don't want to upset him. They are afraid to challenge him by bringing in another QB to push him.
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2100974, weird, isn't it? ah well, i revel in their dysfunction Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Mon Dec-31-12 12:02 PM
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2100976, I've never seen anything like this... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 12:10 PM
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2100977, I've never seen anything like this... Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 12:10 PM
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2101141, he blew it..i agree...but until i see someone better available Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Dec-31-12 04:41 PM
i'm going to have to stick with him...cut roo then what? finish last and get a qb in the 1st round? trade romo for whom?
i'm listening...
fkn garrett still does not know how to consistently call a game offensively...he ran demarco one time on that 1st drive..and then pass pass passss pick.... when he runs demarco consistently..good things happen..period...he didnt do that until the 2nd half...
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2101048, 6 of the 12 playoff teams have QBs w/ 2 yr or less in the league.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 01:51 PM
3 of the teams have rookie QBs..
Yep, let's just keep on rolling w/ good ole Tony 3 pick..
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2101078, dude looked real Jay Cutlerish during the game Posted by southphillyman, Mon Dec-31-12 02:58 PM
constantly bitching at receivers and even coaches on the sidelines all the while throwing picks lol he still won't be as bad as nick foles next season but the cowboys aren't doing shit with him. AND he might get locked up long term, shits hilarious
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2101136, I'm giving him one more year. I'll concede that last night was 100% on him. Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-31-12 04:33 PM
I'm not a hoe-ass sports fan. Yes, Tony blew last night's game. I won't deny that. Was he without Miles Austin AND Dez Bryant, in the 4th quarter? Yep. Should he have thrown that ball to Demarco? Hell no. Did we have a great chance of a game winning drive with Dwayne Harris (who is ballin in his role, btw) as his #1 receiver? I'm not convinced they had much of a shot on that last drive, regardless of the pick. Not making excuses for Tony on this one, I just don't think the offense would have had it anyway.
So, I'm just asking for 1 more year. One more year to see this O-line improve and for Dez to get his finger surgery so that he can start the year as strong as he finished this current one. I think coming in with a fresh D-Ware, Sean Lee, Barry Church, Jay Ratliff (maybe?), and Bruce Carter, this is defense has the potential to be top 5 in the league. 8-8 two years in a row, this team has been very average. But I also think they are on the cusp of being great.
I'm not saying Romo didn't fuck up LAST GAME, that was on him 100%. But, I do think we have a shot at building a 10-6 or better team this off-season with the current QB that we have.
PS. I don't need to have to remind you that this is the same QB that was asked to win 8 games with a deficit going into the 4th. Before you say "all QBs are expected to do that", keep in mind that, in all of NFL history, only a handful of teams have had to come back this many times in one season. The commentators even talked about it last night.
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2101165, He's got one more year on his contract Posted by luvlee2003, Mon Dec-31-12 05:10 PM
but i'm torn on what to do with him.
I keep wanting to liken him to Dirk and the Mavs before the ring. He was a statistically dope "couldn't get over the hump" guy too until they got the right rollplayers and coach around him. But Dirk always did his part at the end of the day. Tony often gets us games that we shouldn't win, but he's 1 and 6 in games that we HAVE to win.
Nate Newton always talks about the playoffs being about playing perfect football. Even if we were able to squeak into the playoffs how on earth would we be able to play perfect, consistent football with Romo and this team?
It's gotta be this combination of him and Garrett that's the issue, right? Thats been his only offensive coach since he's been here. Maybe those two just inherently aren't a good match for each other.
We've got all these emerging pieces (Dez, DeMarco, Lee, Carter, Claiborne) but if it ain't congealing properly that's on the coaches right? I mean, Sean Lee was balling out and we still got stomped by Seattle and Chicago early in the year. We still had the mismanagement that was the Baltimore debacle.
Or is the system inherently flawed because of Jerry? These single digit win seasons are killing me. And the fact that its acceptable for Jerry year after year is also frustrating.
>I'm not a hoe-ass sports fan. Yes, Tony blew last night's >game. >I won't deny that. Was he without Miles Austin AND Dez Bryant, > >in the 4th quarter? Yep. Should he have thrown that ball to >Demarco? Hell no. Did we have a great chance of a game >winning >drive with Dwayne Harris (who is ballin in his role, btw) as >his >#1 receiver? I'm not convinced they had much of a shot on >that >last drive, regardless of the pick. Not making excuses for >Tony >on this one, I just don't think the offense would have had it >anyway. > >So, I'm just asking for 1 more year. One more year to see this > >O-line improve and for Dez to get his finger surgery so that >he >can start the year as strong as he finished this current one. >I >think coming in with a fresh D-Ware, Sean Lee, Barry Church, >Jay >Ratliff (maybe?), and Bruce Carter, this is defense has the >potential to be top 5 in the league. 8-8 two years in a row, >this >team has been very average. But I also think they are on the >cusp of being great. > >I'm not saying Romo didn't fuck up LAST GAME, that was on him >100%. >But, I do think we have a shot at building a 10-6 or better >team >this off-season with the current QB that we have. > >PS. I don't need to have to remind you that this is the same >QB that >was asked to win 8 games with a deficit going into the 4th. >Before >you say "all QBs are expected to do that", keep in mind that, >in all of NFL history, only a handful of teams have had to >come back this many times in one season. The commentators even >talked about it last >night.
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2101170, The offensive coaching staff seems to lack aggression early on... Posted by Pinko_Panther, Mon Dec-31-12 05:18 PM
ie. punting rather than giving Bailey a shot at kicking a 52 yarder before half yesterday.
They tend to call a safe game until they are down and then they force themselves to have to play aggressive to either stay in the game or come back and win. You put any QB in that situation over and over and over again, he's going to force the situation and that causes a lot of mistakes. I'd like to see this team take a more aggressive game plan early in games and just let Demarco run it out with a lead for once.
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2101253, Oh, he's gonna get one more year.. Posted by LegacyNS, Mon Dec-31-12 09:24 PM
I just think it will end up as fruitless as the previous 7. I'm just asking for Jerry to draft a QB now instead of deciding Romo isn't the guy 1 or 2 years from now if it comes to that.
However, the bottom line is this. Do you deep down in your heart *TRUST* Tony Romo in big moments? I just don't. He's 1-6 in win or go home situations.
Like I said before, we're having a hard time making the playoffs less known getting in with a 1st round bye. So Romo would have to play well enough to beat 4 str8 playoff teams (1 or 2 on the road) to win a SB. Even if everything else is fixed (OL, D, coaching, etc) do you trust that Romo can do it w/o fucking it up? I'm not asking you if he has the talent to do it. He does. I'm asking do you trust him not to choke?
I've gave up on that 3 years ago. If he proves me wrong I'll be the 1st to give him props & update my sig..
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2112922, So... in the past 2 years... Posted by LegacyNS, Wed Jan-16-13 03:51 PM
5 teams have found starters..
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position
2012 ----- Luck RG3 Wilson
2011 ----- Netwon Kaepernick
We could have only gone after Luck, RG3 or Cam if we tanked but Wilson & Kaepernick were out there.. The idea that we have NO options but Romo isn't true. In fact SF had a solid QB but decided to draft Kaepernick anyway. Seattle paid big money for Matt Flynn and still drafted Wilson. Would it hurt to *draft* a QB.. just sayin...
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2113081, as much pleasure as i derive from seeing him fail? hell no. Posted by MISTA MONOTONE, Wed Jan-16-13 06:17 PM
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