Mr. Robot | TRAILER: Back To Work - The Final Season Premieres October 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4r1X1wG1FQ

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Game of Thrones taught me that any show can be ruined by the last season.

I remember saying to my friend that it would take serious effort for Game of Thrones to drop the ball right at the end. But drop the ball they did.

Mr. Robot is my favorite show right now. I really really hope they know how to stick the landing.

is that Benioff & Weiss were not nearly as smart or talented as Sam Esmail. So once they extended out beyond the material it was a shit show. That and the reduced episode order was the recipe for that disaster.

I fell off the Mr. Robot train after season 2 largely because it's just too much for me given the times we live in (I don't fuck w/ Black Mirror for the same reason) but I hope they can close out strong and even without a classic final season I don't see it falling off a cliff like Thrones did.

i mean, in the current climate, i can understand your hesitation.
but comparing Mr. Robot to Game Of Thrones makes zero sense.
GoT was a very specific case study on how its particular show runners, whilst exceedingly great at *adapting* George's existing story, really had no fucking clue what to do once they exhausted the source material. even that last line i wrote makes no sense considering the thousands of pages of material they *didn't* use.

but Mr. Robot has been quality, through and through, with no such issues with its show runner, no slow decline & no dissing of the fan base by the creators. i understand some fans are still iffy on season 2, but i felt it stayed true to its own universe and tone. also, there is no 'source' material for Sam Esmail to fuck up, whereas with GoT it was a slow decline from around season 5 onward (some say earlier). it was obvious from GoT's tonal shifts, the reaaally bad dialogue & the nonsensical actions of the characters, that these motherfuckers didn't know what the fuck they were doing in the last few years of that show.

MR on the other hand, has a pretty definitive beginning, middle and end mapped out & it plans on sticking to it (GoT did not). we've had no collective reasons for mistrusting Esmail and his crew as much as we've had ANY reason to doubt Vince Gilligan and the BB/BCS crew. they got near-perfect batting averages, they respect their own mythology and therefore respect the FANS. the only thing that might fuck up Mr. Robot's swan song would be if they went full woke. wokeness is the main virus that's infected most of my favourite IPs in recent years, shoehorning political agenda at the cost of story, narrative and characters. thankfully MR hasn't succumbed to that infection, but if there's *anything* that could ruin this show, it's that shit right there.

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Like I said, it's my favorite show, so I hope you're right.

Mr. Robot | A Showdown Between Elliot & Whiterose | Final Season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOvhcemArvI

and then all of a sudden the chinese were fighting a multinational corporation and they had kidnapped somebody and the guy was raping this other guys wife and shit just made no sense

But in the grand scheme of things it was flawlessly done. Season 3 is not only great but afterwards if you go back to season 2, you'll see how important it was in setting up major plot developments and twists. A lot of season 2 doesn't seem to make sense but later they build to so many "A-ha!" moments.

I thought season 1 was great, season 2 was meh and season 3 was incredible. Then when I rewatched it with my wife, seeing the clever way that season 2 set everything up, it became my favorite show.

It just might not be for you, but I would say give it another chance and push through season 2. It'll be a worthwhile trip.

Has it been that long of a break? Or is it just unmemorable (maybe just to me)?

I mean, I really enjoy the show. I just can't remember a lot of major plot points

i think it just goes to show complex the writing/plot of modern TV can be

i'll definitely need to watch a recap before i start the new season, because i've also forgotten much of what was going down

Mr. Robot According To Leon | Series Recap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJDmJeydt-w

the sound track for this show is amazing to me and he puts all of his stuff out there on spotify (and itunes i believe)

or how can i stream it without cable?

was dope af


jake fucking busey knows how to play a slimey fuck doesnt he

like they were well into the Elliot/Fred piece and im still jaw on the floor from the opening.

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its just tense all the way through with no break

shout out to bobby cannavale

i hate her so much! lol

FREDDIE LOMAX LOLOLOL


thats good shit right there

Them days are over for me.

I'm waiting until the season is done.

