>As mentioned above, in TFA Leia told Han that Snoke had been
>manipulating Ben Solo since childhood. Then in the Last Jedi
>we found out that the final straw was him waking up to Luke
>about to kill him.
>

Yeah I forgot about that in TFA. I also just figured it would be
more complex than that.

How did you feel about the Luke thing?

>I don't think they need to explain more than that in the
>films, but in the books they do explain even more. In
>Bloodline it goes into more detail about Snoke's manipulation
>- Leia could sense Snoke manipulating her son even while she
>was pregnant with him. So it sounds like it was a long term
>manipulation similar to Palpatine and Anakin Skywalker.

I guess. You know Star Wars better than I do, but didn’t
Annakin eventually turn cuz he thought his wife was
going to die?

I guess I expected something similar here. I mean,
dude was raised by our childhood heroes- I figured
there’d be something more to him going evil than
being tricked, ya know?

Just seems like ‘oh snoke got to him, oh well’ is
kind of a cop out.

And I can see someone saying ‘well, we didn’t get
Vader’s whole story either’

True, but these are sequels, right? Well, that is how
how they are billed- but really, they are reboots.


>
>Also in Bloodline it talks about the galaxy finding out that
>Leia was Vader's daughter - this was something kept secret for
>years, and Ben Solo himself didn't find out until he was in
>his 20s when that info was leaked. He was pissed at his family
>for hiding that info from him.

Interesting. See this would be a lot more original way
to take these new movies than just renaming ‘rebels’
resistance and basically hitting reset.

Kind of hit me that I don’t like these movies because they
are a) retreads/reboots in disguise and b) basically they
just undo everything our childhood heroes accomplished,
ya know? Shit is kind of depressing b. My inner child wept
haha. Little stadiq thought the good guys won!

Just feel like they could have come up with something
more interesting/original than rebels/resistance,
Empire/first order, and more dead/failing Jedi.

People think Rey Skywalker would have been a retread,
but the whole damn thing is a retread.

And this book you mention- that’s a cool idea to
explore that wouldn’t have been a retread- how does
the galaxy react when they find out Vader’s identity?
Instead, it’s the same major beats.

And these days each movie sequel is ‘the stakes get even
bigger’ - so now there’s what, 20 people left? These flick
have made Star Wars feel smaller to me not larger if
that makes sense.

Don’t get me wrong, Rian did some cool things here
but it’s still Empire remixed featuring some scenes
from return of the Jedi- just with new twists.

Oh, I’m also salty there’s been no lando. I thought
for sure he’d show up at the end to help- thought
he’d get leia’s Code or whatever.