>I genuinely love MOS to this day and genuinely enjoyed DOJ
>despite its many glaring flaws. I just don’t see
>“darkness” as a problem in these films. I’m not crazy
>about Zach’s visuals as the vehicle for these but the
>writing has been the major issue with these and if this one
>doesn’t deliver, writing will be the problem here too.

Logan came out pitch black and Deadpool came out even more cartoonish then Marvel and people love em.

Marvel's a big part but the biggest is that when the tone's so dark it makes its flaws more noticeable since it takes itself so seriously.

Fast and the Furious movies have loads of basic filmmaking flaws; pacing, plot holes, acting, character motivation...but they keep those jokes and explosions coming.

Dawn of Justice thought it was making a bigger statement then it actually was (however, Man of Steel got it perfect...imho it's heavily underrated and stands with the best of Marvel)

The handful of trailer jokes seem to go a long way to mitigate that tho.