Man, though. I tell people that since GoT dropped a deuce, Mr. Robot is my favorite show right now. If they can just stick the landing with this season, it'll probably become my favorite show overall. Yes even over Breaking Bad.

my friend at work is gonna watch the whole thing straight through once its over but he's like the only person at work that would even consider watching a show like that so its killing me that I cant talk to him about it lol

I've been watching 2 episodes at a time and then waiting. Caught up now. I'll rewatch the whole season again after too.

not everything clicked (Dom), but all the Upstate stuff was really good. Shout out to whoever played drunk Santa, that was really fantastic from start to finish. Wellick has been a meandering character for a while but I loved the way he interacted with Elliott, and the way they ended the episode was quite perfect (with a dope use of the Destroyer soundtrack). Still a lot to cover but they have 9 episodes left

I love that they didn’t talk to each other once the whole time after she picked him up the first time. So well done. The chase was great too

When did you first realize there was no dialogue? I realized it when Darlene knocked her purse over to distract the security guard. That was about 15 minutes in.

read a recap that described it as a Rififi tribute and I went ooooooh. Wonder if I would've caught on if I had watched a commercial-free version (probably not)

1st line opening the episode

"It's cool dude, we don't have to talk."

2nd line closing the episode

"It's time we talked."


Great episode.

my only gripe is that vera's timing is too convenient for pushing the plot.

still, the show is a great watch.

Last night ep might be one of the best in the show. It changes everything. Recontextualizes so many interactions

The biggest problem has been with the presence of Vera. I really didn't give a fuck about him and his plans to take over NYC or his his flunkie Young MA. Shoot, when he laid out what he wanted last episode it underlined how fucking stupid and useless his character is. And the main revelations in last nights episode would have been so much more powerful if they didn't keep inter-cutting him yelling shit or just general reaction shots. I get that he's the device to get to these revelations, but Esmail has had a long time to plan this out and I'm disappointed that this is the best that he could come up with.

Another problem is the determination to make the entire season take place in like a 48-hour period, which is seriously stretching things to the point of breaking. Since the season started, he's almost died from a heroin OD and had a pretty brutal chase through Central Park (which only happened hours before this episode) and he's showing no worse for wear.

And I thought in the effort to make Elliot unsympathetic in the episode before this was ham-fisted.

I thought they were really going somewhere after no-dialogue episode, but what transpired since has been a letdown.

but the musical cues were taking me out of the episode a bit. Made things too theatrical, which I get was the premise of the episode, but it wore too thin IMO. Should be interesting to see where things go from here though, that's for certain.

liked the ep overall, that last scene between Vera and Elliott really landed I thought, but the operatic music didn't vibe with the enclosed setting

so glad i randomly caught the pilot 4yrs ago online.
still haven't seen ep8 yet so i'm gonna post then dip, but i personally LOVE Vera and Elliott's interactions. was pretty chuffed they brought him back at the end of s3. seeing em together again is dope, cos their dialogue is usually high-falutin and there's always more than one thing going on when they communicate.

Vera turning out to be the *most* empathetic person to help Elliott deal with the revelations of his father was amazing. despite his actions, and the killing of Shayla, he comes up as being the *only* one to truly get Elliott's pain in that moment. the speech he gives, before he's unceremoniously killed, is phenomenal. i actually thought they were gonna throw another curve at us by having both of em make out lol. it honestly felt like they were getting that close to each other, emotionally and physically.
i'm actually sad to see him go cos Villar played the FOCK outta that character. dude was altogether menacing, friendly, empathetic & threatening. just a jumble of archetypes to the point that u don't know what he's gonna do or say at any given moment.

i do have a *slight* problem with the major revelation, though. it completely shits on the father figure to irredeemable levels. whereas before we got hints here and there that his dad wasn't exactly father of the year, & his mother seemed to cop most of the blame for the shitty child-rearing. but to have his dad be revealed as the *ultimate* toxic white male? in this climate? smacks too much of hollywood agenda. i was hoping this show would skip shit like this completely, but man, soon as we were halfway through the revelation i was like....nooooooo lol.

on the *other* hand, it makes perfect narrative sense. if y'all know anything about schizoid minds and mind control in general, the basic premise is that you can segment and compartmentalise the human brain through some form of trauma, the most potent of which is sexual. Elliott is basically a victim of the same shit that mk ultra victims went through, exhibiting loss of memory, control of their own bodies and minds because a trauma-based alter was created and/or invoked. it's more fucked up in Elliott's case cos the alter that's trying to shield him from the ugly truth is also the perpetrator.

