>Yeah the age thing was weird to me too. By the time Bruce
>Wayne was Batman the Joker would be like 70. Plus the Joker
>that we got was not a psychopathic criminal mastermind in the
>making. I think we just had to accept that the
>writers/director didn't give a single fuck about either the
>comic books or the comic book fans.

i definitely get this criticism, but one reason i like this film so much is how decidedly noncanon it is. it's simply its own thing. i would argue it maintains the anarchic spirit of the character. for what it's worth, this anecdote may shed light on the lack of future worldbuilding: https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a30366935/joker-movie-alternative-ending-revealed/


>I hope it wins 0 Oscars. Phoenix is a shoe-in, but thinking on
>it he is my least favorite Joker, counting Jared Leto.

i think each actor, including mark hamill, brings something unique to the character. it's one role i really don't mind seeing very different takes of.