Rami, though. jeesus louises. give him more awards, plz. he already got one for this show but...dang. just for ep7 ALONE. his reactions to the truth. his facial contortions. good god.

bout to smoke a bowl n pop on ep8.

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i kind of like where the development of his trauma is going.

darlene and dom's part was really good with an ending that really surprised me.

overall i feel like its kind of stalling right now. future episodes can change that feeling quickly.

Good send-off for the character.

I doubt that this is the end of the Dark Army stuff. They still have to establish what it is that White Rose's machine actually does.

the one before was good

edit: two more weeks left, 3 episodes.

And quoting "Three Days of the Condor." Also, the literal "pay-off" that came from wrecking the Deus group was good to see.

But I don't care about Darlene and Dom's relationship. Mostly, IDGAF about Dom. Never have. So all the angst about her learning to let go fell flat. Hopefully she's off the board for the rest of the series.

The way she leaves working with Leon open and the whole “I can take care of myself” and “they couldn’t handle me” but seemed like they were setting up a continuation to Darlene’s story.

Anybody else get that vibe?

hopefully it pays off

LOL!!! Two days later I read the finale is coming. LOL! Curious where they take this.

I honestly would not have minded if that was the ending, but I felt like they drug out the alternate Elliott scenes for too long. LOL

Why would White Rose kill herself? So it seems (to me at least) that the machine either moves you to an alternate time line or parallel universe. So at first when she does it, I thought the machine would rewind time and undo her death. But since there are two Elliott's clearly thats not the case. So again I dont get why would she kill herself. Unless she knew that was the only way to keep Elliott from shutting the machine down. Or maybe Im missing something.

just go with it.

i wonder if they will do the reveal/explanation early in the next episode or hold on to it until the end.

given that the reality that Eliot saw at the end was of his own creation and not Whiterose's as was intimated before the twist was explained in the last two episodes.

I'm totally confused , unless he was just totally at wits end and just wanted to end it all because he was sick of this world.

so all this time we have never met the real elliot
we've been hanging out w/ the villain in elliot's life all along
and darlene knew and never said anything. and darlene abandoned elliot after the trauma.

and just the way it was all laid out over the 2 hours.

top 2 and it's not 2.

I mean, they stuck El-P in that episode, Joey and Young MA have roles. So someone on staff (maybe Sam) knows what’s up.

But I waited the entire series for Mr. Roboto to play, so...

Man. I don’t think it was the *best* episode that season (I could be wrong— still letting it all sink in) but it was a hell of an ending.



I don’t know that I’d call him the villain, but I hear you. He was somewhat id-like. Especially in the last season. I kinda like that the show is just about him. He acts as a personified framing device, and it makes sense.
Well fucking done.

the way they combine the grandiosity of what Elliott built in his mind with the slow realization that he was just laying there all this time. The scenes with Krista and Darlene were just about perfect.

Only tiniest nitpick is I would've used another M83 track to end on (In Church?), but I guess Outro works thematically. And bra-fucking-vo for the Jacques Brel - Ne Me Quitte Pas at the start

there were some high points this season, but all in all it reminded me of Matrix Revolutions. It got too far into its own mythology and couldn’t find a good way out. I was even still hopeful after last week’s ep but this one was a complete bore.

The final twist didn't really serve the overall story. I also thought the reveal of his abuse history was a poor choice as well.

Season one and three were great. Some parts of two and four were good also, but this finale was unsatisfying. I'd be curious to know the story behind writing this season. It seems like they didn't have the final season planned beforehand.

I forgave it because the acting performances in that episode wowed me and made it my favorite ep of the season. That said, they had very little time to deal with the fallout from it. Shoulda been a season 2 or 3 storyline.

i just finished and haven't really read up yet but from what I understand...

the protagonist we are seeing is not actually Elliot, but the dominant character/alter ego in Elliot's head (along with Mr Robot, his mom and the kid, all taking on different roles/purposes)?

And we never have actually met Elliot Alderson until he's in the hospital, or even until that last eye opens shot.

but everything we saw (e-corp, whiterose, 5/9) all actually happened. We just don't know "real" elliot's role in it?

is the "normal/happy/bored parallel universe version of Elliot a separate creation of the real Elliot? But he managed to keep him separate from the dominant mastermind Elliot by keeping Darlene out.. this is where I start getting confused. Also previous seasons aren't fresh in my head.

I didn't quite get the whole sexual abuse angle or what purpose it really served

I'm still not sure how i feel about this season but it wasn't boring. lol.

>the protagonist we are seeing is not actually Elliot, but the
>dominant character/alter ego in Elliot's head (along with Mr
>Robot, his mom and the kid, all taking on different
>roles/purposes)?

Yeah, the anarchist "Mastermind" that the real Elliot created to cope with all of his anger.

>And we never have actually met Elliot Alderson until he's in
>the hospital, or even until that last eye opens shot.

That's what I got.

>but everything we saw (e-corp, whiterose, 5/9) all actually
>happened. We just don't know "real" elliot's role in it?

I believe so. Darlene mentions all of it during her conversation with Elliot in the hospital, so I assume that means it all really happened.

>is the "normal/happy/bored parallel universe version of Elliot
>a separate creation of the real Elliot? But he managed to keep
>him separate from the dominant mastermind Elliot by keeping
>Darlene out.. this is where I start getting confused. Also
>previous seasons aren't fresh in my head.

This is where I get foggy too. From what I understood about the "big reveal," the happy/bored parallel universe Elliot is indeed the real Elliot. The parallel universe was either created by the "mastermind" Elliot or all the other personalities to keep the "real" Elliot safe/happy/bored.

What I wasn't clear on is whether it was the "Mastermind" keeping Darlene out of the fantasy or the other personalities. It seemed like they were going for the other personalities didn't want to allow him in to protect the "real" Elliot, but she turned out to be the key to bringing him back.

>I didn't quite get the whole sexual abuse angle or what
>purpose it really served

I guess to explain the fracturing of his personaliy. Since in most real life cases, multiple personality disorder is caused by severe often sexual abuse. He's abused and he creates all these different "personas" to cope with what happened. And I guess to give them a reason to bring Vera back this last season.

>I'm still not sure how i feel about this season but it wasn't
>boring. lol.

I'm... conflicted. The "big reveal" being that the Elliot we've been seeing all this time wasn't "real" kind of a let down. And I really didn't care about Vera or the FBI woman. Certainly not beyond the "twist" with her family.

Two other questions I had:

1. Mr. Robot tells the "mastermind" Elliot that he's been to alternate reality once before at some point when he was detoxing. I don't remember that happening. Anyone else do?

2. What did White Rose's machine actually **do**? Or what was it supposed to do? It certainly didn't create a parallel universe, because that was in Elliot's head? Was it really that she was just crazy and it wouldn't do anything except blow shit up?

>>the protagonist we are seeing is not actually Elliot, but
>the
>>dominant character/alter ego in Elliot's head (along with Mr
>>Robot, his mom and the kid, all taking on different
>>roles/purposes)?

>>is the "normal/happy/bored parallel universe version of
>Elliot
>>a separate creation of the real Elliot? But he managed to
>keep
>>him separate from the dominant mastermind Elliot by keeping
>>Darlene out.. this is where I start getting confused. Also
>>previous seasons aren't fresh in my head.
>
>This is where I get foggy too. From what I understood about
>the "big reveal," the happy/bored parallel universe Elliot is
>indeed the real Elliot. The parallel universe was either
>created by the "mastermind" Elliot or all the other
>personalities to keep the "real" Elliot safe/happy/bored

>What I wasn't clear on is whether it was the "Mastermind"
>keeping Darlene out of the fantasy or the other personalities.
>It seemed like they were going for the other personalities
>didn't want to allow him in to protect the "real" Elliot, but
>she turned out to be the key to bringing him back.

Yeah at first I was thinking happy parallel universe Elliot was real Elliot but it would make no sense seeing that Darlene is real. It sounds like real Elliot or the other personalities kept Darlene out to keep mastermind Elliot from intruding on that universe. I'm not sure it quite works though

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>>I didn't quite get the whole sexual abuse angle or what
>>purpose it really served
>
>I guess to explain the fracturing of his personaliy. Since in
>most real life cases, multiple personality disorder is caused
>by severe often sexual abuse. He's abused and he creates all
>these different "personas" to cope with what happened. And I
>guess to give them a reason to bring Vera back this last
>season.

It just seemed late to drop. And it sucks to call something like that cliche, that's how I took it as a reveal. I didn't mind Vera coming back, and I dug it as a stand alone ep. Even dug the Hitchcockish music queues

>>I'm still not sure how i feel about this season but it
>wasn't
>>boring. lol.
>
>I'm... conflicted. The "big reveal" being that the Elliot
>we've been seeing all this time wasn't "real" kind of a let
>down. And I really didn't care about Vera or the FBI woman.
>Certainly not beyond the "twist" with her family.

I liked Dom's character a lot, even though it felt misplaced at times.
The last ep with Darlene was a bit off, with Joey Bada$$ being the clear best part (I was hoping for his comeback in the Vera ep instead). I liked that they flipped the hallmark airport ending, but seemed like a weird send off for Dom.

>Two other questions I had:
>
>1. Mr. Robot tells the "mastermind" Elliot that he's been to
>alternate reality once before at some point when he was
>detoxing. I don't remember that happening. Anyone else do?

Cant remember either

>2. What did White Rose's machine actually **do**? Or what was
>it supposed to do? It certainly didn't create a parallel
>universe, because that was in Elliot's head? Was it really
>that she was just crazy and it wouldn't do anything except
>blow shit up?

Seemed like she was just batshit and her machine did nothing. I wasnt crazy about Whiterose when she was her true self. Only because I found her overly pouty and petulant. I loved her origin story episode though

>It just seemed late to drop. And it sucks to call something
>like that cliche, that's how I took it as a reveal. I didn't
>mind Vera coming back, and I dug it as a stand alone ep. Even
>dug the Hitchcockish music queues
>
It was a late reveal, but the show had actually been hinting at it all along. Even at the movie theater flashback in season 3 where the father's death has no effect whatsoever on Elliot and he goes to see the movie with Mr. Robot, the dad he needed that wasn't abusive.
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>>1. Mr. Robot tells the "mastermind" Elliot that he's been to
>>alternate reality once before at some point when he was
>>detoxing. I don't remember that happening. Anyone else do?

Yes. It was in season 2. If you recall it was the weird episode that's played like a TV sitcom with a laugh track, where the family is on a road trip and Tyrell is in the trunk of the car.

I mostly checked out cause I knew it wouldn't make any sense. the second she said "There's actually FOUR personalities" I knew there'd be a thousand holes in the story and stopped trying to make sense of it all.

As I said in my other reply, it reminded me way too much of the Matrix... just adding in bullshit exposition to wrap things up.

To be fair, I don't envy the job of a showrunner trying to end a series, and I don't think a bad ending disqualifies a whole show... but damn, this was bad.

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its not like its something Esmail came up w/ to dig himself out of a hole. the absolute clearest they say it though is earlier this season when they're in the tower and the mom/kid say they're waiting on someone else.

Ok admittedly I thought that they got pretty heavy handed with the exposition toward the end. But then again the last few eps were a pretty trippy ride so maybe the larger part of the audience needed clear answers.

I thought the very end with the final "Hello Elliot" was perfect.

I don't have multiple personalities but maybe this shit just spoke to me on a personal level.

The "I see you now" episode was FIRE.

The episode where Whiterose finally dies was FIRE.

This last episode really let Darlene's character shine. The actor playing Darlene really got to flex on an award nomination worthy (IMO) level.

I think it worked. Not flawlessly but really really well. Now that it's done, I bet if you started from the beginning and just watched it all over again it would make much more sense and the last season would seem like the logical culmination of what the show was building up to.

Again it wasn't perfect, but for me it's top tier and it's probably next to Breaking Bad in terms of shows that end on a truly satisfying note.